LeMay was absolutely way too hardline. However, it's an interesting thought to consider the many military equivalents that existed in the Soviet Union. What happened under his command is absolutely not okay under what we now would consider to be humane war, but when you look at it through the prism of what was going on in WWII, you understand it a bit more. In addition it was also clear his balls probably had their own zip code with the way he acted. What another wonderful chapter of US History
LeMay was a danger to peace. He wanted to use nukes in every war he was associated with. WWII where he accomplished it and Korea, Cuba and Vietnam where he tried his best to use them. Kennedy was RIGHT to oppose LeMay and if Kennedy had not been murdered he might have succeeded in DISarmament with peace and brought an end to the Soviets long before Reagan claimed to.
Ha ha, did LeMay think he was going to live forever? What a fool a man is to place all his hope in this life. If you speak to nurses who work with the terminally ill, they will tell you that some of the patients become terrified in the days prior to death, they see demons coming to get them. Be careful.
"At a Georgetown dinner party recently, the wife of a leading senator sat next to Gen. Curtis LeMay, chief of staff of the Air Force. He told her a nuclear war was inevitable. It would begin in December and be all over by the first of the year... The lady, as she tells it, asked if there were any place where she could take her children and grandchildren to safety... He told her that certain unpopulated areas in the far west would be safest." --Marquis Childs, Washington Post, 19 July 1961
I'm glad Richard Elden has posted here. He makes it ever clearer the insanity of those such as LeMay & the Joint Chief's of JFK's day & the right wing of our day by seriously stating President Kennedy was the worst President in our history, & this after the country has endured Nixon, Ford, Reagan, & the two Bushes. Elden is clearly just as insane himself.
JFK was indeed a hero & 0907oliv & BOELCKE1919 have it correctly. If only LeMay & the other JC's are burning in hell where they belong.
Jack Kennedy saved us from nuclear annihilation and the "insiders" killed him for it, which is why every American should say a prayer to God thanking Him for JFK and should also make a pilgrimage to his eternal flame gravesite. LeMay and the other fascists were barely sane, yet they advised the President.
I can't comment on Mr.Elden's latest. It is true that the Republicans were talking about it. But I can't reply until I fully verse myself on the chain of events. I know RFK aksed his Soviet contact if it was true and got a no. I know it was a few weeks before they got surveillance. JFK was wary of folks trying to get him into a war. I suspect there is more to the story. Seeing Mr. Elden's happiness about the assasination, I don't think I want to waste my time with him any further.
@RichardElden Well it is well written that the Bay of Pigs was doom for disaster from the start....Eisenhower approved the measure and Kennedy went along with it until they asked for Air Cover.
@RichardElden Either you're pure evil or just not a human being. No one deserves to be murdered..NO ONE! As a reform liberal who is now a conservative....I take issue with the notion Nuclear War would have been better...but it's funny..LBJ never mess with Russia and Cuba.
@RichardElden Excuse me..but how do you lose a non-war? How do you consider Kennnedy's diplomatic actions as a lost? "Even with the fruits of victory...they're would be ashes in our mouths" JFK....Even if the Generals are right, if they were wrong, no one would be around to tell them." President Kennedy.
I don't care to get into a give & take with Mr. Elden because i don't think I can change his mind and it would be an execrise in futility. It is now known that nuclear warheads were mounted and pointed at the U.S. during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that the generals on the ground were given the authority by the Russians to decide when to push the button. If JFK had followed the advise of LeMay, it is now believed that at least the east coast of the United States would have been destroyed.
LeMay was a coward and mass murderer of women, children and babies by the most horrible means imaginable. He did it all proudly by r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g them to death with napalm and nuclear weapons at the very time that Japan was trying to surrender but not "unconditionally. During the Korean War the US added 2 million more victims by r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g with napalm. He also was almost certainly aware of LBJ's assassination of JFK--if not an actual participant .
I am curious as to what "faith" JoeZaza100 is talking about. Whatever it is, it failed to protect Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan from armed Soviet aggression. I also would like to know where is gets the idea that the American public is clamoring for nuclear arms reduction. It may interest 0907oliv to know that the largest increase in our nuclear weapons stockpile occurred during JFK's administration.
SAC's mission was to deter nuclear war - period, and to do it through strength. LeMay was called "The Father of SAC," and the entire command considered itself a level above the others. SAC saw itself as the leader, with alert crews, bombers/ICBMs on alert, and no-notice Operational Readiness Inspections (ORI). Many a wing commander saw his career go down in flames after his wing failed an ORI. I served 3 tours in SAC, the command itself went away, but its legacy can't be erased.
