Antic macedonians are not greek, but also they are not slavic :)
Slavic people have occupied the territory of antic macedonians around 500 A.C.
The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
world but i can prove your evidence wrong because macedonians shared 2 things with greeks language and beliefs you so called macedonians lack language greek language throught this two things greeks kept their identity althouth probably not biologicaly at least ethnically which give me the right to call myself greek and your so called people FAKE
called macedonia and its people are sons of alexanders soldiers the ones who murdered alexander the great well this is the history i was taught and it is probably biased and i cant guarantee that im greek since so many wars were waged and so many blood mixtures were made throughtout history and you could even call your selfs alexanders sons but that would make you greeks that you so much hate us dont get me wrong im not a racist but just a stupid 13 years old fool that things he can change the
that he would be able to do it on he΄s own so he went on to unite all greek people some refused but were forced to throught wars so he waged a war against persia and started conquering it and recovering all lost land but he dint only conquer it but also other places like egypt and some northern lands alaxanders soldiers were left to take care of the lands while he conquered more and more land when he died without any but one son witch was also murdered these soldiers divided the land so your so
well im going to give you guys a history lesson about alexander the great and your so called macedonia first of all persia was an empire that waged wars against greece or rather the greek people throught the lands of the now called greece i could give details but im really bored so after some years philip a greek king waged wars to conquer the land of the now called macedonia and its people he died but he had a dream vengeance which then by hes fathers death alexander the great took on he decide
Vardar Macedonia (Macedonian and Serbian: Вардарска Македонија, Vardarska Makedonija; Bulgarian: Вардарска Македония, Vardarska Makedoniya) is the north-western area of the Macedonia region. The borders of the area approximately coincide with modern day Republic of Macedonia. The name references the river Vardar, which flows through the area.
this nicpetowski was born in 1820 and before.. that explains hiw greta knowledge of hellenic history!!!! reading fake bfyromina books written in 1995 know everything too bad for a dying child.. soon this face state will be divided in 3
1:54 Basil the macedonian ??? Is thst the same Basil who had wars with Samuil - Another Macedonian king ???? So acordinc to this We shal conclude that those wars were Macedonian civil wars? :)))))))) Do you get the noncence? :)))))
Another fact that proves that Macedonia was only a terrytorial term, not a country, and there were no etnic macedonians, macedonian nation or kingdom at that time.Samuil was Bulgarian king
Oh, I forgot, he used to pray to Allah at the Muslim Mosque in the center of the Macedonian capital, Skopje... He used to boast that he is descendant of Mongols and he used to be very proud of his Slavic origin.
When he attended the Olympic Games in Greece, he was only allowed to participate because he was Slav and only Slavs were allowed to participate in Olympic Games.
Also, his mother Olympia, was not an Epirote, she was Albanian that lived at that time in the Caucasus region!
Yes, exactly! Alexander the Great spoke Serbian language. He was brother of Bulgarians and he was brought here to the Balkans along with the other Slav people of his kin.
He is a proud brother of Attila the Hun and of the Bulgarian Kings. The capital of Macedon was in Skopje and the burial place was called Strumice. Right?
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars have brainwashed their children consistantly through the ages.
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars will cheat and lie and do the unthinkable to achieve the link to Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
Some Yugoslavs believe in the existance of a secret vault in Germany containing ancient Macedonian parchments, which proves that the ancient Macedonians were protoSlavs.
Some Yugoslavs believe that they are the Makedonoids, the proto white race, which spawned Slavdom.
Some Yugoslavs believe that the rosetta stone is engraved with an ancient Macedonian script.
Some Yugoslavs believe that the Bucharest treaty has an expiry date, come 2012 they automatically inherit the whole region (ancient and modern) of Macedonia.
Yugoslavs have taught their children lies and half truth's, they have brainwashed their children to believe in a sick and twisted form of ethnogenesys, which links Slavonic peoples to the ancient Maceonians of antiquity.
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars believe that they are all related to the ancient Macedonians through the Fyromians.
kaurin is christian & look & other doccuments, not only that what your chauvinists show you because that is not objective looking of the history & history is not like bible like your politicians show you, & it is not like poetry like your chauvinistic nationalistic books what sellect only that facts what they want!!
Hey, FYROMians (=fake Macedonians), copy and Google this:
"Letter to President Barack Obama", Macedonia international scholars
And see what more than 250 INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS have to say. Then think and try to learn, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism... And remember,
Hey, FYROMians, do you want to become REAL Macedonians? Here is how:
1.
Stephen G. Miller, Professor Emeritus, University of California, Berkeley:
"Allow me to end this exegesis by making a suggestion to resolve the question of the modern use of the name "Macedonia". Greece should annex Paionia (FYROM), that is what Philip II did in 359 B.C."...
..."And that would appear to be acceptable to the modern residents of that area (FYROM) since they claim to be Greek by appropriating the name Macedonia and its most famous man. Then the modern people of this new Greek province could work on learning to speak and read and write Greek, hopefully even as well as Alexander did."
