With all the arguments that are raised here. The question is: If there were no Jews or Christians living in Arabia during the life of Mohamed, would there have still been a quran?
The Christian Bible predates Muhammad and Islam by more than 575 years. The Jewish Torah predates Muhammad and Islam by 1,000 - 3,000 years. Muhammad said for Muslims to read the Bible for "Guidance and Light." For Islam to say they are corrupted, then is to call Muhammad a liar for recommending it.
Good,cause your comments are lies.You know about Islamic police.Saudi Arabia doesnt allow churches or Bibles in the country.Iran often kills anyone that converts to another religion. Hum,please dont comment,the truth is known by everyone that has dealt with your faith.
No, the prophet you speak of is about the time of Revelations called the two witnesses.But look at the book of Rev.A faith comes via the Anti-christ that makes you convert or be beheaded. Sound familar?
He did copy from the Bible and it's God , not god and Muhammed obviously din't know how to write but he MEMORIZED verses and sayings from the Bible ... I'm a Christian and there isn't even ONE mention of Muhammed in the entire Bible
@VJDTropical well My dear Friend You must go to your Original Text and in Original Language Which is Hebrew and I will Quote you in "Songs of Solomon" Ch:5, Verse: 16 in Oldtestment it says "Hiko Mebatakim Ve Kulle MOHAMMADIM ZAIDUDE VA ZAIRAI BAINA JERUSSALEM" and If you ask to the Expert he will tell you wyy Jews USE this IM like here MOHAMMEDIM if they respect to someone then they use this IM they translated it to altogether lovely :) May ALLAH GUIDE U TO RIGHT PATH
Muhammed isnt mentioned in our Bible. You should read it. It could lead you into the truth. If you dare and the Islamic police dont kill you for seeing what is true and false.
I've already found the truth, that's why I'm muslim. I have read new and old testaments.
And mind telling me what an "islamic police" is. Islam orders to learn, learn about anything. Learn, thus you can find the truth. Jew didn't accept that Jesus was a prophet as well, Christians just fall into the same mistake. Don't make comments any more.. I won't repeat any of them; waste of time...
@lowcoststore well My dear Friend You must go to your Original Text and in Original Language Which is Hebrew and I will Quote you in "Songs of Solomon" Ch:5, Verse: 16 in Oldtestment it says "Hiko Mebatakim Ve Kulle MOHAMMADIM ZAIDUDE VA ZAIRAI BAINA JERUSSALEM" and If you ask to the Expert he will tell you wyy Jews USE this IM like here MOHAMMEDIM if they respect to someone then they use this IM they translated it to altogether lovely :) May ALLAH GUIDE U TO RIGHT PATH
Through the history of Islam not one scholar ever reverted from Islam but thousands of priests/preachers/scholars embraced Islam, ask yourself why? To answer your invitation, I will quote Khadijah "Sue" Watson a former Christian Missionary who embraced Islam, she said "why Muslims are the hardest people in the world to convert to Christianity. Why? Because there is nothing to offer them!! (In Islam) There is a relationship with Allah, forgiveness of sins, salvation and promise of Eternal Life."
There is no salvation in Islam save for martyrdom.There is no forgivness of sins unless one dies in the act of killing infiedels.This you know is the true face of Islam.
They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."
(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)
Then those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy,- they will attain salvation:
But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation: no evil shall touch them, nor shall they grieve.
(Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #61)
For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),
The word forgive is mentioned over 150 times in the Quran:
And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, earnestly bring Allah to mind, and ask for forgiveness for their sins,- and who can forgive sins except Allah.- and are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done.
(Aal-e-Imran, Chapter#3 Verse#135)
As for those who fear their Lord unseen, for them is forgiveness and a great Reward.
where did u get this brainwashing from "lowcoststore", the word infidel has been invented by christians and never mentioned in the Quran, it is ur loving God Jesus who allows genocide of whole nations Deut.20:16 "kill anything that breathes". Dont confuse Islam with what ur corrupted scriptures say.
It is funny to me; my Scripture which is supposedly corrupted, was written by educated men. Mohammad was ILLITERATE and COULD NOT WRITE. The Bible does NOT say what you are quoting.
lowcoststore:"..my Scripture which is supposedly corrupted.." supposedly?Authorship of Mark is doubtful, some parts arent reliable (snake&poison test) (NIV Bible p.1488)Authorship&date of Luke,John,Hebrews,2Thessalonians are doubtful(p.1529,1588,1856,1904,1829).Theologians are divided on authorship of Revelation(p.1922)."Catholic Encyclopaedia" concludes all books in the bible "have been in some way altered".Against Gods order in Deut.4:2 telling not to "add or substract" anything.
First of all, that is not true. Just because you say it, does NOT make it so. The Scripture tells us that all Scripture is given via the Holy Spirit. It is inspired. I do not accept the Catholic version of NOTHING. They ARE corrupt.
1)95% of the people in Jesus' time were illiterate 2)Jesus never wrote anything himself 3)Muhammad(sas) was illiterate its an undisputed fact, this is why all his contemporaries never found any answer or argument against the truthfulness of the Miraculous Quran.
Again, numbers based upon who? Jesus's actions were written by eyewitnesses that testified to scribes of these events. Paul the Apostle was one of the most educated men of his time as he himself testifies. Again, you use OUR Scripture to defend YOUR belief.
