Su30mki can even fire Bharmos (only supersonic cruise missile) 3 to 4 times faster than tomahawk and can carry nuke warhead. and coz of its Radar 250-300 km detection range it can also act as a mini AWACS + TVC control in case of Close Dogfights
and Economically f22 is CRAP 40K USA per hour flight. and systems failures on every hour and 2. this prove how useless is f22 which cant even perform a single successful mission.
half of the fleet is grounded because of series of accidents. so we spent 350 mill a piece on this CRAP ? if anybody still likes f22 than i am not here to waste my time with a f22 FANBOY moron -.-"
@giopa79 yes typohoon is really good fighter like rafale both proved how good are they over libya...10 hours long mission. even French rafale carried out strike mission without "SEAD" Suppression Of Enemy Air Defence mission. there SPECTRA system is awsm addition on rafale.
On other hand Su30mki is one of most agile Bird with excellent Thrust to weight ratio, Hybrid avionics (Indians, Russian,s French , Isrealy) makes it a top class killer and even ability to fire 450km AWACS killer missile
F22 is stealth as long as it carries weapons internally. if it carries weapons on its wings it'll lose its stealth! (even if it opens its weapons ways to fire missile) if not lucky.... radar will track its loc! f22 will get ass kicked.
remember countries using multi-layer defence + AWACS cover
why stealth is not enuff ? *a good proof is 1999 f117 got shot* now sams are way more advanced with image + IR sensors + TVC...once it fires evading them is impossible
remember 80% air battles are (Dogfights) In Visual Range...rest 20% fought on Beyond Visual Range (BVR).
Flankers and Mig's (29) design are best when it comes to dogfights! not even stealth can save f22 arse! (NO bird is complete stealth) any radar can detect f22 or b2 etc etc..just a matter of time,speed, and distance. once its locked your boom!
@bionicgreek You fuckin faggot, India is the greatest country in the world, U shit greek people have always been in ruins and will remain. Just a piece of advise only talk when you have proper knowledge or else shut the F up. India, Russia and Israel will screw ur shithole country greece in a jiffy!!
@chanelpnq India is the greatest country in the world, --> yeah right. With the worse democracy in the world, it cannot be the greatest country in the world. The minorities don't get justice. from the muslims to the Sikhs, thousands have died in the hands of the congress. It has one of the most corrupt police and government. it is a joke, you call India the greatest country. Sweden, Swiss maybe, but never never India. India would have been better off in the hands of the british.
@chanelpnq I toured through parts of India 3 years ago. what a joke. I had 8 days to spend there, and I left after being there in less than 48 hours. People shit everywhere, garbage piled up sky high, and a stench that could melt the moon. So, if you call that great, I can imagine what you live like......
@JFDhater Listen Canadian bobo .. when your forefathers were learning how to wipe potty from your arse, India was at the pinnacle of civilization. Years of colonial and muslim regime has resulted in its present plight. You have the luxury of putting up this comment at the wrong time in history. I would like to turn the clock back a few centuries when your stupid "aboot" speaking forefather did not even cook meat before eating !
@JFDhater you shit ass. We are getting our house in order and you people are just nuts and begging for India's help for solving your resource problems.
@kbalajie1 India's help for resources? bahahahahaha. the only resource they provide us is more idiots on the highways. everytime you turn around, you see 50 more ragheads learning to drive a truck or taxi and usually ending wheels up in the ditch. lmao. The worse part is, they are so proud, the still smile, after putting their lives and the lives of others at stake, everytime they get behind the wheel.
@JFDhater Check your history there will be a beginning date for your civilization. Try to find the exact date of civilization of India then talk to me. I am afraid you cannot. As the civilization of India is far behind your dumb brain.
I second that. Your comment is half true. HAL replaced most of the avionics with either Indian or Israeli but the N101M Bars radar was never replaced.
At least the Indians are able to put combat jets in the air, isn't it? What about Greece? Has someone bailed you guys yet? Perhaps a big yard sale at Vassilikos Kipos may do Greeks some good and help save Greece (should we say museum) from collapsing further.
@bionicgreek : Who are you kidding?! The greek air force carries bulk of American and French combat jets that were bought over a decade ago. These jets are old and your country is broke. As I said, put them on yard sale and someone may save your sorry ass so that you can continue contributing filthy comments on youtube.
@NPegasus u bastard wat da f**** do u knw abt INDIAN AIR FORCE haaa........dis is CADET WARRANT OFFICER n mark my words dat our 1 IAF OFFICER in an aircraft can get down all ur piece of junk's in 1 single hr...u get dat...
@srinivas1408@srinivas1408: Do you know how to read before writing comments? My remarks were in response to Greek air power - to be more specific, its weaponry.
@NPegasus go f**K ur brother.....gay country....tiny little piece of s**t..begging fr money....d money u faggots got frm IMA also Has INDIAN share....we hv 2.9% share...which is soon goin 2 b 3.4%...4th highest.....
@bionicgreek bionic greek u r a gay , do u know indian airforce is on 2 nd number in the world , greek is a fuking gay country ALL ARE HOMOSEXUAL!! so befroe writing a comment search on google that what u r writing ok u fuck face ?
if we consider the case of su 30...they are the plane which can easily work in jamming environment also While the first pilot flies the aircraft, controls weapons and performs manoeuvring dogfight, the co-pilot employs BVR air-to-air and air-to-ground guided weapons in long-range engagements, monitors tactical environment to ensure situational awareness, and performs command-and-control tasks in group missions.
no chappy you don't know what you are talking about. IAF sukhois are the most advanced sukhoi of all, it has the very latest avionics from france, russia and India.
@ify1979have you gone crazy dude....this is one of the most advance fighter jet present... it is the only jet which has very powerful radar system i hope you remembered that ysr reddy who died in plane mishap it was cos of sukhoi only debris of his plane were found....