The proud Yunanistanian accuses someone of stealing history, you poor little boy Alexander was Macedonian like it or not, I don't give a fuck the only thing I know is that I am MACEDONIAN and you are YUNANISTANIAN.
ofcurse you stealing my history you are not makedonian you speak mix of servobulgarian end not greek .sparta stil exist greece or younanistan is the same .the first is of western europe the second is of asia end midle east
hahah.i want to ask something to the stupid person who made this video.why the whole maps and blablabla are after 1900? monkeydonians dont even know that macedonia exists centuries ago?they dont have any proof or monument in their language from that period.everything is on greek.and i am sorry,everybody knows that there is macedonia, and macedonians,it's not new, but these persons are not you (the monkeydonians),How stupid and brainwashed persons. Former Albanian Repuplic of Monkeydonia FAROM
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
what is interesting that the background music in the video clip sounds very Greek to me. If the Skopians are so adamant that they are different, why don't invent another language which is not Slav in origin. The audacity and stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.
..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these 'radical Slavic factions' decided to live with their myths and lies for the constant amusement of the rest of the world!"
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Poor FYROMians, heavy propaganda victims, history rappers, INTERNATIONAL JOKE!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and
Read below and for your own good try to learn, FYROMians, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism! Other ways just be pathetic and swear again and again because that's the only thing you can do best, since you are jealous and hate Greece and Greeks because deeply you know very well that, since ancient times, MACEDONIAN, THEREFORE GREEK!
"At this the Bulgarians,were still dwelling to the north of Haemus. But in the early ninth century, under Kroum (803-814), they made raids on Thrace; and later under Simeon (893-927) Bulgarian hordes entered Macedonia, advanced to the walls of Constantinople in the east and even reached the Corinthian coast to the south. These hordes caused much devastation but they did not change the ethnological character of the regions they plundered."...
..." Greeks not only predominated in the towns but in the country-side, for the Slavic settlers had never at any time displaced completely the original populations."
("The Greek struggle in Macedonia, 1897-1913", Institute for Balkan Studies, 1993)
"But even stranger is the name "Macedonians", which was imposed on us only 10 to 15 years ago by outsiders and not as something by our own intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced: they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other Bulgarians."...
..."You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the "Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to as the "Shopski language"."
(Kuzman Shapkarev, in a letter to Prof. Marin Drinov of May 25, 1888 (Makedonski pregled, IX, 2, 1934, p. 55; the original letter is kept in the Marin Drinov Museum in Sofia, and it is available for examination and study)
"I have even met people who believe there is a special race which they call 'Macedonian', whose 'cause' they wish to aid. The truth is, that in a district which has no official frontiers, and never has had any stable ones, there are people of six races, who, as we have seen, all have causes to be considered [...] I shall speak only of the part I have stayed in- the districts of Lakes Ochrida and Prespa."...
..."Here there are Greeks, Slavs, Albanians, and Vlahs. Of Turks, except officials and such of the army as may be quartered on the spot, there are few. The Albanians, I believe, are all Moslem. Should there be any Christians they would be officially classed as Greeks. A large part of the land near Lake Prespa is owned by Moslem Albanians as "chiftliks" (farms)." (Edith Durham, "The Burden of the Balkans", 1905, p. 76)
during ottoman empire and balkan wars macedonia was a term to describe a geographical region.this region was inhabited by ethnic greeks bulgarians jews and turks(guess who you are..).all these sarerate ethnicities of macedonia could be called as a whole:macedonians as like the greeks of thrace can be called thracians.
yes i cant say that i disaprove this video you are a saperate nation from bulgars the last 60-100years.this is the truth.you have no connection with the ancient greek macedonians.before balkan wars or 1900 you are never depicted as saperate ethnicity.then gradually your ethniciy discriminated and became sarerate from bulgarian..
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds themis an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The Macedonian language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these radical Slavic factions decided to live with their myths and lies for the constant amusement of the rest of the world."
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Macedonians had the same language, the same religion, used the same names, served the same arts, used the same architecture, the same heroes, the same customs, the same rituals, the same traditions, the same myths, and olympic games patricipation as all other Greeks!!! Macedonians were (and are) Greeks.
@koutroubidis They had almost the same culture as the other peoples in the region, Macedonians had own language and letters. Higher class people like generals, teachers could speak koine language and write. Macedonians had monarchy acnient greeks "democracy". Had same gods as the other peoples in the region. Same as todays religion is the same. Macedonians attended Olimpic games since Filip threts. Before that they were banned from the games as they were barbarians and not Geeks.
"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". - Strabo
"It is historically proven that the Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia was created by Stalin, Tito and Dimitrov, aiming at the stealthy removal of a large part of Northern Greece. This Republic was used during the period 1944-1949 in order to destabilise Greece" -- US deputy Foreign Minister Mr. Thomas Niles
"Evidence of Macedonian existence"!! Hahahah!!! Here, take a GOOD look:
Krste Misirkov, philologist and publicist, one of the founders of the "Macedonian" nation, considered a national hero in FYROM:
"We are more Bulgarian than those in Bulgaria."
"We speak a Bulgarian language".
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
FYROMian friends, heavy propaganda victims, dont be history rappers!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BCE to 454 BCE:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
Implementation of high-resolution typing methods allows a significantly wider spectrum of HLA variation to be detected, including rare alleles and haplotypes,and further clarifies the origin of Bulgarians
Phylogenetic and correspondence analyses showed that Bulgarians are more closely related to fyromians,than to other European populations and Middle Eastern people living near the Mediterranean
The only thing I can see from these documents is that the authentic old ones were written in Bulgarian (what a surprise) and that the people you named "Macedonians", were never mentioned as being "Macedonian" in the documents (Cyril and Basil). You need to start thinking my friend...
you should thank Cyril and Basil or Kirillos and Methodios as we say in Greece for giving you the slavic language...and Kirillos and Methodios were of course GREEKS!!!
