Amway and Dogshit, are the same. Example, I was walking on the sidewalk, and stepped in some Amway. Or whould you like to find out about your own Dogshit business! The 2 words, are completely interchangeable!
The De Vos creature talks about a small number of IBO's as being disillusioned with the "Business" as though they were in a huge minority. The facts are readily available, ie, that the overwhelming majority, some 99.6% do not even recoup their investment in peripheral tools, seminar attendance, etc. That's an awful lot of "quitters". Does this not reflect somewhat on the business model???
If you guys research Amway/Quixtar in recent years.........profiteering of Tools such as books and tapes was finally purged. the Company did their own investigation into the matter and gave the top distributors responsible for this an ultimatum, they failed to comply and their entire organization was cut off by Amway! No wonder it's the only Network marketing company around since the 1950's!!!
lol 2 people I know joined this... and tried to get me to join too... THANK GOD.. I did research prior... It seems like a good sell when u go to the seminars.. They both now regret joining..
Every fiber in my body said this is a scam! I kept hearing lie after lie after lie. Your organization is a faud but you have been brainwashed so no truth can get through to you.
I was offered this business too, but at the same time I was offered Usana. Usana had a better business plan, and far superior products. Since then, which was a few years ago, i learned that amway/quixtar had altered their business plan to that exactly of Usanas. It is now Illegal to have Pyramid schemes. The Binary compensation plan to that of Usana is also known as multilevel marketing. I first started with Usana because of the great products and later joined a business. check it out!!
I was in it with a friend when I was 18 quit at 19 after working my ass off. Now me and my friend are 24 and can you belive it ? He went back to this scam and wants me to sign up under him. What an idiot.
I went on the stupid meeting he draged me to and crashed it.
You don't make money based on how much you work with this plan, you make money based on how many other people you can drag into the net, and then how well you can help those people drag other people in. It's networking, not marketing.
@aligathorchicago Amway renamed so the company could get away from all the exposure of being a scam. As they say If it smells like a rose,looks like a rose and has thorns like a rose,it's a rose. So Quixstar is Amway and still a scam.
It's funny how people complain about how much money they've "invested" buying books and tapes. My parents are developing this business and they haven't lost a penny because they buy all the books and tapes with the money they make from the products. So if you have lost money in this business it's because you didn't know how to manage your money. But after all that's why you read all those books, because that's how you learn to manage a business and your money.
i think that its hilarious how amway makes these little videos to defend thier scam. they try so hard to make it look like a real legit business interview. the woman in this is a paid actress and they dont prove anything they claim in the video like "since quixtar has launched its been well recieved by the market place." how? what proves that? the little slip of paper they showed? haha yeah everyone needs to wake up and realize amway is a blackhole just sucking money away from the vulnerable
Its shamefull and there shameless been there done it, Never again. lost alot cash from tapes books seminars apparently you need them or it wont work welli had them and it didnt work, lmao sucker:-(
Anyone with half a brain can figure out the system. That's why you tell your IBOs not to explain ALL of the system too early.
Former IBO with good results. I just got tired of meeting new people for the sole reason of introducing them to "the business."
Quixtar? Well received into the marketplace? WHAT marketplace? There's many. Besides that, it's no different than Wal-Mart brainwashing its customers into a cult and getting them to shop exclusively there.
oh so your saying be deceptive until they are slowly intergrated. And Quixtar Ibos are nothing but robots to recruit so the top can make money on tools
4 Gripes after trying this business years ago. It CAN work but : 1. You're strongly encouraged to recruit family and friends and drag them to meetings, in other words annoy the hell out of them with your sure fire path to success.
2. They promote it as a part-time business 15-20 hours per week. BS It takes 50-60 hours per week to make it grow while you drive into various hell's kitchens to present the 'plan".
These assholes are con-men. I had a group of 12 people and I worked this business 40 hrs+ per week and not only did I lose a ton of money but so did everyone I brought into it. I converted my entire house and bought thousands of tapes and brought lots of people to meetings over a 2yr period. Profit zero...expenses over $15,000. It's all a lie.
@maidenhouston Why should someone judge an opportunity from your failures? Let me ask you, has anyone ever achieved at anything else that you've failed at?
Just what exactly did you do for 40+ hours a week?
@maidenhouston The tool program is where the problem lies. These organizations are making a great deal of money selling books and tapes to their downlines. It is a shame because Amway does not create these programs and does not endorse them. Amway can be a way for people to make extra money, but there are people looking to take advantage of those that want to better themselves. It sounds like you were hard by this.
It's so sad how people like you, who did not know or understand the business waste your time trying to talk bs about a company that has been in the business market for 50 years.I got news for you, Amway global is strong than ever, IBO's around the world are building something that your poor, ignorant mind could never understand.I'm so glad you're not in the business, we don't need you.Keep going to your egular job,keep giving your boss the authority to rule your life and have a great life.
At least those working "regular jobs" can spend their free time however they choose, keep their home/work lives separate, and aren't indoctrinated into a set system of political/religious beliefs...oh, and it's often the Ambots who are "poor" and "ignorant", given all the money the throw at this and how they're told not to watch TV, read the paper, etc.
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*yawn*. yet another attempt to thrash a billion dollar company...
*sigh*.
what you fools need to understand is that if there's a will, there's a way. you operate in quixtar they way YOU want to. you can use it just to save money on top quality products and budget your money. but i forgot, most people lack the ability to think past 'GO'.
I'm enjoying my time with the co. i can't speak for anyone else. but i've learned things there that the average joe couldn't teach me. rock on boys n gals!
i love the talk about "partnerships" as a way to make it sound legit. these companies just want to sell their stuff. these companies are not partners, they are just providing their product, as they would to any buyer. I use a Toshiba computer, does that mean Toshiba has partnered with me?
That guy is a complete asshole. You're told you only have to work 10-15 hours a week when someone shows "the plan" but this asshole says people want something for nothing.
So your "recruiter" says it's easy, and then they turn around and say "you're not working hard enough" LOL!
If this video was REALLY about truth, they'd let me post my link explaining what AmQuixAltiGlobalWayCor (or whatever they call themselves in the future) is really about, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
false on all accounts. The fact is, it's much harder to shut down a scam like this than to skate by on technicalities to keep it open. Amway got in trouble, "reorganized", renamed themselves (and then did it again), and kept going. Look at the facts, not the claims.
No, they just get their IBOs to sell and recruit people, who in turn sell and recruit people, who in turn sell and recruit people, ad nauseum. Yeah, that's not door to door sales at all.
I've done the research, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I haven't. Think about that.
Has McDonalds been investigated by the FTC, the BBB, and the IRS AT THE SAME TIME for their business practices, AND THE STRUCTURE OF THEIR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE? Quixtar is barely legal as it is.
Apparently you have not done your complete homework.
IF Quixtar / Amway Global were actually found to have done anything wrong don't you think that the FTC and IRS would have shut them down by now?
McDonalds was investigated by the FTC and IRS at the same time yes plus almost voted an illegal business by congress. The BBB for your information is not a government entity and to be a member, which Quixtar / Amway Global is, you have to have high standards and business practices.
This post is all wrong. the FTC is investigating them currently. The BBB isn't something you can trust anymore. Companies can become a member easily, and the best part is, if your business has no customers, you can't get complaints. Quixstar HAS no costumers! That's the scam. Understand? The fact that they are rated highly on the BBB yet criticized so much IS the scam.. yet you use it as an argument? The BBB can't be trusted these days.
yeah but the BBB says that you have to conduct your business honestly and not make false claims. They say these requirements have to be met but standards like that are easily undetected.
Ask the FTC, BBB, and IRS how good a company Quixtar is. They're ALL investigating Quixtar (who sometimes goes by another alias, Alticor) for their business practices. Good companies aren't routinely investigated by three government agencies. YOU need to do some research on Quixtar and the basics of marketing.
Mass marketing is the future, the door to door salesman pitch is dead. It costs too much to run and it sacrifices efficiency for personal contact, which is a bad trade off.