@jesme131 LeMay's argument was always a "chicken or egg" one. Nobody really knew if nuclear war was inevitable. Public opinion clamors for the reduction of nuclear arms to this day. Which means that even if it IS going to happen, it won't be at the hands of many but by the hands of a few. A few that would no doubt have power LIKE LeMay. The world didn't naturally accept world peace. It had to be frightened into it by folks without faith. To me, what you call a legacy is more like a stain.
"Civilians can scarcely understand or even believe that many ambitious military professionals truly yearn for wars and the opportunities for glory and distinction afforded only in combat. Wars and emergencies put the military and their leaders on the front pages and give status and prestige to the professionals. Standing closely behind these leaders, encouraging and prompting them, are the rich and powerful defense industries. " --David Shoup, former Marine Corp Commandant, member of the JCS
"Civilians can scarcely understand or even believe that many ambitious military professionals truly yearn for wars and the opportunities for glory and distinction afforded only in combat. Wars and emergencies put the military and their leaders on the front pages and give status and prestige to the professionals. Standing closely behind these leaders, encouraging and prompting them, are the rich and powerful defense industries. " --David Shoup, former Marine Corp Commandant, member of the JCS
Military are all pro-war! It's what their born & bred to do. It's their very being and reason for living.There is nothing they like better than sending millions of men into battle!(AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THEM!)
@450984 Curtis Le May was not pro-war. He hated war, with a burning passion. His philosophy was that if you made war costly enough, it wouldn't be fought.
"I remember Curtis LeMay sitting there [in the gallery at the JFK autopsy] with a big cigar in his hand." --Paul O'Connor, laboratory technologist who assisted in the autopsy of President Kennedy, quoted by William Law, In the Eye of History
"Restraint! Why are you so concerned with saving their lives? The whole idea is to kill the bastards! At the end of the war, if there are two Americans and one Russian, we win!" --Thomas Power, commander in chief of the Strategic Air Command
(cont'd) Perhaps the two most dangerous of all the generals were Curtis LeMay and his head of the Strategic Air Command, General Thomas Power. General LeMay is legendary for his mania to start World War III by goading the Soviet Union with unauthorized reconnaissance flights that penetrated their forbidden boundaries.
Noel Twyman in Bloody Treason wrote of General LeMay's sour relationship with President Kennedy:
John Kennedy and his key people were determined to seize control of the military -- a feat no president had accomplished since World War II. The chiefs resented the Kennedys and their whiz kids who had little or no experience in military command; the chiefs were accustomed to presidents who let them do their thing without meddlesome interference from politicians..
@287654321 You must be a Japanese, LeMay regardless of his politics, served his country well during WW-II......Igues you wanted the peace loving democractic Japanese militarists to be in power???
Curtis LeMay & another member of the Joints Chief tried several times to pressure JFK to make a first strike (nuclear) on the Soviet Union in 1961. JFK said no. In a meeting, JFK was horrified by the detached way in which they described to him how many American cities would be destroyed and how many Americans would be killed with the expected Soviet retaliation. He walked out of the meeting and said: "And we call ourselves the human race!" Thank God for President Kennedy!
Lemay has had no problem in killing hundreds of thousands of human beings. Carpet bombing Japan was not necessary. Carpet bombing killed more Japanese than both A-bombs combined. Fuck all murdering bastards.
General LeMay is the kind of man this nation always seems to produce when the nation needs him, and it always will as long as men like him exist, somewhere in the crowd when duty calls. Admiral King and General LeMay had much in common- they were as brilliant and courageous as they were awkward or downright unpleasant in most social settings, were disliked by many, and now are sadly forgotten. King said it best, as LeMay would have-
General Curtis E. LeMay is a personal hero of mine. I served in SAC, not under LeMay however, though I wish I had. The Air Force needs leader like him and Doolittle & Mitchell now.
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JFK was a coward! JFK was a pixie ASS! JFK was part of the Irish mob! JFK was a yellow SOB! JFK was a moron indeed! JFK was involved in election fraud big time! General Curtis LeMay was a great man indeed! General Curtis LeMay had a lot of balls too! JFK had no balls! General Curtis LeMay, put JFK to shame! I hope JFK is in hell! JFK was bad news period!!!!!
LeMay? Nervous? About what? His enemies had far more to fear from him than he could have ever had to fear from them. LeMay is known for his always having a cigar on hand, usually in his mouth regardless of whether he was smoking it or not. He took up the cigar thing long before Kennedy's time.