"The Bible does NOT say what you are quoting." John 17:22:"...that they may be one as we are one." Jesus and his apostles are ONE like Jesus was ONE with God are they all gods?
Your ignorance of Scripture is amazing. There is a oneness with God that is clearly present in the tense and verbage of the Scripture. No need to describe that since you won't understand it. Allah is one of many deities that was chosen by Mohammad because it was his tribal Deity. Allah is NOT God, but a FALSE god.
It is the Quran that says 'Have no pity on Jews or Christians, take off their head at the base of their neck wherever ye find them.' It is not MY Scripture or belief that is trying to drive the Jews into the sea.
Quote from the Quran. I know u will never find this stupidity u just invented, but i cant blame u, its in ur corrupted teachings where God Jesus inspires paul that the end justifies the means:"..whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached.." Philippians 1:15-18
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I do not quote from the Quran except what it says. Only stupid Westerners seek to believe Islam is a gospel of peace. The gospel means "good news". There is NOTHING good about Islam.
It is funny to me how the prophet quotes from the very books of the Torah and the New Testament and yet these books are the 'corrupted books.' When you eat food, do you add SPOILED food to your plate?? NO! Because it RUINS the WHOLE meal!
Muhammad(sas) never quoted from these "books" ur reading today,we dont believe in the NT (ur theologians doubt its authenticity) nor in todays OT(Theologians are either doubtful or deivided on authorship&date of: Genesis,Numbers,Deut.,
What was out of context? To answer your question about Jesus being God, "...I did tell you, but you do not believe...My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. What my Father has given me is greater than all, no none can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
Also, if Jesus was an ordinary man, why did he say "The Father and I are ONE", "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father", "All that belongs to the Father belongs to me". If he was not divine, how could he make those claims? How could he be in heaven with the Father before the earth was created?
This is not an answer to the questions above. How could Jesus have been in heaven with the Father before the earth was created? Also, the verse you quoted John 1:18 says "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known". "One and Only" in this verse is also written as "only begotten" in some manuscripts. So the verse you referred to is talking about Jesus.
Simple explantion to a hard question for the carnal man. Jesus is one with God in Thought,purpose and deed!
The Holy Spirit speaks and directs us to the Work of Christ not to himself. See you must ask God to lead you with his Spirit. You can take Words out of context and lose your soul.
Wrong,you are using mult/transaltions which were Revised. The Word in many cases should be Son. This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.The term servant represents the fact he was submissive to the will of the Father.Thus he served him.
Honestly Pastor, do you really believe what you are talking about? Do you really believe in the doctrine of Trinity? Do you really believe that Jesus PBUH was submissive to himself and prayed and worshiped himself? It does not make sense, read the words of Jesus PBUH and you don't have think very much of the meaning because it is very clear.
No, I believe that Jesus is the only way to Salvation and no man comes to the Father but by him. But to be lead to him he must call us via his Holy Spirit which he sent to us on the day of Pentecost in the Book of Acts.
Acts 4:27 Tells us God has anointed his Holy Child.Which is his Son! These are facts. Im not here to blast you but to lead you to a better understanding of God's Word.
christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
The problem is Allah, is not God. He was Mohummads tribal deity. And I know these things of which you speak. If the Bible is copied for use in the Koran,does it not hold true that the Koran is not complete in itself.
The word Bible is not in the Bible but is in the Quran. Christian Scholars are the one who say that the Bible was corrupted by man. The word Allah is used to reference God in Arabic by Muslims, Jews, and Christians. It is the only word in Arabic that can not be male or female and cannot be plural. The word Bible in Arabic is Injeel it means the good news, bty, that were the word Evangelical came from.
Im sorry you will not look at the truth nor except it. We are both wasting our time. You will not translate the Word Truely. Jesus is the way to life. If you pray he will lead you into all truth. You are looking for terms which you dont truely understand because you have been blinded.
Jesus PBUH said I am the way , John 4:16, does this mean he said I am God? Yes he is the way if you follow his way, do you pray, fast, worship like he did ? Do you do anything like he did ? Do you know any Christian today that prays like Jesus?
John 1:23 He said I am the voice of one crying aloud in the wilderness -the voice of one shouting in the desert- Prepare the way of the Lord (level, straighten out, the path of the Lord), as the prophet Isaiah said
Let me explain. The Torah was given to Moses. Not copied in any part from any other book. The New Testament Borrowed,the Old from the Hebrews and became a part of our Cannon. But the Koran seeks to fulfill a book which is a finished product.
lowcoststore: "You can take Words out of context and lose your soul." and thats exatly what ur doing by putting these words in JEsus' mouth. The word hen (one) doesnt mean physical unity but unity of principle and agreement as it is crystal clear in John 17:22 where Jesus addresses his apostles and tells them they should be HEN (one) with him.Are they also 12 other gods? stick to ur 3 gods its enough i think.
To say that Jesus plaigarized David is an absolute lie. The Saviour was to come from the House of David, so therefore, would he not repeat what David wrote in the Psalms? David also wrote in Psalms about the crucifixion of the Messiah in Psalm 22. How could Jesus plaigarize from a writer who wrote about him??
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior." How is Jesus the savior if God Himself denies this? Do not say Trinity because the word does not exist in the Bible.
