what's the deal? As seen from outside, Wing Chun people learn all that clever sticky hands stuff and then never use it in sparring? I'm not sure I understand this
@ennot In order to do sticky hands as people are used to see it, they have to do it without boxing gloves. Secondly, you have to be really close in and your opponent must have a strong guard up to stick to. If your opponent is less skilled, it is easier to bash him with punches that he can not block than to stick to his hands. But if you look closely, they use sticky hands from time to time, but only if they get close and have to rely on their reflexes instead of eyes.
guys the people cannot learn wing chun in just five days... they just learn how to punch and how to stand. And they couldnt use neither punches or stances. it just a Tv show. they cannot give u everything just the basic idea....
@AndreasAT8 exactly. Why are people criticizing the technique so much. You have to realize they had FIVE DAYS of training in Wing Chun. It takes a lot of time to learn an art.
As much as I love to see this on mainsteam tv....the ving tswun in here is not very good...now...maybe they were taking it easy or maybe they were just focusing on punching...but i didn't see anything but punching while they were sparring...And don't tell me you cant do a tung sau with sparring gloves on...
I noticed in this series they mostly focused on the punching, none of the other hands (tan sau, bong sau, and fuk sau).
Also, it would be nice if they emphasized that chi sau is an exercise, not a fighting technique, as people tend to see it and claim that's what Wing Chun is.
the translator is a hong kong drama series actor, when was thie fight quest from? wondering if that guy got an acting gig from being a translator for this episode, lol
What an Idiot! You are in Hong Kong! Asia, for crying out loud! Chinese clinic, ring a bell? There are hundreds of Chinese clinics especially in Hong Kong, China or Taiwan. Who can at least treat your knee for two days, better than just icing it =_=/// Hopeless guy.
wing chun is a joke. If the wing chun punch was trully effective it would be seen in boxing or MMA? Why is it that 99.99999 % of all MMA fighters learn boxing as their main punshing art instead of wing chun? Probably because wing chun doesn't work.
By the way its either wing chun or wing choon and not wing TSUN!.. wing chun & wing choon was created a few hundred years ago .. wing TSUN - i have never heard of its originality..no wonder this episode never showed on TV after the FQ guys found out they got screwed
if that was wing chun, all the wing tsun guys should go learn boxing! and the sparring in this episode is a joke - the wing tsun guy got beaten -so much for the straight punch.. so i am saying the real wing chun is not the straight punch..what the wing tsun guys seem to be teaching is just do the straight punch and they punching like mad ppl..so i am saying that's not the traditional wing chun.
FQ has gone to the wrong wing chun school, all the episodes i am looking at is just sparring sparring sparring.. traditional wing chun is not like that..sorry this LT wing tsun lost it, this is not the traditional way.
One of the most serious defects of Leung Ting's system is the placement of >80% of the body weight on the trailing leg. We can see the result in this clip- the LT student bobs his head back A LOT trying to dodge. That is not controlling the line!
If my observation is incorrect, then how can a boxer having less than a week's exposure beat the LT student at his own game? The message is Why pay years of tuition? You can master Leung Ting's system in under a week.
@DizzyDerwish who cares to master his system when what he is teaching is not even applicable - who cannot make a straight punch? why did his student lose to the boxer? the answer is easy - the student has learnt the wrong principles and what he practised has been wrong - this means his master know nothing. If based on a few "principles" he thinks he know wing chun or other martial art - then he is ignorant.
Sifu Kong is very very impressive, and importantly very realistic as well as being extremely likeable and humble. One of the best teachers I've ever seen. Thank you for the upload.
@nathanbilly592 iv taken boxing for 4 years and wing chun for 3 weeks and i can tell you wing chun is better for a street fight. boxing is better in mma tho. wing chun rocks
I know that, I do BJJ, Boxing and used to do Taekwondo. In training you can get injured I'm just saying I find it odd how they keep getting a injury right before their final fights.
Yes normal people would but one of them is a MMA fighter and the other is a ex-military solider. The training there would exhaust the hell out of us and leave us with injuries but you'd think someone with their level of training could go to at least one place without getting a injury. Some of them are way more brutal like that Krav Maga but others aren't that bad.
@JuniorArtist27 Knee injuries are kinda common in Wing Tsun. It's a style of Wing Chun, wich has more weight on one leg than the traditional styles have. If you have the wrong angle with your knees to your hip, you WILL get an injury. Normally, the sifu tells you how to angle yourself in the first lesson to avoid that, but Leung Ting seems to have missed that...
