hiphop is an american thing, but the griots of west africa do what exactly? they rhyme and tell tales over a rhythm similar to hiphop ones, some even becoming more abstract than hiphop ones. the tradition was carried across, lost then found again. you shouldnt talk of influence, in west africa. sure u got "hiphop" and "kwaito" in south. but the roots lie there
You are correct. But these "roots" influenced the creation of something new, like rap,jazz (like samba, there's a melodic background that is NOT african, but the result of the contact of the blacks in Brasil and US with the european culture)
I'm complaing about the american carachteristic of not calling american things, that were created in american, doesn't matter the influence, just american like Brasil does. If it was created in america, it's american, period.
true. its like the west indies n africa. but politics corrupt everywhere g. americans go thru struggles too, but are the best off in the sense of achievement. but they dont necessarilly always do it 4 fun.
Due to the fact that most people(depends on the region)are "pardos", and pretty much everybody lost track of the origin of ancestors, it's impossible for people to keep asking what you are, like in the US. It become part of inconscient of the people. It's easyer not to worry about.
Anyway, Brasil is a 190 million people country, wit the most complex cultures in the world. Unless you spend some years here, you'll never understand. The brasilianists take 20, 30 years in Brasil just to write a single book about social relations in Brasil. Don't try to simplify things. It' will lead you into assuming wrong things.
most of the violence was black on black. i hope u not white or another race boastin about dat. btw, samba came from african angola, it existed long b4 slavery. so did tango, rhumba, mambo, salsa, an all dem names u think of. bossa nova...d whole of dem latin dances. were african. rock n roll too
you REAlY don't have a clue on what you're talking about. Tango has african roots? THERE'S NO BLACKS IN ARGENTINA, you ignorant! None of the music you mentioned exists in África, and so Umbanda,Capoeira.This is black,african pride nonsense. What happened in South America is that african elements COMBINED with european elements formed the culture of South America.And that kind of stuff you will only find here.NOT in África.
I know americans don't study world geography at school, and that's one of the reasons they are hated around the world. They know nothing about the world and act like they do know everything. Try to get some information before posting shit on the internet. Wikipedia will be enough for you, since you're the kinda guy that's starting from zero in this information thing. Do you know books? They're much more easy to operate devices than a computer. Try to read one for a change...
What?!?! Man, you REALLY need some study. Go to africa and look for samba, or capoeira or umbanda. You'll find nothing. Thousands of brasilian antropologists and sociologists did that. Try to read "Casa Grande & Senzala", from Gilberto Freire, it's a good start.
tango, check up the dictionary or wherever n check it. dont need to be blacks in argentina for dat shit. look at sweden. hardly any blacks but dey got a big reggae scene. salsa came from jazz n other beats in the carribean brought fresh frm the slaves from africa.
bossa nova was jazz n other styles. capoeira was done by blacks as a self defense mode and untill 1915 if a black was caught doin it dey wud b killed. wtf u kno? yea south america combined some shit, but dey STOLE it. dey hated to manufacturors but not the product?
Understand this. All the information I posted here is undisputed. in academic circles, Brasilian AND North American and European (Brasilianists). There's no discussion anymore. And by the way:
Samba = African tribal rithms + Polca. Stop listening too much rap (and writing like an idiot) and try to study some music.
The reggae stuf in sweden that you mentioned, it's a contemporary thing. People have track of that. It's a globalization thing. No problem. But about the formation of the culture in Brasil was more than 300 years ago. Of course they will loose track of it. But if you think that you know more than people that REALLY studied these subjects, it's your problem. Live in ignorance.
Theres' not one single pure african or european thing in Brasil. Its all a result of the mix. And if you can't conceive that because you live in US, that keeps everything separated and label everything, I can't do nothing for you.
Americans can't integrate diferent cultures. they keep saying: This is italian american, african american, german american. In brasil, the cultures got naturally mixed, and we call thing just brasilian. but when people study these matters, they find only influences.
