@StinksOnIce22 You might want to watch the video again. The pitcher wasn't on the mound. Keep in mind, that in Little League, high school, and pro rules the pitcher can be on the mound.
It's not a balk here because the pitcher is on the grass. The key to it NOT being a balk is that the pitch not be on the mound at all. If the pitcher is even standing on the edge of the mound clearly not on the rubber it's still considered a balk.
@StinksOnIce22 No that is not a balk. You can clearly see the pitcher is standing behind the mound the entire time. He does not ever touch the dirt of the mound...which makes it legal. No balk.
@StinksOnIce22 Your right on that. A pitcher cannot touch the dirt on any part of the mound without the ball after the previous pitch was thrown or previous play is over. But, he was standing on the backside of the mound and wasn't touching the mound so it wasn't a balk. We ran this play all the time in highschool and when i got to college. The runner was safe yes. But the ump called him out. Prolly one of the worst calls i have ever seen but it was a legit hidden ball trick. Works every time
this is why baseball should employ instant replay cause umpires are idiots. they know they are wrong and they don't have the decency to admit they are. I have no respect for baseball umpires. At least football refs try to correct bad calls with replay on the professional and collegiate level. I respect that. But baseball umps are the absolute worst. And if any ump wants to argue with me, bring it on.
I would be issed off if i was that team. In softball iw as running to first and the firstbaseman caught the ball then dropped it and he called me out i was llike wtf? she DROPPED it stupid umps.
it was not even close but in the defense of the ump it really is a hard call because fi they did it right chances are the ump, and every one else thought the pitcher had the ball so he had to pick it up late
that was a fine call...i remember watching it...perfectly executed by the pitcher and second basemen...second basemen never gave the ball to the pitcher...pitcher never put his foot on the rubber...baserunner took a lead despite the fact that the pitcher never had his foot on the rubber...second basemen tagged the runner...think of it like the previous play never ended...meaning the runner could have taken off at any time...the baserunner wasn't paying enough attention
The pitcher was on the dirt of the mound...it should of been called a balk as soon as he play happned..look at 140 the pitcher is on the back of the mound
that was not close at all. he was way safe. and what's the point of replay. i mean they have a 40 foot screen in center field that couldn't make the play mor obvious. just look at that screen.
I agree it was a prett bad call...not only was the runner caught off guard, even though he got back safely BUT the umpire got caugh off guard too...it happens..too bad it happened on a stage such as the CWS. BUT....the third basecoach has NO business being out there arguing with the umpire who made the call. That job is the duty of the head coach. The NCAA has made a point of this....arguments come from the boss...the head coach, not a base coach or pitching coach...etc.
Take a look at all the "bad call blue" videos. Many. Hold on a sec. though. I ump- hi school/college. I'm human and don't get every call right. But where are the videos of stupid coaches or base runners who make mistakes? We get lambasted - sometimes we deserve it. But WE CANNOT criticize a bad decision by the teams. Just last week a pitcher has a 1 run lead in bottom 9 with one on, 0-2 count. He throws a fastball right down the middle and the kid parks it for a walk-off. Stupid! Shhh!
IT doesn't mean anything that it's close. There are close plays at first every groundball. You don't call it safe, just because it's a trick play. The ump was taking a nap.
Either way, if these umps were smart they would call time after the play has been over, like you're supposed to do, so the runners and pitchers can get set for the next play. Otherwise it makes it look like the umpires were favoring the team in the field. I hate when they do that. And most umps I've seen in NCAA call time a little too early to begin with, now on this play it looked like they never called time before the previous play.
Not supposed to call time after a play is over. Calling time after every play, the game would be even longer. Just because they dont call time, doesnt mean the umps are favoring. Thats just fans perception. Coaches and players at this level are smart enough to know that. Yes the umpires miss calls, but not because of favoritism. We are instructed to keep the game moving. Call time only in certain situations. What, are umps supposed to call time so the SS can throw the ball back to the pitcher?