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the new indian SU jet fighter, the only thing new on this jet is the shape and the avionics on the jet are the same, from the old soviet union era there's really nothing new about this jet..
i really dont get your point. you are being a total idiotic hypocrite by condemning how indians/pakis argue about who is better, then you come on here and blow your own trumpet about how sweden is better.
and as for most developed, etc etc, learn to spell EXPECTANCY
I ♥ this Fighter Probably the most feared War plane in the world it has an anti stealth Passive radar & soon its gona get even Better one, So its a Total kick ass War plane.
@JFDhater even f22 fleet is grounded coz of many problems! Su30mki outclass every fighter! even air superiority f22. you guys do some more research before tagging f22 as a king (prolly watching to much TV)
@Devilion901 and you get your facts right.....I DIDN'T STATE THE F-22 WAS KING. where oh where did I say that? no place. learn to read before you open your yap.
@JFDhater yea i know...even how EA 18 jammed F22 radar and won on exercise ??....this proves how BS f22 is. when you can put more powerful avionics systems on a much cheaper and trusted platform like F18.
FYI USA is struggling to put such systems in f22. but they are failed so far coz of its design and not compatible existing systems. there are planned upgrades for f22 which will cost atleast 100mill per bird. but doesn't include advance jamming capabilities.
@generalcrusher this one is even more .. just the hardware is sukhois .. the avionics etc.. comes from India and europe I believe, tailor made for India and a generation above the other su30s :))
u r right easy for radar lock and it must be radiating massive amount of heat, not good featurs in long rage combat, but it must be a kick ass plane in close combat
Mr nuk3m3vil, get some education before claiming that this is not good for long range combat. SU-30MKI(SU-35/37) is second only after the F-22 in long range combat and the BEST 4++ generation aircraft.
R77 operational range is 80 kms but AIM120 C5 operational range is only 65kms, but AIM 120 D range is 95kms. Indian air force still got the edge. Looks like shiv1971 is suffering from porki syndrome and he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india.
"Looks like shiv1971 is suffering from porki syndrome and he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india. ">> Listen, you lying loudmouth cum idiot - I support the IAF. You can't even tell...That is WHY I am emphasizing the need for longer-range weapons on the MKI... As a FYI - the C5 is marketed as the AIM-120D, there is also a C7 version, a planned C8 version, etc. The C5 range is officially secret, but it has hit targets beyond a 100 KM, so a 120 KM kinetic seems right.
R77 operational range is 80 kms but AIM120 C5 operational range is only 65kms but AIM 120 D range is 95kms.>>
C5 is marketed as the "D". Apparently there are multiple D versions (as there were C versions) - and the range of the C7 is said to be 160 KM, the planned C8 is claimed to be uround 185 KM. The C5 has hit targets beyond a 100 KM using lofted trajectory methods.
The C8 version, and I mentioned that earlier...there are multiple D versions, like there were multiple C versions. The C5 is also marketed as D, and is more likley relegated to export customers with its much shorter range as the C7/C8 versions come into play.
he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india. >>
Prove it, sonny! Where have I pulled down India? And where am I "bullshitting"?
The fact is, you know jack - the C5 is the latest AAM placed on the Typhoon (the Meteor is still in development), and only recently tested on it to prove its superlative range.
AIM 120D like the Vympel (R 77) AMRAAM has a range between 55 miles to 110 miles assuming a stationary non manouvering target at a certain altitude. For non stationary manouvering targets at low altitudes, the range for both drops by nearly 75%. Depending on other characteristics of the firing aircraft (such as speed), a further drop can be expected getting the effective range down to about 15-18 miles for AIM 120D and R77-M1
It is like saying R77 (100 km) and R77m (160km)are the same. Pakistanis just have AIM 120-C5 BVR missiles, and its range is less than AIM 120 D. >>
The R-77M does NOT have a range of 160 KM, it is the R-77M1. The M is a wide-body version of the baseline rocket with slightly more range, the M1 is a ramjet powered variant. The C5 is marketed as the D, and uses loft trajectory to achieve a boosted range over the baseline R-77s.
Lets say around 100km. Maximum effective range would be around 80 to 100kms for both missiles. >>
The kinetic range of the R-77 is 90 KM, and perhaps 100 KM for the wide body M (not M1) version (which I don't think is produced). The hit range is much less, closer to 70 KM. The AIM-120D is capable of hitting targets at closer to a 100 KM. Its kinetic range is perhaps closer to 120 KM.
what about r-77m >>The M is a wide-body version that weighs a bit more, I don't think it ever went into production. But it's range is likely closer to 100 KM (kinetic), versus perhaps 90 KM of the base R-77 (high-altitude straight shot, kinetic). The R-77M1 is the really interesting product with a range of ~160 KM or more (kinetic) and a fiber optic gyro INS. But the missile seems to be in development forever, there were tests done in around 2002/2003, but no hardware yet...
I'm not being mean but SUKOIS SUCK HOORIBLY...THE F-15 AND F-16ETC. CAN BEAT THOSE!!!! >>
You are actually being UNINFORMED...the IAF trialed the MKI versus RSAF (Singapore AF) F-16Cs, and won about 70% of the time. Kapisch? And only the F-15F/T has a slight BVR edge due to better radar, which something like the IRBIS can largely blunt.
Shiv,I dont mean to be mean either, but looks like you really dont know much about 4+ generation fighters, to compare their abilities is even more foolish, as all of them are very able fighters, perhaps the greatest difference would be, in the men behind these machines and some good luck and i dont see Indian pilots lacking in that arena.
"I dont mean to be mean either, but looks like you really dont know much about 4+ generation fighters, to compare their abilities is even more foolish, as all of them are very able fighters">>>> Don't start off with "looks like you know jack...", give a specific point of rebuttal or this is useless. Yes, all fighters are capable in these competitive times, and yes, the fighter pilot matters a lot....but there are valid differences between jets. There is better and worse, based on parameters.
