@marcohorowitz8 it's understandable. though it wasn't Bartok's intention. It probably sounds "jewish" because of the clarinet and the east-european feel.
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I might not have played the clarinet, but I've played the alto saxophone. This piece has some very animated phrases and classy harmonic modulations. However, the overall effects feels slightly novel to my ears... maybe I simply lack an expanded palate.
Has anyone herd her play the Brahms Clarinet Quintet? Her staccato in the first movement doesnt match the style, too dry and sounds bad as opposed to a more seporated, resonant tone.
I really do hope your not a clarinetist becaues you really have no idear what u are talking about lol, what a retard haahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a usless wana be is what u are haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa
Slightly bizarre argument going on here... Menuhin is generally agreed to be one of the greatest violinists of the 20th century, and as such isn't it expected that he'd interpret it as a great, not simply technically proficient, musician does? As for Thea King - well she was one of the greatest clarinetists of her time. I think the ensemble work here is fantastic and it's a sensitive performance.
There is an error in bar 30 Thea plays an F natural on the Bb clarinet, sounding Eb. Whereas the correct note is an E (a G natural on the A clarinet, as in the score), and so should be an F# on the Bb clarinet
Some people say so what? The whole thing is such a crock of bartok!
In bar 30 Thea plays an F natural on the Bb clarinet, sounding Eb. Whereas the correct note is an E (a G natural on the A clarinet, as in the score), and so should be an F# on the Bb clarinet.
The error is because the B&H 'alternative' Bb part is mistransposed at that point. (In fact, there is another mistransposition on the fifth quarter note of bar 37, which Thea also plays wrongly -- on the Bb clarinet it should be a G natural, not a G#.)
i'm sorry but I can't understand what you're saying. In the ORIGINAL A Clarinet part at bar 30 there's a F# in the score, not a G as you say. And again on bar 37 the note you say in the A part, so the original one not the alternative one, the note is a G, so to be played as a G# as Thea does. But what score do you have?
However, even Goodman with Bartok and Szigeti plays it as Thea does, so......
OMG, oldjarhead I DO apologise. You're completely right, there's an enormous mistake in that point. I thought you were talking about the 1st movement.
Especially since this piece's title refers to the contrast between the folk traditional side vs the west(benny goodman) thus , it's "appalling"ness and "approximations" sound pretty damn fine to me ! :P
Hi Rinhos ~ I don't disbelieve you. I'd like to hear your performance of this. I agree that this isn't really a great peformance. It's rather slow for a start. There's no doubt that Menuhin was great and deserves all the respect he gets, but that doesn't mean that this is a super performance. For my ears and IMO it's just too slow by far. But that's their interpretation on the day and I enjoyed listening. Anyway, we can all agree that Bartok is great I'm sure!
yes yes, i'm stupid. i've not listened to more music than probably you all together, and I don't study violin with a finalist at "Paganini" prize. In addition to that, I don't know this piece "like my pockets".
Always amazes me to see Menuhin with his face completely buried in the score. Maybe just because the camera was on and he didn't want to look up?
iscarfe 2 days ago
hahahaha awesome glad i heard this before i died
kenny13890 2 months ago
love it!
KLR77700 2 months ago
anyone knw wher i can get sheet music for this?
Tarcila62078 1 year ago
wow. i play clarinet too. i hope i can play as good as her someday.
Tarcila62078 1 year ago
is Meuhin using the Soil here?
princhornrhs 1 year ago
sounds Jewish to me, was that the intention?
marcohorowitz8 1 year ago
@marcohorowitz8 not Jewish at all.
Bartok was strongly influenced by the folk music of Hungary and surrounding countries which he collected over many years.
MrFpam 1 year ago
@marcohorowitz8 it's understandable. though it wasn't Bartok's intention. It probably sounds "jewish" because of the clarinet and the east-european feel.
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MiguelKertsman 1 year ago
Qué maravilla!!
