Aikido in London Tomiki style Toshu Randori (music: In The Nursery)

[iexcalibui2]

awesome randori, keep it up

[theshninja]

Do you ever continue the randori when it hits the ground? Is there newaza in Tomiki aikido?

[theshninja]

I ask because I would like to crosstrain. I feel there's a lot to learn from eachother. Too bad there are no Tomiki schools in my city!

[Logen9fingers]

@theshninja Hi, there isn't really newaza in Tomiki Aikido. Some of us in our club do Judo & BJJ so we try & do a bit when we get a chance for some extra practice. (Apologies - I didn't see your earlier post)

[theshninja]

@Logen9fingers That's what I like to hear! More people should crosstrain. Thanks for the reply.

[tomikikai]

Toshu Randori is a great way to practice techniques from all ranges including sutemi waza as it is not bound by the rules of tanto randori. I think toshu randori is a good tool for the older aikidoka as it teaches good priciples of blending together rather than just solid resistance.

Shaun

[tomikikai]

We practice toshu randori in much the same way as this you have to set up the technique either by applying kuzushi or drawing your partner into a technique that can be countered.

Jugokan has always produced good competitive aikidoka. Ken, Steve & Gary have been some of the best competition aikido that the UK has produced. . If anyone wants a good workout go to the Jugokan. .

Shaun.

[1AikiRonin]

Kata: learning fundamental principles in a prearranged and stable teaching

Routine

Randori: application of techniques in an unstable environment, learnting to adapted techniques instinctively in one moment of perfect timing

It is one thing to talk about Budo and who is right and who is wrong, (and I honestly welcome your comments) it is another to put it into practice...

So please feel free to come along to the Dojo (an open invite) and show us, any time

Steve

Jugokan Dojo

[SenseiStrange]

I am only critical because I like this video. I watch all the London Tomiki stuff. You guys are a stronghold of Tomiki study.

Randori is the key! I feel like you guys are going too fast for your skill level. You all are using power to compensate for holes in technique. Why is there such a difference between your kata and randori? The principles are not translating correctly. There are lots of collisions and sacrifice falling over.

Thanks for the video. I support your work and study.

[Logen9fingers]

In response I would say that faster movement helps lighter person & vice versa. As lightest person in this video I presume your comments apply to me more than the others & you're right that I have a tendancy to speed things up too much sometimes. When the opponent is resisting fully it's damn hard to execute kata perfection unless an aikido genius. Hopefully I'll get there one day though Gary's Gyaku and Steve's sumi pretty spot on technically I think! Anyway your feedback is appreciated!

[SenseiStrange]

One of the things that has helped soften up our randori is having one person attack to start off. Tomiki designed this to be a medium range art. Starting closer in makes it easy to fall into clinches. Aiki can be done there, but if you and your partner are locking up, someone needs to call for a slow down to focus of proper mechanics a kuzushi above all!

Another thing that has softed our randori is just focusing on chaining balance breaks together. People just fall over if you can get 3-6.

[Logen9fingers]

I would say that this type of training is a worthy addition to other aspects including the basics & slow relaxed free practice. In my view people start off very stiff with this sort of toshu and become more relaxed with experience including so called experts who don't normally train like this because of the shock of scrapping with someone who refuses to be thrown. The aim is not to lock up however! It can be a chess battle of feints and counters. Fun but very difficult to do well.

[SenseiStrange]

I agree.

by the way I enjoyed the music.