Now with the interview of the general North American Hul Homburg, the publication "USA Today" where reports on the incredible achievements of the Air Force in India registered against American planes F-15C / D Eagle. The Indian pilotavam the multifunctional fighter Russian Su-30MK and won 90 percent of the fighting air. The Su-30MK Indians were delivered from 1997, the latest and most advanced Su-30MKI not participated in exercises with the American air force.
"The Indian pilotavam the multifunctional fighter Russian Su-30MK and won 90 percent of the fighting air. ">>The fighting was in the sub-40 KM range to simulate the PAF Sparrows, so the IAF would have an "edge" as this is its common practice range. In true BVR fights with AWACS (like the way the USAF trains) the game would have been a bit different.
SU 30mki rocks! There is nothing in PAF to match it. Even the F16's Bush has sold to Musharraf opps I mean Busharraf are not able to match the Su 30mki. Even Pakistan's OIC crony friend Malaysia decided to buy SU30mkm instead of F16 or F18!Lol the Indians are going to train the Malay pilots! Pakistan kaput sums it up!
True, Pak is supposed to be getting F-60 Blk52. It really can't even beat Mig-29SMTs. With US seeing its economy going down the drain I wander what's going to be funding their future Military RnD.
USA economy going the drain? the USA alway goes through a recesion every 15 years. USA economy is over U$13 Trillion! INdia's economy is U$800 Billion! meanwhile India has 3.5 x more people! our military only gets 3% of our gdp! INdia spends more of thier economy in the military while most India people are in extreme poverty
Wow, thanks for the advice. We NEED to have our defenses up. Your ally- Pakistan houses terrorists and has attacked us a number of times unprovoked. Are you saying that we should NOT fund our military and be invaded?
never wrote that, just enlightened you to some important facts about the USA's economy. Every country needs to protect themselves if possible, we in the USA don't consider India as en enemy but a democratic ally. With Pakistan we must have them close or else they will get too close to China and cause problems in the region.......
USA economy is over U$13 Trillion! INdia's economy is U$800 Billion! meanwhile India has 3.5 x more people! our military only gets 3% of our gdp! INdia spends more of thier economy in the military while most India people are in extreme poverty >>
The Indian economy is over $1 trillion, we spend less on defense in % terms (closer to 2.5%) than the US, and the # of people in extreme poverty is less than 27% (not the majority as you say).
India spends $0.17 per $10 of it's GDP on the Military
Our GDP is at 3 trillion currently>> Not sure what you intend to say here. The economy is $1 trllion, you are using a PPP valuation which was not needed for the situation. Our defense spending is closer to 2.5%. And, IMO, that is low...
"Pak is supposed to be getting F-60 Blk52. It really can't even beat Mig-29SMTs. ">>
Of course it can. The AIM-120D has rather more weapon range and capability. You would need to wait for the new gen R-77s to equalize. Moreover, the Viper is better as a multirole jet with more payload and capability.
for that we are getting teh MiG-35.. the Zhuk AE radars are the only 5th generation radars capable of detecting stealth and is the only one to match the Raptor's radar.
the Zhuk AE radars are the only 5th generation radars capable of detecting stealth and is the only one to match the Raptor's radar. >>
That is wrong! It is the least advanced AESA radar with a smaller range, limited engagement capability, and bulkier tiles. It is less capable than upcoming Israeli & European designs, though fairly sophisticated as a radar. It is outclassed by the APG-77. The MiG-35 is primarily excellent for close-in fighting (WVR), and average in other regimes.
shiv1971- Yes there is AIM-120D BVRs are out there, but it does not mean that pakistan has a bunch of them. Even pakistan defence forum says that it is only AIM-120 C5 and R77BVRs have the same range. Lets say around 100km. Maximum effective range would be around 80 to 100kms for both missiles.
Yes there is AIM-120D BVRs are out there, but it does not mean that pakistan has a bunch of them. Even pakistan defence forum says that it is only AIM-120 C5 and R77BVRs have the same range. >> Today Pakistan is backward...tomorrow this will change radically with new jets and AEW planes. The C5 is the AIM-120D, and it is better than the R-77 by more than a few KM. It also uses a "top down" view via loft trajectory, means the target imprint is much larger and less tricky.
dude,, the eurofighter is the same as Su-30 MKI in every aspect.. the looks might be different but even the West admits that Russian fighters ar ethe most maneuverable on earth with more speed than any of its Western Counterpart.
the eurofighter is the same as Su-30 MKI in every aspect.. the looks might be different but even the West admits that Russian fighters ar ethe most maneuverable on earth with more speed than any of its Western Counterpart. >> The Russian jets are better at SUBSONIC regimes, the EF and Raptor are ahead in supersonic regimes, and also use supercruise for good missile range. In close quarters anyone can win, but in BVR (which is an IFFY shot)the Western jets are more sophisticated.
the Su-30MKI incorporates those "western" traits in itself, thankx to our Israeli allies and also our own emerging technologicla advancement. Maybe the original Su-30 k was not good enough... but the MKI is only second to the raptor in the world.
the Su-30MKI incorporates those "western" traits in itself.. but the MKI is only second to the raptor in the world.>> That is simplistic. The MKI is outrivalled by the Raptor, and also disadvantaged in some regimes by the EF and Rafale- both of which are much stealthier and offer greater _supersonic agility and avionics sophistication. The MKI's avionics are quite good, but it needs a new generation of A2A weapons with longer range as new missiles emerge.
once the lca comes along in 2010 we will no longer have to rely on the ruskies but still the su-30mki is awesome and is arguably the best air superiority platform in the world with the exception of the f-22 raptor and it even has capability to carry 4 more missiles than f-22
Its not the plane so much as the pilot. The Su30MKI in the right hands is a lethal platform. Keep customizing and Indian fighters will have a better edge.
without the stealth technology of raptor.. a one on one dogfight ... the raptor wud be blasted in a matter of seconds. The only thing that makes raptor superior is its stealth.. nothing else
The only thing that makes raptor superior is its stealth.. nothing else >> Not true. The Raptor has a huge supercruise edge for more launch energy and good endurance, and also has better supersonic agility. It's "data fusion" and radar is also at another level. But the prime weapon is stealth and avionics.