They are? Don't make me prove you wrong which I have done to several other people lately.
Quixtar / Amway Global does not do the door to door salesman stuff but is ok because you are able to have your own opinions and lack of education which you have obviously gotten by living in the past and beleiving others that either have done the business many many years ago as well as those posting old old facts.
If you look at it McDonalds and really any big successful business has been investigated.
A barely legal company that exists due to technicalities while swindling 99% of people who invest in it does NOT make it a legitimate company. Look at the facts, do some research and you'll see that Quixtar (under any name/alias)is a scam. It is the worst kind of multi-level marketing, an industry that at best if flawed. Person-to-person marketing is the past, not the future. Do some honest research and you'll see that Quixtar is a fraud.
I have done some honest research and Quixtar / Amway Global is a very good company which while Amway did have some problems years ago those have been taken care of.
Person to Person Marketing is not the past which it can still be done you just have to mix some of the old with the new technologies.
I am sorry but seems like you are the one that needs to do some research because if you just do it by what others post and also what is on Google you will find negative on everyone and everything.
Those that have not made it in the business need to honestly admit that they did not work for the business because I mean if the business did not work or was illegal Amway Global / Quixtar would not have been around for almost 50 years, be a member of the Better Business Burea, favored by the FTC, have so many IBOs, and be in so many countries and territories.
I feel sorry for those that are so negative and close minded about the great opportunity of Quixtar / Amway Global / great products.
Show us your tax returns you genius! Prove us idiots wrong. Idiots that still believe in individuality and freedom and liberty. Can you do this? Can you provide 1 line from an honest 1040 to legitimize yourself? I humbly ask you this.
I am only closed minded about those that brag about their wealth the minute they pucker up when someone asks them to prove it via a tax return. I don't think that asking for visual proof is too much to ask. I am sick of asking for it but I can't help it.
This company and business plan are a joke, a scam. The main problem, their products are ridicously expensive. Way expensive! Even the people in the business don't want to buy products they could get cheaper at any store.
They are? That is funny cause I haven't heard or seen anything about it.
The reason that Quixtar is changing to Amway Global is to make it less confusing for people because they think that it is two companies when it is one..
I have no idea where you are getting your information but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
...and by "work hard enough", they mean recruit every single person they know, make sure they buy products exclusively from them, and (while they're at it, based on the structure of the company) murder some of the higher ups so their points/money/lucky charms go to them instead.
OH, and buy all the "tools" that only make the higher ups richer in the first place.
AND go to all the meetings/retreats/seminars/sleepovers/etc.
AND put up with making $1400 A YEAR (if they're lucky)
This guy evidently hasn't heard the OTHER Quixtar/Amway guy say that you could make $250,000 in just 15-18hours a week????? I mean, that's the first phrase that caught my attention. Until I regained my common sense...
these "executives" are stuck on a remedial level of leadership asking "whats wrong, we wanna know why it didnt work." if you were really concerned about your business then YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT EVERY POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH UR ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE! thats ur responsibility, we all understand things go wrong, but u should be developing a FIX for the problems these "critics" are facing, not asking what they are!
I will say that WWDB will cost you about 2-5k a year to be "plugged in" and CORE. This is before you earn a sign Quixtar PV.
There is zero comp plan for the tens of millions the support orgs are pulling in from all the variations of tools they are taking you and your group for.
Quixtar may be upfront with their comp plan but they allow the support orgs to rob people blind and that is a problem.
LMAO. I love the Doug DeVos comment about the fact that with Millions of people in the business, there are bound to be a "few" that didn't have a good experience.
Try a Few Million. There are maybe 100 or so people at the top that have the luxurious lifestyle they claim you can have.
Most of that money comes from profit they made off the millions of people at the bottom. Who bought books and tapes known as "Tools" for "Building" your business. Pretty clever marketing huh?
Of course if you look at B&N and Circuit City's investor statements (all 60+ and 70+ pages respectively), there's not one mention of Quixtar, amway, or the like.
At the end she uses the word partnership?? Define business partnership. If it means I will let you sell my stuff then yes. Amway has sold other company's products for decades (as well as some of their own). The problem is not the product but the selling of a dream that will only be realized by a few people while being presented as a near certainty for success for many.
It doesn't take a brain to have an opinion. YouTube gives us the freedom to express even bad ideas. Statues aren't raised to critics, they're raised to people of courage. And it doesn't take courage to type up something here.
LOL @ those lists at the end. Quixtar is 3rd on that general merchandise list but why doesn't it highlite the amazing 4.4% categorie share compared to Amazon's 76.5%?
quixtar is the number affiliate with circuit city, they sponsor the fasted man in the world with the nutrilite line, number cosmetics with artistry, number 3 energy drink, its just a business ppl, its not a scam haha its pretty easy to pick out the ones who have no money and just dumb opinions
Oh yeah, I have NO money what so ever, because I'm not affiliated with Quixtar. RIGHT!
It's actually pretty easy to pick out people who have no independent thought though, as they preach the SAME THING. You're only defense, to every FACTUAL statement against Quixtar/Amway, is "Oh look at our partner stores"
your just ignorant and you like to jump on the wagon of all these idiots who hate corporate america. the people who actually lose money with quixtar are the ones with no education. you have to be business oriented and rep the products well to succeed. say what you want about amway/quixtar they have great products, i agree back in the day it was kind of a cult but now there is better leadership and we dont try to throw it down your throat well atleast my organization doesnt.
no education? i thought the big scam was the teaching system?? thats what siper is saying about anyone who is using a cd/book/association type system.
That guy is a complete asshole. You're told you only have to work 10-15 hours a week when someone shows "the plan" but this asshole says people want something for nothing.
So your "recruiter" says it's easy, and then they turn around and say "you're not working hard enough" LOL!
Just because its easy doesnt mean it takes no effort.... the business and its concepts are VERY SIMPLE... but they tell you when you start that you get out what you put in its not a get rich quick scheme you can make money fast but only if you bust hump to do it.
these people are not "recruiters" they become Family to you! So take your head out of your ass!!
Difference between a j.o.b and Q* is that with a j.o.b you're GUARANTEED to MAKE money come pay day. With Q* you're NOT GUARANTEED to make ANYTHING and most IBO's LOSE money.
Q* says the average IBO income is just under $1,400 a year (that's an amazing $26.92 a week or, working your basic 10-15 hours, between $1.80 and $2.69 an hour)
but better yet, this is gross income, I wonder what the average IBO NET income is a year? After all, Net is much more important than gross
if you stopped coming to your job, im sure they fired you. If you stopped talking to your upline and taking their advice, im pretty sure your going to fail.
its in a downward spiral, no family calling th shots just lawyers and marketers changing the plan, making diamonds get accredited or no one get their bonus. great biz for the lawyers,
You guys who criticize Quixtar and Amway have no idea what you are talking about. Basically just small words lashing out at something you don't understand. Quixtar is not a scam, and is no where even close to similar to the 70's scam you mentioned. Quixtar is partnered with over 100 other Fortune 500 companies, markets over 1 million products, and pays out over 2 Billion in bonus cheques yearly...how is that similar to a guy who mailed out a single sheet of paper? Not even close.
Diamond kingpins? Get your facts straight before saying more stupid things, guys. If you don't like Quixtar, that's fine, don't join. But don't run your mouth off without actually knowing what you are saying. I think that the Better Business Bureau, Esso, Microsoft, Dell, MasterCard and many other companies have more lawyers than you do, and have had their lawyers check Quixtar out before making a decision to joint venture with Quixtar.
You are so brainwashed, it 's remind me 2 years ago. I was a fanatic of Qxtr for 3 years. I forgive you. Wallmart sells Heinz product and it dont change my opinion of that company who underpays their employees. But Heinz have noproblems with that, it pays anyway. Stop putting your head in the sand.