@JuniorArtist27 Yeah its kinda bound to happen when you watch threw the episodes you can see the bruises and swelling , why dont you go try One of these fighting style's at a black belts pace when your a beginner ... even better dont do it for 5days like these try 2 you would FAIL
ARE YOU BEINg THE FUCK FOR REAL?!?!?!?!?!!!!!! ExileCanadaMetal and every one else just stop with all the bitchin this...this ExileCanadaMetal fucker OBVIOUSLY thinks that the band is the shit (in fact they are shit) saying any thing to them wont matter they'll just keep going on defending something that shouldn't even be!! Ive studied both wing chun and hapkido both excelent styles unless you know the martial arts then dont bash them. (bunch of bull)IF you wanna hear REAL metal try Dir En Grey
funny how people say " this is not WC" "where is this where is that."...then what the hell is WC if someone is specting to see the stuff from demos and movies guess what aint happening. it will always look a little rough or like a brawl because fights are alive and not set with predictability
you were? i guess you didnt last more then one training exercise. you obviously never practiced a martial art, so buddy just stop acting like you know what youre talking about.
im not really imagining anything. im just being realistic. and i wasnt really butting into anything its a public website that has a commenting section. if you dont like my comment to you dont respond and just shut up.
its funny all you can say is fuck you and fuck yourself to me. im guessing intelligence runs low in your family.
I bet those CDs make nice coasters for my drink. Send me a stack and I'll use em at the next happy hour. Way to jump on the bandwagon at the age of 50. ooh Scary talents. Good luck making shit.
wow u don't look a day over 50 though. How do u do it. Old fart music. I'll give you 12 logs of shit instead. That's gotta be worth more than the costs and effort you put in. I could take them and play it at the insane asylum and comatose ward. They won't mind.
well thats generous of you. but i think you should probably spend more time reading a book and seeing the world beyond the basement of your parents house and live life instead of acting like a know it all and tough guy online.
and i know i dont look a day over 50 since im not 50 also i didnt know metal was old fart music..............
I think you should stick your all your shit CDs in your ass till it bleeds. Better to be a tough guy than a tough girl like you. Metal? Don't make me laugh. Keep patting yourself on the back for that miserable screeching crap you call metal. You're just a has-been, correction never-been, who thinks he's good. Grandpa....
haha what ever you say buddy. im 21 dumb ass thats far from being a grandpa.
second im not like you are any one of your family members i dont like sticking things up my ass.
btw we actually sing in the band maybe if you did actually listen to it instead of saying my band is shit when you havent even heard it is just absurd.
you comment on things you have no idea about. wing chun and my band.. grow up
i did listen and now i'm deaf and on a suicide watch. My plants wilted and died and my hamster shot himself. Satanic Grandpa Loser music does this to people. Oh 21? Then you're the youngest loser to ever walk the earth. Kill yourself it's hopeless. Join the convent or something. You're washed up.
It doesn't matter. Satan still believes in you, especially Loser Atheists with dim music "careers" like you. It's ok. All you have to do is play your crappy music backwards so it makes sense and choke the shit out of your bandmates and your career will take off.
Very closed and cramped, also you have to be mindful of your sensitive environment. This forces you to effectively use power in a delicate and tight space. :D
This is really terrible lineage that they choose they should of used either Ip Ching or Ip Chung. i guess they used a wingchun school that they can at least spar and stuff for television purposes.
- use chi sau to find an opening THEN unload and beat the snot out of them. In other words, you don't have to enter with chain punches right off the bat...throw something in there, find the bridge - it's ok to chill out for a moment to get your bearings and let the enemy try (key word: TRY) to do something. Once that's done and you have control, you can feel for an opening and go for it. Could be the way they were training - it's hard to do it that way with those big gloves on.
2:24 "It's just two guys wailing away at each other"
That's why I can't fully get behind Leung Ting. I went to a Leung TIng school for about a year, and have seen a fair amount of his particular version of Wing Chun. "Wailing away at each other" pretty much describes his take on it. This is not to say I'm not down with the Leung Ting level of aggressiveness, but after a few years under a different lineage (Ip Ching) I try to apply it a little differently -
seems like boxe not traditional wing chun, where is the inteligency martial arts over there? We know leuting came from Ip man, but this is what people dont understand,...that every one have the own style, and if u copy someone... u will be forever a bad copy.... jeet kune do its a Bruce lee expression, his body, mind expression of the wing chun...but the people doesnt understand that and try to be like him.. Or punch like this video, like boxe, kick and trhow all the body =P
there's no such thing as counting point and no wing chun punch and kick that count. That just stupid, a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. jeez, any punch that hit count and any kick that hit count.