@Grapes428 You don't call time after every play. The ball remains in play unless there's a dead ball, foul ball, or called time. You should learn the rules better.
He was easily safe but I think the ump didn't know what was going on so he panicked and called him out. He probably did not want to act like a idiot and change his call (even though you cant change your call)
Sure the umpires can change their call. Heres how it works, if an umpire is 100% certain in his call, he will not solicit help. if he has doubt, he will. Typical example is a throw that pulls firstbaseman off the bag. Maybe a possible swipe tag, or pulled foot. The umpire tries to adjust the best he can, but because the way the play develops/finishes, may not have the ideal view. So he makes a call. If one team argues, the umpire MAY go for help, if he feels he may have been blocked, etc..
you never take your lead until the picther is on the mound, period. especially if the hidden ball trick has hapened earlier in the tournament!! but these old umpires need to wake up and pay attention, i dont think they have the attention span of a younger umpire.
He was safe, but...if you never take a lead until the pitcher is on the rubber, you will never be a victim of the hidden ball. The pitcher cannot take the rubber without the ball.
@jefft022 youre right the pitcher cant take the rubber without the ball, but you cant do a hidden ball trick unless the pitcher is off the mound completely. so yeah, if you stay on the bag till the pitcher is on the rubber youll be fine
@jefft022 yea good point, i got so any people as a pitcher with the ball in my hand an threw it to the 2nd baseman or center fielder and have been on the recieving end of a pick off move when the runner wasnt even paying attention
@jefft022 very well said, you know the rules exactally, in mlb you cant be on the rubber and in college and highschool you cant even be within a certain distance from the rubber or its a balk.
@jefft022 Technically speaking he can't even touch the mound...I've been called for a balk when i just walked around the edge. If I was that coach I would've pulled out the rule book and shoved it right in that umps face.
I don't think anyone has said it but: umpire fail, anyone?!? Waaay safe, plus you can't call something you don't see that's just how the game is played, secondly why would you take up position as the second base ump infront of the runner and second baseman?!? He was in no position to make the call, it's plays like this that necessitate video review of any and all calls in sports.
Hey since your such an experienced umpire why don't you show the umpire where hes supposed to be positioned! I am a college umpire...he is EXACTLY where he is supposed to be! Unfortunately in this situation he made the wrong call...thats the game of baseball, get over it! And by the way, those six guys are working the CWS because they are the best in the country! Everyone who sees the video can tell it was the wrong call, but don't comment on things you know nothing about!
it's kind of a dilemma, if baseball should review every play like this. obviously if every play is reviewed, there would be less arguments, but if every close play was reviewed then it could potentially make the games go on forever as if they aren't long enough
WOW. Really. I play baseball and we done do pitty crap like that. Plus the runner at 2nd was safe. Im not a fan of them but he was safe. Easy to tell. But yea wow.
I have a hard time believing the home plate umpire didn't see the play. He was looking right at second base when it went down. I'm guessing the coach appealed and he was shot down. Isn't that why they have an appeal to another umpire in the books?
umps usually dont overrule each other unless he was 100% certain the incorrect call was made. now the 2nd base ump wasnt even looking at the play and how can he make a call...he should've been reprimanded for this.
ha wow i just did that today i play in a league with 13 and 14 year olds and i did that against my lil couzin while he was on second bottom 7 2 outs...i had em out.... but didnt kno it was a balk if pitcher gets within a certain radius of the mond so he was actually safe i was madd it was funi though
It is impossible for a balk to be called if the pitcher is not on the rubber. If the pitcher is not on the rubber, he is considered to be a fielder and therefore it cannot be a balk by definition.
However, what if the pitcher is directly behind the rubber and pretends to simulate a pitch (i.e. lifting his leg as if to throw home). He is not on the rubber, but that is still a balk. I believe you mean if the pitcher is not on the MOUND, it is impossible for a balk to be called.