Isaiah 46:9 "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,"
Deuteronomy 4:35 "the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him,"
Isaiah 45:5 "and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior there is none beside me,"
No, the word trinity does not exist in the Bible because it is a theological word used to describe all of God. If it were not so, why did Jesus tell his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Why would you baptize in the name of someone other than God? We know that Jesus was in heaven with the Father before the earth was created. How could he be just an ordinary man? You quote from Isaiah, but Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies of Isaiah.
In the Bible, since Adam to Jesus it is very clear all the Prophets told us to worsip one God, including the disciples. The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD established doctrine of Trinity, non of the christian scolars can explain it,I guess because it is man-made, and tell us just have faith, Did Jesus ever claim to be 1/3 of God?
Yes, Jesus did claim to be the Son. "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" John 6"51. "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me..." John 14:11
This is the explanation of the Church. Did he explicitly say he is God or 1/3 of God? NO. You and I can go around and around of what Jesus meant when he said something. The best thing is to take the words as he meant them!
When he said, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me", that meant that he was God. It is one thing to say that God lives in me, but to say "I am in God"? This states that he and the Father are on the same level. What ordinary man can say that? Jesus didn't say "I am God, worship me", because if he were to make a statement like that people wouldn't believe him. If someone told you that today would you believe him? No. He proved his divinity through his actions.
Wrong. God is!One that is lead by the Spirit will be lead into all truth. A carnal man cannot understand the things of God. We are too limited to understand fully the concept of The Father,Son and Holy Ghost.
The only confusion is in your head . God tells us clearly how it all works. But you must accept it with your Spirit for his Spirit is what leads you into all truth. The author of confusion is Satan.
All the prophet PBUT preached the same fundamental message "worship the Lord and our God is one" no prophet (Jesus PBUH is one of them) ever said something different. All were very clear, then after Jesus PBUH departed the confusion started, I am 100% sure that you can not explain the trinity to yourself and you have question about the deity of Jesus PBUH. Listen to Jesus PBUH, Mark 12:29
"the Lord our God, the Lord is one" He did not say 2 or 3.
No I dont. Ive explained to you about the Trinity. It is a clear concept you cant recieve because you are looking to deny it at all cost. You quote from the Koran and then from the Bible. My source is God/and his only Word and Testament.
Read the words of Jesus pbuh with an open mind and do not put words in Jesus pbuh mouth:
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." Luke 23:46
If Jesus and God are one then Jesus pbuh would not need to send his spirit God because it is already God's own spirit, who is also Jesus.
Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one Allah, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.
DOES THIS VERSE DIFFER FROM WHAT JESUS PBUH SAID IN THE BIBLE TO WORSHIP:
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
then say to them'It is because your fathers forsook me' declares the LORD 'and followed other gods and served and worshiped them They forsook me and did not keep my law
and I bowed down and worshiped the LORD. I praised the LORD the God of my master Abraham who had led me on the right road to get the granddaughter of my master's brother for his son
All the prophets taught that God is ONE. Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Jesus PBUH repeated the same thing in Mark 12:29 "answered Jesus, 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one." Jesus PBUH nor his disciples ever claimed that Jesus PBUH is God, on the contrary all of them preached to worship one God. The Church voted on the deity of Jesus PBUH at the Council of Nicaea 325 years after Jesus PBUH, from that time things no longer clear to Christians.
I agree with you "man missed up everything" when he twisted and fabricated the word of God. Where in the Bible Father/Son/Holy Ghost exist together? do not tell me 1 John 5:7, because there is a big footnote on that page that says the verse was inserted and it is not part of the Bible.
Thats what basic Heritics say to prove there point.If this is the case why was it then included and yet we have other total books that are excluded? They exist in 1 mind,1 goal,1 purpose. That is the key. The dont do what they want they follow the Fathers plan and purpose.
See there you go again,The Koran came after Paul,Peter and the New Testament. How can a New Religion that Borrows from two other faiths.Uses the name of a tribal diety add anything to a perfect work of God? It cant. My friend. This has been nice but God is witness between us I and others have tried to help you.
The word Elohim is in the Bible 1st chapter as an example and denotes,plural tense. The reason God told Isreal to worship 1 God is because they lived in a mult/god World. They could not understand the concept of the Trinity.
The word Elohim means ONE GOD, it is a Hebrew word and also Arabic,my native language, you need to search the true meaning of the word and do not assume things. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, however, it is in the Quran. The doctrine of the Trinity took place in the 4th century, with a group of men known as the Theologians. Neither Jesus, Disciples, nor any of the Prophets ever mentioned it once. The Church can not explain it and basically they'll say "just have faith and believe it"
Sorry , your wrong. It is plural. In its usage and tense via the Hebrew from which the Torah was written. Funny that Islam like others comes up and trys to complete a Faith that has been completed by the Work of Christ on the Cross. His work is finished . Revelations tells you about the final Revelation of Christ to the Church. Get off the Trinty and search out Salvation.
Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)
The Arabs/Muslims would never have mentioned Jesus except for the New Testament. Muhommads Uncle was a Christian and spoke to him and thus he took Jesus and made him a lesser prophet of Islam.