Erm what you said is not true. Its china and russia who is getting along. The US has been yelling that russia is a threat recently as well as china. And russia only takes india as business buddy not allies. India has 70% of russia planes, tanks and etc.. Am i right??
Russia is also helping us in the construction of many Nuclear Power plants. They have also readily made available a lot of military technology in times of need. Putin has on many occasions remarked as how he is pleased with Indian Sovereign policy of not letting other countries affect their decisions.
Recently i had been to see tha akash ganga which means the milky way it was a air show in which the su 30 was making 360 degree turns!!
SuperSatyasri 3 weeks ago
Su30mki can even fire Bharmos (only supersonic cruise missile) 3 to 4 times faster than tomahawk and can carry nuke warhead. and coz of its Radar 250-300 km detection range it can also act as a mini AWACS + TVC control in case of Close Dogfights
Devilion901 6 months ago
and Economically f22 is CRAP 40K USA per hour flight. and systems failures on every hour and 2. this prove how useless is f22 which cant even perform a single successful mission.
half of the fleet is grounded because of series of accidents. so we spent 350 mill a piece on this CRAP ? if anybody still likes f22 than i am not here to waste my time with a f22 FANBOY moron -.-"
Devilion901 6 months ago
typhoon and f22 number one in the world!!
giopa79 6 months ago
@giopa79 yes typohoon is really good fighter like rafale both proved how good are they over libya...10 hours long mission. even French rafale carried out strike mission without "SEAD" Suppression Of Enemy Air Defence mission. there SPECTRA system is awsm addition on rafale.
On other hand Su30mki is one of most agile Bird with excellent Thrust to weight ratio, Hybrid avionics (Indians, Russian,s French , Isrealy) makes it a top class killer and even ability to fire 450km AWACS killer missile
Devilion901 6 months ago
F22 is stealth as long as it carries weapons internally. if it carries weapons on its wings it'll lose its stealth! (even if it opens its weapons ways to fire missile) if not lucky.... radar will track its loc! f22 will get ass kicked.
remember countries using multi-layer defence + AWACS cover
why stealth is not enuff ? *a good proof is 1999 f117 got shot* now sams are way more advanced with image + IR sensors + TVC...once it fires evading them is impossible
Devilion901 7 months ago
@Devilion901 u r wrong.
1.todays technology is advance and there is many ways to make an airplane stealth.
2.fun fact:HAVE YOU HEARD OF RADAR JAMMING DEVICES?
3.stop criticizing f22 and americans.
4its over,soviet russia FELL,communism is over for russia,it was done in 1991.
5.1999?why are you talkin about?that was 10 years ago,you actually think its still 1999? lol
1123359 6 months ago
remember 80% air battles are (Dogfights) In Visual Range...rest 20% fought on Beyond Visual Range (BVR).
Flankers and Mig's (29) design are best when it comes to dogfights! not even stealth can save f22 arse! (NO bird is complete stealth) any radar can detect f22 or b2 etc etc..just a matter of time,speed, and distance. once its locked your boom!
configure based on DIED2 calculations
Devilion901 7 months ago
Su-30 is one of the best air fighter ,bomber in the world !! Algeria got 24 new ones from Russia in 2010/2011 ! Moroccans should shit their pants !
brithunter1 7 months ago
EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST! LONG LIVE INDIA!!!
tysondiki 7 months ago
@bionicgreek You fuckin faggot, India is the greatest country in the world, U shit greek people have always been in ruins and will remain. Just a piece of advise only talk when you have proper knowledge or else shut the F up. India, Russia and Israel will screw ur shithole country greece in a jiffy!!
chanelpnq 1 year ago
@chanelpnq India is the greatest country in the world, --> yeah right. With the worse democracy in the world, it cannot be the greatest country in the world. The minorities don't get justice. from the muslims to the Sikhs, thousands have died in the hands of the congress. It has one of the most corrupt police and government. it is a joke, you call India the greatest country. Sweden, Swiss maybe, but never never India. India would have been better off in the hands of the british.
ssgill 1 year ago
@ssgill Agreed btw no country is the best and no one cares if anyone says it.Every country has problems and no one needs to know .
1bearcatf8f 1 year ago
@chanelpnq bro he is not from greek he is a porkistani greek mask fitted
123456787654321ize 1 year ago
@chanelpnq I toured through parts of India 3 years ago. what a joke. I had 8 days to spend there, and I left after being there in less than 48 hours. People shit everywhere, garbage piled up sky high, and a stench that could melt the moon. So, if you call that great, I can imagine what you live like......
JFDhater 1 year ago
@JFDhater Listen Canadian bobo .. when your forefathers were learning how to wipe potty from your arse, India was at the pinnacle of civilization. Years of colonial and muslim regime has resulted in its present plight. You have the luxury of putting up this comment at the wrong time in history. I would like to turn the clock back a few centuries when your stupid "aboot" speaking forefather did not even cook meat before eating !
namastehindu 1 year ago
@JFDhater YOU BLOODY PEOPLE CAN TALK AND JUST BE FUCKED BY YOUR DAD US....WE ARE HAPPY WITH US...NOT REQUIRED YOU DOGS...........
ABHISHEKTYAGI0201 10 months ago
@JFDhater you shit ass. We are getting our house in order and you people are just nuts and begging for India's help for solving your resource problems.
kbalajie1 9 months ago
@kbalajie1 India's help for resources? bahahahahaha. the only resource they provide us is more idiots on the highways. everytime you turn around, you see 50 more ragheads learning to drive a truck or taxi and usually ending wheels up in the ditch. lmao. The worse part is, they are so proud, the still smile, after putting their lives and the lives of others at stake, everytime they get behind the wheel.