Ha this is the most illegal play in the book, this is probably the only way i've seen it done even remotely legal. The key here is that the pitcher cannot even REMOTELY imitate that he has the ball, it appears that he has bothe hands separated behind the dirt, so this is legal. However completely the wrong call to make, myself, as an umpire, when teams try this crap i call time and put everyone back on their base, if i don't see the play that is.
That is why you don't take your lead until after they put their foot on the rubber. I have been on first and people have tried it. I try to look into the first baseman's mitt if i can though. Never had somebody try it when I was on second.
idiot he was on the rubber, and as soon as he stepped off, the runner made his way back from what was a large lead to a 1 step lead, because if the pitcher was to have turned around and picked him off, he could have gotten back in one step. but it was a hidden ball trick. and even if he was on the bag when he was tagged, (which he was) it wouldnt have mattered because the dumb ass umpire wasnt looking at the play. he just thought it was a cool play so he decided to call the runner out. dumb ump.
One: guy was safe by a mile
Two: Its not a balk, you need to be touching the rubber to commit a balk, pitcher never was.
Three: 2nd base umpire has no reason to be looking in that direction, as it is a trick play, he should be looking where he thinks the ball is.
didget7 1 year ago 21
@StinksOnIce22 he's not even on the mound
bedswed 1 year ago
Who's the ump? Jim Joyce?
GuitarHeroMaster1125 1 year ago 3
@tgfabthunderbird not even bang bang
mothahen123 1 year ago
That umpire sucks really bad. That's a balk too he was on the mound partially.
HardcoreMuffinity 1 year ago
this is why baseball needs replay
MyDogIsCute100 1 year ago
the ump was looking at the hot chick in the front row...
clubleon1 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 . . . no balk, pitcher is clearly on the grass off the mound.
pob14 1 year ago
Worst part... that's a balk. Pitcher can't take the mound and prepare to pitch without the ball. It's deceiving the runners.
StinksOnIce22 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 THe pitcher isn't on the mound.
willolsson 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 u can see that the pitcher is still on the dirt so it cant be a balk yet
bprskimmer2 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 the pitcher was not on the mound. He was on the grass behind the dirt circle.
losall 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 You might want to watch the video again. The pitcher wasn't on the mound. Keep in mind, that in Little League, high school, and pro rules the pitcher can be on the mound.
redbird007 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 actually balk mean when the pitcher takes the mound even with the ball and steps off. its balk
1wacked 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22
It's not a balk here because the pitcher is on the grass. The key to it NOT being a balk is that the pitch not be on the mound at all. If the pitcher is even standing on the edge of the mound clearly not on the rubber it's still considered a balk.
jasonglenski 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 he didnt he was standing BEHIND the mound
momof2boys0810 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 He was in the grass so it was legal coaches always say take your lead when he steps onto the rubber
zach7118 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 Just saw this one - you might look at the replay again, the pitcher had not toed the rubber, he wasn't even on the mound.
dan1701a 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 Uhhhh no it's not, look again, he's not on the mound never mind the rubber.
pointybrendan 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 pitcher never took the mound
sleepdog06 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 the pitcher isn't on the mount, he'S behind it
olibeaudoin 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 You would be correct, except you can clearly see the pitcher isn't on the mound around :51, therefore it's not a balk.
Metallic7Dust 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22
The pitcher is not on the mound. Voted Down.
SDSUChemTA 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 No that is not a balk. You can clearly see the pitcher is standing behind the mound the entire time. He does not ever touch the dirt of the mound...which makes it legal. No balk.