Muhammad's uncle is a Christian?? A Muslim is not a Muslim if he makes a slight distinction between the Prophets. That is very clear in the Quran. Regarding Jesus PBUH we love/respect him the same like all the Prophets. I have 5 children, and my love to Jesus PBUH without any question far exceed my love to my 5 children combined. Read what the Quran say about Jesus and Mary PBUT.This is from Encyclopedia Britannica "Muhummed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities."
The point is Before he Muhammad was a Muslim himself,he went to a Backslidden Christian that thought gain could be mad by his nephew creating a new faith.
Islam means to "submit, surrender to God", all the Prophets declared that. Islam is a noun and a verb, all the prophets practiced the verb of Islam, can you tell me if any of them declared he was a Christian or Jewish? So, it is not a new religion, it is the final message from God to correct the corruption that man did to the word of God.
Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.
And when there came to them an apostle from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know!
(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #101)
Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him.
And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Have you heard of the "ROYAL WE" it is used in Arabic often. King Hussein of Jordan when he gave a speech he used to say "We the King of Jordan".
singular Eloah A plural of majesty, the term Elohim—though sometimes used for other deities, such as the Moabite god Chemosh, the Sidonian goddess Astarte, and also for other majestic beings such as angels, kings, judges (the Old Testament shofetim), and the Messiah—is usually employed in the Old Testament for the one and only God of Israel
There you go again. Who said Trinty. The word isnt there but the Concept is from the beginning. In the Begin/God Created the heavens and the earth and (he)said (let us). Elohim/plural. I know what im talking about. Get out of the Koran and read the Word. I guess all my Doc.Where wrong.
They do blaspheme who say: allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
As stated the Koran borrowed alot of items from the Jewish faith and the Christian Faith. Does it not lay to reason that they also took the concept of the Trinity. Besides the Koran doesnt accept Jesus as God but as a prophet that is to announce the return of Mohummad.
Since you are a Pastor and know the word of God, the following verse is applicable to you:
Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
But see I dont accept the Koran as the authority.I dont seek gain,but to lead you to the truth. I seek to show you that Salvation comes via the blood of the finished work of Christ.
Say: "O people of the book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #64)
He did not mean that the passages were directly quoted from the Bible. He meant that a lot of the ideas in Islam were taken from the Bible. For example, the idea of Paradise was taken from the Christian Heaven but it was then given a hedonistic, perverted twist to it. It was originally derived from Christianity.
The study of Islam is interesting because Mohummads life experience. Leads one to beleive he was tormented by demon spirits not by Gods/Holy Spirit. Pastor Daren
Was it a study done by Islam Hate-Monger? If you truthful, quote something from the Quran.
The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
The Koran was written by others via Word of Mouth,centurys after Mohummads death. And it was also altered to justify his life style choices or lust at the time.
Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. (An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #82)
This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds. (Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #37)
With all the arguments that are raised here. The question is: If there were no Jews or Christians living in Arabia during the life of Mohamed, would there have still been a quran?
hobogoblin123 2 months ago
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dangkoen 9 months ago
The Christian Bible predates Muhammad and Islam by more than 575 years. The Jewish Torah predates Muhammad and Islam by 1,000 - 3,000 years. Muhammad said for Muslims to read the Bible for "Guidance and Light." For Islam to say they are corrupted, then is to call Muhammad a liar for recommending it.
celioabatti 1 year ago
Idiots, what makes you so sure that quaran was copied from bible and not the bible was copied from quran?
KinGIraQi 2 years ago
Good,cause your comments are lies.You know about Islamic police.Saudi Arabia doesnt allow churches or Bibles in the country.Iran often kills anyone that converts to another religion. Hum,please dont comment,the truth is known by everyone that has dealt with your faith.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
No, the prophet you speak of is about the time of Revelations called the two witnesses.But look at the book of Rev.A faith comes via the Anti-christ that makes you convert or be beheaded. Sound familar?
lowcoststore 4 years ago
it's funny when christians refuse to beleive in a prophet whose name is mentioned in their holy book.. may god help you my brothers.. peace .
for those who say that Muhammed(sav) copied from Bible, lol , Muhammed (sav) DIDN'T KNOW how to read,write ; until he met Gabriel in the cave..
Chepoll 4 years ago
Muhammed isn't mentioned even ONCE in the entire Bible , see it for yourself my friend ...
VJDTropical 4 years ago
He did copy from the Bible and it's God , not god and Muhammed obviously din't know how to write but he MEMORIZED verses and sayings from the Bible ... I'm a Christian and there isn't even ONE mention of Muhammed in the entire Bible
VJDTropical 4 years ago
does bible mentione a prophet that will come after the death of jesus... I think so... read it again.
Chepoll 4 years ago 4
@VJDTropical well My dear Friend You must go to your Original Text and in Original Language Which is Hebrew and I will Quote you in "Songs of Solomon" Ch:5, Verse: 16 in Oldtestment it says "Hiko Mebatakim Ve Kulle MOHAMMADIM ZAIDUDE VA ZAIRAI BAINA JERUSSALEM" and If you ask to the Expert he will tell you wyy Jews USE this IM like here MOHAMMEDIM if they respect to someone then they use this IM they translated it to altogether lovely :) May ALLAH GUIDE U TO RIGHT PATH
jass1102 1 year ago
Muhammed isnt mentioned in our Bible. You should read it. It could lead you into the truth. If you dare and the Islamic police dont kill you for seeing what is true and false.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
read my last message...
also...