Прочети моля те малко история,за да видиш какви са татарите,къде са живели и че нямат абсолютно нищо общо с българите.Нали ако беше така и 85% от населените в днешна Македония трябваше да е татарско.
Българите нямат нищо общо с татарите,последното проучване(което се е състояло,за разлика от това,за което ти говориш)сочи че българите на 99% нямат нищо общо нито с татари,нито с каквито и да било монголоиди и тюрки!Произхождаме от днешен Иран!
Hihi 40% od denesnite Bulgari imat Tatarski(Moskovski institute po genetika 2006) gen a prezimeto ti e Tursko da potursko ne moze da bde.Kara=Crn.Crnopaunov hehe
Redrougegirl you are also a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with unemployed victims like boban is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
its not exatly tha same langouge but is very simirial, a bulgarian can understand you, your langouge as well as bulgarians and serbian and other are all based in slavic alfabet
once again a stupid vardaskian video saying nothing...the most of the information is in your native bulgarian laguage and the rest cant be seen since it is too small...the only good thing is that you do not try to make any connections to ancient macedonians..
There is a report that, after the king had completed the Macedonian custom of marking out the circular boundary for the future city-walls with barley-meal, flocks of birds flew down and fed on the barley. Many regarded this as an unfavorable omen, but the verdict of the seers was that the city would have a large immigrant population and would provide the means of livelihood to many countries." [p.69]
On July 14, 2006 it was announced that Ljubčo Georgievski former Prime Minister of FYROM applied for and was granted Bulgarian citizenship on the basis that his parents are Bulgarians and that he has a Bulgarian national identity
"...I went to death, but the Bulgarian people, which I love, and for which I will die, it will not die together with me
Another figure of your national movement of liberation — Gligor Purlichev from Ohrid, author of the poems „Armatalos" („The Serdar") и „Skenderbei" (Skenderbeg), wrote:
"We, Bulgarians were so much abused and despicable from many nationalities, that is why it is time to come to our senses
"About a month ago (November 1943) the German command has commissioned the VMRO - Ivan Mihailov, to take the control of Kostour, Lerin and Voden under German
supervision.
VMRO Central Committee members V. Kurtev and G. Nastev began organizing all the company leaders, bandsmen and terrorists who had been
active in the past.
After receiving instructions as to the nature of their respective missions, they were sent to the designated districts to take the
3. Completely wrong, Alexander is macedonian name
4. Completely wrong, Philip is macedonian name
5. Same answer as 1. and 2.
6. Same answer as 1. , 2. and 5.
7. So what?
8. U mean like Christmas, New Year, Easter? u haven't heard yet that we use some special branch for Xmas that even alexander was practicing it (not for Xmas). I am sure u don't use that branch. There're proves that alexander used it
Ok, ok, I am convinced: you exist! I never doubted that, to be honest with you, but...now you need to go and get yourselves a real name, like Slavomakedonia (I know Albanians would want it to be Albanokossovia, and Bulgarians Bulgardonia, but you cannot keep everyone happy) and then we all become friends and you are saved from kossovisation/ossetisation.
Now remember: Greeks DO NOT claim ANY m2 of your land, unlike ALL of your other neighbors!
It is not surprising that whoever made this video is a person in desperate need of his real identity !! I is too obvious that his level of intelligence is living proof that, whichever his origin or race, he is way too far from being related to any of our Hellenic tribes...Spartan, Athenian, Achaian, Makedonian, Korythian....etc. Let's just accept that this video-creator simply does not demonstrate the level of IQ to be considered even a distant relative to any of the Hellenic farm-help MALAKA!!
This video was pointless. It just showed a bunch of passages from who knows where, and underlined the work Macedonia. Thats ridiculous, and its its even more ridiculous that it is something your people are proud of. Get real, open your eyes, and stop fighting for something that you will never get, and that in the end, does not even belong to you. You use the Bulgarian language and you now try and use the Greek name Macedonia. Establish yourself and stop stealing from those around you.
someone that claim that common alphabet of egypt was demotiki lacks a bit of historical knowledgde. the cast of the Scribes in old egypt was a trully powerfull one.they were not writing in demotiki,but with hieroglyphs.tablets of basic aritmetics such as number of porks,weight of cereals are written using hieroglyphs
the coptic, which is the commong language of the egypt after the pharaonic dynasties, is highly related to the hieroglyphs ( thats how chamoplion decoded the hieroglyphs)
The text is made up of three translations of a single passage, written in two Egyptian language scripts (hieroglyphic and Demotic), and in classical Greek.
dud, what is the point to explain you...i wonder ...?
during the pharaonic times, there was only ONE language and Script in Egypt, the hieroglyphic scripts
as I said before, records of papyrus shows that hieroglyphs were used for everyday's purpose during the pharaonic period.
When egyptians started to convert into christianity, they created Coptic, with the fundament of hieroglyphs because they didnt want to use a paegan scripts anymore
so what would have been the purpose to write in a same language but in 2 different scripts, morever when we know that the demotic egyptian is the coptic script, because the hyeroglyphic script is the fundament of the coptic( thats how Champolion deciphered the hieorglyphs)
Morever, when we translate other artifacts in macedonia that has their inscriptions in the script of the second text of the rosetta stone, it gives astonishing results !
go and check the rosetta stone of botev and tentov...go and check the observatory of kokino, and artifacts found over there with the same scripts as the second language of the rosetta stone..
if greek was the official langauge of that time, this is true, because EVEN THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN GREEK, does that make the JEWS GREEK ???