Baseballman2K7 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 clearly he's behind the mound, not a balk... a blown call, yes, but not a balk.
hawklets03 1 year ago
@StinksOnIce22 Your right on that. A pitcher cannot touch the dirt on any part of the mound without the ball after the previous pitch was thrown or previous play is over. But, he was standing on the backside of the mound and wasn't touching the mound so it wasn't a balk. We ran this play all the time in highschool and when i got to college. The runner was safe yes. But the ump called him out. Prolly one of the worst calls i have ever seen but it was a legit hidden ball trick. Works every time
cwarrior3 1 year ago 2
@StinksOnIce22 he wasnt on the mound...
djc4n 1 year ago
What sport is this? Hidden ball trick? Seriously? Pretty lame. Glad Irvine didnt win that year.
seanaudi13 1 year ago 4
@seanaudi13 one of the funniest youtube comments ive read in a while.
corkery12 1 year ago
safe by a mile was uc irvine paying the ump?
mdad1234 1 year ago
safe by a mile
mdad1234 1 year ago
if they can do this in real life they should put this in MLB and NCAA baseball games to keep it real and keep u on ur toes.
MrKoolguy54 1 year ago
wow definitely safe
zedodd1773 1 year ago
That's bush league, if you were to pull that on my team, betting you our pitcher would peg him
AJG22PHILS 1 year ago
He was safe by a mile. Manieri, and the 3B Coach were right.
JCSCougar 1 year ago
sooooo safe!!!
chesterlovestimmy 1 year ago
NEVER take the lead until the pitcher is in the rubber
tubs6199 1 year ago
this is why baseball should employ instant replay cause umpires are idiots. they know they are wrong and they don't have the decency to admit they are. I have no respect for baseball umpires. At least football refs try to correct bad calls with replay on the professional and collegiate level. I respect that. But baseball umps are the absolute worst. And if any ump wants to argue with me, bring it on.
Mr508films 1 year ago
That kind of "play" shouldn't be allowed in baseball.
mysteriousSEGAfan11 1 year ago
@mysteriousSEGAfan11 Why not it keeps it fun..makes you aware..
Du30ke 1 year ago
That move is not a baseball play or a "strategic move", it's CHEATING and shouldn't be allowed.
mysteriousSEGAfan11 1 year ago
They get paid to make the right calls, and Watch sports games that people pay a lot of money to see, and yet these bs calls happen
sink3131 1 year ago
It was a tie...tie goes to the runner!
freakybro3 1 year ago
DJ LMahieu is a great baseball player...played against him multiple times
jburd999 1 year ago
At 1:37 way safe but LSU won UC Irvine you suck idiots
stubarnes14 1 year ago
the fielders sold it, did their job, tricked the ump, a beautiful part of the mental game
trickers13 1 year ago
I would be issed off if i was that team. In softball iw as running to first and the firstbaseman caught the ball then dropped it and he called me out i was llike wtf? she DROPPED it stupid umps.
sunbeanforever 1 year ago
it was not even close but in the defense of the ump it really is a hard call because fi they did it right chances are the ump, and every one else thought the pitcher had the ball so he had to pick it up late
cubsplayre 1 year ago
SAFE by a mile. Pause at 1:37 good view.
MarinesSemperFi100 1 year ago
@MarinesSemperFi100 he was safe, but i wouldnt call it a mile.
CodyOsteen5 1 year ago
I'm surprised some umpires do not get attacked, lol
rockndude87 1 year ago
Can't be on the mound
ahub39 1 year ago
that was a fine call...i remember watching it...perfectly executed by the pitcher and second basemen...second basemen never gave the ball to the pitcher...pitcher never put his foot on the rubber...baserunner took a lead despite the fact that the pitcher never had his foot on the rubber...second basemen tagged the runner...think of it like the previous play never ended...meaning the runner could have taken off at any time...the baserunner wasn't paying enough attention
BRADvsBR4D 1 year ago
The pitcher was on the dirt of the mound...it should of been called a balk as soon as he play happned..look at 140 the pitcher is on the back of the mound
easternrider2012 1 year ago
Pitcher puts his foot on rubber...you take lead.
I was 5 when I learned that. Good sell by UCI.
pullt 1 year ago
SAFE!!!!
msmjfreek 1 year ago
umps love to think when in doubt call him out its such garbage
RADAUSTINS27 1 year ago
wow he was SAFE!!!!
toadlicious 1 year ago
what call, ump wasn't looking! Great sell tho by UCI!
doofusmoo 1 year ago
I am a minor umpire. Usually I am by myself, I will use the players reactions only if I have to. But I do use them. Oddly never the coaches.