I completely though respectfully disagree, you have to learn how to fight outside a certain range as well as in. Chi sao is a great tool and the cornerstone of Wing Chun but honestly its not all that the art is.
I agree that free sparring must be a part of training in WC, but Chi Sao is not just for close range fighting! Chi Sao actually teaches the person how to fight long range as well among other benefits.. Though this might sound stupid it is true.. Just not all lineages understands that.. If you can't see how this is true please say so..
bare in mind I havent trained it in a long(now do yang tai chi and northern shoalin) while though i do occasionally recieve lessons from my first sifu. Please, enlighten me.
Chi Sao is done in a circular way to cover all possible contact point among other benefits.. Simply said the hand going from Tan Sau to Bong Sau covers all possible attacks coming above your hand and the hand doing the Fook Sau covers all possible attacks coming under your hand.. Thats if ofcourse assuming one isn't chasing hands but pointing to the target(preferably along the center) which ofcourse has many benefits.. Keep in mind i am probably one of the worst students in my lineage..
to me, there's is no long range fighting because if someone want to hit you they have to get their fist to you. In that sense it's short range or whatever you call it. Chi Sao is to deal with whatever come to you. The calmer you are the better you can deal with it.
yes, I also agree. It's before contact we can it long range. Because in Wing Chun after the contact we do not want to let go or in other word "get unsticky". This is what sticky hand is training. Stick with the oponent because once you retrieve you've open up and you're more vulnerable to say the least. More comments are welcome.
To me sticking hands is a mean to hit the opponent so i don't want to stick with them.. If my arms meet with the opponent's arms either while countering or while attacking i try to remove that barrier and continue to hit the opponent.. This goes with one of the basic requirements of Wing Chun that says "intercept what come; pursue what departs; when the hands are freed of obstructions, attack indistinctively".
we've finally disagreeing on something and I think that a good thing b/c this is where the learning and thinking start.lol. your wing chun saying is different than mine(well not mine but from my teacher, you know what i mean :). Mine is " Accept what comes, escort what goes, and when there's no obstructions..attack" .. So I'm not suppose to be afraid of the punch, after the contact stick with it, if the punch retract the oponent is force to be on defense b/c i will escort what goes,
and of course attack if there no obstruction. Because of this I see that in the video the way that they spar have little use in Wing Chun training. More like MMA or boxing.
However, there will be many wing chun people disagreeing with me because the way they learned it. Different teachers interpret the system differently and taught it differently. Because each hand in Wing Chun can be interpret differetn ways, different ideas arise from the system. We can see this as a beauty of art and not to agrue over it, just friendly discussion for more exposure to the art. The beauty is that the same hand can be use and differently but still have an effective result
I see different ways people interepret and use tan sau here and it still work. I don't agree with most of them but hey you must respect other martial artist. I come to agree most with the school and the line of Chu Tsung Tin. To me there are two approach to learning the system or maybe three. First is the external way, second is internal way, and maybe the three is mixed, but maybe mix is not a good idea
Nice train 2 weeks and beat Leung Ting students with an easy, playing their stupid game.
pkjdm 1 week ago
the guy with the pint tail has the same facial expression even when he gets hit haha :D
southlandsabc 1 month ago
what's the deal? As seen from outside, Wing Chun people learn all that clever sticky hands stuff and then never use it in sparring? I'm not sure I understand this
ennot 2 months ago
@ennot In order to do sticky hands as people are used to see it, they have to do it without boxing gloves. Secondly, you have to be really close in and your opponent must have a strong guard up to stick to. If your opponent is less skilled, it is easier to bash him with punches that he can not block than to stick to his hands. But if you look closely, they use sticky hands from time to time, but only if they get close and have to rely on their reflexes instead of eyes.
I hope I helped.
nabapoisu 1 month ago
If his knee is hurtin then why is he trying to kick, and he is jumping around on it too... thats not even wing chun...
banheden 9 months ago 2
Why is it that they can hardly use any Wing Chun moves in sparring and real fight.
ZombieNGhost 9 months ago
no wing chun is used...... just punching.....
joonyayu 10 months ago
guys the people cannot learn wing chun in just five days... they just learn how to punch and how to stand. And they couldnt use neither punches or stances. it just a Tv show. they cannot give u everything just the basic idea....