One time again.... you prove me that you are a nation without history, culture and vision, and the only thing that you can do, is to answer on our questions with historical inaccuracies and untruths. Your country does not have history and your politicians try to find thousands ways to demonstrate that you are Macedonians.
you are brainless thinking your selfs as macedonians you are nothing but slavs as gligorov your prime minister said!!!!!!!!!!!! wher is your lungage in any marble. greek is in any marble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.slavs you are slavs you are admit it!!!!!!!!!!
Hey socratis904 listen - Alexander spoke Macedonian language that language was very similar than today macedonian language. There is evidence -> The Roseta Stone is writen on three language, Roman, Classic Greek and Macedonian... The macedonian language is realy similar than today language but is different writen.
with this video you prove what ? if you can read and understand english you ll realize that you are mistaken, or you are just one of the others that make propaganda ,they take the truth and present it as they like, all it is said here is that makedonians and thracians dont name then selfs bulgarians, :)
the only reason greece and bulgaria intergrated macedonian history as their own is because they are worried macedonia might claim its land back, the land that WAS NOT in greek or bulgarian borders before the treaty of bucharest.. greece occupied macedonia is pretty much greece's economy.
if the tables were turned, & we had our lands, macedonia would not treat poorer neighbours how we are being treated today.. ITS COZ WE'RE NOT FKN GREEDY! WE DONT WANT THE LANDS BACK WE JST WANA LIVE IN PEACE
LMAO i could say the exact same thing for you.. i also understand that it is something that you learnt at school, and no matter what i say, you say, he says, we are all going to believe what we want..
history is written by the victors.. by the greeks, bulgarians, albanians and serbs.. you won by the treaty of bucharest, not us.. and please your tito explanations are stupid, LMAO people were calling themselves macedonians long before tito..
You will never be called Macedonians. Face the truth. I understand that is something that you learned at school. But this is Tito's heritage, a dictator who wanted to take parts from Greece and invented this macedonian nation-theory. You are a mix of Slavs, Albanians and Bulgarians. Stop cheating because you will stay forever out of NATO and EU and you will live in misery.
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Your nation was called Vardaraska before the 17th Century. You call Bulgarian Heros, Macadonian Idealists, and garbage like that. Your country is a scam by stealing another Nations history. Blame your woes on the Fascist Tito, Hitler sympathizer.
what do foreign archaeologists from australia uk and usa have to say about fyrom and macedonia? do they say that fyrom macedonians only came about with tito? or do they say that fyrom macedonians are ancient people of alexander the great? it is a bit weird. but imagine americans moving into egypt and then claiming that they are related to the ancient egyptians...theyd be lieing. then they say they can prove that egypt was always there...well ofcourse it was there but without americans. for eg
Try better to call yourselves Monkeydonians. That will suit better to the thiefs of another country's history. Why had to be Greece so unlucky? There are so many countries in the world where you can steal something. Try to steal from each country something small so nobody will take notice. But Greek history and names...I'm sorry we are closed!
Macedonia was never part of greece.Are you too stupid to see all proofs around you?all historical evidences?Your problem is that you are wrongly educated.greece started this propaganda in the 19th century,before that they had no problems with Macedonia, and Macedonians.
Do you not realize that in the history books which describe the last few centuries, any reference to "Macedonia" is a reference to a geographical region of ancient times? Finding the words Macedonia and Macedonian in these history books is no "proof" of your claims.
Macedonia had many faces over the years, but its primary identity is Greek. Can you get that through to your heads? Can you not see the logic? What are they teaching you over there?
macedonian, Are you claiming to be Greek? Good, at least that's historically accurate. The Ancient Macedonians were Greek. But if you are trying to claim that Macedonians were not Greeks, then you have to be careful with one piece of your "evidence" at 00:31 Do you not know the word "Hellenic"? How young are you?
USA SUPPORTS MAKEDONIA ! IT CALLS IT REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA when it speaks of it and together with 180 countries worldwide, together with Russia, China,India.... Greece is a constructed country in the 1800's by Avstro-hungaryan empire,france and Great britain to defy the Ottoman empire.Till then the place so called "greece" was the ottoman province of Yunanistan,but makedonia stayed Makedonia and wasnt in Yunanistanian( Greek) territory.
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, CANNOT establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.
Eugene Borza, Historian, Professor, and Archeologist, whom the American Philological Association refers to as the "Macedonian specialist" wrote:
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution calling on the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) to stop using propaganda.
The resolution also urges FYROM to collaborate with the United Nations and Greece to determine a mutually-acceptable name for itself.
The resolution is co-sponsored by Senators Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Barack Obama (D-IL)
Alexander the Great saw himself as a Greek, and Krste Misirkov saw himself as a Bulgarian but this won't stop the Skopjeans from claiming otherwise. Facts mean nothing to Skopjeans...it's only what they perceive themselves to be that matters. They will continue to rewrite history and claim racism if you disagree.
Journal "Le Temps" Paris 1905 (Gave a total population of 2,782,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
-Prof. G. Wiegland - Die Nationalen Bestrebungen der Balkansvölker. Leipzig 1898 (Gave a total population of 2,275,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
Ethnicity and language Macedonia has inherited a complex ethnic structure. The largest group, calling themselves Macedonians (about two-thirds of the population), are descendants of Slavic tribes that moved into the region between the 6th and 8th centuries AD. Their language is very closely related to Bulgarian and is written in the Cyrillic script.