Hip-Hop it's an american thing, created by blacks of the US, INSIDE the american culture. You won't find hip-hop anywhere in africa, only elements that influenced hip-hop. THIS is what happened to the brasilian culture. And understand one last thing: This kind of stuff is known only by social scientists and the ones that are curious about. Average brasilians don't care about te origins of culture. They just live it.
i went to a brazilian restaurant recently. white owned. and they had two black women on the board with juggs on their heads. i was confused as to the message they were trying to convey. that is african tradition in Brazil and NOT european tradition in brazil. and my grandma told me about the racism in brazil and ive seen how blacks are STILL treated. dont give me this unity crap.
im not talking about purity. im talking about ORIGIN. i could not care less about the mixes these dances underwent. but capoeira was devellopped by African slaves in Brazil, truelly. I never said it came from Africa, but from AfriCANS-who at the time spoke their own languages and had their own cultures. dont get me wrong
MAN GO TO VENEZUELA OR PERU OR BRAZIL U WILL SEE SOMETHING THAT AIN"T SHT IN FRONT TO BRazil o and GO to NEW YORk city BRONX OR HRALEM OR BROOKLYN SO THEY CAN GIVE UR MONKEY ASS A TASTE OF GHETTO--NESS K i'm outs 1
but cut all this, im born here, im born here shit..yalls on the net arguin with each other...this tells me that u eitha HAVE a stable job, or that its usm1 else payin ya bills...in any case, yall have it EASY..1'
if ur blessed like i am to travel the world and hang with the niggas ive hung with, and see what they do, and have to do just to "survive"...then ull go back to ur neighborhood not fearin NO1.
look. America is BLESSED everywhere except places like the 5th Ward, Compton, etc...these asre places FORGOTTEN and NEGLECTED by the gov't..but seing as these places dont represent a FRACTION of the US...nobody gives a fuck. Thats how there cud be these things untill the era of gangsta rap where it was brought to the fore-front. rap is a big reason why the crime rate has gone DOWN since the 80's. but people livin in places like Queens, NY, Brooklyn, Harlem, Jersey, etc...
why you guys tryna compare ur gangstaness..? its pathetic...but true, that port-au-prince Haiti is sick, so is Rio, Rocinha and a cidade de deus, are two notorious favellas, theres others but these two are the most reputed..Sao Paulo is also serious.
lol, why'd u delete ur comment? I know u wherent brought up in afghanistan u dumb fuck, coz if u were then u wouldnt even be acting like that. U wouldnt be that proud to tell us how much ur country's fucked up. Think before u talk...and I've never said Aghanistan wasnt in a bad situation, recheck my comment. Everybody's seen a piece of action so dont even try talking bout that bullshlt. Trust me, ur the worst liar I've seen.
man, stfu, mid east, africa, and afghasnistan are losses for real but u talk like u've been to those places....I've been to brazil and it's worse than that movie. You piss me off, stop acting like you know a lot of shit bitch...I was born in philippines and usa is still blessed compared to that...punja, pls stop acting like u know a lot of shit until u do.
city of god is real another place crazy as hell sun city in port-au-prince haiti they called the us army to go outhere and try to have peace outhere they had a bloody ass shit outthere niggas still there as we speaks
Thanks for the usefull, clarifying comment.
mfarret 4 years ago
hiphop is an american thing, but the griots of west africa do what exactly? they rhyme and tell tales over a rhythm similar to hiphop ones, some even becoming more abstract than hiphop ones. the tradition was carried across, lost then found again. you shouldnt talk of influence, in west africa. sure u got "hiphop" and "kwaito" in south. but the roots lie there
ras189 4 years ago
You are correct. But these "roots" influenced the creation of something new, like rap,jazz (like samba, there's a melodic background that is NOT african, but the result of the contact of the blacks in Brasil and US with the european culture)
mfarret 4 years ago
I'm complaing about the american carachteristic of not calling american things, that were created in american, doesn't matter the influence, just american like Brasil does. If it was created in america, it's american, period.
mfarret 4 years ago
best movie ever
iusemybrain 5 years ago
i saw a documentary that sad more kids die in rio de janeiro den in iraq
XF1n3stX 5 years ago
Sim.... o Rio é violento por conta da desigualdade social e da política corrupta...
e vcs americanos, matam inocentes por luxúria e vaidade..
malditos!!!
edsonwilliam 5 years ago
shut the fuck up...
comfortablenumb 5 years ago
Why he has to shut up if he is saying the truth? THAT'S another reason why americans are hated around the world...
mfarret 4 years ago
Americans are hated by left-wing losers.
comfortablenumb 4 years ago
No. They are hated because they don't have a clue about the world and act like they do had.
mfarret 4 years ago
true. its like the west indies n africa. but politics corrupt everywhere g. americans go thru struggles too, but are the best off in the sense of achievement. but they dont necessarilly always do it 4 fun.
ras189 4 years ago
perfect
eyeseafilms 5 years ago
A good movie
Bandyda 5 years ago
hahah q doido
diogocaparelli 5 years ago
decadence avec elegance!!
pretty good movie, pretty bad reality!
imtv 5 years ago
brazil owns!!!