You guys are all drinking the Kool-Aid. There are only two parties making money off of this - the diamond kingpins (from the tool business) and Quixtar (Amway). There was a similar scam in the 70s with a guy offering to sell you his secret wealth scheme for $20. When it arrived, it was a single sheet of paper instructing the reader to advertise to sell a guaranteed scheme for $20, then send THEM a copy.
if it was it would be better, but its not and its going down, they screwd folks over when it went from amyway to quixtar, so count on it when the start calling it amway again.
Quixtar and many MLMs are great business. The problems steps in when people try to build by selling to everyone they know and this is hard since products cost more than average. Have a look at my video and you'll see why products in some of these companies are so high while others are more .... 'normal'.
They don't believe that they are the same.They believe that Amway has become a supplier of Quixtar.Even though Quixtar is on record as saying that they feel changing the name back will lighten the negative publicity they have gotten.Shee-ple I say, they are all just shee-ple!!!
Thisisknown2btrue only about 10 percent make 6 figure incomes....which is pretty good...this business is not easy because of the fact u have to be a salesman.
TGPA...how is it a scam when my mentor who is 21 years old is turning platinum in 4 months? he started from the bottom and is moving up!! that goes to show that not all the big boys at the top make all the money...and yes im 19, very young, and im tearing this business up
Mattyloom, listen, you're not going to succeed in Quixtar till you get a percentage of the promo business, and that won't happen. How many succeed in Quixtar? Only the "kings" at the top. Watch the Dateline expose, which should be renamed, "To Catch A Quixtar Predator" (you're only a Predator if you work the business when knowing of "the lie", and now you know).
This video is clearly propaganda. No one other than Amway/Quixtar) makes money in this scam. IBOs are not really businesses at all. A real business pays YOU to sell their products; you don't pay money to set up as a business. Without the tools it's a classic pyramid scheme; with them it's extortion. The tools supplied by the diamond distributors (Yager et al) are the REAL expense. Please read Eric Scheibeler's "Merchants of Deception" (downloadable for free) for a personal account of this scam.
From your comment I guess you're either 1) IBO (victim) or 2) Quixtar PR hack. Your use of language implies youth. If you are #1, I encourage you to read Scheibeler's book (Merchants of Deception). If you see yourself in it, then you're not alone; leave while your losses are small. If you are #2, then have you no shame? Come clean and own up to your allegiance. Scams can be legal or illegal. Chiropractors, psychics and Quixtar are legal, but scams just the same.
People really don't understand business at all. I've been a business owner for awhile now and when I saw this business it just made sense to me. If you understand how franchising works then it makes sense. I guess I got in with the right business team.
I'm a business owner in VA, and there's no way that makes sense. The contract says that each "IBO" makes 1,400 a year, just so they can cover their asses.
Keep living your life on youtube. Trying to prove it's a scam after the FTC proved it wasn't already. I feel sorry for all those who are so narrow minded.
In reality it's a scam, but legally and paper wise it's not, because the tell you the income that you'll make in the contract. And it's not millions of dollars, it's about.. 1,400.. That won't even cover my personal property tax. The IRS Auditor working hard and busting his butt only made 32,000, He was brainwashed, He shot his freaking clock..Now he's without a home, car, and money. Oh god, it's primerica all over again.
Your reading the contract wrong. It's says the average IBO makes an extra 1,400 a year. Now according to the FTC here's whats considered as an average IBO. An active average IBO is someone who attends a meeting once a year. You attempt to make a sale and last but not least you talk about the business to someone. LMAO! So when your taking an average. You have to include these so called active IBO's. But an extra 1,400 a year is not bad for little amount of work.
Well I don't this IRS Auditor either and if he did quit his job making only 32,000 a year then that's stupid. He's obviously didn't counsel about that decision. Our business team would have never told him to do that. Who is this so called guy by the way? I could never find the I know someone, that knows someone, that knows someone who lost his shirt.
Both of these guys are eerily similar to Used Car Salesman. Watch again....you want that car for How much? No freebies here. I can put you in that 88 Nissan for $78,000. How can I be a crook if I associate w/ Nissan?
You could hire him on the condition that he quit the business, or failing that, get him to admit how much he lost in Quixtar despite his time/effort...I'm sure it'll be a priceless moment! LOL
Hard work and how much effort you put in??? But I thought we would only be working 10 to 15 hours a week..Not 80 hours in 3 days! I bet not one of you zombies can tell us how good you are doing in the real world.
Best of luck...perhaps you could make "no Quixtar sales pitches" a condition of his employment and maybe even pass out "Quixtar Sucks" buttons for your customers to wear, in case he has a slip-up...LOL
I would love that, My heart would flutter with delight! He's such an asshole! I just don't know how a drug doing, cheating loser, becomes a prayer boy? He didn't even drink at his own wedding. Orange juice for the toast!
Yes he is, Lying all the time, adultery, not honoring his mother and father, Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Haha, he's no saint. It makes me sick to even hear his robotic voice and movements. I'm thinking of making a spoof of quixtar, it'll be great.
Now I don't know this guy your talking about. But him & maybe his business team are miss representing our company. I can say this if you saw the business from our team and what we do. You would see something totally different from what you saw. This business is all about having good coaches. If you have bad coach then your not going to be taught properly. I'm sure you know some people in your line of work that aren't as good of a worker as you are. It's the same thing.
So your saying it's not okay to change and make yourself become a better person. So he should continue to cheat and do drugs. Yeah that's very encouraging. lol
Yeah, well I was talking about him cheating and doing drugs and all of the sudden he's god's right hand man? All more power for him stopping, but since they sprinkle enough bible into the scam he's brainwashed.
I have respect for people, so I don't nag them like you zombies do. You don't have many repeat customers because you all don't treat them right, About 99% of the time, I have repeat customers. Wow all of you zombies sound the freaking same...those tapes must be everywhere! This is a job for Batman!
What state is your radio show and how successful is it? Are you up there with Mike & the Mad dog or Howard Stern. We all know the talk show host makes the show not the producer. Keep pulling in those ratings for your boss. Because if you don't your gone.
Now that's funny Outside! 4cheeks keeps talking about the one person and herself who have failed in Quixtar. People if your working for a new company are you going to the most successful employee there to find out about the company or are you going to the guy who just got canned? Don't make me have to answer that for you. LOL
Failed in quixtar? The people who are working for quixtar, YES WORKING, NOT BEING THEIR OWN BOSS, are the ones failing. Sure you'll be having dreams of the luxurious life, but in the real world, I'm the one living it.
Once again Whatsayak is trying to be funny. AmQuix Drones that's very creative. You guy and 4cheeks here are employee drones. Yes boss, whatever you say boss, do you need another cup coffee boss, of course I'll work the weekend boss, I'll take a pay cut boss. LOL
Employee drones, my ass...I produce a successful radio morning show for my market area, as well as hosting one on weekends. Of course, you AmQuix drones will never hear my work b/c you're too busy listening to your motivational tapes nonstop and trying to think of new ways to pitch the company w/out mentioning its name. Call me when you go Diamond, LOL.
Yeah, whatever...as opposed to "The tools are optional, but so is success...just skip your next CC payment if it won't leave you w/enough to attend the next function...I'm sorry I couldn't attend Mom's funeral, had to show a plan...Don't wanna join the business, then don't talk to me again even though we've known each other for years"? Yeah, being an AmQuix drone's much better...
Hahaha, I have more stress than you. All you do is bother people in stores and at their homes with stuff full of junk. XS sucks! I would have to drink the whole shipment for some energy. Plus, I don't answer to anyone, they answer to me. You are a minion, Sure I'll go to my cult like event and praise a mere mortal, and not realize he is ripping us all off! Sure that's what I'll do.
I wish I could show him all of this information. He's like a robot...it's scary, but I haven't found the mute or power button yet. I know their baby is going to come out talking just like Daddy!
LOL! Doug Devos is a fucking idiot. "Out of that population, it's only natural for a FEW to have a bad experience" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a fucking dipshit! It's more like the opposite, only a few have a good experience in the millions of people that tried that scam
That's your response to something I posted over 3 months ago? You must've just joined the "almighty" Q*.