I've already found the truth, that's why I'm muslim. I have read new and old testaments.
And mind telling me what an "islamic police" is. Islam orders to learn, learn about anything. Learn, thus you can find the truth. Jew didn't accept that Jesus was a prophet as well, Christians just fall into the same mistake. Don't make comments any more.. I won't repeat any of them; waste of time...
Chepoll 4 years ago 2
yes it is mentioned saying that another prophet will come
skhancanada01 2 years ago
@lowcoststore well My dear Friend You must go to your Original Text and in Original Language Which is Hebrew and I will Quote you in "Songs of Solomon" Ch:5, Verse: 16 in Oldtestment it says "Hiko Mebatakim Ve Kulle MOHAMMADIM ZAIDUDE VA ZAIRAI BAINA JERUSSALEM" and If you ask to the Expert he will tell you wyy Jews USE this IM like here MOHAMMEDIM if they respect to someone then they use this IM they translated it to altogether lovely :) May ALLAH GUIDE U TO RIGHT PATH
jass1102 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
a stupid video..a stupid argument..
rsukin 4 years ago
All I ask is you allow God to come and speak to your heart and allow him to come into your life and make himself know to you.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Through the history of Islam not one scholar ever reverted from Islam but thousands of priests/preachers/scholars embraced Islam, ask yourself why? To answer your invitation, I will quote Khadijah "Sue" Watson a former Christian Missionary who embraced Islam, she said "why Muslims are the hardest people in the world to convert to Christianity. Why? Because there is nothing to offer them!! (In Islam) There is a relationship with Allah, forgiveness of sins, salvation and promise of Eternal Life."
isamsb 4 years ago
There is no salvation in Islam save for martyrdom.There is no forgivness of sins unless one dies in the act of killing infiedels.This you know is the true face of Islam.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."
(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)
Then those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy,- they will attain salvation:
(Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #102)
isamsb 4 years ago
But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation: no evil shall touch them, nor shall they grieve.
(Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #61)
For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),
(Al-Burooj, Chapter #85, Verse #11)
isamsb 4 years ago
The word forgive is mentioned over 150 times in the Quran:
And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, earnestly bring Allah to mind, and ask for forgiveness for their sins,- and who can forgive sins except Allah.- and are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done.
(Aal-e-Imran, Chapter#3 Verse#135)
As for those who fear their Lord unseen, for them is forgiveness and a great Reward.
(Al-Mulk, Chapter #67, Verse #12)
isamsb 4 years ago
where did u get this brainwashing from "lowcoststore", the word infidel has been invented by christians and never mentioned in the Quran, it is ur loving God Jesus who allows genocide of whole nations Deut.20:16 "kill anything that breathes". Dont confuse Islam with what ur corrupted scriptures say.
cromcruac 4 years ago
It is funny to me; my Scripture which is supposedly corrupted, was written by educated men. Mohammad was ILLITERATE and COULD NOT WRITE. The Bible does NOT say what you are quoting.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
lowcoststore:"..my Scripture which is supposedly corrupted.." supposedly?Authorship of Mark is doubtful, some parts arent reliable (snake&poison test) (NIV Bible p.1488)Authorship&date of Luke,John,Hebrews,2Thessalonians are doubtful(p.1529,1588,1856,1904,1829).Theologians are divided on authorship of Revelation(p.1922)."Catholic Encyclopaedia" concludes all books in the bible "have been in some way altered".Against Gods order in Deut.4:2 telling not to "add or substract" anything.
cromcruac 4 years ago
First of all, that is not true. Just because you say it, does NOT make it so. The Scripture tells us that all Scripture is given via the Holy Spirit. It is inspired. I do not accept the Catholic version of NOTHING. They ARE corrupt.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
1)95% of the people in Jesus' time were illiterate 2)Jesus never wrote anything himself 3)Muhammad(sas) was illiterate its an undisputed fact, this is why all his contemporaries never found any answer or argument against the truthfulness of the Miraculous Quran.
cromcruac 4 years ago
Again, numbers based upon who? Jesus's actions were written by eyewitnesses that testified to scribes of these events. Paul the Apostle was one of the most educated men of his time as he himself testifies. Again, you use OUR Scripture to defend YOUR belief.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
"The Bible does NOT say what you are quoting." John 17:22:"...that they may be one as we are one." Jesus and his apostles are ONE like Jesus was ONE with God are they all gods?
cromcruac 4 years ago
Your ignorance of Scripture is amazing. There is a oneness with God that is clearly present in the tense and verbage of the Scripture. No need to describe that since you won't understand it. Allah is one of many deities that was chosen by Mohammad because it was his tribal Deity. Allah is NOT God, but a FALSE god.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
I agree
VJDTropical 4 years ago
See w w w . islam review . com
VJDTropical 4 years ago
It is the Quran that says 'Have no pity on Jews or Christians, take off their head at the base of their neck wherever ye find them.' It is not MY Scripture or belief that is trying to drive the Jews into the sea.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Quote from the Quran. I know u will never find this stupidity u just invented, but i cant blame u, its in ur corrupted teachings where God Jesus inspires paul that the end justifies the means:"..whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached.." Philippians 1:15-18
cromcruac 4 years ago
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I do not quote from the Quran except what it says. Only stupid Westerners seek to believe Islam is a gospel of peace. The gospel means "good news". There is NOTHING good about Islam.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
True
VJDTropical 4 years ago
It is funny to me how the prophet quotes from the very books of the Torah and the New Testament and yet these books are the 'corrupted books.' When you eat food, do you add SPOILED food to your plate?? NO! Because it RUINS the WHOLE meal!