AndreasAT8 11 months ago
@AndreasAT8 exactly. Why are people criticizing the technique so much. You have to realize they had FIVE DAYS of training in Wing Chun. It takes a lot of time to learn an art.
TheRiobezerko 8 months ago 2
As much as I love to see this on mainsteam tv....the ving tswun in here is not very good...now...maybe they were taking it easy or maybe they were just focusing on punching...but i didn't see anything but punching while they were sparring...And don't tell me you cant do a tung sau with sparring gloves on...
kikme420 11 months ago
I noticed in this series they mostly focused on the punching, none of the other hands (tan sau, bong sau, and fuk sau).
Also, it would be nice if they emphasized that chi sau is an exercise, not a fighting technique, as people tend to see it and claim that's what Wing Chun is.
NerdInHisShoe 11 months ago
5:26 wtf the translator don't know cantonese or doesn't know how to translate...
1977hero 1 year ago
gut
panfred1 1 year ago
the translator is a hong kong drama series actor, when was thie fight quest from? wondering if that guy got an acting gig from being a translator for this episode, lol
uveoh 1 year ago
they gave him some noob to fight with :)
bubnjarovski 1 year ago
What an Idiot! You are in Hong Kong! Asia, for crying out loud! Chinese clinic, ring a bell? There are hundreds of Chinese clinics especially in Hong Kong, China or Taiwan. Who can at least treat your knee for two days, better than just icing it =_=/// Hopeless guy.
nchang227 1 year ago
I love how they always say sparring is punishing, everytime ive been punched while sparring it was fun somehow
IamHueGraves 1 year ago
what if u just block the chain punch and then give a MASSIVE knockout hook to the right side of the head? or left whatever.
when u had enough of the slapfest haha
nephildevil 1 year ago
Re file to part 5 pou einai?
Argino1982 1 year ago
Krav maga, first rule:
"Don't get hurt during training"
I bet he didn't learn much in the krav maga episode :D
Greathoof 1 year ago
Wow, wing chun sure is the ugliest (probably most effective) fighting style...
martjalartistvannabe 1 year ago
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wing chun is a joke. If the wing chun punch was trully effective it would be seen in boxing or MMA? Why is it that 99.99999 % of all MMA fighters learn boxing as their main punshing art instead of wing chun? Probably because wing chun doesn't work.
sergiomex1234 1 year ago
ghost kick, i like that
sizzla123 1 year ago 3
By the way its either wing chun or wing choon and not wing TSUN!.. wing chun & wing choon was created a few hundred years ago .. wing TSUN - i have never heard of its originality..no wonder this episode never showed on TV after the FQ guys found out they got screwed
Terryltk 1 year ago
if that was wing chun, all the wing tsun guys should go learn boxing! and the sparring in this episode is a joke - the wing tsun guy got beaten -so much for the straight punch.. so i am saying the real wing chun is not the straight punch..what the wing tsun guys seem to be teaching is just do the straight punch and they punching like mad ppl..so i am saying that's not the traditional wing chun.
Terryltk 1 year ago
i dont see any wing chun in that sparring..i just see people just keep throwing fast punchespunches...
groovyome 1 year ago
FQ has gone to the wrong wing chun school, all the episodes i am looking at is just sparring sparring sparring.. traditional wing chun is not like that..sorry this LT wing tsun lost it, this is not the traditional way.
Terryltk 1 year ago
@Terryltk
Yes, but the traditional way is also not:
- Going to a foreign country for a week.
-Training 4 days and nights, as a complete beginner.
-Sparring on the last day, against two well trained fighters.
-Leave and repeat somewhere else.
llunchbox 1 year ago
I really like how humble these two are.
Tenchijk 1 year ago 2
black guy?
ericown 1 year ago
One of the most serious defects of Leung Ting's system is the placement of >80% of the body weight on the trailing leg. We can see the result in this clip- the LT student bobs his head back A LOT trying to dodge. That is not controlling the line!
If my observation is incorrect, then how can a boxer having less than a week's exposure beat the LT student at his own game? The message is Why pay years of tuition? You can master Leung Ting's system in under a week.
DizzyDerwish 1 year ago 2
@DizzyDerwish who cares to master his system when what he is teaching is not even applicable - who cannot make a straight punch? why did his student lose to the boxer? the answer is easy - the student has learnt the wrong principles and what he practised has been wrong - this means his master know nothing. If based on a few "principles" he thinks he know wing chun or other martial art - then he is ignorant.