Good luck. And yes, I'm sure he has more money than me. So do professional athletes, movie stars, music artists, and I don't say anything negative about them.
By the way when using the word "your" use it correctly. The word is "YOU'RE" as in "You are".
But then again, nobody has ever claimed IBO's to be educated
this is fucking shit, I was amway member as well, couldn't make even one, only good for those who are in higher positions they make money everyday. Its almost half a century old business, recorded casset players talk abt Ronald Reagan who's already dead by now, and its rule is same shit. I wouldn't say it ruined my life. I have a story who was in SP(silver), year ago I heard he left amway and has joined another networking business, whats a big deal??
My father was involved in an identical MLM scam and when you see a father sell his legit business and put in 80 hrs a week/ attend all the functions only to see the home he raised his family in to be foreclosed upon. You're right... 100% AMERICAN DREAM. Keep this sh** away from good hearted people.
Yeah many people walk into mlm's like this and matrix programs, gifting programs at a point of desperation.
They do everything they are taught hoping for and holding out on paying a bill or two here then utilities, phone disconnected. mortgage & other loans defaulted on. surely the bulk of these people lease BMWs or buy them on the wholesale market just to look the part.
aww I'm so sorry to hear that, my brother in law sold his house and is still in the quixtar scam, he just lied and told us that he didn't like to cut the lawn so he sold the house.
Yeah...surely if he was making money, he could just hire someone to cut the grass if he hated it so much. But hey, no one said these AmQuix drones were the sharpest crayons in the box...LOL
Trsut me he's not...him and his wife showed up looking like crayons wearing orange matching quixtar shirts on father's day. They had it sewn. SO funny! I always hear lies. Once they saw me in Target and flew into an aisle. Once they saw me on the road they drove faster, I don't think they want "negativity" around them. Just because I tried to join and it didn't work out...like 99% percent of the time it doesn't work out.
Maybe you could get that A&E show Intervention to do an ep on him...I don't think they've ever done one on MLM deprogramming before, could start a trend! LOL
brainwash! the "diamonds" and all other high ranked jewels make their money from selling "motivational" material and selling convention tickets. this is crap, and for those of you who say that i am a "quitter," im not easy to brainwash, therefore i never got started in this garbage. freedom my ass, your bound to these meetings, seminars, and conventions. these people are worse than evangelists.
Mistakes, like setting up dummy companies and stealing money from the Canadian Government. Little things. Like sexual assault by it's leaders.(Yager) Hypocracy about being faithful to your wife.(Britt) Intolerance of onyone outside the business.(Everyone)
Not to mention racism (Gooch), expressing a desire to assasinate a Democratic politician (Childress) and drug possession (Fredericks, as mentioned in the Dateline investigation).
This video is COMPLETELY TRUE!!!!
joelcramosrojas 1 year ago
Amway and Dogshit, are the same. Example, I was walking on the sidewalk, and stepped in some Amway. Or whould you like to find out about your own Dogshit business! The 2 words, are completely interchangeable!
Forrestanfo 1 year ago 2
That is very unfortunate. I have found beforeyoujoin. org to be very helpful.
wwwAreYouToxicTv 1 year ago 4
The De Vos creature talks about a small number of IBO's as being disillusioned with the "Business" as though they were in a huge minority. The facts are readily available, ie, that the overwhelming majority, some 99.6% do not even recoup their investment in peripheral tools, seminar attendance, etc. That's an awful lot of "quitters". Does this not reflect somewhat on the business model???
steveh777ify 1 year ago
Im gonna slap this Mother scuker!
Im a financial analyst and i have done a case study on business tree model and it fails in all aspects!
manicindhouse 1 year ago
If you guys research Amway/Quixtar in recent years.........profiteering of Tools such as books and tapes was finally purged. the Company did their own investigation into the matter and gave the top distributors responsible for this an ultimatum, they failed to comply and their entire organization was cut off by Amway! No wonder it's the only Network marketing company around since the 1950's!!!
EasternMerchant 1 year ago
lol 2 people I know joined this... and tried to get me to join too... THANK GOD.. I did research prior... It seems like a good sell when u go to the seminars.. They both now regret joining..
elchicho25 1 year ago
Every fiber in my body said this is a scam! I kept hearing lie after lie after lie. Your organization is a faud but you have been brainwashed so no truth can get through to you.
webstercat 1 year ago
i so agree, ITs the best business and people are just lazy that don't wanna do anything and want something out of it.
jmunsif 1 year ago
I was offered this business too, but at the same time I was offered Usana. Usana had a better business plan, and far superior products. Since then, which was a few years ago, i learned that amway/quixtar had altered their business plan to that exactly of Usanas. It is now Illegal to have Pyramid schemes. The Binary compensation plan to that of Usana is also known as multilevel marketing. I first started with Usana because of the great products and later joined a business. check it out!!
corydonross 1 year ago
can you say green screen.
tomatoma3000 1 year ago
It is a Scam! You be better off joining Avon.
ke4jcd 2 years ago
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ke4jcd 2 years ago
I was in it with a friend when I was 18 quit at 19 after working my ass off. Now me and my friend are 24 and can you belive it ? He went back to this scam and wants me to sign up under him. What an idiot.
I went on the stupid meeting he draged me to and crashed it.
lti12 2 years ago 6
You don't make money based on how much you work with this plan, you make money based on how many other people you can drag into the net, and then how well you can help those people drag other people in. It's networking, not marketing.
SolMaster 2 years ago
I love how they make it look like a news program. What a scam.
Doggieman1111 2 years ago 4
Only the top 20 make any money with this. And you ain't one of the top 20.
Doggieman1111 2 years ago
Scumbags.
eyetolduso 2 years ago
I have never heard about Quixtar. What is it?
aligathorchicago 2 years ago
big fat scam is what it is
lti12 2 years ago 2
@aligathorchicago Amway renamed so the company could get away from all the exposure of being a scam. As they say If it smells like a rose,looks like a rose and has thorns like a rose,it's a rose. So Quixstar is Amway and still a scam.
Hardeen31 1 year ago
oh no, thery're right on a few, but they forgot something though, a few thousand maybe........
05Eagles1 2 years ago
It's funny how people complain about how much money they've "invested" buying books and tapes. My parents are developing this business and they haven't lost a penny because they buy all the books and tapes with the money they make from the products. So if you have lost money in this business it's because you didn't know how to manage your money. But after all that's why you read all those books, because that's how you learn to manage a business and your money.
elbandidebandis 2 years ago
And the reason you buy them is to keep your upline's pockets stuffed, since that's where the money is...LOL
WhatsAYak 2 years ago
@elbandidebandis Your parents are brainwashed.
TheJack81 2 years ago 2
It's the same arguments cults make. You have no right to complain if you were:
- in the cult and left
- never in the cult
Amount of people that may complain: 0
teddyplusplus 2 years ago 19
@teddyplusplus Ahhhhhhh, By George I think you're onto something. Good point!
gmccord1970 1 year ago
i think that its hilarious how amway makes these little videos to defend thier scam. they try so hard to make it look like a real legit business interview. the woman in this is a paid actress and they dont prove anything they claim in the video like "since quixtar has launched its been well recieved by the market place." how? what proves that? the little slip of paper they showed? haha yeah everyone needs to wake up and realize amway is a blackhole just sucking money away from the vulnerable
UKNW217 2 years ago 13
Its shamefull and there shameless been there done it, Never again. lost alot cash from tapes books seminars apparently you need them or it wont work welli had them and it didnt work, lmao sucker:-(
torodeyeah 2 years ago 12
Oh Rob Davidson...
Anyone with half a brain can figure out the system. That's why you tell your IBOs not to explain ALL of the system too early.
Former IBO with good results. I just got tired of meeting new people for the sole reason of introducing them to "the business."
Quixtar? Well received into the marketplace? WHAT marketplace? There's many. Besides that, it's no different than Wal-Mart brainwashing its customers into a cult and getting them to shop exclusively there.