Eugene Borza, Historian, Professor, and Archeologist, whom the American Philological Association refers to as the "Macedonian specialist" wrote:
the Macedonians are a NEWLY emergent people in SEARCH OF A PAST to help legitimize their precarious present as they ATTEMPT to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians.
I can be half half or one but I cant be three things. So you Greeks are claiming to be Macedonian Greek. Lets face it there are Macedonians always have been always will be. Greeks have attempted to falsify history through propoganda.I know what I am and I agree you are a Greek Macedonian as a result of 1 of 2 things: 1. You are related to the people who once occupied that land (macedonians) 2.Ur brainwahed turks
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
"The Macedonia Slavs, of whom there are 2,000,000, are subjects of the Sultan of Turkey. They are Bulgarians and belong to the Bulgarian Church".
Peter Roberts - Immigrant races in North America - 1910 - p. 36.
Take a look at the certificate from 1903 where he states his Macedonian origin! That guy is a immigrant to America from macedonia, and he declares himself as Macedonian.
Do not quote, usually quotes are regarded as not such reliable sources because everyone can say anything underpressure.
I would say that they were really Macedonians but were under the Exarch influence and pressure so they had to claim Bulgar!
So therefore I suggest we all live in harmony, we are all here on this earth to live together as amicably as possible and if you are a Christian like myself you will believe that there is eternal life for some of us - so dont let your hatred and propaganda and misinformation cloud your judgement to do and know what is right.
True but the one that is doing propaganda is you..Read history books...I will say it again.....Also i know one macedonia and that macedonia is a part of the greek heritage and was always part of the greek heritage...Get a life barbaroslav...I told you..You are not a macedonian cause you don;t speak the greek language..You are a pseudomacedonian a bulgarian or a serbian..It is tito and comintern who brought you where you are....They changed your identity to create an artificial nation
This reply is from macedonian warriors mother and you can all sit here and type all night and argue but I just want you to know one thing you can change names, borders and environments but you can never ever change peoples identy and culture religion and beliefs (just like the Turks did not achieve this in over 500 years of occupation). We are not going to go away, we know who we are and where our roots are from and no politicians or uninformed people like yourself are going to change this.
I know who youa re that is the fact..The point is that you should know who you are too..Read history books...Ok?.......You are a result of the movement of pseudomacedonism....You are a bulgarian or a serbian...
Greetings from TurkishCanadian!
paflagonian 4 months ago
MACEDONIA TIMELESS !!!
Concord5121 11 months ago
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha
how funny you pathetic yugoslav.
You made this video to show US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
Macedonia Evidence
Dont deny your Slavic Identity
nmt1969 1 year ago
keep spamming with monkeydonian bullshit!
maybe great alexander will start screaming in his grave!!!
jouvemin190 1 year ago
Macedonia is one and is in Greece.
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@deedeegr100 yes 60 %
radoslav980 1 year ago
@radoslav980 glad to hear you know you are a bulgar
deedeegr100 1 year ago
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the answer was given by Kiro Gligorov - The Macedonian Truth (03 06 1992)
look for it here on youtube....as of u people FYROMians....GET A LIFE!!!...a real life with a identity that is yours!!!
kostasdania 1 year ago
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Antic macedonians are not greek, but also they are not slavic :)
Slavic people have occupied the territory of antic macedonians around 500 A.C.
The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
flo77is 1 year ago
world but i can prove your evidence wrong because macedonians shared 2 things with greeks language and beliefs you so called macedonians lack language greek language throught this two things greeks kept their identity althouth probably not biologicaly at least ethnically which give me the right to call myself greek and your so called people FAKE
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
called macedonia and its people are sons of alexanders soldiers the ones who murdered alexander the great well this is the history i was taught and it is probably biased and i cant guarantee that im greek since so many wars were waged and so many blood mixtures were made throughtout history and you could even call your selfs alexanders sons but that would make you greeks that you so much hate us dont get me wrong im not a racist but just a stupid 13 years old fool that things he can change the
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
that he would be able to do it on he΄s own so he went on to unite all greek people some refused but were forced to throught wars so he waged a war against persia and started conquering it and recovering all lost land but he dint only conquer it but also other places like egypt and some northern lands alaxanders soldiers were left to take care of the lands while he conquered more and more land when he died without any but one son witch was also murdered these soldiers divided the land so your so
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
well im going to give you guys a history lesson about alexander the great and your so called macedonia first of all persia was an empire that waged wars against greece or rather the greek people throught the lands of the now called greece i could give details but im really bored so after some years philip a greek king waged wars to conquer the land of the now called macedonia and its people he died but he had a dream vengeance which then by hes fathers death alexander the great took on he decide
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
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Vardar Macedonia (Macedonian and Serbian: Вардарска Македонија, Vardarska Makedonija; Bulgarian: Вардарска Македония, Vardarska Makedoniya) is the north-western area of the Macedonia region. The borders of the area approximately coincide with modern day Republic of Macedonia. The name references the river Vardar, which flows through the area.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
this nicpetowski was born in 1820 and before.. that explains hiw greta knowledge of hellenic history!!!! reading fake bfyromina books written in 1995 know everything too bad for a dying child.. soon this face state will be divided in 3
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
interesting proof...vardascians have helenic culture..