JFDhater 9 months ago
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kbalajie1 9 months ago
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@JFDhater Check your history there will be a beginning date for your civilization. Try to find the exact date of civilization of India then talk to me. I am afraid you cannot. As the civilization of India is far behind your dumb brain.
kbalajie1 9 months ago
@JFDhater
I like Canadians, but I don't like you.
HDaviator 8 months ago
@HDaviator does it look like I give a shit??
JFDhater 7 months ago
nice
yokesh0 1 year ago
SU-30MKI is made under LICENSE by HINDUSTAN-AERONUTICALS-LIMITED , USING IT'S OWN RADAR , AND AVIONICS
rohitkumarindia 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia
I second that. Your comment is half true. HAL replaced most of the avionics with either Indian or Israeli but the N101M Bars radar was never replaced.
ameyzhere 1 year ago
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abhi9971 1 year ago
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gauravzerogravity 1 year ago
the Indian Su-30MKI and Malaysian Su-30MKM are the only 4++ generation fighter aircraft that can kick F-22's ass lol.
itom95 1 year ago
sukhoi mk1 has thrust vectoring and israeli and french avionics it is 4.5 gen fighter better then f16
Shivajisena 1 year ago
many new sukhoi 30mki are built by india n around 130 ar ein service
sukhoi 30 is best aircraft after sukhoi 35
f-35 and f-22
pppranayy 1 year ago
dirty mutherfuker indian slumdogs flying old soviet machinery.
bionicgreek 1 year ago
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@bionicgreek
dirty mutherfuker porkistani slumdogs flying old afghani stolen machinery.
allah katbullah (may hot piss be upon him) the biggest incestuous pedophile bastard
ranviros 1 year ago
At least the Indians are able to put combat jets in the air, isn't it? What about Greece? Has someone bailed you guys yet? Perhaps a big yard sale at Vassilikos Kipos may do Greeks some good and help save Greece (should we say museum) from collapsing further.
NPegasus 1 year ago 2
u sir are a real fuckface slumdog indians.
we have latest planes not old fucked up soviet machinery like yours
bionicgreek 1 year ago
@bionicgreek : Who are you kidding?! The greek air force carries bulk of American and French combat jets that were bought over a decade ago. These jets are old and your country is broke. As I said, put them on yard sale and someone may save your sorry ass so that you can continue contributing filthy comments on youtube.
NPegasus 1 year ago
@NPegasus u bastard wat da f**** do u knw abt INDIAN AIR FORCE haaa........dis is CADET WARRANT OFFICER n mark my words dat our 1 IAF OFFICER in an aircraft can get down all ur piece of junk's in 1 single hr...u get dat...
srinivas1408 1 year ago
@srinivas1408: Do you know how to read before writing comments? My remarks were in response to Greek air power - to be more specific, its weaponry.
NPegasus 1 year ago
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@srinivas1408 @srinivas1408: Do you know how to read before writing comments? My remarks were in response to Greek air power - to be more specific, its weaponry.
NPegasus 1 year ago
@srinivas1408: Do you know how to read before writing comments? My remarks were in response to Greek air power - to be more specific, its weaponry.
NPegasus 1 year ago
@NPegasus go f**K ur brother.....gay country....tiny little piece of s**t..begging fr money....d money u faggots got frm IMA also Has INDIAN share....we hv 2.9% share...which is soon goin 2 b 3.4%...4th highest.....
arsenalrimo 1 year ago
@bionicgreek ....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ..BEG FOR MONEY YOU GREEK...
SAVE YOUR COUNTRY....HA HA HA HA HA HA.....I WILL GIVE YOU MY DICK...
HA HA HA HA HA..... BANKRUPT COUNTRY......
spylucky07 1 year ago
@bionicgreek HAY U GREEK U SPARTANS HAVE ONLY SPEARS AND SHIELD TO FIGHT DONT MESS WITH ASIANS SPECIALLY THE DEADLY COMBINATION OF INDIA AND RUSSIA
gauravzerogravity 1 year ago
@bionicgreek bionic greek u r a gay , do u know indian airforce is on 2 nd number in the world , greek is a fuking gay country ALL ARE HOMOSEXUAL!! so befroe writing a comment search on google that what u r writing ok u fuck face ?
vaibhavthegamer 1 year ago
@vaibhavthegamer gr8 comment...
arsenalrimo 1 year ago
@arsenalrimo xD TY :)
vaibhavthegamer 1 year ago
if we consider the case of su 30...they are the plane which can easily work in jamming environment also While the first pilot flies the aircraft, controls weapons and performs manoeuvring dogfight, the co-pilot employs BVR air-to-air and air-to-ground guided weapons in long-range engagements, monitors tactical environment to ensure situational awareness, and performs command-and-control tasks in group missions.
webrocker9 2 years ago
i agree... indian SU-30s have old soviet avianics, now russia is offering upgrades of indias SU-30s.
ganarzon 2 years ago
no chappy you don't know what you are talking about. IAF sukhois are the most advanced sukhoi of all, it has the very latest avionics from france, russia and India.
fulcrum29 2 years ago
look am only telling you the hard core fact
its just no good in war. i am with the time
and am telling this su jet fighter uses old soviet union avionics
ify1979 2 years ago
@ify1979have you gone crazy dude....this is one of the most advance fighter jet present... it is the only jet which has very powerful radar system i hope you remembered that ysr reddy who died in plane mishap it was cos of sukhoi only debris of his plane were found....
webrocker9 2 years ago
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the new indian SU jet fighter, the only thing new on this jet is the shape and the avionics on the jet are the same, from the old soviet union era there's really nothing new about this jet..
ify1979 2 years ago
yaaa ... and you are the ultimate judge.... ha ha ha ha ha
grow up... time is changing.... and changing very fast....
mkc1122 2 years ago
oh yea, and ure the pilot, right??
ivanlunaelizarraras 2 years ago
well did any tell me from last 10 years how many indian airforce MIG have crash?
danytara 2 years ago
Sweden is one of the most developed countries in the world, with high life quality, high life espectancy, etc...
They don't have 50 ton noisy fighter aircraft...
