i can get motors the size of the earser on a pencil with a inch propeller that runs on single cell lipo's that are three point seven volts motor and lipo weighs 1 gram combinded each lipo runs 10 mins
For those rednecks out there with very limited cranial capacity... the "dung" he refers to is from herbivores and only after it's been thoroughly dried.
I like the concept behind this stove. Many will cite the use of batteries as a disadvantage for survival use. It's my understanding that a set of batteries will go about 40 hrs. But that shouldn't matter if you're using re-chargeable batteries and a solar re-charger. Theoretically, that seems to be a workable combination. Bottom line is that with or without the fan, biomass stoves are still beneficial.
I was thinking about all my electric fan wood gas stove projects. Too many to count.
When comparing to non-electric designs such as the bush buddy i was curious as to if there was a compact & easy way to manually inject air into the stove.
The ex bushbuddy tends to clog up quickly and must use very specific sized wood fuel.
If the air could go in and loosen up the compacted ashes & stuff it would be much better.
Blowing in the bottom holes works on occasion . But not for long.
@cobalt120 id have to assume u seen/used many of the commercially available forced air wood stoves out there, do you think this is best? i live in australia and we have nothing like that over here for sale it sux so id have to order it from the usa. it appears to have the best boil time when compared to then others and the fan look more powerful. i dont want to rely on batteries thats why the crank question was important to me.i dont care if i gotta crank for however long it takes to boil water
Ok the vital stove does work with the crank flashlight that uses an incandescent light bulb.
I got it running got nearly 5 minutes on the flashlight alone. Although it was not as powerful as with batteries.
I then added two cheap NI-MH AA batteries in series to the crank light (taped to the flashlight and now it works great. All it needed was some more storage capacity.
As for the commercial gasifier stove , and yes i answered your biolite stove questions on my channel.
The vital stove or the sierra zip stove will work with a crank charger. Most other commercial stoves require at least a 9vDC and 120mA charge to work properly and the hand crank flashlight can't provide that.
For those stoves a low cost solar panel & battery kit is best.
@cobalt120 thanx cobalt for all your help.actually my crank is just a lightweight crank with no battery nuthin.i hope it works. i hate that biolite people because the wont release the damn thing!! it makes me so annoyed becuase i think it seems to be the best..
Lastly if you know of some one good in electronics. You can have them build a decent concentric multi-magnet crank battery pack, which are quite lite in weight.
This will fit your needs quite well for any powered stove.
Yes a solar panel works on the vital stove. However you do need a voltage regulator.
Most home made gasifier stoves use a 9 or 12 vDC computer cpu or power supply fan. Those do ot require a voltage regulator for the solar pannel.
I tried the 19.95$ Canadian tire trickle charge solar panel and it 's works just fine. There is sufficient amperage to run a 120mm computer case fan. Therefore it can run the vital stove.
I will connect a crank Incandescent & LED flashlight to the vital stove and get back to you.
It has a good chance of working. However those crank flashlights do not have much charge capacity. Therefore i do not know how long a standard cranking will last on a high mA drain item like a DC fan.
I figure about 10 minutes.... Maybe. A larger capacity capacitor might need to be added.
The size of the flame doesnt allow you to use it in a small winter tent, I guess. So the smart thing would be to join a tube that could adapt to the burner in order to turn it into a mini stove where there would be a little flame control, at least to be able to use it as a radiator with half of you entrance door opened; Good thinking for who-ever thought of that stove;)
I also carry a trangia alcohol stove with a small 4oz bottle or fuel . It sits perfectly in the bottom of the vital stove and you get a perfect wind screen & pot holder as a bonus.
This is a woodgas stove plain and simple. You can start it faster using lighter fluid or charcoal starter. Or make some fire starter balls to keep with the stove coffee filter filled with dryer lint dipped in wax.
Google woodgas stove and you will see many forms of this stove some are large and expensive and save by burning biomass rather than fosil fuels. I would like to see one of these with a solar panel on it.