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
The maps prove absolutely nothing. They were to blurry to read.
gotch09 1 year ago
the biggest lie ive ever seen in my life, these scrubs dont prove anything sucka
NoTToNF1 1 year ago
1:54 Basil the macedonian ??? Is thst the same Basil who had wars with Samuil - Another Macedonian king ???? So acordinc to this We shal conclude that those wars were Macedonian civil wars? :)))))))) Do you get the noncence? :)))))
qbalka 2 years ago
I am sure that the Author of this video does not know that Basil the macedonian was actually ethnically ARMENIAN.
nickpafras 1 year ago
Another fact that proves that Macedonia was only a terrytorial term, not a country, and there were no etnic macedonians, macedonian nation or kingdom at that time.Samuil was Bulgarian king
qbalka 1 year ago
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There is a nice inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in Skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει
I m sure it will be easy fo you to translate the language of your suposed ancestors lolski
hoplitespao 2 years ago
These modern so called "greeks", beleive that they are "pure greeks" descended directly from the ancient city states"
You are not real "greeks", you are a mongrel race made up of albanians, turks, vlach, slavs, gypsie and god knows what
Stop steal Anceint Macedonian and Anceint Greek history. You have nothing to do with it.
nikpetrovski 2 years ago
Mnogo ubava pesna. does any one know the name of this song, and who sings it?
Makedonija na Makedoncite!
nikpetrovski 2 years ago
Oh, I forgot, he used to pray to Allah at the Muslim Mosque in the center of the Macedonian capital, Skopje... He used to boast that he is descendant of Mongols and he used to be very proud of his Slavic origin.
When he attended the Olympic Games in Greece, he was only allowed to participate because he was Slav and only Slavs were allowed to participate in Olympic Games.
Also, his mother Olympia, was not an Epirote, she was Albanian that lived at that time in the Caucasus region!
Right Skopje???
shockolanu 2 years ago
Yes, exactly! Alexander the Great spoke Serbian language. He was brother of Bulgarians and he was brought here to the Balkans along with the other Slav people of his kin.
He is a proud brother of Attila the Hun and of the Bulgarian Kings. The capital of Macedon was in Skopje and the burial place was called Strumice. Right?
shockolanu 2 years ago
ΓΕΙΑ ΣΑΣ ΡΕ ΑΡΧΙΔΟΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ!!!!!
sakicHellac 2 years ago
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars have brainwashed their children consistantly through the ages.
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars will cheat and lie and do the unthinkable to achieve the link to Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
Some Yugoslavs believe in the existance of a secret vault in Germany containing ancient Macedonian parchments, which proves that the ancient Macedonians were protoSlavs.
The list is endless!!!
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
Some Yugoslavs believe that they are the Makedonoids, the proto white race, which spawned Slavdom.
Some Yugoslavs believe that the rosetta stone is engraved with an ancient Macedonian script.
Some Yugoslavs believe that the Bucharest treaty has an expiry date, come 2012 they automatically inherit the whole region (ancient and modern) of Macedonia.
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
We now have a modern generation of southern TurkoSlavsBulgars, that are very confused about their history and about their origins.
Some Yugoslavs believe that they are not Slavs at all and consider it a racial slur to be called Slav.
Some Yugoslavs believe that Alexander the Great was Slavonic and the ancient Macedonians were protoSlavs.
Some Yugoslavs believe that the old church Slavonic was the language of Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
Yugoslavs have taught their children lies and half truth's, they have brainwashed their children to believe in a sick and twisted form of ethnogenesys, which links Slavonic peoples to the ancient Maceonians of antiquity.
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars believe that they are all related to the ancient Macedonians through the Fyromians.
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
Yugoslavs (southern TurkoSlavsBulgars) have consistantly lied to their children about their history and about their origins.
Yugoslavians have been teaching their children a corrupted and distorted version of European history.
Yugoslavs and other TurkoSlavsBulgars have alway wanted Alexander the Great for their ancestor.
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
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The origin of the Skopjans as indicated in one of their own songs: IAM SLAVOBULGAR
"Kade se chulo, videlo
Turchin vera da menuva
Vera da menuva
Kaurin da stanuva"
slavobulgarian 2 years ago
again fake prouves :)
so dont show your stupidity!
kaurin is christian & look & other doccuments, not only that what your chauvinists show you because that is not objective looking of the history & history is not like bible like your politicians show you, & it is not like poetry like your chauvinistic nationalistic books what sellect only that facts what they want!!
wildboymk 2 years ago
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Chovek1 2 years ago
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***** FYROM's LIES EXPOSED, FYROM's GLOBAL HUMILIATION CONTINUES!!! *****
COPY AND GOOGLE THIS:
"Letter to President Barack Obama" Macedonia-evidence international scholars
And enjoy
***335*** SCHOLARS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD saying the OBVIOUS TRUTH:
FAKE MACEDONIA = FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA (FYROM)
REAL MACEDONIA, therefore GREECE!!
REAL MACEDONIAN, therefore GREEK!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
kako se vika pesnata ?
Chovek1 2 years ago
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Hey, FYROMians (=fake Macedonians), copy and Google this:
"Letter to President Barack Obama", Macedonia international scholars
And see what more than 250 INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS have to say. Then think and try to learn, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism... And remember,
REAL MACEDONIAN, therefore GREEK!
Cheers!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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Hey, FYROMians, do you want to become REAL Macedonians? Here is how:
1.