MrRippper 1 year ago
Hidden ball trick should be banned from the game. Almost impossible for an ump to see it unless he knows it's going to happen.
Baseball5030 1 year ago
he was safe
CTodd37 1 year ago
lol someone tried to do that to me and i had a three step lead and i dove right around the tag!!!!
LiveHaloLife 1 year ago
at :52 he is clearly safe
chadgreenway52 1 year ago
That's dirty
KJT922010T 1 year ago
that was not close at all. he was way safe. and what's the point of replay. i mean they have a 40 foot screen in center field that couldn't make the play mor obvious. just look at that screen.
MegaPwners 1 year ago 52
its alright LSU made up for it by winning the CWS :]
thumbs up!
Maldonado365 1 year ago
I agree it was a prett bad call...not only was the runner caught off guard, even though he got back safely BUT the umpire got caugh off guard too...it happens..too bad it happened on a stage such as the CWS. BUT....the third basecoach has NO business being out there arguing with the umpire who made the call. That job is the duty of the head coach. The NCAA has made a point of this....arguments come from the boss...the head coach, not a base coach or pitching coach...etc.
buckeyebryan10 1 year ago
GO LSU
flames423 1 year ago
Umpire had to make a call he was safe but it caUGHT THE UMPIRE OFF GUARD AS WELL
Rosetti103 1 year ago
safee
send2rahul 1 year ago
im a umpire aswell and i guess the ump waiting too long on the play so he let the players sold em the play ..... suck to be him dough ...
miguelreye1 1 year ago
Take a look at all the "bad call blue" videos. Many. Hold on a sec. though. I ump- hi school/college. I'm human and don't get every call right. But where are the videos of stupid coaches or base runners who make mistakes? We get lambasted - sometimes we deserve it. But WE CANNOT criticize a bad decision by the teams. Just last week a pitcher has a 1 run lead in bottom 9 with one on, 0-2 count. He throws a fastball right down the middle and the kid parks it for a walk-off. Stupid! Shhh!
dave0mary 1 year ago
@dave0mary ok but you guys possibly decide who wins. You would rather lose a game because off ur own mistake that an umpires mistake.
Oldcartoons571 1 year ago
I'm really getting tired of America's pasttime. Why do we have replay when we don't even use it???
usteeler81 1 year ago
@usteeler81 the human element is part of the game, hence the saying, "thats baseball"
SimpleStuff31 1 year ago
Safe, basemen wasn't even close, dumb ref.
usteeler81 1 year ago
he was safe, what umpire made the call is the question i would like to know
nrkyan 1 year ago
Ya he was safe
Beenee465 1 year ago
I love the trick one team tried that on me but my coach warned me so i was safe
1munman 1 year ago
Even if DJ was out the ump wasnt even looking at the play..he turned around and the kid playing second base sold it to the ump
MMAboss123 1 year ago
bad call blue that so dumb he was safe by a mile if ur actualy looking at the play
MegaBostonredsox 1 year ago
Safe, but it was a balk either way. Can be on mound without ball
tagbrooks 1 year ago
@tagbrooks its the rubber you can be on the mound
MrRCOLA 1 year ago
@MrRCOLA ...the pitcher can't be on the dirt period without the ball. If he is, it's a balk.
bayoubobby 1 year ago
That was no where near close.
Number 17 was safe.