@callancanoe sweet your in Canada mate, if you go to deals they have small and big solar panels, maybe 6 inch long and maybe 3 inch wide, and a smaller one maybe half that. the big one puts out 1.5 volts uh imnot sure about the small one but there really like. they also have a small blower the type you use to blow hot furnace hair around your house, but a very small scale ( hold it in my palm) its plastic so you might need some small aluminum pipe to run it to the stove so it doest melt, matthew
Good idea. It's on my to-do list and should be made early this spring.I do have an article coming out in the next Explore magazine on my best 10 gadgets.
It does require batteries, and this part of the stove is connected, which means it's stored sperate. I would say this is a disadvantage but eventually I'd loose this part of the stove and the stove would just become a weight in my pack.
I love the sound of nature *srsrsrsrsrs*
digitalesnegativ 1 week ago
why the fuck wouldent you want a fire your not a proper man
LukeAndJema 1 month ago
Allow me to clarify for those rednecks out there who will no doubt error.
Dung from herbivores after it has dried for several days.
solobackpacking 2 months ago
Thanks 4 the laugh goodtimes =P
MrSokitumi0007 2 months ago
ok motor and lipo combined is 5.6 grams my bad
justwired 2 months ago
i can get motors the size of the earser on a pencil with a inch propeller that runs on single cell lipo's that are three point seven volts motor and lipo weighs 1 gram combinded each lipo runs 10 mins
justwired 2 months ago
wondering is this thing considered legal in place where open fire is illegal since its a stove
justwired 2 months ago
really its just building a small fire and a fan is just getting to burn hotter ive already thought of twenty ways to build one my self
justwired 2 months ago
good review..I just got mine today with the bbq grill...cant wait to try it out.
RustyHingesSqueak 3 months ago
For those rednecks out there with very limited cranial capacity... the "dung" he refers to is from herbivores and only after it's been thoroughly dried.
dinnerandashow 3 months ago
I like the concept behind this stove. Many will cite the use of batteries as a disadvantage for survival use. It's my understanding that a set of batteries will go about 40 hrs. But that shouldn't matter if you're using re-chargeable batteries and a solar re-charger. Theoretically, that seems to be a workable combination. Bottom line is that with or without the fan, biomass stoves are still beneficial.
JJSears10 5 months ago 2
Now, combine this with a sterling/bohm engine running the fan, and you have a magic device. BioLite Stove...check it.
j20past4 7 months ago
Killarney Park Manitoba Canada? ?
MrNeosoul99 1 year ago
@MrNeosoul99 Northern ontario at the top of georgian bay
pARISsKATERS 10 months ago
Yep way to close to the tent..
You would think by now they would have come up with a decent fireproof lite material for tents.
I made mine from a couple old woods canvas tents. A little heavier but much better.
cobalt120 1 year ago
I was thinking about all my electric fan wood gas stove projects. Too many to count.
When comparing to non-electric designs such as the bush buddy i was curious as to if there was a compact & easy way to manually inject air into the stove.
The ex bushbuddy tends to clog up quickly and must use very specific sized wood fuel.
If the air could go in and loosen up the compacted ashes & stuff it would be much better.
Blowing in the bottom holes works on occasion . But not for long.
cobalt120 1 year ago
@cobalt120 id have to assume u seen/used many of the commercially available forced air wood stoves out there, do you think this is best? i live in australia and we have nothing like that over here for sale it sux so id have to order it from the usa. it appears to have the best boil time when compared to then others and the fan look more powerful. i dont want to rely on batteries thats why the crank question was important to me.i dont care if i gotta crank for however long it takes to boil water
ninjataki21 1 year ago
@ninjataki21
Hi.
Ok the vital stove does work with the crank flashlight that uses an incandescent light bulb.
I got it running got nearly 5 minutes on the flashlight alone. Although it was not as powerful as with batteries.
I then added two cheap NI-MH AA batteries in series to the crank light (taped to the flashlight and now it works great. All it needed was some more storage capacity.
Got 12 minutes run time on a 30 second crank.
Good luck.
cobalt120 1 year ago
@ninjataki21
As for the commercial gasifier stove , and yes i answered your biolite stove questions on my channel.
The vital stove or the sierra zip stove will work with a crank charger. Most other commercial stoves require at least a 9vDC and 120mA charge to work properly and the hand crank flashlight can't provide that.
For those stoves a low cost solar panel & battery kit is best.