To all sons the of pakis and indians living in developed countries:
The world is not a video game arcade in which one discusses which country has the best troops or aircraft.
Rafael1977Nico 3 years ago
Sweden is a perfect example
You know, swedish ( in general north european ) people, remind me about a scene i have seen in a hospital..
the not so healthy children, need an incubator to live.. with pefect temprature, oxygen etc..
good luck asshole, living in your incubator.. trying coming out into the nature, atleast once in your sick lifetime
dhruv001 2 years ago
i really dont get your point. you are being a total idiotic hypocrite by condemning how indians/pakis argue about who is better, then you come on here and blow your own trumpet about how sweden is better.
and as for most developed, etc etc, learn to spell EXPECTANCY
abhiginimav 2 years ago 2
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I ♥ this Fighter Probably the most feared War plane in the world it has an anti stealth Passive radar & soon its gona get even Better one, So its a Total kick ass War plane.
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watchboy08 3 years ago 32
@watchboy08 Never seen combat not realy fear full but still its a great plane,Doesnt matter on the plane under neath there all great in some way.
1bearcatf8f 1 year ago
@watchboy08
dude the U S got f 22s n F117a stealth bombers
if it goes against india den da only dat will be kicked is r pride n pilots
so dont boast 2 much
im indian
n i respect da iaf
teamevironmentrescue 1 year ago
@teamevironmentrescue dude, the US doesn't have F-117s anymore. All have been pulled out of service.
JFDhater 1 year ago
@JFDhater even f22 fleet is grounded coz of many problems! Su30mki outclass every fighter! even air superiority f22. you guys do some more research before tagging f22 as a king (prolly watching to much TV)
Devilion901 7 months ago
@Devilion901 and you get your facts right.....I DIDN'T STATE THE F-22 WAS KING. where oh where did I say that? no place. learn to read before you open your yap.
JFDhater 7 months ago
@JFDhater yea i know...even how EA 18 jammed F22 radar and won on exercise ??....this proves how BS f22 is. when you can put more powerful avionics systems on a much cheaper and trusted platform like F18.
FYI USA is struggling to put such systems in f22. but they are failed so far coz of its design and not compatible existing systems. there are planned upgrades for f22 which will cost atleast 100mill per bird. but doesn't include advance jamming capabilities.
world most expensive garbage ?
Devilion901 6 months ago
not only that Sukhoi are sophisticated, but they have the biggest performances! i hope rumania should accept india's offer for buyng 50 Sukhoi's
NotOK88 3 years ago
she is a beauty indeed ..
utubuddy 3 years ago
The sukhois are the most sophsticated
warplanes
generalcrusher 3 years ago 18
@generalcrusher this one is even more .. just the hardware is sukhois .. the avionics etc.. comes from India and europe I believe, tailor made for India and a generation above the other su30s :))
kedharf1 1 year ago
What a big ass jet that is....should make for an easy radar lock!
Parubhi 3 years ago
LOL u stupid ideot Its not build to get shot its build to see first Kill first u gay ass magget so fuck off suck your own dick Fool Hahaha
watchboy08 3 years ago 2
Haha.. from what, F-shitsteens.. lol!!!
peanutbutterblah 3 years ago
u r right easy for radar lock and it must be radiating massive amount of heat, not good featurs in long rage combat, but it must be a kick ass plane in close combat
nuk3m3vil 2 years ago
Mr nuk3m3vil, get some education before claiming that this is not good for long range combat. SU-30MKI(SU-35/37) is second only after the F-22 in long range combat and the BEST 4++ generation aircraft.
mkc1122 2 years ago 3
R77 operational range is 80 kms but AIM120 C5 operational range is only 65kms, but AIM 120 D range is 95kms. Indian air force still got the edge. Looks like shiv1971 is suffering from porki syndrome and he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india.
kashsoldier 3 years ago
"Looks like shiv1971 is suffering from porki syndrome and he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india. ">> Listen, you lying loudmouth cum idiot - I support the IAF. You can't even tell...That is WHY I am emphasizing the need for longer-range weapons on the MKI... As a FYI - the C5 is marketed as the AIM-120D, there is also a C7 version, a planned C8 version, etc. The C5 range is officially secret, but it has hit targets beyond a 100 KM, so a 120 KM kinetic seems right.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
Ya and the aim-120d has a range of 180+ km.
N1cholas240 3 years ago
R77 operational range is 80 kms but AIM120 C5 operational range is only 65kms but AIM 120 D range is 95kms.>>
C5 is marketed as the "D". Apparently there are multiple D versions (as there were C versions) - and the range of the C7 is said to be 160 KM, the planned C8 is claimed to be uround 185 KM. The C5 has hit targets beyond a 100 KM using lofted trajectory methods.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
the aim-120d range is 180+ km.
N1cholas240 3 years ago
the aim-120d range is 180+ km. >>
The C8 version, and I mentioned that earlier...there are multiple D versions, like there were multiple C versions. The C5 is also marketed as D, and is more likley relegated to export customers with its much shorter range as the C7/C8 versions come into play.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
he is also bullshitting around youtube and putting down india. >>
Prove it, sonny! Where have I pulled down India? And where am I "bullshitting"?
The fact is, you know jack - the C5 is the latest AAM placed on the Typhoon (the Meteor is still in development), and only recently tested on it to prove its superlative range.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
aim-120d does not have a range of 95 km it has a range of 180+ km.
N1cholas240 3 years ago
AIM 120D like the Vympel (R 77) AMRAAM has a range between 55 miles to 110 miles assuming a stationary non manouvering target at a certain altitude. For non stationary manouvering targets at low altitudes, the range for both drops by nearly 75%. Depending on other characteristics of the firing aircraft (such as speed), a further drop can be expected getting the effective range down to about 15-18 miles for AIM 120D and R77-M1
Tomahawk1999 2 years ago
r 77 is capable of shooting down larger missiles like maverick and aim 120
misio310 2 years ago
AIM-120 D (95km) is a significantly upgraded version of AMRAAM missile. There is no way, it is the same as AIM 120 C5.