Lady17Owl 1 year ago
lol i would have called him safe too... i mean that guy was bitchin!
paultheman697 1 year ago
Safe
S4mu3L01 1 year ago
IT doesn't mean anything that it's close. There are close plays at first every groundball. You don't call it safe, just because it's a trick play. The ump was taking a nap.
juliet97 1 year ago
that ump really likes uc irvine
henrytod 1 year ago
safe
jfurm333 1 year ago
actually.. you cant even step on the mound without the ball
mastercraftskier33 1 year ago
@mastercraftskier33 if you look the pitcher isnt on the mound he is just off the back
VistaV6Stang 1 year ago
safe
deerdog523 1 year ago
he safe no doubt
about36cheezeburgers 1 year ago
Safe
TwoCanFree 1 year ago
terrible call blue
zZBBZz100 1 year ago
obviously safe but thats wht u get when u dont how no how to play baseball when taking a lead off before u actually no who has the ball
zZBBZz100 1 year ago
It shouldn't have been that close. It is the runner's fault.
JoeyMac323 1 year ago
He was safe
nymets6986e 1 year ago
Either way, if these umps were smart they would call time after the play has been over, like you're supposed to do, so the runners and pitchers can get set for the next play. Otherwise it makes it look like the umpires were favoring the team in the field. I hate when they do that. And most umps I've seen in NCAA call time a little too early to begin with, now on this play it looked like they never called time before the previous play.
Grapes428 1 year ago
Not supposed to call time after a play is over. Calling time after every play, the game would be even longer. Just because they dont call time, doesnt mean the umps are favoring. Thats just fans perception. Coaches and players at this level are smart enough to know that. Yes the umpires miss calls, but not because of favoritism. We are instructed to keep the game moving. Call time only in certain situations. What, are umps supposed to call time so the SS can throw the ball back to the pitcher?
chuckfan1 1 year ago
@Grapes428 You don't call time after every play. The ball remains in play unless there's a dead ball, foul ball, or called time. You should learn the rules better.
taldanyah 1 year ago
you SHOULD NOT lead off if the pitcher isn't on the rubber
xiIIuziOnx 1 year ago
He was easily safe but I think the ump didn't know what was going on so he panicked and called him out. He probably did not want to act like a idiot and change his call (even though you cant change your call)
mrawesome789 1 year ago
Sure the umpires can change their call. Heres how it works, if an umpire is 100% certain in his call, he will not solicit help. if he has doubt, he will. Typical example is a throw that pulls firstbaseman off the bag. Maybe a possible swipe tag, or pulled foot. The umpire tries to adjust the best he can, but because the way the play develops/finishes, may not have the ideal view. So he makes a call. If one team argues, the umpire MAY go for help, if he feels he may have been blocked, etc..
chuckfan1 1 year ago
he was def safe, but he should know to never take a lead until the pitcher is on the mound. little league mistake.
Qboy316 1 year ago
It was just a matter of the play being surprising, so the umps called it out anyway. Terrible call.
mattador2792 1 year ago
lol bad umps can change a game but you know what, baseball will always have these kinds of plays until there are no umpires
8Dolohov 1 year ago
you never take your lead until the picther is on the mound, period. especially if the hidden ball trick has hapened earlier in the tournament!! but these old umpires need to wake up and pay attention, i dont think they have the attention span of a younger umpire.
TheCapeVerdeKid 1 year ago
Yeah, he was Safe.
Poorguypr 1 year ago
Horrible call. It wasn't close. Evidently the umpire wasn't paying attention either. Absolutely horrendous call.
MrOrigi 1 year ago
there was sum athority behind the hat slam at 0:16.
forumrider7c 1 year ago
He was safe. He got to the base before the glove touched his hip.
159yankees 1 year ago
safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fletch753 1 year ago
2:12 looks like fenway park
RedSoxNation92 1 year ago
umpire is on crack
crypto5000 1 year ago
UMPIRE FAIL!!!!!
noex100 2 years ago
He was safe, but...if you never take a lead until the pitcher is on the rubber, you will never be a victim of the hidden ball. The pitcher cannot take the rubber without the ball.
jefft022 2 years ago 65
@jefft022 correction- the pitcher cant be on the dirt of the mound without the ball
pcemsp1 2 years ago
In NCAA it's the rubber or astride the rubber. High School it might be the mound.
redverter 2 years ago
@redverter umm no its the mound in every league haha i play in the ncaa
Pntbll10xsh0cker 1 year ago
@pcemsp1 yeah he can?