You might also look at the "Bush Buddy" stove.
cobalt120 1 year ago
@cobalt120 thanx cobalt for all your help.actually my crank is just a lightweight crank with no battery nuthin.i hope it works. i hate that biolite people because the wont release the damn thing!! it makes me so annoyed becuase i think it seems to be the best..
ninjataki21 1 year ago
@ninjataki21
Lastly if you know of some one good in electronics. You can have them build a decent concentric multi-magnet crank battery pack, which are quite lite in weight.
This will fit your needs quite well for any powered stove.
Good luck
cobalt120 1 year ago
is that the ray mears gransfor bruks small forest axe in the snow there?
avhousebitch 1 year ago
Hi.
Yes a solar panel works on the vital stove. However you do need a voltage regulator.
Most home made gasifier stoves use a 9 or 12 vDC computer cpu or power supply fan. Those do ot require a voltage regulator for the solar pannel.
I tried the 19.95$ Canadian tire trickle charge solar panel and it 's works just fine. There is sufficient amperage to run a 120mm computer case fan. Therefore it can run the vital stove.
Remember to use a long enough power cord.
cobalt120 1 year ago
@cobalt120 what about a hand crank dynamo? how do you think it would go, im pretty sure u could output more from it than a solar unit?
ninjataki21 1 year ago
@ninjataki21
I will connect a crank Incandescent & LED flashlight to the vital stove and get back to you.
It has a good chance of working. However those crank flashlights do not have much charge capacity. Therefore i do not know how long a standard cranking will last on a high mA drain item like a DC fan.
I figure about 10 minutes.... Maybe. A larger capacity capacitor might need to be added.
cobalt120 1 year ago
The size of the flame doesnt allow you to use it in a small winter tent, I guess. So the smart thing would be to join a tube that could adapt to the burner in order to turn it into a mini stove where there would be a little flame control, at least to be able to use it as a radiator with half of you entrance door opened; Good thinking for who-ever thought of that stove;)
hamrite 1 year ago
Yes it does burn dry moose or rabbit dung.
I also carry a trangia alcohol stove with a small 4oz bottle or fuel . It sits perfectly in the bottom of the vital stove and you get a perfect wind screen & pot holder as a bonus.
cobalt120 2 years ago
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cobalt120 2 years ago
It's not homemade. Sold through Eureka, Canada. The Kelly Kettle looks cool - I've never tried it though
Kevin Callan
KCHappyCamper 2 years ago
Kelly Kettle far superior and cost less....
frosty4700 2 years ago
is homemade?
kbckiwi 2 years ago
This is a woodgas stove plain and simple. You can start it faster using lighter fluid or charcoal starter. Or make some fire starter balls to keep with the stove coffee filter filled with dryer lint dipped in wax.
Google woodgas stove and you will see many forms of this stove some are large and expensive and save by burning biomass rather than fosil fuels. I would like to see one of these with a solar panel on it.
cdltpx 2 years ago
Good comments. I actually tried to cotton balls and vaseline and they worked great. If you see one with a solar panel, let me know. Great idea.
callancanoe 2 years ago
@callancanoe sweet your in Canada mate, if you go to deals they have small and big solar panels, maybe 6 inch long and maybe 3 inch wide, and a smaller one maybe half that. the big one puts out 1.5 volts uh imnot sure about the small one but there really like. they also have a small blower the type you use to blow hot furnace hair around your house, but a very small scale ( hold it in my palm) its plastic so you might need some small aluminum pipe to run it to the stove so it doest melt, matthew
pyroman675 1 year ago
Good idea. It's on my to-do list and should be made early this spring.I do have an article coming out in the next Explore magazine on my best 10 gadgets.
callancanoe 2 years ago
good review, hey could you make a video on the equipment/canoe you take on your canoe trips solo and tandem?
goalkick36 2 years ago
It does require batteries, and this part of the stove is connected, which means it's stored sperate. I would say this is a disadvantage but eventually I'd loose this part of the stove and the stove would just become a weight in my pack.
callancanoe 2 years ago
I've heard of these but never saw one in action.I assume it requires a battery but even so it looks light weight.
I'm looking forward to your forum at Canoecopia.
carl6855 2 years ago