xilofompilo 5 years ago
favelas are worst man..but the murder rate aint nothin to be proud..i love the women in brazil doe...
erkinho 5 years ago
BRAZIL NUMBER 1 IN HOMICIDE IN THE WORLD
DIE MORE PEOPLE HERE THEN IN WAR
SORRY ABUT MY ENGLISH HUHAUHAUHUAHUHA
TODAY IS WORST THAN 60'S AND 70'S LIKE THIS MOVIE!!
adrbrazil 5 years ago
like i said above. u black?
ras189 4 years ago
In Brasil nobody will give a dam if you're black, white, green or blue. You just got to be tough. And rich.
mfarret 4 years ago
Brasilians don't have the racial obcessions that americans do. the last think they'll ask you when meeting you is what is your racial background.
mfarret 4 years ago
truelly? when i see it, ill believe it.
ras189 4 years ago
Due to the fact that most people(depends on the region)are "pardos", and pretty much everybody lost track of the origin of ancestors, it's impossible for people to keep asking what you are, like in the US. It become part of inconscient of the people. It's easyer not to worry about.
mfarret 4 years ago
Anyway, Brasil is a 190 million people country, wit the most complex cultures in the world. Unless you spend some years here, you'll never understand. The brasilianists take 20, 30 years in Brasil just to write a single book about social relations in Brasil. Don't try to simplify things. It' will lead you into assuming wrong things.
mfarret 4 years ago
Rio de Janeiro cidade desespero haheahea you guys must come here and take a visit to our beautiful city :)
VascaoRJ 5 years ago
most of the violence was black on black. i hope u not white or another race boastin about dat. btw, samba came from african angola, it existed long b4 slavery. so did tango, rhumba, mambo, salsa, an all dem names u think of. bossa nova...d whole of dem latin dances. were african. rock n roll too
ras189 4 years ago
you REAlY don't have a clue on what you're talking about. Tango has african roots? THERE'S NO BLACKS IN ARGENTINA, you ignorant! None of the music you mentioned exists in África, and so Umbanda,Capoeira.This is black,african pride nonsense. What happened in South America is that african elements COMBINED with european elements formed the culture of South America.And that kind of stuff you will only find here.NOT in África.
mfarret 4 years ago
I know americans don't study world geography at school, and that's one of the reasons they are hated around the world. They know nothing about the world and act like they do know everything. Try to get some information before posting shit on the internet. Wikipedia will be enough for you, since you're the kinda guy that's starting from zero in this information thing. Do you know books? They're much more easy to operate devices than a computer. Try to read one for a change...
mfarret 4 years ago
shut up. first off, my grandmother brazilian and dance samba, n she says it came from angola, africa. i did my research to find out what? exactly.
ras189 4 years ago
mambo=african voodoo princess. d music from haiti went to cuba. samba was SEMBA when it was in angola and got turned into a ballroom dance.
ras189 4 years ago
What?!?! Man, you REALLY need some study. Go to africa and look for samba, or capoeira or umbanda. You'll find nothing. Thousands of brasilian antropologists and sociologists did that. Try to read "Casa Grande & Senzala", from Gilberto Freire, it's a good start.
mfarret 4 years ago
in Angola you have variations of Samba. check it out. the word Samba isnt even portuguese, so explain it to me again
ras189 4 years ago
tango, check up the dictionary or wherever n check it. dont need to be blacks in argentina for dat shit. look at sweden. hardly any blacks but dey got a big reggae scene. salsa came from jazz n other beats in the carribean brought fresh frm the slaves from africa.
ras189 4 years ago
bossa nova was jazz n other styles. capoeira was done by blacks as a self defense mode and untill 1915 if a black was caught doin it dey wud b killed. wtf u kno? yea south america combined some shit, but dey STOLE it. dey hated to manufacturors but not the product?
ras189 4 years ago
Understand this. All the information I posted here is undisputed. in academic circles, Brasilian AND North American and European (Brasilianists). There's no discussion anymore. And by the way:
Samba = African tribal rithms + Polca. Stop listening too much rap (and writing like an idiot) and try to study some music.
mfarret 4 years ago
The reggae stuf in sweden that you mentioned, it's a contemporary thing. People have track of that. It's a globalization thing. No problem. But about the formation of the culture in Brasil was more than 300 years ago. Of course they will loose track of it. But if you think that you know more than people that REALLY studied these subjects, it's your problem. Live in ignorance.
mfarret 4 years ago
Theres' not one single pure african or european thing in Brasil. Its all a result of the mix. And if you can't conceive that because you live in US, that keeps everything separated and label everything, I can't do nothing for you.