Terryltk 1 year ago
Yes, he is Tong Man Loong, a hk actor~
very good looking guy =)
howardkin 1 year ago
I swear the translator guy is a famous HK actor! Anyone know his name?
mooonkayy 1 year ago
why does this moron continue to pronounce it whing chunG?
Wingchunkangaroo 1 year ago
Sifu Kong is very very impressive, and importantly very realistic as well as being extremely likeable and humble. One of the best teachers I've ever seen. Thank you for the upload.
front131 1 year ago
I wish I could see Mike sparring with Doug!
Xialung 2 years ago
@nathanbilly592 iv taken boxing for 4 years and wing chun for 3 weeks and i can tell you wing chun is better for a street fight. boxing is better in mma tho. wing chun rocks
jaredg613 2 years ago
I love the way the master says Douccch (Doug)
TS6DK 2 years ago
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hungfayi1 2 years ago
grand master seems chillin
jandaman123 2 years ago
I really like the way Sifu Kong's school spars. They seem to go much harder and they use headgear, so not as much holding back.
Great to see some traditional still being trained like that.
WarriorBoy 2 years ago 6
Sifu Kong seems pretty direct... and applying in real world situation.
siuabc 2 years ago 3
tong man longgggg
ShoyruDrag0n 2 years ago
they are all over the place at 3:48 = )
jujitsu34 2 years ago
Anyone else notice how they are ALWAYS getting some sort of injury before every fight? o_O
JuniorArtist27 2 years ago 68
Not always.
ReielSC 2 years ago
Almost always.
JuniorArtist27 2 years ago
welcome to intense martial arts training. If you train really hard nonstop for five days, you can get injured.
SolRosenberg84 2 years ago
I know that, I do BJJ, Boxing and used to do Taekwondo. In training you can get injured I'm just saying I find it odd how they keep getting a injury right before their final fights.
JuniorArtist27 2 years ago 2
cant blame then, i would be dead if i am in their position before the fight
lain777 2 years ago
Yes normal people would but one of them is a MMA fighter and the other is a ex-military solider. The training there would exhaust the hell out of us and leave us with injuries but you'd think someone with their level of training could go to at least one place without getting a injury. Some of them are way more brutal like that Krav Maga but others aren't that bad.
JuniorArtist27 2 years ago 3
pritty much lol
thefinalranger 2 years ago
@JuniorArtist27 they have each gotton like 1 injury shut the fuck up
Mustakrakiish 1 year ago
@Mustakrakiish
Exactly how many injuries would it takes for JuniorArtist27 to un-shut the fuck up, in your expert opinion?
hanasar 1 year ago
@hanasar oh boy nice comeback
Mustakrakiish 1 year ago
@Mustakrakiish
And exactly how many injuries, in your expert opinion, would it take for JuniorArtist27 to un-shut the fuck up?
hanasar 1 year ago
@hanasar how many posts until u un-suck at the internet u fucken fag
Mustakrakiish 1 year ago
@Mustakrakiish
No idea, oh Angry One. I'm new to the whole youtube-comment-posting thing. Plus I'm not here often enough.
hanasar 1 year ago
@JuniorArtist27 Knee injuries are kinda common in Wing Tsun. It's a style of Wing Chun, wich has more weight on one leg than the traditional styles have. If you have the wrong angle with your knees to your hip, you WILL get an injury. Normally, the sifu tells you how to angle yourself in the first lesson to avoid that, but Leung Ting seems to have missed that...
tsi2568 1 year ago
@JuniorArtist27 Yeah its kinda bound to happen when you watch threw the episodes you can see the bruises and swelling , why dont you go try One of these fighting style's at a black belts pace when your a beginner ... even better dont do it for 5days like these try 2 you would FAIL
whatugundo 1 month ago
do anyone other than me realise that the student translator is not translating anywhere near what the instructor is saying?
lain777 2 years ago 43
haha yeah its like he only translates 20% of what the sifu says. XD
ChineseinCanada 2 years ago 4
haha, ye. his english is gd but duno bout his chinese, or probably he has an attitude
lawker777 2 years ago
@lain777 20 people speak chinese and english who just happened to see this video?
