mike4ty4 The Risk of getting (Killed or Injured) Are very small beacuse the wires are made of super strong steal however the old cable elevators didnt have strong cables
Thats why they crashed!
And the last thing Standing on the top of elevator doesnt get the idea of the snapping the cables while riding the top of the cab
it doesnt increase the risk of elevator falling down But however the ''Elevator Surfing'' is dangerouse you could get squashed at the top of the elevator shaft
@tanyart78 the cable tension is spot on the reason the cables move around is because they are very long and go around alot of sheaves those cars are 2to1 with huge gearless machines that make em go 500 feet a minute.Because they are roped 2to1 your weight per cable drop is reduced by half compared to a conventional 1to1 setup.If you were to grab one of those ropes and pull it you could easily wiggle it around.Not the case if you were standing on a 1to1 car it would be very tight not easy to move
those elevators were installed back in the day they are really old.they used to be the old carswitch manual operated by a human.they were updated to automatic operation in 1981.The old pana forty detectors were loud as hell to annoy people so they wouldn't hold the door open.
I understand how safe this is considered to be, which is low to most, but the actual riding of the elevator isn't as dangerous as the stress being put on the cables. I know the snapping of an elevator cable is rare, but being on one can help cause a snap. The stress being released can cut your entire body in half, but being a mechanic gives you a little knowledge on safety I suppose.
So that means, don't mess with an elevator unless you're a mechanic. I lost a friend because of a cable snap...
It makes no difference in probability of cable failure between the rider being a "union elevator constructor" or a 1337 3l3v4t0r surf3r.
A safety engineer may have a better understanding, but he ride the cab with a dumbass and when the cab crashes, being a safety engineer doesn't reduce his risk.
But how does riding on the _top_ make the cable more likely to snap than riding on the _inside_ -- or is it just that on the inside you don't have to worry so much about getting hit by the snapped cable?
To Mike4ty4: It has to do with whether or not you're tinkering with the cable, trying to fix it, or making any physical contact with it. The holding isn't very stable on old ones, and they tend to snap for no good reason. That's why it's not recommended you ride on top.
To UrbexNW: When I said an elevator mechanic, I meant someone who had an idea on what to do while being on the top, not in the cab.
"To Mike4ty4: It has to do with whether or not you're tinkering with the cable, trying to fix it, or making any physical contact with it. The holding isn't very stable on old ones, and they tend to snap for no good reason. That's why it's not recommended you ride on top."
Ah. It makes more sense now. So even if you're just on there for "fun" and don't try to touch anything, you might still accidentally "bump" the cables and that might be enough to induce breaking.
You're crazy to ride on top of a dover.
ElevatorsandAlarms 3 months ago
nice vid!
Anjasomc 3 months ago
why was he up there in the first place?
thekingofslade 2 years ago
@thekingofslade I was up there performing normal routine maintaince greasing the bearings and cleaning and inspecting componets on the cartop.
yngheath 1 year ago
mike4ty4 The Risk of getting (Killed or Injured) Are very small beacuse the wires are made of super strong steal however the old cable elevators didnt have strong cables
Thats why they crashed!
And the last thing Standing on the top of elevator doesnt get the idea of the snapping the cables while riding the top of the cab
it doesnt increase the risk of elevator falling down But however the ''Elevator Surfing'' is dangerouse you could get squashed at the top of the elevator shaft
Jan Novak
TY
NukeAttackWarnings 2 years ago
@NukeAttackWarnings the reason the ropes are making noise and moving so much is because that have'nt been tensioned right,
tanyart78 1 year ago
@tanyart78 the cable tension is spot on the reason the cables move around is because they are very long and go around alot of sheaves those cars are 2to1 with huge gearless machines that make em go 500 feet a minute.Because they are roped 2to1 your weight per cable drop is reduced by half compared to a conventional 1to1 setup.If you were to grab one of those ropes and pull it you could easily wiggle it around.Not the case if you were standing on a 1to1 car it would be very tight not easy to move
yngheath 1 year ago
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tanyart78 1 year ago
Sweet corner post rail job
badandy5187 3 years ago
Why the hell are there apparently windows in the shaft?
NJPurling 3 years ago
those elevators were installed back in the day they are really old.they used to be the old carswitch manual operated by a human.they were updated to automatic operation in 1981.The old pana forty detectors were loud as hell to annoy people so they wouldn't hold the door open.
yngheath 3 years ago
The door mechanism is squeaky as hell.
UrbexNW 3 years ago
metal box+ cables+ crash or rope strees= suiside box
joshua8790 3 years ago
Dumbass elevators don't just crash, I have heard of very few crashes in the history of elevators fact is stares are more dangerous.
Ham549 2 years ago
I understand how safe this is considered to be, which is low to most, but the actual riding of the elevator isn't as dangerous as the stress being put on the cables. I know the snapping of an elevator cable is rare, but being on one can help cause a snap. The stress being released can cut your entire body in half, but being a mechanic gives you a little knowledge on safety I suppose.
So that means, don't mess with an elevator unless you're a mechanic. I lost a friend because of a cable snap...
samanoskeake66 4 years ago 2
It makes no difference in probability of cable failure between the rider being a "union elevator constructor" or a 1337 3l3v4t0r surf3r.
A safety engineer may have a better understanding, but he ride the cab with a dumbass and when the cab crashes, being a safety engineer doesn't reduce his risk.
UrbexNW 3 years ago
But how does riding on the _top_ make the cable more likely to snap than riding on the _inside_ -- or is it just that on the inside you don't have to worry so much about getting hit by the snapped cable?
mike4ty4 3 years ago
To Mike4ty4: It has to do with whether or not you're tinkering with the cable, trying to fix it, or making any physical contact with it. The holding isn't very stable on old ones, and they tend to snap for no good reason. That's why it's not recommended you ride on top.
To UrbexNW: When I said an elevator mechanic, I meant someone who had an idea on what to do while being on the top, not in the cab.
samanoskeake66 3 years ago
"To Mike4ty4: It has to do with whether or not you're tinkering with the cable, trying to fix it, or making any physical contact with it. The holding isn't very stable on old ones, and they tend to snap for no good reason. That's why it's not recommended you ride on top."
Ah. It makes more sense now. So even if you're just on there for "fun" and don't try to touch anything, you might still accidentally "bump" the cables and that might be enough to induce breaking.
mike4ty4 3 years ago
Exactly!
samanoskeake66 3 years ago
Bull Shit! don't listen to samanoskeake66 he is full of it.
Ham549 2 years ago 4
I just wouldn't want to get like, "cable burn" by accidently touching the wires and the friction of going at that speed.
BlacklitFloater 2 years ago
why would you ride a hydro cartop? thats lame, its way too slow and never has enough rise to get a rush
mjlipis 4 years ago
thats true but the cable elevators around me are hard to access
InverterDude 3 years ago
I'm a mechanic.
yngheath 4 years ago
are you a mechanic or just elevator surfing? I've done this before only on hydraulic elevators
InverterDude 4 years ago