ORUPRANKSTAZ 2 years ago 12
oh so your saying be deceptive until they are slowly intergrated. And Quixtar Ibos are nothing but robots to recruit so the top can make money on tools
burson007 2 years ago 2
Um. Duh. Thanks for rehashing what we all already knew.
ORUPRANKSTAZ 2 years ago
4 Gripes after trying this business years ago. It CAN work but : 1. You're strongly encouraged to recruit family and friends and drag them to meetings, in other words annoy the hell out of them with your sure fire path to success.
2. They promote it as a part-time business 15-20 hours per week. BS It takes 50-60 hours per week to make it grow while you drive into various hell's kitchens to present the 'plan".
3. Obscuring that it is Amway
4. Religious overtones inappropriate/ cult-like
Blues353 2 years ago 10
These assholes are con-men. I had a group of 12 people and I worked this business 40 hrs+ per week and not only did I lose a ton of money but so did everyone I brought into it. I converted my entire house and bought thousands of tapes and brought lots of people to meetings over a 2yr period. Profit zero...expenses over $15,000. It's all a lie.
maidenhouston 2 years ago 27
@maidenhouston Why should someone judge an opportunity from your failures? Let me ask you, has anyone ever achieved at anything else that you've failed at?
Just what exactly did you do for 40+ hours a week?
BloomfieldInc 1 year ago
@maidenhouston The tool program is where the problem lies. These organizations are making a great deal of money selling books and tapes to their downlines. It is a shame because Amway does not create these programs and does not endorse them. Amway can be a way for people to make extra money, but there are people looking to take advantage of those that want to better themselves. It sounds like you were hard by this.
malbane2006 1 year ago
@malbane2006 HIT hard by this.
malbane2006 1 year ago
@maidenhouston
Expenses over $15,000? LOL! How about a bonus for $15,000?
Here you go; youtube.com/watch?v=BbANpbS1Wqg&feature=related
But I know.... it's a fake cheque... it's even more esoteric when you cash it at the bank and it actually gets cashed! Enjoy your own asshole!
Terratonific 2 weeks ago
Bah
Overpriced products.
Secret Tool Business where MOST of the money by the leaders is made.
Good business if you're a retard with no chance of success anywhere else in life.
hnican 2 years ago 13
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It's so sad how people like you, who did not know or understand the business waste your time trying to talk bs about a company that has been in the business market for 50 years.I got news for you, Amway global is strong than ever, IBO's around the world are building something that your poor, ignorant mind could never understand.I'm so glad you're not in the business, we don't need you.Keep going to your egular job,keep giving your boss the authority to rule your life and have a great life.
msaladrigas 2 years ago
At least those working "regular jobs" can spend their free time however they choose, keep their home/work lives separate, and aren't indoctrinated into a set system of political/religious beliefs...oh, and it's often the Ambots who are "poor" and "ignorant", given all the money the throw at this and how they're told not to watch TV, read the paper, etc.
WhatsAYak 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
*yawn*. yet another attempt to thrash a billion dollar company...
*sigh*.
what you fools need to understand is that if there's a will, there's a way. you operate in quixtar they way YOU want to. you can use it just to save money on top quality products and budget your money. but i forgot, most people lack the ability to think past 'GO'.
I'm enjoying my time with the co. i can't speak for anyone else. but i've learned things there that the average joe couldn't teach me. rock on boys n gals!
antiignorant 2 years ago
i love the talk about "partnerships" as a way to make it sound legit. these companies just want to sell their stuff. these companies are not partners, they are just providing their product, as they would to any buyer. I use a Toshiba computer, does that mean Toshiba has partnered with me?
1big1foot1 2 years ago 2
Amway critics propaganda = cold hard facts, 99.9% IBOs losing money when factoring in time spent and money wasted on "tools"
Amway IBO propaganda = BS, lies, trips to the Bentley dealership, fake it till you make it (you never will), brain washing
goon6818 2 years ago 3
They didn't teach the Amway business model at Wharton
goon6818 2 years ago 5
That guy is a complete asshole. You're told you only have to work 10-15 hours a week when someone shows "the plan" but this asshole says people want something for nothing.
So your "recruiter" says it's easy, and then they turn around and say "you're not working hard enough" LOL!
Which one is it?
baddog7676 2 years ago 3
the concept is simple. but the work itself is not easy. truth is most ppl do not do what is recommended b/c most ppl hate selling
snapplelemon 2 years ago
QUIXTAR IS A CULT. PERIOD. watch the dateline episode on it. enough said.
mariposa0626 3 years ago 3
If this video was REALLY about truth, they'd let me post my link explaining what AmQuixAltiGlobalWayCor (or whatever they call themselves in the future) is really about, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago 2
false on all accounts. The fact is, it's much harder to shut down a scam like this than to skate by on technicalities to keep it open. Amway got in trouble, "reorganized", renamed themselves (and then did it again), and kept going. Look at the facts, not the claims.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
No, they just get their IBOs to sell and recruit people, who in turn sell and recruit people, who in turn sell and recruit people, ad nauseum. Yeah, that's not door to door sales at all.
I've done the research, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I haven't. Think about that.
Has McDonalds been investigated by the FTC, the BBB, and the IRS AT THE SAME TIME for their business practices, AND THE STRUCTURE OF THEIR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE? Quixtar is barely legal as it is.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
Apparently you have not done your complete homework.
IF Quixtar / Amway Global were actually found to have done anything wrong don't you think that the FTC and IRS would have shut them down by now?
McDonalds was investigated by the FTC and IRS at the same time yes plus almost voted an illegal business by congress. The BBB for your information is not a government entity and to be a member, which Quixtar / Amway Global is, you have to have high standards and business practices.
JonWht70 3 years ago
This post is all wrong. the FTC is investigating them currently. The BBB isn't something you can trust anymore. Companies can become a member easily, and the best part is, if your business has no customers, you can't get complaints. Quixstar HAS no costumers! That's the scam. Understand? The fact that they are rated highly on the BBB yet criticized so much IS the scam.. yet you use it as an argument? The BBB can't be trusted these days.
CenaxKikia 2 years ago 4
yeah but the BBB says that you have to conduct your business honestly and not make false claims. They say these requirements have to be met but standards like that are easily undetected.
532jdub 2 years ago 14
Ask the FTC, BBB, and IRS how good a company Quixtar is. They're ALL investigating Quixtar (who sometimes goes by another alias, Alticor) for their business practices. Good companies aren't routinely investigated by three government agencies. YOU need to do some research on Quixtar and the basics of marketing.
Mass marketing is the future, the door to door salesman pitch is dead. It costs too much to run and it sacrifices efficiency for personal contact, which is a bad trade off.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago 2
They are? Don't make me prove you wrong which I have done to several other people lately.
Quixtar / Amway Global does not do the door to door salesman stuff but is ok because you are able to have your own opinions and lack of education which you have obviously gotten by living in the past and beleiving others that either have done the business many many years ago as well as those posting old old facts.
If you look at it McDonalds and really any big successful business has been investigated.
JonWht70 3 years ago
can You rate my video, so I can view and rate your video?
ameritradeglobal 3 years ago
A barely legal company that exists due to technicalities while swindling 99% of people who invest in it does NOT make it a legitimate company. Look at the facts, do some research and you'll see that Quixtar (under any name/alias)is a scam. It is the worst kind of multi-level marketing, an industry that at best if flawed. Person-to-person marketing is the past, not the future. Do some honest research and you'll see that Quixtar is a fraud.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
I have done some honest research and Quixtar / Amway Global is a very good company which while Amway did have some problems years ago those have been taken care of.
Person to Person Marketing is not the past which it can still be done you just have to mix some of the old with the new technologies.
I am sorry but seems like you are the one that needs to do some research because if you just do it by what others post and also what is on Google you will find negative on everyone and everything.
JonWht70 3 years ago
Those that have not made it in the business need to honestly admit that they did not work for the business because I mean if the business did not work or was illegal Amway Global / Quixtar would not have been around for almost 50 years, be a member of the Better Business Burea, favored by the FTC, have so many IBOs, and be in so many countries and territories.