IamHueGraves 1 year ago
is the hong kong actor tong man long(唐文龙） also learning wing chun?
cavinchon1 2 years ago
This guy has an open mind and a genuine respect for the art. He is learning much in a short time.
getthis22 2 years ago
HEAVY METAN DEMON WING CHUNG.
skanemermaid 2 years ago
LOL Slow mo getting dressed hahaha
ANZACJugger0 2 years ago
the "sparring" is not actually sparring its just a drill to practice angling and chain punches. wingchun does not have sparring
houstonrocketsfan8 2 years ago
ARE YOU BEINg THE FUCK FOR REAL?!?!?!?!?!!!!!! ExileCanadaMetal and every one else just stop with all the bitchin this...this ExileCanadaMetal fucker OBVIOUSLY thinks that the band is the shit (in fact they are shit) saying any thing to them wont matter they'll just keep going on defending something that shouldn't even be!! Ive studied both wing chun and hapkido both excelent styles unless you know the martial arts then dont bash them. (bunch of bull)IF you wanna hear REAL metal try Dir En Grey
DirugazeXD 2 years ago
didnt see a single bong sau
azndude108 2 years ago
what the hell is wrong with u pple arguing over a documentary reviewing the art of wing chun. pls! argue somewhere else!
teddytj91 2 years ago 2
funny how people say " this is not WC" "where is this where is that."...then what the hell is WC if someone is specting to see the stuff from demos and movies guess what aint happening. it will always look a little rough or like a brawl because fights are alive and not set with predictability
cuevasdecamuy 2 years ago
how on earth is this wing chun? Looks like wild flailing...no traps, no angulation, the straight blast is all wrong...oy
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
are you a wing chun practitioner? would you know what it looks like?
if you are then you are obviously being trained be a fraud, if youre not then shut up and enjoy the video.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
Yes I was and no I won't shut up and oh one more thing - FUCK YOU
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago 2
you were? i guess you didnt last more then one training exercise. you obviously never practiced a martial art, so buddy just stop acting like you know what youre talking about.
and no thanks.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
I've practiced more martial arts than u can imagine. U dunno what ur talking abt and no one asked for ur opinion. Butt out. Fuck yourself instead.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
im not really imagining anything. im just being realistic. and i wasnt really butting into anything its a public website that has a commenting section. if you dont like my comment to you dont respond and just shut up.
its funny all you can say is fuck you and fuck yourself to me. im guessing intelligence runs low in your family.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
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MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
you can continue to cry about how intelligent you think you are but you have yet to prove other wise.
i suggest growing up very quickly.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
Oh shut up. Stick with crap you're good at, like making shitty music.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
nah ill keep insulting you with intelligent responses.
stick to what youre good at reading pop up books and playing mortal kombat as if you are the character who knows martial arts.
=)
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
good keep doing that. Like I give a shit. You got nothing else going on in your loser life anyway. I'm sure something will take off when you're 80.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
well if you didnt give a shit you wouldnt use insults and you wouldnt respond.
also i got alot going for me i take martial arts i actually am intelligent unlike you, and i got a cd out with my band.
what have you done besides play with your self in your parents basement?
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
I bet those CDs make nice coasters for my drink. Send me a stack and I'll use em at the next happy hour. Way to jump on the bandwagon at the age of 50. ooh Scary talents. Good luck making shit.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
well im not 50 so again you show the lack of intelligence you claim to posses.
hey you buy the cds i could care less what you use them for. as long as youre dumb enough to pay 12 bucks for a coaster be my guest.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
wow u don't look a day over 50 though. How do u do it. Old fart music. I'll give you 12 logs of shit instead. That's gotta be worth more than the costs and effort you put in. I could take them and play it at the insane asylum and comatose ward. They won't mind.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
well thats generous of you. but i think you should probably spend more time reading a book and seeing the world beyond the basement of your parents house and live life instead of acting like a know it all and tough guy online.
and i know i dont look a day over 50 since im not 50 also i didnt know metal was old fart music..............
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
I think you should stick your all your shit CDs in your ass till it bleeds. Better to be a tough guy than a tough girl like you. Metal? Don't make me laugh. Keep patting yourself on the back for that miserable screeching crap you call metal. You're just a has-been, correction never-been, who thinks he's good. Grandpa....
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
haha what ever you say buddy. im 21 dumb ass thats far from being a grandpa.
second im not like you are any one of your family members i dont like sticking things up my ass.
btw we actually sing in the band maybe if you did actually listen to it instead of saying my band is shit when you havent even heard it is just absurd.
you comment on things you have no idea about. wing chun and my band.. grow up
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
i did listen and now i'm deaf and on a suicide watch. My plants wilted and died and my hamster shot himself. Satanic Grandpa Loser music does this to people. Oh 21? Then you're the youngest loser to ever walk the earth. Kill yourself it's hopeless. Join the convent or something. You're washed up.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
you cant even throw good insults at some one.
try a sentence that actually sounds intelligent.
well if youre on suicide watch please listen to it again.
well im not the youngest loser to walk the earth i think you got me beat there.
youre really pathetic.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
ur right, I should throw shit at you instead
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
well i dont believe in satan. second im playing music for fun who gives a shit if i make or not besides you?
haha youre the real loser trying to insult people since youre insecure about your pathetic life.
you prove my point over and over. im done BYE!!!!!!