Le May, a true hero of freedom? or a genocidal maniac? I say hero.....As for the last part, what is so interesting? he always had cigars, if he was laughing then get paranoid..
Lemay a hero.........Kennedy a zero.
SANTORO61 1 month ago
LeMay was absolutely way too hardline. However, it's an interesting thought to consider the many military equivalents that existed in the Soviet Union. What happened under his command is absolutely not okay under what we now would consider to be humane war, but when you look at it through the prism of what was going on in WWII, you understand it a bit more. In addition it was also clear his balls probably had their own zip code with the way he acted. What another wonderful chapter of US History
droidtank 1 month ago
LeMay was a danger to peace. He wanted to use nukes in every war he was associated with. WWII where he accomplished it and Korea, Cuba and Vietnam where he tried his best to use them. Kennedy was RIGHT to oppose LeMay and if Kennedy had not been murdered he might have succeeded in DISarmament with peace and brought an end to the Soviets long before Reagan claimed to.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
Ha ha, did LeMay think he was going to live forever? What a fool a man is to place all his hope in this life. If you speak to nurses who work with the terminally ill, they will tell you that some of the patients become terrified in the days prior to death, they see demons coming to get them. Be careful.
draoi99 1 month ago
LeMay's support George Wallace shows he was in know about race and things such mass immigration and miscegnation now destroying the west.
knightschwartz 2 months ago
I'm with Curtis LeMay here. Communism spread like a plague, too far and too fast in the '50s.
Agent1W 2 months ago
"At a Georgetown dinner party recently, the wife of a leading senator sat next to Gen. Curtis LeMay, chief of staff of the Air Force. He told her a nuclear war was inevitable. It would begin in December and be all over by the first of the year... The lady, as she tells it, asked if there were any place where she could take her children and grandchildren to safety... He told her that certain unpopulated areas in the far west would be safest." --Marquis Childs, Washington Post, 19 July 1961
mtracy9 2 months ago
I'm glad Richard Elden has posted here. He makes it ever clearer the insanity of those such as LeMay & the Joint Chief's of JFK's day & the right wing of our day by seriously stating President Kennedy was the worst President in our history, & this after the country has endured Nixon, Ford, Reagan, & the two Bushes. Elden is clearly just as insane himself.
JFK was indeed a hero & 0907oliv & BOELCKE1919 have it correctly. If only LeMay & the other JC's are burning in hell where they belong.
skywoof7 3 months ago
Jack Kennedy saved us from nuclear annihilation and the "insiders" killed him for it, which is why every American should say a prayer to God thanking Him for JFK and should also make a pilgrimage to his eternal flame gravesite. LeMay and the other fascists were barely sane, yet they advised the President.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
I can't comment on Mr.Elden's latest. It is true that the Republicans were talking about it. But I can't reply until I fully verse myself on the chain of events. I know RFK aksed his Soviet contact if it was true and got a no. I know it was a few weeks before they got surveillance. JFK was wary of folks trying to get him into a war. I suspect there is more to the story. Seeing Mr. Elden's happiness about the assasination, I don't think I want to waste my time with him any further.
0907oliv 4 months ago
@RichardElden True..but the plan as directed by CIA(before they asked for Air cover) to have only cuban exiles fight not the military
norr4636 4 months ago
@RichardElden I don't think you understand...Castro had already had wind of the plan and was prepared....
norr4636 4 months ago
@RichardElden Well it is well written that the Bay of Pigs was doom for disaster from the start....Eisenhower approved the measure and Kennedy went along with it until they asked for Air Cover.
norr4636 4 months ago
@RichardElden Either you're pure evil or just not a human being. No one deserves to be murdered..NO ONE! As a reform liberal who is now a conservative....I take issue with the notion Nuclear War would have been better...but it's funny..LBJ never mess with Russia and Cuba.
norr4636 4 months ago
@RichardElden Excuse me..but how do you lose a non-war? How do you consider Kennnedy's diplomatic actions as a lost? "Even with the fruits of victory...they're would be ashes in our mouths" JFK....Even if the Generals are right, if they were wrong, no one would be around to tell them." President Kennedy.
norr4636 4 months ago
I don't care to get into a give & take with Mr. Elden because i don't think I can change his mind and it would be an execrise in futility. It is now known that nuclear warheads were mounted and pointed at the U.S. during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that the generals on the ground were given the authority by the Russians to decide when to push the button. If JFK had followed the advise of LeMay, it is now believed that at least the east coast of the United States would have been destroyed.