I feel sorry for those that are so negative and close minded about the great opportunity of Quixtar / Amway Global / great products.
JonWht70 3 years ago
Show us your tax returns you genius! Prove us idiots wrong. Idiots that still believe in individuality and freedom and liberty. Can you do this? Can you provide 1 line from an honest 1040 to legitimize yourself? I humbly ask you this.
I am only closed minded about those that brag about their wealth the minute they pucker up when someone asks them to prove it via a tax return. I don't think that asking for visual proof is too much to ask. I am sick of asking for it but I can't help it.
swampdonkey5150 3 years ago
I think you have a better chance of seeing Bigfoot than ever seeing any documentation from an IBO verifying their income claims are accurate. :-D
WhatsAYak 3 years ago 2
people need to know the true, get the true your self, check the history for every company, you can find it in the web. be smart
cachorro707 3 years ago
Tell us the truth
007g62 3 years ago
This company and business plan are a joke, a scam. The main problem, their products are ridicously expensive. Way expensive! Even the people in the business don't want to buy products they could get cheaper at any store.
whiteboy1209 3 years ago
AMWAY was busted years ago for making false promises to "IBOs" on how much they would make.
AMWAY changed it's name to QUIXTAR to look like a new company.
Now QUIXTAR is being investigated by the FTC, BBB, and IRS for even worse practices. It's not a coincidence, people.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
They are? That is funny cause I haven't heard or seen anything about it.
The reason that Quixtar is changing to Amway Global is to make it less confusing for people because they think that it is two companies when it is one..
I have no idea where you are getting your information but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
JonWht70 3 years ago
...and by "work hard enough", they mean recruit every single person they know, make sure they buy products exclusively from them, and (while they're at it, based on the structure of the company) murder some of the higher ups so their points/money/lucky charms go to them instead.
OH, and buy all the "tools" that only make the higher ups richer in the first place.
AND go to all the meetings/retreats/seminars/sleepovers/etc.
AND put up with making $1400 A YEAR (if they're lucky)
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
wtf?
dudeosouth2 3 years ago
snake oil salesmen
mjosp 3 years ago
im not gonna lie! at first it seems like
quick money! but u do have 2 fucking work for it!
but when u do it sure pays off! it did for me~
and u gotta understand and learn..
BafJeeZy 3 years ago
This guy evidently hasn't heard the OTHER Quixtar/Amway guy say that you could make $250,000 in just 15-18hours a week????? I mean, that's the first phrase that caught my attention. Until I regained my common sense...
kraftymomma1979 3 years ago 2
these "executives" are stuck on a remedial level of leadership asking "whats wrong, we wanna know why it didnt work." if you were really concerned about your business then YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT EVERY POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH UR ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE! thats ur responsibility, we all understand things go wrong, but u should be developing a FIX for the problems these "critics" are facing, not asking what they are!
macbookproaudio 3 years ago 2
I will say that WWDB will cost you about 2-5k a year to be "plugged in" and CORE. This is before you earn a sign Quixtar PV.
There is zero comp plan for the tens of millions the support orgs are pulling in from all the variations of tools they are taking you and your group for.
Quixtar may be upfront with their comp plan but they allow the support orgs to rob people blind and that is a problem.
honesttalk12 3 years ago
LMAO. I love the Doug DeVos comment about the fact that with Millions of people in the business, there are bound to be a "few" that didn't have a good experience.
Try a Few Million. There are maybe 100 or so people at the top that have the luxurious lifestyle they claim you can have.
Most of that money comes from profit they made off the millions of people at the bottom. Who bought books and tapes known as "Tools" for "Building" your business. Pretty clever marketing huh?
timberwolves100 3 years ago
Might I also point out that it's the quixtar
folks who make these claims. I've never seen Coke or some other company proudly mentioniong that they are partners with quixtar.
henrybird 3 years ago
actually you can get coke through the business.
i'm keen to learn more though, where did you find those stats about the average person earning $1400?
carlthemightyduke 3 years ago
Of course if you look at B&N and Circuit City's investor statements (all 60+ and 70+ pages respectively), there's not one mention of Quixtar, amway, or the like.
henrybird 3 years ago
The average Quixtar person makes $1,400.
henrybird 3 years ago
not true at all
burson007 3 years ago
At the end she uses the word partnership?? Define business partnership. If it means I will let you sell my stuff then yes. Amway has sold other company's products for decades (as well as some of their own). The problem is not the product but the selling of a dream that will only be realized by a few people while being presented as a near certainty for success for many.
Hayes611 3 years ago
It doesn't take a brain to have an opinion. YouTube gives us the freedom to express even bad ideas. Statues aren't raised to critics, they're raised to people of courage. And it doesn't take courage to type up something here.
jetta230 4 years ago
are you an example of what brave is??
ANVILL81 3 years ago
LOL @ those lists at the end. Quixtar is 3rd on that general merchandise list but why doesn't it highlite the amazing 4.4% categorie share compared to Amazon's 76.5%?
LOL! Because it's not even close
baddog7676 4 years ago
quixtar is the number affiliate with circuit city, they sponsor the fasted man in the world with the nutrilite line, number cosmetics with artistry, number 3 energy drink, its just a business ppl, its not a scam haha its pretty easy to pick out the ones who have no money and just dumb opinions
golfman14 3 years ago
Oh yeah, I have NO money what so ever, because I'm not affiliated with Quixtar. RIGHT!
It's actually pretty easy to pick out people who have no independent thought though, as they preach the SAME THING. You're only defense, to every FACTUAL statement against Quixtar/Amway, is "Oh look at our partner stores"
What is a "Fasted man" anyway?
baddog7676 3 years ago
thats your only defense huh, how is it a scam mr know it all and i meant to say fastest man
golfman14 3 years ago
I've posted on numerous blogs why it's a scam with factual statistics from QUIXTAR itself.
I don't need to explain anymore to a man who obviously doesn't even have a high school education. If you can't figure it out, that's too bad.
baddog7676 3 years ago
your just ignorant and you like to jump on the wagon of all these idiots who hate corporate america. the people who actually lose money with quixtar are the ones with no education. you have to be business oriented and rep the products well to succeed. say what you want about amway/quixtar they have great products, i agree back in the day it was kind of a cult but now there is better leadership and we dont try to throw it down your throat well atleast my organization doesnt.
golfman14 3 years ago
no education? i thought the big scam was the teaching system?? thats what siper is saying about anyone who is using a cd/book/association type system.
ANVILL81 3 years ago
I think it's a man who can't afford to buy food b/c he's spending all his money on rallies/books/tapes...LOL
WhatsAYak 3 years ago
That guy is a complete asshole. You're told you only have to work 10-15 hours a week when someone shows "the plan" but this asshole says people want something for nothing.
So your "recruiter" says it's easy, and then they turn around and say "you're not working hard enough" LOL!
Which one is it?
baddog7676 4 years ago 2
Just because its easy doesnt mean it takes no effort.... the business and its concepts are VERY SIMPLE... but they tell you when you start that you get out what you put in its not a get rich quick scheme you can make money fast but only if you bust hump to do it.
these people are not "recruiters" they become Family to you! So take your head out of your ass!!
kknjon 3 years ago
Difference between a j.o.b and Q* is that with a j.o.b you're GUARANTEED to MAKE money come pay day. With Q* you're NOT GUARANTEED to make ANYTHING and most IBO's LOSE money.
Q* says the average IBO income is just under $1,400 a year (that's an amazing $26.92 a week or, working your basic 10-15 hours, between $1.80 and $2.69 an hour)
but better yet, this is gross income, I wonder what the average IBO NET income is a year? After all, Net is much more important than gross
baddog7676 4 years ago
if you stopped coming to your job, im sure they fired you. If you stopped talking to your upline and taking their advice, im pretty sure your going to fail.
ibo4ibo 3 years ago
with all the work put into it, it becomes a j.o.b.
thirdjrh 4 years ago 2
They seem to forget Bo Short... you know, the guy who was making tons of money in the company who spoke out against them...
blaketv 4 years ago
lies
jzilla 4 years ago
Those guys are both snakes. And that chick's hair looks like she just took off a hat.