It is like saying R77 (100 km) and R77m (160km)are the same. Pakistanis just have AIM 120-C5 BVR missiles, and its range is less than AIM 120 D.
kashsoldier 3 years ago
It is like saying R77 (100 km) and R77m (160km)are the same. Pakistanis just have AIM 120-C5 BVR missiles, and its range is less than AIM 120 D. >>
The R-77M does NOT have a range of 160 KM, it is the R-77M1. The M is a wide-body version of the baseline rocket with slightly more range, the M1 is a ramjet powered variant. The C5 is marketed as the D, and uses loft trajectory to achieve a boosted range over the baseline R-77s.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
Lets say around 100km. Maximum effective range would be around 80 to 100kms for both missiles. >>
The kinetic range of the R-77 is 90 KM, and perhaps 100 KM for the wide body M (not M1) version (which I don't think is produced). The hit range is much less, closer to 70 KM. The AIM-120D is capable of hitting targets at closer to a 100 KM. Its kinetic range is perhaps closer to 120 KM.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
what about r-77m
Primorsky 3 years ago
what about r-77m >>The M is a wide-body version that weighs a bit more, I don't think it ever went into production. But it's range is likely closer to 100 KM (kinetic), versus perhaps 90 KM of the base R-77 (high-altitude straight shot, kinetic). The R-77M1 is the really interesting product with a range of ~160 KM or more (kinetic) and a fiber optic gyro INS. But the missile seems to be in development forever, there were tests done in around 2002/2003, but no hardware yet...
Shiv1971 3 years ago
I'm not being mean but SUKOIS SUCK HOORIBLY...THE F-15 AND F-16ETC. CAN BEAT THOSE!!!!
XfsxnfsX 3 years ago
I'm not being mean but SUKOIS SUCK HOORIBLY...THE F-15 AND F-16ETC. CAN BEAT THOSE!!!! >>
You are actually being UNINFORMED...the IAF trialed the MKI versus RSAF (Singapore AF) F-16Cs, and won about 70% of the time. Kapisch? And only the F-15F/T has a slight BVR edge due to better radar, which something like the IRBIS can largely blunt.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
Shiv,
Shiv,I dont mean to be mean either, but looks like you really dont know much about 4+ generation fighters, to compare their abilities is even more foolish, as all of them are very able fighters, perhaps the greatest difference would be, in the men behind these machines and some good luck and i dont see Indian pilots lacking in that arena.
these machines
jacobcyriac 3 years ago
"I dont mean to be mean either, but looks like you really dont know much about 4+ generation fighters, to compare their abilities is even more foolish, as all of them are very able fighters">>>> Don't start off with "looks like you know jack...", give a specific point of rebuttal or this is useless. Yes, all fighters are capable in these competitive times, and yes, the fighter pilot matters a lot....but there are valid differences between jets. There is better and worse, based on parameters.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
Now with the interview of the general North American Hul Homburg, the publication "USA Today" where reports on the incredible achievements of the Air Force in India registered against American planes F-15C / D Eagle. The Indian pilotavam the multifunctional fighter Russian Su-30MK and won 90 percent of the fighting air. The Su-30MK Indians were delivered from 1997, the latest and most advanced Su-30MKI not participated in exercises with the American air force.
ricjan33 3 years ago
"The Indian pilotavam the multifunctional fighter Russian Su-30MK and won 90 percent of the fighting air. ">>The fighting was in the sub-40 KM range to simulate the PAF Sparrows, so the IAF would have an "edge" as this is its common practice range. In true BVR fights with AWACS (like the way the USAF trains) the game would have been a bit different.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
SU 30mki rocks! There is nothing in PAF to match it. Even the F16's Bush has sold to Musharraf opps I mean Busharraf are not able to match the Su 30mki. Even Pakistan's OIC crony friend Malaysia decided to buy SU30mkm instead of F16 or F18!Lol the Indians are going to train the Malay pilots! Pakistan kaput sums it up!
thar777 4 years ago
the only fighter can shot down SU-30MKI is F-22 raptor or euro-fighter the rest can kiss SU's ass lol
SAMTOMAS 4 years ago
True, Pak is supposed to be getting F-60 Blk52. It really can't even beat Mig-29SMTs. With US seeing its economy going down the drain I wander what's going to be funding their future Military RnD.
vyasan 4 years ago
USA economy going the drain? the USA alway goes through a recesion every 15 years. USA economy is over U$13 Trillion! INdia's economy is U$800 Billion! meanwhile India has 3.5 x more people! our military only gets 3% of our gdp! INdia spends more of thier economy in the military while most India people are in extreme poverty
reuven2007 4 years ago
Wow, thanks for the advice. We NEED to have our defenses up. Your ally- Pakistan houses terrorists and has attacked us a number of times unprovoked. Are you saying that we should NOT fund our military and be invaded?
vyasan 4 years ago
never wrote that, just enlightened you to some important facts about the USA's economy. Every country needs to protect themselves if possible, we in the USA don't consider India as en enemy but a democratic ally. With Pakistan we must have them close or else they will get too close to China and cause problems in the region.......
reuven2007 4 years ago
USA economy is over U$13 Trillion! INdia's economy is U$800 Billion! meanwhile India has 3.5 x more people! our military only gets 3% of our gdp! INdia spends more of thier economy in the military while most India people are in extreme poverty >>
The Indian economy is over $1 trillion, we spend less on defense in % terms (closer to 2.5%) than the US, and the # of people in extreme poverty is less than 27% (not the majority as you say).
Shiv1971 3 years ago
What are you talking about Shiv?
India spends $0.17 per $10 of it's GDP on the Military
Our GDP is at 3 trillion currently
Not to mention the Military provides jobs to a great deal of people that would otherwise be jobless and provides free education.
..while it also promotes diplomatic relations
KatyushaRockets 3 years ago
What are you talking about Shiv?