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Muhammad(sas) never quoted from these "books" ur reading today,we dont believe in the NT (ur theologians doubt its authenticity) nor in todays OT(Theologians are either doubtful or deivided on authorship&date of: Genesis,Numbers,Deut.,
Joshua,Judges,Ruth,1&2Samuel,1&2Kings,1&2 Chronicles,Esther,Job,Psalm,Proverbs,Songs,
Lamentations,(NIV Bible,p.2,183,240,286,322,360,368,
459,569,707,722,773,935,997,1207))
cromcruac 4 years ago
If the Jewish word and the Christian gospels are corrupt, Mohammad has corrupted and defiled the Quran by ADDING them to his book!
lowcoststore 4 years ago
John 10:30
"I and my father are one."
This verse is quoted out of context. The complete passage, starting with John 10:23.
isamsb 4 years ago
What was out of context? To answer your question about Jesus being God, "...I did tell you, but you do not believe...My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. What my Father has given me is greater than all, no none can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
This has been answered again when you translate the Bible use Hebrew for the Old Testament and Greek for the new.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Also, if Jesus was an ordinary man, why did he say "The Father and I are ONE", "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father", "All that belongs to the Father belongs to me". If he was not divine, how could he make those claims? How could he be in heaven with the Father before the earth was created?
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
In John 14:8-9 Philip wanted to see God with his own eyes, but this is impossible since no one can ever do ever do that.
"No man hath seen God at any time," John 1:18
"No man hath seen God at any time," 1 John 4:12
However, this verse will explain it to you further:
"Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God" 3 John 1:11.
isamsb 4 years ago
This is not an answer to the questions above. How could Jesus have been in heaven with the Father before the earth was created? Also, the verse you quoted John 1:18 says "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known". "One and Only" in this verse is also written as "only begotten" in some manuscripts. So the verse you referred to is talking about Jesus.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
he said the to his disciples, "we are one"
isamsb 4 years ago
Simple explantion to a hard question for the carnal man. Jesus is one with God in Thought,purpose and deed!
The Holy Spirit speaks and directs us to the Work of Christ not to himself. See you must ask God to lead you with his Spirit. You can take Words out of context and lose your soul.
Pastor Daren
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Goodevening Pastor, according to the untwisted words in the Bible Jesus PBUH was a servant to God:
Matthew 12:18: "Behold my servant, whom I have chosen."
Acts 3:13(RSV): "The God of Abraham, and of Isaac,.... hath glorified his servant Jesus."
Acts 4:27(RSV): "For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed...."
isamsb 4 years ago
Wrong,you are using mult/transaltions which were Revised. The Word in many cases should be Son. This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.The term servant represents the fact he was submissive to the will of the Father.Thus he served him.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Honestly Pastor, do you really believe what you are talking about? Do you really believe in the doctrine of Trinity? Do you really believe that Jesus PBUH was submissive to himself and prayed and worshiped himself? It does not make sense, read the words of Jesus PBUH and you don't have think very much of the meaning because it is very clear.
isamsb 4 years ago
No, I believe that Jesus is the only way to Salvation and no man comes to the Father but by him. But to be lead to him he must call us via his Holy Spirit which he sent to us on the day of Pentecost in the Book of Acts.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Acts 3:13 Says God hath Glorified his Son.Matthews intent was to show us Jesus Example that we are to be servants.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Acts 4:27 Tells us God has anointed his Holy Child.Which is his Son! These are facts. Im not here to blast you but to lead you to a better understanding of God's Word.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
It is consistent with the Quran:
christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)
isamsb 4 years ago
The problem is Allah, is not God. He was Mohummads tribal deity. And I know these things of which you speak. If the Bible is copied for use in the Koran,does it not hold true that the Koran is not complete in itself.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
The word Bible is not in the Bible but is in the Quran. Christian Scholars are the one who say that the Bible was corrupted by man. The word Allah is used to reference God in Arabic by Muslims, Jews, and Christians. It is the only word in Arabic that can not be male or female and cannot be plural. The word Bible in Arabic is Injeel it means the good news, bty, that were the word Evangelical came from.
isamsb 4 years ago
Im sorry you will not look at the truth nor except it. We are both wasting our time. You will not translate the Word Truely. Jesus is the way to life. If you pray he will lead you into all truth. You are looking for terms which you dont truely understand because you have been blinded.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Jesus PBUH said I am the way , John 4:16, does this mean he said I am God? Yes he is the way if you follow his way, do you pray, fast, worship like he did ? Do you do anything like he did ? Do you know any Christian today that prays like Jesus?
isamsb 4 years ago
John 1:23 He said I am the voice of one crying aloud in the wilderness -the voice of one shouting in the desert- Prepare the way of the Lord (level, straighten out, the path of the Lord), as the prophet Isaiah said
isamsb 4 years ago
Let me explain. The Torah was given to Moses. Not copied in any part from any other book. The New Testament Borrowed,the Old from the Hebrews and became a part of our Cannon. But the Koran seeks to fulfill a book which is a finished product.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
lowcoststore: "You can take Words out of context and lose your soul." and thats exatly what ur doing by putting these words in JEsus' mouth. The word hen (one) doesnt mean physical unity but unity of principle and agreement as it is crystal clear in John 17:22 where Jesus addresses his apostles and tells them they should be HEN (one) with him.Are they also 12 other gods? stick to ur 3 gods its enough i think.
cromcruac 4 years ago
good.