EnemyAce88 4 years ago
Yeah, no way anyone w/a triple-digit IQ could mistake this for a REAL newscast.
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
its in a downward spiral, no family calling th shots just lawyers and marketers changing the plan, making diamonds get accredited or no one get their bonus. great biz for the lawyers,
EARTHMOVER71 4 years ago
thisbiznow(dot)com
Mattyloom 4 years ago
TGAP you're so right
mechantboris13 4 years ago
You guys who criticize Quixtar and Amway have no idea what you are talking about. Basically just small words lashing out at something you don't understand. Quixtar is not a scam, and is no where even close to similar to the 70's scam you mentioned. Quixtar is partnered with over 100 other Fortune 500 companies, markets over 1 million products, and pays out over 2 Billion in bonus cheques yearly...how is that similar to a guy who mailed out a single sheet of paper? Not even close.
ZimAndreas 4 years ago
Diamond kingpins? Get your facts straight before saying more stupid things, guys. If you don't like Quixtar, that's fine, don't join. But don't run your mouth off without actually knowing what you are saying. I think that the Better Business Bureau, Esso, Microsoft, Dell, MasterCard and many other companies have more lawyers than you do, and have had their lawyers check Quixtar out before making a decision to joint venture with Quixtar.
ZimAndreas 4 years ago
You are so brainwashed, it 's remind me 2 years ago. I was a fanatic of Qxtr for 3 years. I forgive you. Wallmart sells Heinz product and it dont change my opinion of that company who underpays their employees. But Heinz have noproblems with that, it pays anyway. Stop putting your head in the sand.
mechantboris13 4 years ago
You guys are all drinking the Kool-Aid. There are only two parties making money off of this - the diamond kingpins (from the tool business) and Quixtar (Amway). There was a similar scam in the 70s with a guy offering to sell you his secret wealth scheme for $20. When it arrived, it was a single sheet of paper instructing the reader to advertise to sell a guaranteed scheme for $20, then send THEM a copy.
TGAPDad 4 years ago
if you think this business is the exact same thing it used to be in the 1970's then ur very very wrong...I feel sorry for you bro
Mattyloom 4 years ago
if it was it would be better, but its not and its going down, they screwd folks over when it went from amyway to quixtar, so count on it when the start calling it amway again.
EARTHMOVER71 4 years ago
Quixtar and many MLMs are great business. The problems steps in when people try to build by selling to everyone they know and this is hard since products cost more than average. Have a look at my video and you'll see why products in some of these companies are so high while others are more .... 'normal'.
Bigachiever 4 years ago
if quixtar was a scam don't u think ppl by now would realize that? don't u think quixtar would be out of business?
QUIXTAR is the fastest growing business model in the world...and i can prove that
Mattyloom 4 years ago
Right, because our government does such a great job of regulating corrupt enterprises.
evilbunnyrabbits 4 years ago
ok then do it moron.
mixmastamarshymc 4 years ago
You do realize that, back in the 1970s, Amway was officially named an illegal pyramid scheme, right?
Quixtar is Amway.
FreePlay 4 years ago
They don't believe that they are the same.They believe that Amway has become a supplier of Quixtar.Even though Quixtar is on record as saying that they feel changing the name back will lighten the negative publicity they have gotten.Shee-ple I say, they are all just shee-ple!!!
iosonoiosoloio 4 years ago
Thisisknown2btrue only about 10 percent make 6 figure incomes....which is pretty good...this business is not easy because of the fact u have to be a salesman.
Mattyloom 4 years ago
TGPA...how is it a scam when my mentor who is 21 years old is turning platinum in 4 months? he started from the bottom and is moving up!! that goes to show that not all the big boys at the top make all the money...and yes im 19, very young, and im tearing this business up
Mattyloom 4 years ago
go ahead with your bad self
kknjon 3 years ago
Mattyloom, listen, you're not going to succeed in Quixtar till you get a percentage of the promo business, and that won't happen. How many succeed in Quixtar? Only the "kings" at the top. Watch the Dateline expose, which should be renamed, "To Catch A Quixtar Predator" (you're only a Predator if you work the business when knowing of "the lie", and now you know).
ThisIKnow2bTrue 4 years ago
get your head out of your ass!!! do you believe everything thats on tv?? if so your the gullible one.
kknjon 3 years ago
This video is clearly propaganda. No one other than Amway/Quixtar) makes money in this scam. IBOs are not really businesses at all. A real business pays YOU to sell their products; you don't pay money to set up as a business. Without the tools it's a classic pyramid scheme; with them it's extortion. The tools supplied by the diamond distributors (Yager et al) are the REAL expense. Please read Eric Scheibeler's "Merchants of Deception" (downloadable for free) for a personal account of this scam.
TGAPDad 4 years ago
TGAPDad THIS IS NOT A SCAM!!!! and they do pay YOU to sell their products.....are u that braindead and misinformed?
Mattyloom 4 years ago
From your comment I guess you're either 1) IBO (victim) or 2) Quixtar PR hack. Your use of language implies youth. If you are #1, I encourage you to read Scheibeler's book (Merchants of Deception). If you see yourself in it, then you're not alone; leave while your losses are small. If you are #2, then have you no shame? Come clean and own up to your allegiance. Scams can be legal or illegal. Chiropractors, psychics and Quixtar are legal, but scams just the same.
TGAPDad 4 years ago
quixtar is not a scam and neither are chiropractors
kknjon 3 years ago
People really don't understand business at all. I've been a business owner for awhile now and when I saw this business it just made sense to me. If you understand how franchising works then it makes sense. I guess I got in with the right business team.
TheTruthWCO 4 years ago
I'm a business owner in VA, and there's no way that makes sense. The contract says that each "IBO" makes 1,400 a year, just so they can cover their asses.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Keep living your life on youtube. Trying to prove it's a scam after the FTC proved it wasn't already. I feel sorry for all those who are so narrow minded.
foreal1277 4 years ago
In reality it's a scam, but legally and paper wise it's not, because the tell you the income that you'll make in the contract. And it's not millions of dollars, it's about.. 1,400.. That won't even cover my personal property tax. The IRS Auditor working hard and busting his butt only made 32,000, He was brainwashed, He shot his freaking clock..Now he's without a home, car, and money. Oh god, it's primerica all over again.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Your reading the contract wrong. It's says the average IBO makes an extra 1,400 a year. Now according to the FTC here's whats considered as an average IBO. An active average IBO is someone who attends a meeting once a year. You attempt to make a sale and last but not least you talk about the business to someone. LMAO! So when your taking an average. You have to include these so called active IBO's. But an extra 1,400 a year is not bad for little amount of work.
foreal1277 4 years ago
Well I don't this IRS Auditor either and if he did quit his job making only 32,000 a year then that's stupid. He's obviously didn't counsel about that decision. Our business team would have never told him to do that. Who is this so called guy by the way? I could never find the I know someone, that knows someone, that knows someone who lost his shirt.
foreal1277 4 years ago
Both of these guys are eerily similar to Used Car Salesman. Watch again....you want that car for How much? No freebies here. I can put you in that 88 Nissan for $78,000. How can I be a crook if I associate w/ Nissan?
shwantz1 4 years ago
OOOHH THIS IS JUST TOO GOOD! My Quixtar zombie brother just asked me for a JOB! Man he has been in the business for 5 years, and still nada.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
You could hire him on the condition that he quit the business, or failing that, get him to admit how much he lost in Quixtar despite his time/effort...I'm sure it'll be a priceless moment! LOL
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
Hard work and how much effort you put in??? But I thought we would only be working 10 to 15 hours a week..Not 80 hours in 3 days! I bet not one of you zombies can tell us how good you are doing in the real world.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
That's impossible...they don't live in the real world! :-D
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
I'll try and winch it out of him, I've hired him before and let him go, because he kept on selling "the dream" to my customers instead of auto parts.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Best of luck...perhaps you could make "no Quixtar sales pitches" a condition of his employment and maybe even pass out "Quixtar Sucks" buttons for your customers to wear, in case he has a slip-up...LOL
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
I would love that, My heart would flutter with delight! He's such an asshole! I just don't know how a drug doing, cheating loser, becomes a prayer boy? He didn't even drink at his own wedding. Orange juice for the toast!
