What if you ran a coper pipe from your radiator around your intake the heat of the radiator would take care of the problem ? Anyways you are a genius !! Great work
@901Jetta --- There is also other factors that contribute to the 3% figure that's not related to the fuel delivery system. Things like compression ratio, fuel quality, spark quality, etc. Even if the vehicle is a carbed vehicle there is no way that anyone would say a carb is 97% efficient. But what can you do, you can lead an idiot to the truth but you can't make him understand it.
@901Jetta --- "The Carburetor is said to be 97% efficient" is so funny, this guy needs to go back to school. The 3% combustion waste figure isn't even related to a carb'ed vehicle, its for a computer controlled fuel injection system. If carbs were that efficient they never would have needed fuel injection. Some people make me laugh so much. ROFLMAO
@901Jetta The page I sent you was only meant to be proof that I did not make up the 97% figure out of thin air.
If you look under engine loses it says combustion 3%. If the combustion loses are 3 percent then that means the carburetor is said to be 97% efficient. its just a different way of stating the same statistic.hope this helps.
@901Jetta I have not spun anything, you just cannot seem to follow the bouncing ball.Yes engines can be made more efficient. Aspiration(carburetors and such ) however is already at 97 percent efficiency. Take a look at where the energy is lost.Its not in combustion. Honestly you are either dim or willfully ignorant.You dont seem to be able to process information well. I understand if you disagree with the governments "facts" but you dont even seem to understand them.
@nsofast --- 97 percent efficiency? Tell that to the guys at MIT who invented the plasmatron. It thermally breaks down the fuel increasing its free H2 content. This allows for a cleaner burn more efficient burn saving up to 40% fuel, as reported by MIT. While at it tell that to the guys @ Mich Tech who tested the E3 spark plug, a faster burn give more power while using less fuel. This indicates that gains can be seen in the combustion chamber. As far as government facts go look at the losses
@BlackDogSociety Those are some pretty bold claims.Have they been peer reviewed? If so can you point me the right direction so I can do a bit of research?
@nsofast --- Here's a video for you, watch?v=JYq511CCSRQ in the description you'll see a link to a peer reviewed study showing gains in BTE using H2. You do know that BTE is the efficiency that matters not the 97% of the fuel burning figure you throw out there. The MIT links should still be in the comments on my channel, the E3 spark plug test came from this video. watch?v=6g-Zapk5brA. You can get more data from the E3 site. My numbers from my CAI mod speaks for itself...
@nsofast --- Part 2, shown on fuel economy dot gov site, you will clearly see that gains can come from many places. I have posted an average gain of over 10% but redesigning my CAI and adding a high flow CAT in my 94 ranger. watch?v=gIbIyd1_SnQ follow the links to my published data. Now if my redneck CAI can do that then whose to say what's possible....
@BlackDogSociety As shown on the website the gains in combustion are limited to 3%. The only data that I will accept is peer reviewed, sorry but there are just too many crackpots in the world to do anything else.
@nsofast --- Then that makes you a closed-minded fool doesn't it. Go ahead and research the stuff NASA did in the 70's. It the TE that matters not the percentage of fuel that's burnt...
@BlackDogSociety Cloesed minded? Because I demand proof? Most scientific papers ever written in the entire history of science ended up proven bogus and thats just the REAL science.That is why we have peer review.Even peer review is only one small step in proving things, we also need publicly repeatable experimentation. The reason this is so important is because humans are not objective.We are deeply flawed in that we often believe what we wish was true.
@nsofast --- No because you reject anything that doesn't fit your theory. Go ahead and do your research but I can tell you with your closed-minded attitude I already know what you are going to say. "The study is flawed because of this or that reason. The numbers from the gov are valid", ( where's their peer reviewed study BTW) . Did you know that another gov site points to another study showing gains of 4% using on-demand H2 O2 gas? A link to that site may be in my channels comments as well...
@BlackDogSociety On demand H2 O2 has been shown to be deeply flawed again and again.Therefore when evaluating another claim about them, it is very important to look at it very very skeptically. It is most likely BS. This is the attitude you should always take when taking in new information.So much of what we believe is not true as it is.
On a lighter note, I hope you will enjoy this Tim Minchin song /watch?v=RFO6ZhUW38w
@nsofast --- Nice song, on the flip side of "If you open your mind too much it will fall out" it is a song called "If close your mind all the time it will shrink from atrophy" We should all be somewhere in the middle.... There is plenty of data out there from a bunch of ideas that puts your 3% figure in question. Keep looking and you'll know what I and 901Jetta already know...
@nsofast, LOL, I just looked at what you posted again as well as the fueleconomy site you base your claim on. Just because they say 3% of the total losses comes from the combustion that doesn't mean it is impossible to see gains above 3%. Come on think about it...