FahadKhan1988 4 years ago
excellent
pantatbusuk 4 years ago
To say that Jesus plaigarized David is an absolute lie. The Saviour was to come from the House of David, so therefore, would he not repeat what David wrote in the Psalms? David also wrote in Psalms about the crucifixion of the Messiah in Psalm 22. How could Jesus plaigarize from a writer who wrote about him??
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior." How is Jesus the savior if God Himself denies this? Do not say Trinity because the word does not exist in the Bible.
Isaiah 46:9 "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,"
Deuteronomy 4:35 "the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him,"
Isaiah 45:5 "and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior there is none beside me,"
isamsb 4 years ago
No, the word trinity does not exist in the Bible because it is a theological word used to describe all of God. If it were not so, why did Jesus tell his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Why would you baptize in the name of someone other than God? We know that Jesus was in heaven with the Father before the earth was created. How could he be just an ordinary man? You quote from Isaiah, but Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies of Isaiah.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
In the Bible, since Adam to Jesus it is very clear all the Prophets told us to worsip one God, including the disciples. The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD established doctrine of Trinity, non of the christian scolars can explain it,I guess because it is man-made, and tell us just have faith, Did Jesus ever claim to be 1/3 of God?
isamsb 4 years ago
Yes, Jesus did claim to be the Son. "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" John 6"51. "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me..." John 14:11
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
This is the explanation of the Church. Did he explicitly say he is God or 1/3 of God? NO. You and I can go around and around of what Jesus meant when he said something. The best thing is to take the words as he meant them!
isamsb 4 years ago
When he said, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me", that meant that he was God. It is one thing to say that God lives in me, but to say "I am in God"? This states that he and the Father are on the same level. What ordinary man can say that? Jesus didn't say "I am God, worship me", because if he were to make a statement like that people wouldn't believe him. If someone told you that today would you believe him? No. He proved his divinity through his actions.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
Wrong. God is!One that is lead by the Spirit will be lead into all truth. A carnal man cannot understand the things of God. We are too limited to understand fully the concept of The Father,Son and Holy Ghost.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
According to the Bible, the teachings of God are clear to man:
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
isamsb 4 years ago
The only confusion is in your head . God tells us clearly how it all works. But you must accept it with your Spirit for his Spirit is what leads you into all truth. The author of confusion is Satan.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
All the prophet PBUT preached the same fundamental message "worship the Lord and our God is one" no prophet (Jesus PBUH is one of them) ever said something different. All were very clear, then after Jesus PBUH departed the confusion started, I am 100% sure that you can not explain the trinity to yourself and you have question about the deity of Jesus PBUH. Listen to Jesus PBUH, Mark 12:29
"the Lord our God, the Lord is one" He did not say 2 or 3.
isamsb 4 years ago
No I dont. Ive explained to you about the Trinity. It is a clear concept you cant recieve because you are looking to deny it at all cost. You quote from the Koran and then from the Bible. My source is God/and his only Word and Testament.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Read the words of Jesus pbuh with an open mind and do not put words in Jesus pbuh mouth:
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." Luke 23:46
If Jesus and God are one then Jesus pbuh would not need to send his spirit God because it is already God's own spirit, who is also Jesus.
".. my Father is greater than I" John 14:28
Obviously if God is greater than Jesus pbuh then they can not be equal
isamsb 4 years ago
Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one Allah, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.
(Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #73)
isamsb 4 years ago
DOES THIS VERSE DIFFER FROM WHAT JESUS PBUH SAID IN THE BIBLE TO WORSHIP:
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
(Al-Maeda Chapter #5 Verse #116)
isamsb 4 years ago
Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him "Away from me Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only
Jeremiah 16:11
then say to them'It is because your fathers forsook me' declares the LORD 'and followed other gods and served and worshiped them They forsook me and did not keep my law
Genesis24:48
and I bowed down and worshiped the LORD. I praised the LORD the God of my master Abraham who had led me on the right road to get the granddaughter of my master's brother for his son
isamsb 4 years ago
Man mess up everything when he is not spirit lead.God is one but he has a multi/facuted spirit. The Father/Son/Holy Ghost.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
All the prophets taught that God is ONE. Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Jesus PBUH repeated the same thing in Mark 12:29 "answered Jesus, 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one." Jesus PBUH nor his disciples ever claimed that Jesus PBUH is God, on the contrary all of them preached to worship one God. The Church voted on the deity of Jesus PBUH at the Council of Nicaea 325 years after Jesus PBUH, from that time things no longer clear to Christians.
isamsb 4 years ago
I agree with you "man missed up everything" when he twisted and fabricated the word of God. Where in the Bible Father/Son/Holy Ghost exist together? do not tell me 1 John 5:7, because there is a big footnote on that page that says the verse was inserted and it is not part of the Bible.
isamsb 4 years ago
Thats what basic Heritics say to prove there point.If this is the case why was it then included and yet we have other total books that are excluded? They exist in 1 mind,1 goal,1 purpose. That is the key. The dont do what they want they follow the Fathers plan and purpose.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
See there you go again,The Koran came after Paul,Peter and the New Testament. How can a New Religion that Borrows from two other faiths.Uses the name of a tribal diety add anything to a perfect work of God? It cant. My friend. This has been nice but God is witness between us I and others have tried to help you.