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Maybe he's one of those AmQuix Christians, who tout a prosperity gospel, but don't show it having much effect on their lives in general...LOL
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
Yes he is, Lying all the time, adultery, not honoring his mother and father, Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Haha, he's no saint. It makes me sick to even hear his robotic voice and movements. I'm thinking of making a spoof of quixtar, it'll be great.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Now I don't know this guy your talking about. But him & maybe his business team are miss representing our company. I can say this if you saw the business from our team and what we do. You would see something totally different from what you saw. This business is all about having good coaches. If you have bad coach then your not going to be taught properly. I'm sure you know some people in your line of work that aren't as good of a worker as you are. It's the same thing.
foreal1277 4 years ago
So your saying it's not okay to change and make yourself become a better person. So he should continue to cheat and do drugs. Yeah that's very encouraging. lol
foreal1277 4 years ago
Yeah, well I was talking about him cheating and doing drugs and all of the sudden he's god's right hand man? All more power for him stopping, but since they sprinkle enough bible into the scam he's brainwashed.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Successful radio show, where in North Dakota! lol
TheTruthWCO 4 years ago
Try the #18 radio market in the country...if you do a little research, you can figure out where that is.
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
I have respect for people, so I don't nag them like you zombies do. You don't have many repeat customers because you all don't treat them right, About 99% of the time, I have repeat customers. Wow all of you zombies sound the freaking same...those tapes must be everywhere! This is a job for Batman!
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
What state is your radio show and how successful is it? Are you up there with Mike & the Mad dog or Howard Stern. We all know the talk show host makes the show not the producer. Keep pulling in those ratings for your boss. Because if you don't your gone.
Outsidethebox that was very funny.
foreal1277 4 years ago
Outsidethebox that was a good one! LAMO!
llgoumba 4 years ago
Now that's funny Outside! 4cheeks keeps talking about the one person and herself who have failed in Quixtar. People if your working for a new company are you going to the most successful employee there to find out about the company or are you going to the guy who just got canned? Don't make me have to answer that for you. LOL
TheTruthWCO 4 years ago
Failed in quixtar? The people who are working for quixtar, YES WORKING, NOT BEING THEIR OWN BOSS, are the ones failing. Sure you'll be having dreams of the luxurious life, but in the real world, I'm the one living it.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Once again Whatsayak is trying to be funny. AmQuix Drones that's very creative. You guy and 4cheeks here are employee drones. Yes boss, whatever you say boss, do you need another cup coffee boss, of course I'll work the weekend boss, I'll take a pay cut boss. LOL
Outsidethebox12 4 years ago
Employee drones, my ass...I produce a successful radio morning show for my market area, as well as hosting one on weekends. Of course, you AmQuix drones will never hear my work b/c you're too busy listening to your motivational tapes nonstop and trying to think of new ways to pitch the company w/out mentioning its name. Call me when you go Diamond, LOL.
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
haha, That's so true!
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Oh, and I don't kiss ass in my business...I kick it.
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
Yeah, whatever...as opposed to "The tools are optional, but so is success...just skip your next CC payment if it won't leave you w/enough to attend the next function...I'm sorry I couldn't attend Mom's funeral, had to show a plan...Don't wanna join the business, then don't talk to me again even though we've known each other for years"? Yeah, being an AmQuix drone's much better...
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
Hahaha, I have more stress than you. All you do is bother people in stores and at their homes with stuff full of junk. XS sucks! I would have to drink the whole shipment for some energy. Plus, I don't answer to anyone, they answer to me. You are a minion, Sure I'll go to my cult like event and praise a mere mortal, and not realize he is ripping us all off! Sure that's what I'll do.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
I wish I could show him all of this information. He's like a robot...it's scary, but I haven't found the mute or power button yet. I know their baby is going to come out talking just like Daddy!
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Check this video Quixtar & Microsoft
jtledge96 4 years ago
this is a pyramid scheme, right? for someone to make $100,000 NET (profit) - how much product GROSS has to be sold?
Andybaby 4 years ago
LOL! Doug Devos is a fucking idiot. "Out of that population, it's only natural for a FEW to have a bad experience" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a fucking dipshit! It's more like the opposite, only a few have a good experience in the millions of people that tried that scam
baddog7676 4 years ago
your just mad cause he has more money than you
kknjon 3 years ago
That's your response to something I posted over 3 months ago? You must've just joined the "almighty" Q*.
Good luck. And yes, I'm sure he has more money than me. So do professional athletes, movie stars, music artists, and I don't say anything negative about them.
By the way when using the word "your" use it correctly. The word is "YOU'RE" as in "You are".
But then again, nobody has ever claimed IBO's to be educated
baddog7676 3 years ago
Rob is a mother fucker, LMAO ass hole !!
radzroka 4 years ago
this is fucking shit, I was amway member as well, couldn't make even one, only good for those who are in higher positions they make money everyday. Its almost half a century old business, recorded casset players talk abt Ronald Reagan who's already dead by now, and its rule is same shit. I wouldn't say it ruined my life. I have a story who was in SP(silver), year ago I heard he left amway and has joined another networking business, whats a big deal??
radzroka 4 years ago
My father was involved in an identical MLM scam and when you see a father sell his legit business and put in 80 hrs a week/ attend all the functions only to see the home he raised his family in to be foreclosed upon. You're right... 100% AMERICAN DREAM. Keep this sh** away from good hearted people.
fswpro 4 years ago
Yeah many people walk into mlm's like this and matrix programs, gifting programs at a point of desperation.
They do everything they are taught hoping for and holding out on paying a bill or two here then utilities, phone disconnected. mortgage & other loans defaulted on. surely the bulk of these people lease BMWs or buy them on the wholesale market just to look the part.
scamalert101 4 years ago
aww I'm so sorry to hear that, my brother in law sold his house and is still in the quixtar scam, he just lied and told us that he didn't like to cut the lawn so he sold the house.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Yeah...surely if he was making money, he could just hire someone to cut the grass if he hated it so much. But hey, no one said these AmQuix drones were the sharpest crayons in the box...LOL
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
Trsut me he's not...him and his wife showed up looking like crayons wearing orange matching quixtar shirts on father's day. They had it sewn. SO funny! I always hear lies. Once they saw me in Target and flew into an aisle. Once they saw me on the road they drove faster, I don't think they want "negativity" around them. Just because I tried to join and it didn't work out...like 99% percent of the time it doesn't work out.
fourcheeks4 4 years ago
Maybe you could get that A&E show Intervention to do an ep on him...I don't think they've ever done one on MLM deprogramming before, could start a trend! LOL
WhatsAYak 4 years ago
brainwash! the "diamonds" and all other high ranked jewels make their money from selling "motivational" material and selling convention tickets. this is crap, and for those of you who say that i am a "quitter," im not easy to brainwash, therefore i never got started in this garbage. freedom my ass, your bound to these meetings, seminars, and conventions. these people are worse than evangelists.
kendoqv2k 4 years ago
Mistakes, like setting up dummy companies and stealing money from the Canadian Government. Little things. Like sexual assault by it's leaders.(Yager) Hypocracy about being faithful to your wife.(Britt) Intolerance of onyone outside the business.(Everyone)
VoltairesGift 4 years ago
Not to mention racism (Gooch), expressing a desire to assasinate a Democratic politician (Childress) and drug possession (Fredericks, as mentioned in the Dateline investigation).
WhatsAYak 4 years ago