@BlackDogSociety I did not say you could not get gains of more than three percent. All I am saying is that you cannot increase efficiency of an engine more than three percent by just hoping to burn more of the unspent fuel, which is as far as I can tell, the entire premise behind these vapor carburetors.
@nsofast --- This is an assumption on your part based on the 3% figure. It's not about the amount of unspent fuel, it's about the conversion of the energy to usable power out in the fuel that is consumed. The TE of the burn is not 97% efficient. Vapor carbs are about getting the fuel to burn faster thereby transferring more of energy to motion, a better TE. A faster burning fuel allows for leaner mixes and is usually cleaner.
@901Jetta I was hoping to inspire you to do some research(teach a man to fish and all that) but since you will not do it, here is just one government source showing that only three percent of gas is wasted during combustion.Nice picture and not a long boring article. I will try to get past the linkblock software.
fueleconomy (this is where the dot goes) gov/feg/atv (another dot goes here) shtml
@901Jetta I did not make that up.The fact that you have never heard the 97 percent stat shows you have not done your homework.Whether or not you believe it , that is a basic claim of the auto industry.
@901Jetta I did a little research, you should try it some time. Once you read the facts, I suppose you can decide that they are some bullshit scam by BIG OIL, but you need to start by knowing what the conventional wisdom is.
Today, fuel combustion in gasoline engines exceeds 97 percent. This means any improved carburetor would, at best, only be able to offer a 3 percent improvement in fuel economy
dude i you are on the track, watch the johnsearl flying dist thing,its get cold and can loose the gravity and flew in to the space,u are fucking with the quntum field of the matter,
I would like to see hot air coming from the exhaust to the intake of the carburetor, not the bunt mixture, but from a double sleeve from around exhaust pipes to help keep the carburetor from freezing and help vaporize the gas. heating the system before and after the carburetor.
To understand the results, it helps to know how the air conditioning system works.33 An air conditioner relies on a pump, sometimes referred to as a condenser, compressing a refridgerant liquid which, according to Boyles Law, causes it to heat up.34 I have a gut feeling.... this is the key to getting it to work correctly. Hope this gives you some ideas! Let me know... Hope your feeling better. Chris~KC
Okay Chief you got a carb icing problem, maybe you need to steal that carb heater off the airplane..what they do is heat the air going to the carburetor, not the carburetor itself. If the air is not hot before it hits the carb you might still have an icing problem. Of course you know that will richen the mixture as there is less dense air coming in. So that will only make your gas mileage worse. Okay so I'm new at what your trying to do here , what did the KIA get originally for gas mileage?
that was the air cooled engine, ya! Iv'e got 2 of those, But I was running the KIA that night, and it's not getting that hot like the bug got ???? half way to the carb it starts to cool, can't pull more vac. it starts to hurt the idle.
I too have 2 bug motors... I think your problem lies in that you are using an inline engine... the exost has a long way to go b4 it gets to the intake side. Where in the bug motor it gets exost right off the head and travels a short distance to the intake manifold. perhaps try insulating the exost between the exost header and the intake manifold so you loose less heat.
@indianchief741 hey buddy, do you know how incredibly simple it is to heat the gas before it goes into the carb to completely end these iced carb problems?????
Nice build! I hope you get better gasmileage with that!
I have built a simple watervaporizer that is mounted on my VW TDI, and I get about 10% better mileage with the vapour and additional 5% with a little hydrogen. It's about 0,2liter water/100km and about 150ml HHO/min.
You should try to get water vapour through that system in addition to the gasoline :-)
What if you ran a coper pipe from your radiator around your intake the heat of the radiator would take care of the problem ? Anyways you are a genius !! Great work
reniercosta 1 month ago
way dnt you try adding an extra spark to the exhaust might help heat it up
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michaelgtfour 4 months ago
@901Jetta --- There is also other factors that contribute to the 3% figure that's not related to the fuel delivery system. Things like compression ratio, fuel quality, spark quality, etc. Even if the vehicle is a carbed vehicle there is no way that anyone would say a carb is 97% efficient. But what can you do, you can lead an idiot to the truth but you can't make him understand it.
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@901Jetta --- "The Carburetor is said to be 97% efficient" is so funny, this guy needs to go back to school. The 3% combustion waste figure isn't even related to a carb'ed vehicle, its for a computer controlled fuel injection system. If carbs were that efficient they never would have needed fuel injection. Some people make me laugh so much. ROFLMAO
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety
bikr1975 5 months ago
@901Jetta The page I sent you was only meant to be proof that I did not make up the 97% figure out of thin air.