hcpdrods 1 year ago
@jefft022 youre right the pitcher cant take the rubber without the ball, but you cant do a hidden ball trick unless the pitcher is off the mound completely. so yeah, if you stay on the bag till the pitcher is on the rubber youll be fine
Pntbll10xsh0cker 1 year ago
@jefft022 yea good point, i got so any people as a pitcher with the ball in my hand an threw it to the 2nd baseman or center fielder and have been on the recieving end of a pick off move when the runner wasnt even paying attention
Andrew112194 1 year ago
@jefft022 very well said, you know the rules exactally, in mlb you cant be on the rubber and in college and highschool you cant even be within a certain distance from the rubber or its a balk.
aaronpaul323 1 year ago
@jefft022 he cant even be on the mound
robman425 1 year ago
actually, the pitcher can not come into the dirt without the ball. Just letting you know
WheelerTyler07 1 year ago
@jefft022 What happens if they do w/o the ball?
Dylan6281 1 year ago
@jefft022 i thought you cant be on the dirt of the mound without the ball thats what they told me in travel ball
poppyseeds1823 1 year ago
@jefft022 Technically speaking he can't even touch the mound...I've been called for a balk when i just walked around the edge. If I was that coach I would've pulled out the rule book and shoved it right in that umps face.
doodle20 1 year ago
@jefft022 This is why there needs to be instant replay in baseball.
cubbs357 1 year ago 2
like the 'eaters
but hey
HE WAS SAFE
gopadres7 2 years ago
New rule, the hidden ball trick should be illegal!
buddaman200522 2 years ago
New rule the ump must watch the play's on the field
L30nh00d 2 years ago
stupid umpire he was safe
Dmytro772 2 years ago
SAFE at two!!!!
ART8910 2 years ago
weak umpire. grow some balls.
bensy010 2 years ago
I don't think anyone has said it but: umpire fail, anyone?!? Waaay safe, plus you can't call something you don't see that's just how the game is played, secondly why would you take up position as the second base ump infront of the runner and second baseman?!? He was in no position to make the call, it's plays like this that necessitate video review of any and all calls in sports.
Biswalt 2 years ago
Hey since your such an experienced umpire why don't you show the umpire where hes supposed to be positioned! I am a college umpire...he is EXACTLY where he is supposed to be! Unfortunately in this situation he made the wrong call...thats the game of baseball, get over it! And by the way, those six guys are working the CWS because they are the best in the country! Everyone who sees the video can tell it was the wrong call, but don't comment on things you know nothing about!
jarod1672 2 years ago
@jarod1672
Of course he is positioned correctly. Exactly where he needs to be.
But if you don't SEE the play you don't make the call. All he did was look at the reactions and guessed.
sunchips4 1 year ago
he was safe no doubt !
BudPeters44 2 years ago
it's kind of a dilemma, if baseball should review every play like this. obviously if every play is reviewed, there would be less arguments, but if every close play was reviewed then it could potentially make the games go on forever as if they aren't long enough
etb76 2 years ago
Time wasn't called before the trick.
PGOLDEN88 2 years ago
Doesn't matter. His foot was on before the tag.
gotchabari 2 years ago
nice
kornflekes 2 years ago
WOW. Really. I play baseball and we done do pitty crap like that. Plus the runner at 2nd was safe. Im not a fan of them but he was safe. Easy to tell. But yea wow.
ttwepyro 2 years ago
way to go ump. Terrible call.
Ryanskates09 2 years ago 43
Give the umpire a break, who would expect a little league play like that in the CWS?
chrislane1986 2 years ago
for real
ColdHearted 2 years ago
That was the second time in the SAME tournament.
maxphi 2 years ago
SAFE!!!!!!!
footballchamp100 2 years ago 2
dont gotta say its safe over and over..... any1 could see that he was safe
NDslicknick 2 years ago
safe
The24Baseballman 2 years ago
they should do instant replay
satysal1 2 years ago 2
SAFE!!!
extrmefreak21 2 years ago
safe
mario123454 2 years ago
thats not even close he was safe! no doubt!