Frankineti 1 year ago
Anybody know where I can find the sheet music for free if possible?... I really just want to play this, amazing composing... just amazing
Tech502 1 year ago
@Tech502 check IMSLP (international music score library project) they may or may not have it depending on copyright
spidersrepublic 1 year ago
@Tech502 I know your comment is about 8 months old but in case you haven't got hold of it I can email it to you.
1case123 1 year ago
Fantastic!
KosteckiAdam 1 year ago
Menuhin is best chamber music violinist!
Maryak12 1 year ago
I remember looking for this on YouTube every day!
mansittingherenow 1 year ago
Hello, I need contact with the person who post this video as soon as possible...
Someone knows how can I do that?
psabiora 1 year ago
@psabiora Try clicking on the poster's username, and then clicking "send message." Other than that, I don't know.
cinnamonkitties 1 year ago
2:37 that is ungodly high on the clarinet...
davitogrubba 2 years ago 3
It's not that is too high... It's that it keep high for a while. A real suffering!
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aaron3325 2 years ago
Don't really like it
Edenhyde246 2 years ago
Never been much of a Menuhin fan, but this I like!!
pelodelperro 2 years ago
Awsome Trio! Love it so much!!
pirnonero 2 years ago 2
I am so pleased to play in front of Jeremy next November 2009. And I have to play this music in May 2010
dmytropiano 2 years ago
This piece is amazing.
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this is nothing special... only few moments are good...
Chlarisnetty 2 years ago
What a good atmosphere on this recording (both in the picture and in music)
p2p4all 2 years ago
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It may not be true, cause i'm a cellist, but i think the worst sound was he.
(Violin)
Boozbiiz 2 years ago
In his older age his sound became more inaccurate and unsteady, but a great musician nonetheless.
jmuzic77 2 years ago
The sound is the way, not the destination
zeganasu 2 years ago
I'm Hungaryan!!!!
atmeneti2 2 years ago
You realize its " Hungarian" ? Bad spelling.
OrchDork500 2 years ago
Ezúton is gratulálok.
blerocs 2 years ago
Others have already been this misadventure ...
peles73 2 years ago
I might not have played the clarinet, but I've played the alto saxophone. This piece has some very animated phrases and classy harmonic modulations. However, the overall effects feels slightly novel to my ears... maybe I simply lack an expanded palate.
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Superclarinetmorman1 2 years ago
the rhythm.. the beat... just impossible to count...
ch252525 2 years ago
AMAZING
meyoquito 2 years ago 2
my favourite bartok compositions !
fuckingharpsichord 2 years ago
Oh my god... what is Thea doing!??!!?!?
clairannette 2 years ago
Even if her staccato *does* suck, the preoccupation with it to exclusion of all other issues is pathetic. But amusing!
gaystereotype 3 years ago
Has anyone herd her play the Brahms Clarinet Quintet? Her staccato in the first movement doesnt match the style, too dry and sounds bad as opposed to a more seporated, resonant tone.
HUBAGAFAKA 3 years ago
Three world class players playing this music at this standard is just so amazing : )
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You call the "clarinetist with the ugly staccato" world class player. Hope you don't play the clarinet :)
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I really do hope your not a clarinetist becaues you really have no idear what u are talking about lol, what a retard haahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a usless wana be is what u are haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa
aeatme121 3 years ago
Classy.
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Glad to see this. I finally got it Thea King has not only very ugly tone but blows the clarinet very wrong
klarinetta 3 years ago
The piano is not too loud at all.
helloimapianist 3 years ago 2
Slightly bizarre argument going on here... Menuhin is generally agreed to be one of the greatest violinists of the 20th century, and as such isn't it expected that he'd interpret it as a great, not simply technically proficient, musician does? As for Thea King - well she was one of the greatest clarinetists of her time. I think the ensemble work here is fantastic and it's a sensitive performance.
friendant72 3 years ago 4
There is an error in bar 30 Thea plays an F natural on the Bb clarinet, sounding Eb. Whereas the correct note is an E (a G natural on the A clarinet, as in the score), and so should be an F# on the Bb clarinet
Some people say so what? The whole thing is such a crock of bartok!
oldjarhead 3 years ago
oldjarhead, I'm sorry but Thea doesn't make a mistake. On bar 30 in my score it's written a F# on the A Clarinet, so the Eb, or D#, is correct.