If you look under engine loses it says combustion 3%. If the combustion loses are 3 percent then that means the carburetor is said to be 97% efficient. its just a different way of stating the same statistic.hope this helps.
nsofast 6 months ago
Took a quick look at the study, already a few red flags but it will take me hours to really evaluate it. Perhaps I will have time this weekend.
nsofast 6 months ago
@901Jetta I have not spun anything, you just cannot seem to follow the bouncing ball.Yes engines can be made more efficient. Aspiration(carburetors and such ) however is already at 97 percent efficiency. Take a look at where the energy is lost.Its not in combustion. Honestly you are either dim or willfully ignorant.You dont seem to be able to process information well. I understand if you disagree with the governments "facts" but you dont even seem to understand them.
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- 97 percent efficiency? Tell that to the guys at MIT who invented the plasmatron. It thermally breaks down the fuel increasing its free H2 content. This allows for a cleaner burn more efficient burn saving up to 40% fuel, as reported by MIT. While at it tell that to the guys @ Mich Tech who tested the E3 spark plug, a faster burn give more power while using less fuel. This indicates that gains can be seen in the combustion chamber. As far as government facts go look at the losses
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety Those are some pretty bold claims.Have they been peer reviewed? If so can you point me the right direction so I can do a bit of research?
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- Here's a video for you, watch?v=JYq511CCSRQ in the description you'll see a link to a peer reviewed study showing gains in BTE using H2. You do know that BTE is the efficiency that matters not the 97% of the fuel burning figure you throw out there. The MIT links should still be in the comments on my channel, the E3 spark plug test came from this video. watch?v=6g-Zapk5brA. You can get more data from the E3 site. My numbers from my CAI mod speaks for itself...
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@nsofast --- Part 2, shown on fuel economy dot gov site, you will clearly see that gains can come from many places. I have posted an average gain of over 10% but redesigning my CAI and adding a high flow CAT in my 94 ranger. watch?v=gIbIyd1_SnQ follow the links to my published data. Now if my redneck CAI can do that then whose to say what's possible....
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety As shown on the website the gains in combustion are limited to 3%. The only data that I will accept is peer reviewed, sorry but there are just too many crackpots in the world to do anything else.
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- Then that makes you a closed-minded fool doesn't it. Go ahead and research the stuff NASA did in the 70's. It the TE that matters not the percentage of fuel that's burnt...
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety Cloesed minded? Because I demand proof? Most scientific papers ever written in the entire history of science ended up proven bogus and thats just the REAL science.That is why we have peer review.Even peer review is only one small step in proving things, we also need publicly repeatable experimentation. The reason this is so important is because humans are not objective.We are deeply flawed in that we often believe what we wish was true.
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- No because you reject anything that doesn't fit your theory. Go ahead and do your research but I can tell you with your closed-minded attitude I already know what you are going to say. "The study is flawed because of this or that reason. The numbers from the gov are valid", ( where's their peer reviewed study BTW) . Did you know that another gov site points to another study showing gains of 4% using on-demand H2 O2 gas? A link to that site may be in my channels comments as well...
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety On demand H2 O2 has been shown to be deeply flawed again and again.Therefore when evaluating another claim about them, it is very important to look at it very very skeptically. It is most likely BS. This is the attitude you should always take when taking in new information.So much of what we believe is not true as it is.
On a lighter note, I hope you will enjoy this Tim Minchin song /watch?v=RFO6ZhUW38w
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- Nice song, on the flip side of "If you open your mind too much it will fall out" it is a song called "If close your mind all the time it will shrink from atrophy" We should all be somewhere in the middle.... There is plenty of data out there from a bunch of ideas that puts your 3% figure in question. Keep looking and you'll know what I and 901Jetta already know...
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@nsofast, LOL, I just looked at what you posted again as well as the fueleconomy site you base your claim on. Just because they say 3% of the total losses comes from the combustion that doesn't mean it is impossible to see gains above 3%. Come on think about it...
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@BlackDogSociety I did not say you could not get gains of more than three percent. All I am saying is that you cannot increase efficiency of an engine more than three percent by just hoping to burn more of the unspent fuel, which is as far as I can tell, the entire premise behind these vapor carburetors.
nsofast 6 months ago
@nsofast --- This is an assumption on your part based on the 3% figure. It's not about the amount of unspent fuel, it's about the conversion of the energy to usable power out in the fuel that is consumed. The TE of the burn is not 97% efficient. Vapor carbs are about getting the fuel to burn faster thereby transferring more of energy to motion, a better TE. A faster burning fuel allows for leaner mixes and is usually cleaner.
BlackDogSociety 6 months ago
@901Jetta I was hoping to inspire you to do some research(teach a man to fish and all that) but since you will not do it, here is just one government source showing that only three percent of gas is wasted during combustion.Nice picture and not a long boring article. I will try to get past the linkblock software.
fueleconomy (this is where the dot goes) gov/feg/atv (another dot goes here) shtml
nsofast 6 months ago
@901Jetta You say I make you laugh your ass off and yet you act all buthurt and say we are done...