FishKing30 2 years ago 2
Bad call, but LSU won the series anyway because they are better. LSU National Champs!!!
rpg37 2 years ago
I have a hard time believing the home plate umpire didn't see the play. He was looking right at second base when it went down. I'm guessing the coach appealed and he was shot down. Isn't that why they have an appeal to another umpire in the books?
ThirdTerm 2 years ago
umps usually dont overrule each other unless he was 100% certain the incorrect call was made. now the 2nd base ump wasnt even looking at the play and how can he make a call...he should've been reprimanded for this.
hayjamawas 2 years ago
How do you know the umpire wasn't reprimanded?
dfwmale61 2 years ago
the umpire just wanted the trick to work i saw him safe from the worst possible views
Rosetti103 2 years ago
Uhh...safe by a freaking mile, I would say.
ThirdTerm 2 years ago
Typical West Coast baseball play
esschucks 2 years ago
he was safe but you got to give the players some credit for that dirty trick.
Gr3a4nt 2 years ago
Clearly he was safe that was pathetic
TPM75108 2 years ago 3
they would have actually gotten him out if the second baseman waited until the runner was more than 12 inches off the bag
jameslondon22 2 years ago 2
pause it a 52 seconds. hes safe.
hockeyscrapper22 2 years ago
that call sucked
ojfreak4life 2 years ago
ha wow i just did that today i play in a league with 13 and 14 year olds and i did that against my lil couzin while he was on second bottom 7 2 outs...i had em out.... but didnt kno it was a balk if pitcher gets within a certain radius of the mond so he was actually safe i was madd it was funi though
bcbadbrad 2 years ago
It is impossible for a balk to be called if the pitcher is not on the rubber. If the pitcher is not on the rubber, he is considered to be a fielder and therefore it cannot be a balk by definition.
obaumpire42 2 years ago
everybody is wrong it is a balk if you get on the mound without the ball not the rubber, believe me evryteam i have been on made that mistake.....
mryess 2 years ago
However, what if the pitcher is directly behind the rubber and pretends to simulate a pitch (i.e. lifting his leg as if to throw home). He is not on the rubber, but that is still a balk. I believe you mean if the pitcher is not on the MOUND, it is impossible for a balk to be called.
Sox60561 2 years ago
Ha this is the most illegal play in the book, this is probably the only way i've seen it done even remotely legal. The key here is that the pitcher cannot even REMOTELY imitate that he has the ball, it appears that he has bothe hands separated behind the dirt, so this is legal. However completely the wrong call to make, myself, as an umpire, when teams try this crap i call time and put everyone back on their base, if i don't see the play that is.
guitarplaya2007 2 years ago
Hahaha my team did that and it fooled me too I didn't understand what was happening until I saw the ball in the first baseman's mitt
xxxChriChrixxx 2 years ago
the second baseman broke to earlt anyway. You have to wait untill they get a bigger lead and catch them in a run down
jimunite 2 years ago
That is why you don't take your lead until after they put their foot on the rubber. I have been on first and people have tried it. I try to look into the first baseman's mitt if i can though. Never had somebody try it when I was on second.
jimunite 2 years ago
idiot he was on the rubber, and as soon as he stepped off, the runner made his way back from what was a large lead to a 1 step lead, because if the pitcher was to have turned around and picked him off, he could have gotten back in one step. but it was a hidden ball trick. and even if he was on the bag when he was tagged, (which he was) it wouldnt have mattered because the dumb ass umpire wasnt looking at the play. he just thought it was a cool play so he decided to call the runner out. dumb ump.
ojfreak4life 2 years ago
You can clearly see that the pitcher was no where near the rubber. He was standing on the back side of the mound!
300Z31 2 years ago
the runner did get back to the base on time. the hidden ball trick is bound to cause fights so i hate that play
ggfhock26 2 years ago