Rinhos 3 years ago
There is an error in 2nd movement.
In bar 30 Thea plays an F natural on the Bb clarinet, sounding Eb. Whereas the correct note is an E (a G natural on the A clarinet, as in the score), and so should be an F# on the Bb clarinet.
The error is because the B&H 'alternative' Bb part is mistransposed at that point. (In fact, there is another mistransposition on the fifth quarter note of bar 37, which Thea also plays wrongly -- on the Bb clarinet it should be a G natural, not a G#.)
oldjarhead 3 years ago
i'm sorry but I can't understand what you're saying. In the ORIGINAL A Clarinet part at bar 30 there's a F# in the score, not a G as you say. And again on bar 37 the note you say in the A part, so the original one not the alternative one, the note is a G, so to be played as a G# as Thea does. But what score do you have?
However, even Goodman with Bartok and Szigeti plays it as Thea does, so......
Rinhos 3 years ago
OMG, oldjarhead I DO apologise. You're completely right, there's an enormous mistake in that point. I thought you were talking about the 1st movement.
Rinhos 3 years ago 2
beside critic them for each mistake start by applause them for each good note they do
AndreLucLevesque 3 years ago
piano is always too loud, i am a pianist, i know this too well,
viewbody 3 years ago
for one thing the piano and clarinet are too loud - over running the violin!
theRedPilll 3 years ago
i agree with klarinutte..
Especially since this piece's title refers to the contrast between the folk traditional side vs the west(benny goodman) thus , it's "appalling"ness and "approximations" sound pretty damn fine to me ! :P
ignorance is bliss eh? hehe
claireenet 4 years ago
Rhinos, so your group plays this piece yet Menuhin has bad musical taste?? Ha . . . good one!
klarinutte 4 years ago 2
you don't even know how we play it, what can you say so? What about Menuhin changing everything Bartok wrote on the score?
Rinhos 4 years ago
post it then!!!
naumrenato 4 years ago
Hi Rinhos ~ I don't disbelieve you. I'd like to hear your performance of this. I agree that this isn't really a great peformance. It's rather slow for a start. There's no doubt that Menuhin was great and deserves all the respect he gets, but that doesn't mean that this is a super performance. For my ears and IMO it's just too slow by far. But that's their interpretation on the day and I enjoyed listening. Anyway, we can all agree that Bartok is great I'm sure!
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this is APPALLING. My group and I paly it much much better.
I really can't appreciate Menuhin. He's so approximative, and what a bad musical taste.
Rinhos 4 years ago
Ignorance is daring!
Congratulations Rinhos, you are stupid but you have courage!!!!
optimusito 4 years ago
yes yes, i'm stupid. i've not listened to more music than probably you all together, and I don't study violin with a finalist at "Paganini" prize. In addition to that, I don't know this piece "like my pockets".
Rinhos 4 years ago
If you know your limitationes, why do you dare to write you thinkings here?
optimusito 4 years ago
-_-'
take away the "don't" from my last post and you'll have the answer, my dear ;)
Rinhos 4 years ago
ware woorden spreekt u mijn goede vriend; Jeremy Menuhin is een Heer en een fabelachtig plezierig mens...
(onderschat uzelve evenmin)
benedetti 4 years ago
Tonight I spent some time with Mr Jeremy Menuhin after a concert he gave; I found him one of the kindest people I've ever met.
klactv 4 years ago 2