0907oliv 5 months ago
LeMay was a coward and mass murderer of women, children and babies by the most horrible means imaginable. He did it all proudly by r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g them to death with napalm and nuclear weapons at the very time that Japan was trying to surrender but not "unconditionally. During the Korean War the US added 2 million more victims by r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g with napalm. He also was almost certainly aware of LBJ's assassination of JFK--if not an actual participant .
holodenier 6 months ago
Punks ass Curtis LeMay. Hope the aliens fuck him up the ass hole.
Prostylefilms 7 months ago
OMG I LOVE THIS <3
CurtisLeMayakahannah 9 months ago
my familey member has past it was Curtis LeMay he will be missed my my familey
CurtisLeMayakahannah 9 months ago
Bombs Away! With Curtiss Lemay
tommiatkins 1 year ago
I am curious as to what "faith" JoeZaza100 is talking about. Whatever it is, it failed to protect Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan from armed Soviet aggression. I also would like to know where is gets the idea that the American public is clamoring for nuclear arms reduction. It may interest 0907oliv to know that the largest increase in our nuclear weapons stockpile occurred during JFK's administration.
UCBfan1 1 year ago
SAC's mission was to deter nuclear war - period, and to do it through strength. LeMay was called "The Father of SAC," and the entire command considered itself a level above the others. SAC saw itself as the leader, with alert crews, bombers/ICBMs on alert, and no-notice Operational Readiness Inspections (ORI). Many a wing commander saw his career go down in flames after his wing failed an ORI. I served 3 tours in SAC, the command itself went away, but its legacy can't be erased.
jesme131 1 year ago
@jesme131 LeMay's argument was always a "chicken or egg" one. Nobody really knew if nuclear war was inevitable. Public opinion clamors for the reduction of nuclear arms to this day. Which means that even if it IS going to happen, it won't be at the hands of many but by the hands of a few. A few that would no doubt have power LIKE LeMay. The world didn't naturally accept world peace. It had to be frightened into it by folks without faith. To me, what you call a legacy is more like a stain.
JoeZaza100 1 year ago
Way to read those cue cards, Mr LeMay !!!
huskyjerk 1 year ago
he was a sadist as was power, just like sir arthur harris,of the raf... he was single greatest mass murderer of ww2...
graciemaemarie11 1 year ago
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mtracy9 1 year ago
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"Civilians can scarcely understand or even believe that many ambitious military professionals truly yearn for wars and the opportunities for glory and distinction afforded only in combat. Wars and emergencies put the military and their leaders on the front pages and give status and prestige to the professionals. Standing closely behind these leaders, encouraging and prompting them, are the rich and powerful defense industries. " --David Shoup, former Marine Corp Commandant, member of the JCS
mtracy9 1 year ago
Military are all pro-war! It's what their born & bred to do. It's their very being and reason for living.There is nothing they like better than sending millions of men into battle!(AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THEM!)
450984 1 year ago
@450984 Curtis Le May was not pro-war. He hated war, with a burning passion. His philosophy was that if you made war costly enough, it wouldn't be fought.
ConciseOxford100 11 months ago
LeMay thought that his successor at SAC, Gen. Thomas Power, was insane. We were lucky to have avoided nuclear war (so far).
luridplanet 1 year ago
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0907oliv 1 year ago
"I remember Curtis LeMay sitting there [in the gallery at the JFK autopsy] with a big cigar in his hand." --Paul O'Connor, laboratory technologist who assisted in the autopsy of President Kennedy, quoted by William Law, In the Eye of History
"Restraint! Why are you so concerned with saving their lives? The whole idea is to kill the bastards! At the end of the war, if there are two Americans and one Russian, we win!" --Thomas Power, commander in chief of the Strategic Air Command
mtracy9 2 years ago
(cont'd) Perhaps the two most dangerous of all the generals were Curtis LeMay and his head of the Strategic Air Command, General Thomas Power. General LeMay is legendary for his mania to start World War III by goading the Soviet Union with unauthorized reconnaissance flights that penetrated their forbidden boundaries.
mtracy9 2 years ago
Noel Twyman in Bloody Treason wrote of General LeMay's sour relationship with President Kennedy:
John Kennedy and his key people were determined to seize control of the military -- a feat no president had accomplished since World War II. The chiefs resented the Kennedys and their whiz kids who had little or no experience in military command; the chiefs were accustomed to presidents who let them do their thing without meddlesome interference from politicians..
mtracy9 2 years ago
7:57 clearly summarizes CLs' attitude : Lemay had foreknowledge of the assassination and was giddy when viewing JFKs' murdered corpse.
CLmay: mass-murderer, terrorist & traitor !