India spends $0.17 per $10 of it's GDP on the Military
Our GDP is at 3 trillion currently>> Not sure what you intend to say here. The economy is $1 trllion, you are using a PPP valuation which was not needed for the situation. Our defense spending is closer to 2.5%. And, IMO, that is low...
Shiv1971 3 years ago
Oh snap, I thought you were against military spending, I misread your post - my bad.
KatyushaRockets 3 years ago
"Pak is supposed to be getting F-60 Blk52. It really can't even beat Mig-29SMTs. ">>
Of course it can. The AIM-120D has rather more weapon range and capability. You would need to wait for the new gen R-77s to equalize. Moreover, the Viper is better as a multirole jet with more payload and capability.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
for that we are getting teh MiG-35.. the Zhuk AE radars are the only 5th generation radars capable of detecting stealth and is the only one to match the Raptor's radar.
VayuSena1 3 years ago
the Zhuk AE radars are the only 5th generation radars capable of detecting stealth and is the only one to match the Raptor's radar. >>
That is wrong! It is the least advanced AESA radar with a smaller range, limited engagement capability, and bulkier tiles. It is less capable than upcoming Israeli & European designs, though fairly sophisticated as a radar. It is outclassed by the APG-77. The MiG-35 is primarily excellent for close-in fighting (WVR), and average in other regimes.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
shiv1971- Yes there is AIM-120D BVRs are out there, but it does not mean that pakistan has a bunch of them. Even pakistan defence forum says that it is only AIM-120 C5 and R77BVRs have the same range. Lets say around 100km. Maximum effective range would be around 80 to 100kms for both missiles.
kashsoldier 3 years ago
Yes there is AIM-120D BVRs are out there, but it does not mean that pakistan has a bunch of them. Even pakistan defence forum says that it is only AIM-120 C5 and R77BVRs have the same range. >> Today Pakistan is backward...tomorrow this will change radically with new jets and AEW planes. The C5 is the AIM-120D, and it is better than the R-77 by more than a few KM. It also uses a "top down" view via loft trajectory, means the target imprint is much larger and less tricky.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
AIM-120 D (95km) is a significantly upgraded version of AMRAAM missile. There is no way, it is the same as AIM 120 C5.
It is like saying R77 (100 km) and R77m (160km)are the same. Pakistanis just have AIM 120-C5 BVR missiles, and its range is less than AIM 120 D.
kashsoldier 3 years ago
dude,, the eurofighter is the same as Su-30 MKI in every aspect.. the looks might be different but even the West admits that Russian fighters ar ethe most maneuverable on earth with more speed than any of its Western Counterpart.
VayuSena1 3 years ago
the eurofighter is the same as Su-30 MKI in every aspect.. the looks might be different but even the West admits that Russian fighters ar ethe most maneuverable on earth with more speed than any of its Western Counterpart. >> The Russian jets are better at SUBSONIC regimes, the EF and Raptor are ahead in supersonic regimes, and also use supercruise for good missile range. In close quarters anyone can win, but in BVR (which is an IFFY shot)the Western jets are more sophisticated.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
the Su-30MKI incorporates those "western" traits in itself, thankx to our Israeli allies and also our own emerging technologicla advancement. Maybe the original Su-30 k was not good enough... but the MKI is only second to the raptor in the world.
VayuSena1 3 years ago
the Su-30MKI incorporates those "western" traits in itself.. but the MKI is only second to the raptor in the world.>> That is simplistic. The MKI is outrivalled by the Raptor, and also disadvantaged in some regimes by the EF and Rafale- both of which are much stealthier and offer greater _supersonic agility and avionics sophistication. The MKI's avionics are quite good, but it needs a new generation of A2A weapons with longer range as new missiles emerge.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
once the lca comes along in 2010 we will no longer have to rely on the ruskies but still the su-30mki is awesome and is arguably the best air superiority platform in the world with the exception of the f-22 raptor and it even has capability to carry 4 more missiles than f-22
666FReAkOfNaTuRe666 4 years ago
Its not the plane so much as the pilot. The Su30MKI in the right hands is a lethal platform. Keep customizing and Indian fighters will have a better edge.
KingSolo007 4 years ago
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F-22 would blow that Sukhole right outta the sky.
GLatnus 4 years ago
u right, but wich su ? the SU-35 i dont think so!!
SAMTOMAS 4 years ago
without the stealth technology of raptor.. a one on one dogfight ... the raptor wud be blasted in a matter of seconds. The only thing that makes raptor superior is its stealth.. nothing else
VayuSena1 3 years ago
The only thing that makes raptor superior is its stealth.. nothing else >> Not true. The Raptor has a huge supercruise edge for more launch energy and good endurance, and also has better supersonic agility. It's "data fusion" and radar is also at another level. But the prime weapon is stealth and avionics.
Shiv1971 3 years ago
russian tech with indian touch ups
plane owns pakistan's entire air force due to
long range radar tracking and it can even track from it's rear
might i add
extreme manouvrability
simbainz 4 years ago
sorry but our technology is better ^^
AK107 4 years ago
YEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!
hfreet 4 years ago
yeah we need to make our own planes. No use having others technology
Indiansailor 4 years ago
india and russia and america are working together .
puncru 4 years ago 2
Erm what you said is not true. Its china and russia who is getting along. The US has been yelling that russia is a threat recently as well as china. And russia only takes india as business buddy not allies. India has 70% of russia planes, tanks and etc.. Am i right??
spiritbreakerz 4 years ago
Russia is also helping us in the construction of many Nuclear Power plants. They have also readily made available a lot of military technology in times of need. Putin has on many occasions remarked as how he is pleased with Indian Sovereign policy of not letting other countries affect their decisions.
vyasan 4 years ago 2
Russian technology
ChineseKungFu01 4 years ago
awesome sight
sukhoi30yethu 4 years ago 2
good video buddy
suhasvkamath 4 years ago
Nice Catch Up.
Thanks for Sharing
veer18 4 years ago