Love in Christ
Pastor Daren
lowcoststore 4 years ago
The word Elohim is in the Bible 1st chapter as an example and denotes,plural tense. The reason God told Isreal to worship 1 God is because they lived in a mult/god World. They could not understand the concept of the Trinity.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
The word Elohim means ONE GOD, it is a Hebrew word and also Arabic,my native language, you need to search the true meaning of the word and do not assume things. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, however, it is in the Quran. The doctrine of the Trinity took place in the 4th century, with a group of men known as the Theologians. Neither Jesus, Disciples, nor any of the Prophets ever mentioned it once. The Church can not explain it and basically they'll say "just have faith and believe it"
isamsb 4 years ago
Sorry , your wrong. It is plural. In its usage and tense via the Hebrew from which the Torah was written. Funny that Islam like others comes up and trys to complete a Faith that has been completed by the Work of Christ on the Cross. His work is finished . Revelations tells you about the final Revelation of Christ to the Church. Get off the Trinty and search out Salvation.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
This is what Muslim believe:
Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)
isamsb 4 years ago
The Arabs/Muslims would never have mentioned Jesus except for the New Testament. Muhommads Uncle was a Christian and spoke to him and thus he took Jesus and made him a lesser prophet of Islam.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Muhammad's uncle is a Christian?? A Muslim is not a Muslim if he makes a slight distinction between the Prophets. That is very clear in the Quran. Regarding Jesus PBUH we love/respect him the same like all the Prophets. I have 5 children, and my love to Jesus PBUH without any question far exceed my love to my 5 children combined. Read what the Quran say about Jesus and Mary PBUT.This is from Encyclopedia Britannica "Muhummed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities."
isamsb 4 years ago
The point is Before he Muhammad was a Muslim himself,he went to a Backslidden Christian that thought gain could be mad by his nephew creating a new faith.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Islam means to "submit, surrender to God", all the Prophets declared that. Islam is a noun and a verb, all the prophets practiced the verb of Islam, can you tell me if any of them declared he was a Christian or Jewish? So, it is not a new religion, it is the final message from God to correct the corruption that man did to the word of God.
Job 22:21
"Submit to God and be at peace with him; in this way prosperity will come to you.
isamsb 4 years ago
Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.
(Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #84)
isamsb 4 years ago
And when there came to them an apostle from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know!
(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #101)
Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him.
(Chapter #3, Verse #144)
isamsb 4 years ago
Listen to Jesus PBUH:
And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
(Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
isamsb 4 years ago
Have you heard of the "ROYAL WE" it is used in Arabic often. King Hussein of Jordan when he gave a speech he used to say "We the King of Jordan".
singular Eloah A plural of majesty, the term Elohim—though sometimes used for other deities, such as the Moabite god Chemosh, the Sidonian goddess Astarte, and also for other majestic beings such as angels, kings, judges (the Old Testament shofetim), and the Messiah—is usually employed in the Old Testament for the one and only God of Israel
isamsb 4 years ago
There you go again. Who said Trinty. The word isnt there but the Concept is from the beginning. In the Begin/God Created the heavens and the earth and (he)said (let us). Elohim/plural. I know what im talking about. Get out of the Koran and read the Word. I guess all my Doc.Where wrong.
Pastor Daren
lowcoststore 4 years ago
The word Trinty is in the Quran:
They do blaspheme who say: allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #73)
isamsb 4 years ago
As stated the Koran borrowed alot of items from the Jewish faith and the Christian Faith. Does it not lay to reason that they also took the concept of the Trinity. Besides the Koran doesnt accept Jesus as God but as a prophet that is to announce the return of Mohummad.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Since you are a Pastor and know the word of God, the following verse is applicable to you:
Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #79)
isamsb 4 years ago
But see I dont accept the Koran as the authority.I dont seek gain,but to lead you to the truth. I seek to show you that Salvation comes via the blood of the finished work of Christ.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Say: "O people of the book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #64)
isamsb 4 years ago
He did not mean that the passages were directly quoted from the Bible. He meant that a lot of the ideas in Islam were taken from the Bible. For example, the idea of Paradise was taken from the Christian Heaven but it was then given a hedonistic, perverted twist to it. It was originally derived from Christianity.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
The study of Islam is interesting because Mohummads life experience. Leads one to beleive he was tormented by demon spirits not by Gods/Holy Spirit. Pastor Daren
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Yes, there is evidence to suggest demonic posession. He seemed to be a very paranoid man...
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
Was it a study done by Islam Hate-Monger? If you truthful, quote something from the Quran.
The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #285)
isamsb 4 years ago
The Koran was written by others via Word of Mouth,centurys after Mohummads death. And it was also altered to justify his life style choices or lust at the time.
lowcoststore 4 years ago
Read about the Quran in the Encyclopedia:
Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. (An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #82)
This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds. (Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #37)
isamsb 4 years ago