287654321 2 years ago
@287654321 You must be a Japanese, LeMay regardless of his politics, served his country well during WW-II......Igues you wanted the peace loving democractic Japanese militarists to be in power???
steveforsane 1 year ago
somebody know relationship between curtis lemay and edward lansdale?
madmax7272jj 2 years ago
Curtis LeMay & another member of the Joints Chief tried several times to pressure JFK to make a first strike (nuclear) on the Soviet Union in 1961. JFK said no. In a meeting, JFK was horrified by the detached way in which they described to him how many American cities would be destroyed and how many Americans would be killed with the expected Soviet retaliation. He walked out of the meeting and said: "And we call ourselves the human race!" Thank God for President Kennedy!
0907oliv 2 years ago 15
Lemay has had no problem in killing hundreds of thousands of human beings. Carpet bombing Japan was not necessary. Carpet bombing killed more Japanese than both A-bombs combined. Fuck all murdering bastards.
2242bzo 2 years ago
Dear Curtis Emerson LeMay
The Japanese citizen wants to curse it to your descendant without permitting it the treatment that is your brutal person forever.
popykunbaka 2 years ago
@popykunbaka Douchebag... Go ask the Chinese for their opinion of Japan during WW2.
devildoc225 10 months ago
who yew saying that to dont say that to my relitive Curtis LeMay u beter not
CurtisLeMayakahannah 9 months ago
Kennedy a coward?what?I see...He to Roger Blough said SOB in 1962 or..to the General McHugh F* ck up!
He had balls not as you!You are a coward, He had pain in the back for example and never never groan of pain!
and you stupid, sure you are a grumpy :D
respect!
SunCelticSea 2 years ago 4
General LeMay is the kind of man this nation always seems to produce when the nation needs him, and it always will as long as men like him exist, somewhere in the crowd when duty calls. Admiral King and General LeMay had much in common- they were as brilliant and courageous as they were awkward or downright unpleasant in most social settings, were disliked by many, and now are sadly forgotten. King said it best, as LeMay would have-
"I believe my record will speak for itself."
And so it does.
Jurassic0Al 2 years ago
Big fat dopey prick.
Aside from that, I don't understand how Kennedy chose Johnson as a running mate, they seem so different.
wiznetdragonfly 2 years ago
This too is true...
CNS2 2 years ago
General Curtis E. LeMay is a personal hero of mine. I served in SAC, not under LeMay however, though I wish I had. The Air Force needs leader like him and Doolittle & Mitchell now.
CNS2 2 years ago
The MILITARY needs a leader like him.
majorporpoise 2 years ago
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JFK was a coward! JFK was a pixie ASS! JFK was part of the Irish mob! JFK was a yellow SOB! JFK was a moron indeed! JFK was involved in election fraud big time! General Curtis LeMay was a great man indeed! General Curtis LeMay had a lot of balls too! JFK had no balls! General Curtis LeMay, put JFK to shame! I hope JFK is in hell! JFK was bad news period!!!!!
marcinohio575 2 years ago
you should thank your lucky stars i ignored this big dope....
jfkreincarnated 2 years ago
yeah and you are nazi!!
SunCelticSea 2 years ago
He always had a cigar
andy8181818181 2 years ago
He always had a cigar of course he had a cigar the president had just been murder he was nervous for the country you dumbass
andy8181818181 2 years ago
LeMay? Nervous? About what? His enemies had far more to fear from him than he could have ever had to fear from them. LeMay is known for his always having a cigar on hand, usually in his mouth regardless of whether he was smoking it or not. He took up the cigar thing long before Kennedy's time.
Jurassic0Al 2 years ago
lol @ the 'music'
lemay and lemnitzer, power were total war pig fascists.
all the chiefs
spiralsone 2 years ago
screw you you commie puss
clustro 2 years ago
What examples show that LeMay was a fascist? If you made that comment in my presence you would have a real problem.
dgambino30 2 years ago 2
Curtis was my great uncle. No joke.
awbcrazy 2 years ago
Cool, He was like my 3rd cuson.
adminallen 1 year ago
Le May, a true hero of freedom? or a genocidal maniac? I say hero.....As for the last part, what is so interesting? he always had cigars, if he was laughing then get paranoid..
caine7sfg 2 years ago
hmm, interesting little tid-bit at the end
kels3884 3 years ago
Not really. LeMay ALWAYS had a big cigar.
lucabrasi1337 3 years ago
thanks for sharing
rodni7777 3 years ago 3
Another very interesting video- especially the very last part..
Steenville 3 years ago 6