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
also im not a satanist buddy. far from it. im an atheist.
maybe you should think before you write.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
It doesn't matter. Satan still believes in you, especially Loser Atheists with dim music "careers" like you. It's ok. All you have to do is play your crappy music backwards so it makes sense and choke the shit out of your bandmates and your career will take off.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
jimmy took a wrong sifu, but still ok though
sild123 2 years ago
who really gives a shit if WSL is the best.. people from shithouse schools, or from no school at all can still kick someone's ass.
irai1984 2 years ago 2
the dude in the wife-beater is a bad translator
PhosChild 2 years ago
apparantly that dude is a famous actor in hong kong lol
S20021018 2 years ago
i know, i guess that's why he needs to show more skin
PhosChild 2 years ago
he looks kinda like nicholas tse
ryan97303 2 years ago
yes he did
Maniacssa08 2 years ago
your deluded
Maniacssa08 2 years ago
the office environment has always been my favorite place to practise sparring... :)
usbsol 2 years ago
Very closed and cramped, also you have to be mindful of your sensitive environment. This forces you to effectively use power in a delicate and tight space. :D
Yoruichi13 2 years ago
i like dougs mentality better, but both guys are cool. great episode
randyds5 2 years ago
ip man was very traditional
he would taught ip ching and ip chun everything he could of
have you ever seen ip ching in action??
Maniacssa08 2 years ago
where the tan sao bong sao fook sao wu sau ect ??
Maniacssa08 2 years ago
No i rather learn off the sons of yip man
anthrax255 2 years ago
how do they say they are focusing on centreline when the chain punches are starting and finishing on different points of contact?
this is poor wc
knowlesie90 3 years ago
WOW YOU MUST BE REALLY STUPID
badfoody 2 years ago
this show was good when they did their own commentary
aaboi 3 years ago
ya this narrator sucks
badfoody 2 years ago
This is really terrible lineage that they choose they should of used either Ip Ching or Ip Chung. i guess they used a wingchun school that they can at least spar and stuff for television purposes.
anthrax255 3 years ago
there is so much more to wing chun than just storming in and chain punching.
kissmyfurrybutt01 3 years ago
hahahahahahaha!!!
"very pleased...
and he'll remember... you know...
for the rest of his life.."
xD HAHAHA so funny xD
sascorp 3 years ago
- use chi sau to find an opening THEN unload and beat the snot out of them. In other words, you don't have to enter with chain punches right off the bat...throw something in there, find the bridge - it's ok to chill out for a moment to get your bearings and let the enemy try (key word: TRY) to do something. Once that's done and you have control, you can feel for an opening and go for it. Could be the way they were training - it's hard to do it that way with those big gloves on.
Nephronial 3 years ago 2
2:24 "It's just two guys wailing away at each other"
That's why I can't fully get behind Leung Ting. I went to a Leung TIng school for about a year, and have seen a fair amount of his particular version of Wing Chun. "Wailing away at each other" pretty much describes his take on it. This is not to say I'm not down with the Leung Ting level of aggressiveness, but after a few years under a different lineage (Ip Ching) I try to apply it a little differently -
Nephronial 3 years ago 2
anyone notice the similarities between the ghost kick and the traditional gracie jiujitsu knee kick setup?
novan08 3 years ago
His Sifu said all of that? 5:27
Chinese is a very efficient language too! Lol
zachNewYork 3 years ago
michael tong got skillz, and besides, seems like sifu was talking way before then
jdude05 3 years ago
I need to fight a wing chun person to experience wing chun.
Bjjownsu10 3 years ago
if your in midlands uk there are a couple of great schools to come and train.