mfarret 4 years ago
Americans can't integrate diferent cultures. they keep saying: This is italian american, african american, german american. In brasil, the cultures got naturally mixed, and we call thing just brasilian. but when people study these matters, they find only influences.
mfarret 4 years ago
Hip-Hop it's an american thing, created by blacks of the US, INSIDE the american culture. You won't find hip-hop anywhere in africa, only elements that influenced hip-hop. THIS is what happened to the brasilian culture. And understand one last thing: This kind of stuff is known only by social scientists and the ones that are curious about. Average brasilians don't care about te origins of culture. They just live it.
mfarret 4 years ago
i went to a brazilian restaurant recently. white owned. and they had two black women on the board with juggs on their heads. i was confused as to the message they were trying to convey. that is african tradition in Brazil and NOT european tradition in brazil. and my grandma told me about the racism in brazil and ive seen how blacks are STILL treated. dont give me this unity crap.
ras189 4 years ago
im not talking about purity. im talking about ORIGIN. i could not care less about the mixes these dances underwent. but capoeira was devellopped by African slaves in Brazil, truelly. I never said it came from Africa, but from AfriCANS-who at the time spoke their own languages and had their own cultures. dont get me wrong
ras189 4 years ago
this is a movie that is thought-provoking...really sad at some points.
PinkChicken 5 years ago
yea i saw that movie on tv before, that shit was pretty good
redflaggin 5 years ago
OMG THE SHOW FUCKING ROCKS. A MUST WATCH
bouncychu 5 years ago
THIS REMINDS ME OF HAITI....
xXMasonXx 5 years ago
MAN GO TO VENEZUELA OR PERU OR BRAZIL U WILL SEE SOMETHING THAT AIN"T SHT IN FRONT TO BRazil o and GO to NEW YORk city BRONX OR HRALEM OR BROOKLYN SO THEY CAN GIVE UR MONKEY ASS A TASTE OF GHETTO--NESS K i'm outs 1
greenyoshi48 5 years ago
but cut all this, im born here, im born here shit..yalls on the net arguin with each other...this tells me that u eitha HAVE a stable job, or that its usm1 else payin ya bills...in any case, yall have it EASY..1'
ras189 5 years ago
if ur blessed like i am to travel the world and hang with the niggas ive hung with, and see what they do, and have to do just to "survive"...then ull go back to ur neighborhood not fearin NO1.
ras189 5 years ago
I can relate to that bro
allikohcysp 4 years ago
need to get over themselves because shit is bad, but no where near what it was, and no where NEAR what it COULD be.
ras189 5 years ago
look. America is BLESSED everywhere except places like the 5th Ward, Compton, etc...these asre places FORGOTTEN and NEGLECTED by the gov't..but seing as these places dont represent a FRACTION of the US...nobody gives a fuck. Thats how there cud be these things untill the era of gangsta rap where it was brought to the fore-front. rap is a big reason why the crime rate has gone DOWN since the 80's. but people livin in places like Queens, NY, Brooklyn, Harlem, Jersey, etc...
ras189 5 years ago
why you guys tryna compare ur gangstaness..? its pathetic...but true, that port-au-prince Haiti is sick, so is Rio, Rocinha and a cidade de deus, are two notorious favellas, theres others but these two are the most reputed..Sao Paulo is also serious.
ras189 5 years ago
i saw dat city of god shit folk its deep man, make u think about dat shit cuz
whatupkid 5 years ago
lol, why'd u delete ur comment? I know u wherent brought up in afghanistan u dumb fuck, coz if u were then u wouldnt even be acting like that. U wouldnt be that proud to tell us how much ur country's fucked up. Think before u talk...and I've never said Aghanistan wasnt in a bad situation, recheck my comment. Everybody's seen a piece of action so dont even try talking bout that bullshlt. Trust me, ur the worst liar I've seen.
siops 6 years ago
man, stfu, mid east, africa, and afghasnistan are losses for real but u talk like u've been to those places....I've been to brazil and it's worse than that movie. You piss me off, stop acting like you know a lot of shit bitch...I was born in philippines and usa is still blessed compared to that...punja, pls stop acting like u know a lot of shit until u do.
siops 6 years ago
city of god is real another place crazy as hell sun city in port-au-prince haiti they called the us army to go outhere and try to have peace outhere they had a bloody ass shit outthere niggas still there as we speaks
jeph97 6 years ago
hahaha...omg...so true...i love love love this movie..and i luv what u wrote bout the ghetto....very tru
cmagirl328 6 years ago