I love the way you always reply to my posts with ad hominem attacks and say I am wrong but never talk about the substance of what I am saying.
nsofast 6 months ago
@901Jetta I did not make that up.The fact that you have never heard the 97 percent stat shows you have not done your homework.Whether or not you believe it , that is a basic claim of the auto industry.
nsofast 6 months ago
@901Jetta I did a little research, you should try it some time. Once you read the facts, I suppose you can decide that they are some bullshit scam by BIG OIL, but you need to start by knowing what the conventional wisdom is.
Do you homework.
nsofast 6 months ago
Today, fuel combustion in gasoline engines exceeds 97 percent. This means any improved carburetor would, at best, only be able to offer a 3 percent improvement in fuel economy
nsofast 6 months ago
the Ford 2300 had a similar intake,ran heater hose through it,.....guess they had a similar problem.
jeepers2655 8 months ago
I'm waiting with baited breath man.
Really sorry to hear about your foot.
future2501 1 year ago
dude i you are on the track, watch the johnsearl flying dist thing,its get cold and can loose the gravity and flew in to the space,u are fucking with the quntum field of the matter,
sooriyaz 1 year ago
preheat intake heat is key
TheBlackirish7 1 year ago
I would like to see hot air coming from the exhaust to the intake of the carburetor, not the bunt mixture, but from a double sleeve from around exhaust pipes to help keep the carburetor from freezing and help vaporize the gas. heating the system before and after the carburetor.
does it make sense to you?
keep up the good work... congratulations.
atubero 1 year ago
Can't wait to see you back!!
afdhalatifftan92 1 year ago
To understand the results, it helps to know how the air conditioning system works.33 An air conditioner relies on a pump, sometimes referred to as a condenser, compressing a refridgerant liquid which, according to Boyles Law, causes it to heat up.34 I have a gut feeling.... this is the key to getting it to work correctly. Hope this gives you some ideas! Let me know... Hope your feeling better. Chris~KC
911truthseekers 1 year ago
i have 318i e36 m40 from dec 91
with 230000 km. i lightly moddified it and i get 17.7 km from every liter of fuel. and i live in holland now it's below freezingpoint
Welcome2SweetLife 2 years ago
Okay Chief you got a carb icing problem, maybe you need to steal that carb heater off the airplane..what they do is heat the air going to the carburetor, not the carburetor itself. If the air is not hot before it hits the carb you might still have an icing problem. Of course you know that will richen the mixture as there is less dense air coming in. So that will only make your gas mileage worse. Okay so I'm new at what your trying to do here , what did the KIA get originally for gas mileage?
YogiCub181 2 years ago
The Damn thing's only getting 16 MPG!!!!!what the hell!!!!
indianchief741 2 years ago
That seems very similar to the intake system on a type 1 VW 1600.
ColoradoKiter 2 years ago
that was the air cooled engine, ya! Iv'e got 2 of those, But I was running the KIA that night, and it's not getting that hot like the bug got ???? half way to the carb it starts to cool, can't pull more vac. it starts to hurt the idle.
indianchief741 2 years ago
I too have 2 bug motors... I think your problem lies in that you are using an inline engine... the exost has a long way to go b4 it gets to the intake side. Where in the bug motor it gets exost right off the head and travels a short distance to the intake manifold. perhaps try insulating the exost between the exost header and the intake manifold so you loose less heat.
ColoradoKiter 2 years ago
@indianchief741 hey buddy, do you know how incredibly simple it is to heat the gas before it goes into the carb to completely end these iced carb problems?????
Merry Christmas
Live long and prosper
tampicokeed 2 months ago
Nice build! I hope you get better gasmileage with that!
I have built a simple watervaporizer that is mounted on my VW TDI, and I get about 10% better mileage with the vapour and additional 5% with a little hydrogen. It's about 0,2liter water/100km and about 150ml HHO/min.
You should try to get water vapour through that system in addition to the gasoline :-)
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
Thanks for your video. Very entertaining. I'm really looking forward to seeing the new manifold work.
joewilder 2 years ago
Glad your back..
Thanks for the info, we'r thinking of putting a GEET type of system on a VW 1600cc. set up.
and see what kind of GPM we can get.
djdfromnj 2 years ago
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ashtweth 2 years ago
GEET school is starting up soon my friend we can help
ashtweth 2 years ago
Welcome back, thanks for you straight up commentary.
marthale7 2 years ago
Sorry about your ankle and foot problems hope all goes well with that. It wasn't the exploding tires that did it to you was it?
That was one funny video.
LarryMReed 2 years ago
Glad to see that you are on the geet system again.
egn83b 2 years ago 2