You'd love it :)
kissmyfurrybutt01 3 years ago
I agree with you that LT is bad, but...WC as a system when properly trained is anything but weak and pathetic. WSL folks know this all too well...
phama1978 3 years ago 5
seems like boxe not traditional wing chun, where is the inteligency martial arts over there? We know leuting came from Ip man, but this is what people dont understand,...that every one have the own style, and if u copy someone... u will be forever a bad copy.... jeet kune do its a Bruce lee expression, his body, mind expression of the wing chun...but the people doesnt understand that and try to be like him.. Or punch like this video, like boxe, kick and trhow all the body =P
nopapitcholico 3 years ago 2
there's no such thing as counting point and no wing chun punch and kick that count. That just stupid, a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. jeez, any punch that hit count and any kick that hit count.
DungHo51 3 years ago 3
Wing Chun should not spar like that, only sticky hand is wing chun sparring. Sparring like that doesn't train Wing Chun sense. Just make no sense
DungHo51 3 years ago
I completely though respectfully disagree, you have to learn how to fight outside a certain range as well as in. Chi sao is a great tool and the cornerstone of Wing Chun but honestly its not all that the art is.
Bastion83 3 years ago
I agree that free sparring must be a part of training in WC, but Chi Sao is not just for close range fighting! Chi Sao actually teaches the person how to fight long range as well among other benefits.. Though this might sound stupid it is true.. Just not all lineages understands that.. If you can't see how this is true please say so..
triancirc 3 years ago
bare in mind I havent trained it in a long(now do yang tai chi and northern shoalin) while though i do occasionally recieve lessons from my first sifu. Please, enlighten me.
Bastion83 3 years ago
Chi Sao is done in a circular way to cover all possible contact point among other benefits.. Simply said the hand going from Tan Sau to Bong Sau covers all possible attacks coming above your hand and the hand doing the Fook Sau covers all possible attacks coming under your hand.. Thats if ofcourse assuming one isn't chasing hands but pointing to the target(preferably along the center) which ofcourse has many benefits.. Keep in mind i am probably one of the worst students in my lineage..
triancirc 3 years ago
to me, there's is no long range fighting because if someone want to hit you they have to get their fist to you. In that sense it's short range or whatever you call it. Chi Sao is to deal with whatever come to you. The calmer you are the better you can deal with it.
DungHo51 3 years ago
I agree.. Then please allow me to replace long range fighting with before hand or leg contact as this is what i meant by long range..
triancirc 3 years ago
yes, I also agree. It's before contact we can it long range. Because in Wing Chun after the contact we do not want to let go or in other word "get unsticky". This is what sticky hand is training. Stick with the oponent because once you retrieve you've open up and you're more vulnerable to say the least. More comments are welcome.
DungHo51 3 years ago
To me sticking hands is a mean to hit the opponent so i don't want to stick with them.. If my arms meet with the opponent's arms either while countering or while attacking i try to remove that barrier and continue to hit the opponent.. This goes with one of the basic requirements of Wing Chun that says "intercept what come; pursue what departs; when the hands are freed of obstructions, attack indistinctively".
triancirc 3 years ago
we've finally disagreeing on something and I think that a good thing b/c this is where the learning and thinking start.lol. your wing chun saying is different than mine(well not mine but from my teacher, you know what i mean :). Mine is " Accept what comes, escort what goes, and when there's no obstructions..attack" .. So I'm not suppose to be afraid of the punch, after the contact stick with it, if the punch retract the oponent is force to be on defense b/c i will escort what goes,
DungHo51 3 years ago
and of course attack if there no obstruction. Because of this I see that in the video the way that they spar have little use in Wing Chun training. More like MMA or boxing.
DungHo51 3 years ago
However, there will be many wing chun people disagreeing with me because the way they learned it. Different teachers interpret the system differently and taught it differently. Because each hand in Wing Chun can be interpret differetn ways, different ideas arise from the system. We can see this as a beauty of art and not to agrue over it, just friendly discussion for more exposure to the art. The beauty is that the same hand can be use and differently but still have an effective result
DungHo51 3 years ago
I see different ways people interepret and use tan sau here and it still work. I don't agree with most of them but hey you must respect other martial artist. I come to agree most with the school and the line of Chu Tsung Tin. To me there are two approach to learning the system or maybe three. First is the external way, second is internal way, and maybe the three is mixed, but maybe mix is not a good idea
DungHo51 3 years ago
You don't have a clue...
davidg04 3 years ago
yo mama
nel3000 3 years ago
nice training for Doug.. What is the Sifu's lineage?
triancirc 3 years ago
Leuting came from Ip man:)
GnostosAgnostos 3 years ago
i meant Doug not Jimmy
triancirc 3 years ago
Yip Man ->
Au Chi Sing ->
Kong Chi-Keung
gudster 2 years ago