Stephen G. Miller, Professor Emeritus, University of California, Berkeley:
"Allow me to end this exegesis by making a suggestion to resolve the question of the modern use of the name "Macedonia". Greece should annex Paionia (FYROM), that is what Philip II did in 359 B.C."...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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..."And that would appear to be acceptable to the modern residents of that area (FYROM) since they claim to be Greek by appropriating the name Macedonia and its most famous man. Then the modern people of this new Greek province could work on learning to speak and read and write Greek, hopefully even as well as Alexander did."
(ARCHAEOLOGY magazine, January/February 2009 issue)
Greetings from REAL Macedonia, Greece! ;)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
macedonia is greek motherfuckers!! do you know anything about greek history??????? Alexander the GREAT was Macedonian !!! Greece
MrMetalforlife 2 years ago 3
I agree with you! Alexander the Great was Macedonian...not Greey...ups... Yunanistanian :D
TheMacedonMan 2 years ago
makedonian = GREEK.
spartan = greek
LEARN HISTORY YOU monkeys from
monkey do ninja !!!! LOL
Veto to monkeys of vardarska.
Veto to thieves of GREEK HISTORY.
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago
The proud Yunanistanian accuses someone of stealing history, you poor little boy Alexander was Macedonian like it or not, I don't give a fuck the only thing I know is that I am MACEDONIAN and you are YUNANISTANIAN.
sparta = doesn't exist
greece = Yunanistan
I'm truly sorry for you.
ljupcne999 2 years ago
ofcurse you stealing my history you are not makedonian you speak mix of servobulgarian end not greek .sparta stil exist greece or younanistan is the same .the first is of western europe the second is of asia end midle east
DALAMYIAN 2 years ago
hahah.i want to ask something to the stupid person who made this video.why the whole maps and blablabla are after 1900? monkeydonians dont even know that macedonia exists centuries ago?they dont have any proof or monument in their language from that period.everything is on greek.and i am sorry,everybody knows that there is macedonia, and macedonians,it's not new, but these persons are not you (the monkeydonians),How stupid and brainwashed persons. Former Albanian Repuplic of Monkeydonia FAROM
polina123xxx 2 years ago 2
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T.J. Winnifrith, British scholar:
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
what is interesting that the background music in the video clip sounds very Greek to me. If the Skopians are so adamant that they are different, why don't invent another language which is not Slav in origin. The audacity and stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.
terry387 2 years ago 4
2.
..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these 'radical Slavic factions' decided to live with their myths and lies for the constant amusement of the rest of the world!"
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Poor FYROMians, heavy propaganda victims, history rappers, INTERNATIONAL JOKE!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and
THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Read below and for your own good try to learn, FYROMians, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism! Other ways just be pathetic and swear again and again because that's the only thing you can do best, since you are jealous and hate Greece and Greeks because deeply you know very well that, since ancient times, MACEDONIAN, THEREFORE GREEK!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Douglas Dakin, British historian:
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"At this the Bulgarians,were still dwelling to the north of Haemus. But in the early ninth century, under Kroum (803-814), they made raids on Thrace; and later under Simeon (893-927) Bulgarian hordes entered Macedonia, advanced to the walls of Constantinople in the east and even reached the Corinthian coast to the south. These hordes caused much devastation but they did not change the ethnological character of the regions they plundered."...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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..." Greeks not only predominated in the towns but in the country-side, for the Slavic settlers had never at any time displaced completely the original populations."
("The Greek struggle in Macedonia, 1897-1913", Institute for Balkan Studies, 1993)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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"But even stranger is the name "Macedonians", which was imposed on us only 10 to 15 years ago by outsiders and not as something by our own intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced: they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other Bulgarians."...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
2.
..."You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the "Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to as the "Shopski language"."
(Kuzman Shapkarev, in a letter to Prof. Marin Drinov of May 25, 1888 (Makedonski pregled, IX, 2, 1934, p. 55; the original letter is kept in the Marin Drinov Museum in Sofia, and it is available for examination and study)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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"I have even met people who believe there is a special race which they call 'Macedonian', whose 'cause' they wish to aid. The truth is, that in a district which has no official frontiers, and never has had any stable ones, there are people of six races, who, as we have seen, all have causes to be considered [...] I shall speak only of the part I have stayed in- the districts of Lakes Ochrida and Prespa."...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
2.
..."Here there are Greeks, Slavs, Albanians, and Vlahs. Of Turks, except officials and such of the army as may be quartered on the spot, there are few. The Albanians, I believe, are all Moslem. Should there be any Christians they would be officially classed as Greeks. A large part of the land near Lake Prespa is owned by Moslem Albanians as "chiftliks" (farms)." (Edith Durham, "The Burden of the Balkans", 1905, p. 76)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
during ottoman empire and balkan wars macedonia was a term to describe a geographical region.this region was inhabited by ethnic greeks bulgarians jews and turks(guess who you are..).all these sarerate ethnicities of macedonia could be called as a whole:macedonians as like the greeks of thrace can be called thracians.
oooACHAIANooo 2 years ago
yes i cant say that i disaprove this video you are a saperate nation from bulgars the last 60-100years.this is the truth.you have no connection with the ancient greek macedonians.before balkan wars or 1900 you are never depicted as saperate ethnicity.then gradually your ethniciy discriminated and became sarerate from bulgarian..
oooACHAIANooo 2 years ago
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ vs ALEKSANDAR MAKEDONSKI !!!!!
Like say Greek alphabet vs Bulgarian alphabet!!!
Tsakonas1982 2 years ago 3
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T.J. Winnifrith, British scholar:
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds themis an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The Macedonian language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these radical Slavic factions decided to live with their myths and lies for the constant amusement of the rest of the world."
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Let them live a lie.
Greeks should be flattered that a nothing culture is adopting a bit of Greek for themselves.
Let them, they have little else, except drunkards and monkey assed history lol.
Greeks have a lot to be proud of - embedded in the corridors of history forever for ALL to see.
Atheeizm 2 years ago 4
SIMPLE!!!
Macedonians had the same language, the same religion, used the same names, served the same arts, used the same architecture, the same heroes, the same customs, the same rituals, the same traditions, the same myths, and olympic games patricipation as all other Greeks!!! Macedonians were (and are) Greeks.
koutroubidis 2 years ago 9
@koutroubidis They had almost the same culture as the other peoples in the region, Macedonians had own language and letters. Higher class people like generals, teachers could speak koine language and write. Macedonians had monarchy acnient greeks "democracy". Had same gods as the other peoples in the region. Same as todays religion is the same. Macedonians attended Olimpic games since Filip threts. Before that they were banned from the games as they were barbarians and not Geeks.
nitroflesh 1 year ago
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@nitroflesh
"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". - Strabo
"It is historically proven that the Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia was created by Stalin, Tito and Dimitrov, aiming at the stealthy removal of a large part of Northern Greece. This Republic was used during the period 1944-1949 in order to destabilise Greece" -- US deputy Foreign Minister Mr. Thomas Niles
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
"Evidence of Macedonian existence"!! Hahahah!!! Here, take a GOOD look:
Krste Misirkov, philologist and publicist, one of the founders of the "Macedonian" nation, considered a national hero in FYROM:
"We are more Bulgarian than those in Bulgaria."
"We speak a Bulgarian language".
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
("On the Macedonian Matters", Sofia 1903)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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FYROMian friends, heavy propaganda victims, dont be history rappers!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BCE to 454 BCE:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
uhm...you realise that these "evidance" are fairly new and dont prove anything ?
sleeper7271 2 years ago
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Implementation of high-resolution typing methods allows a significantly wider spectrum of HLA variation to be detected, including rare alleles and haplotypes,and further clarifies the origin of Bulgarians
Phylogenetic and correspondence analyses showed that Bulgarians are more closely related to fyromians,than to other European populations and Middle Eastern people living near the Mediterranean
neo19158 2 years ago
The only thing I can see from these documents is that the authentic old ones were written in Bulgarian (what a surprise) and that the people you named "Macedonians", were never mentioned as being "Macedonian" in the documents (Cyril and Basil). You need to start thinking my friend...
ilian51378 2 years ago
you should thank Cyril and Basil or Kirillos and Methodios as we say in Greece for giving you the slavic language...and Kirillos and Methodios were of course GREEKS!!!
AltheoPao13 2 years ago
Basil is not Methodius... He is a different person who was reffered to in the video.
ilian51378 2 years ago
Ste kaja-ubij ubij ubij shiptara shiptara!!!Dobar shiptar-murtav siptar!
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Pokrsten Tataru so Tursko prezime ja ne sum Siptar a ti si glup ko prav mongoloid...
DamirBEG 2 years ago
Нито съм покръстен,нито съм татар,нито презимето ми е турско!Аз съм източно-православен българин,който се гордее,че потомък на славяни и арийци!
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Прочети моля те малко история,за да видиш какви са татарите,къде са живели и че нямат абсолютно нищо общо с българите.Нали ако беше така и 85% от населените в днешна Македония трябваше да е татарско.
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Ceti ti malko nesto podrugo od knigite na Cernokacanov:).Na primer Krste Petkov Misirkov,Evlija Celebija,Miladinovci...
DamirBEG 2 years ago
Чел съм и какво?И Мисирков и Миладинови са българи,те сами се определят като такива.
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Българите нямат нищо общо с татарите,последното проучване(което се е състояло,за разлика от това,за което ти говориш)сочи че българите на 99% нямат нищо общо нито с татари,нито с каквито и да било монголоиди и тюрки!Произхождаме от днешен Иран!
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Hihi 40% od denesnite Bulgari imat Tatarski(Moskovski institute po genetika 2006) gen a prezimeto ti e Tursko da potursko ne moze da bde.Kara=Crn.Crnopaunov hehe
DamirBEG 2 years ago
0:26-people of Turkey:Bulgarians,Greeks,Albanians,Turks and Armenians!Тракия и Македония са области в България!
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Makedonija si e Makedonija,vklucuvajki go i Pirinskiot del.Trakija i pripaga na Turcija.
DamirBEG 2 years ago
Hahahaha,drugo ne moga da kaja!
Karapaunov 2 years ago
Ne kazuvaj nisto.Popameten si taka.
DamirBEG 2 years ago
Redrougegirl you are also a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with unemployed victims like boban is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
noaudito 2 years ago
hey stupidiliadis,
learn this: the bulgarian alphabet have less letters than ours macedonian alphabet and we have 12 different letters.
GreeksAreLiars1 3 years ago
you changed the bulgarian alphabet you used until 1944, adding 5 letters and eliminating 7
RETTELLAS 3 years ago 2
its not exatly tha same langouge but is very simirial, a bulgarian can understand you, your langouge as well as bulgarians and serbian and other are all based in slavic alfabet
giorgos512 2 years ago
That's because you were made to use the Karadjica. Wake up and read some REAL history!
ilian51378 2 years ago
once again a stupid vardaskian video saying nothing...the most of the information is in your native bulgarian laguage and the rest cant be seen since it is too small...the only good thing is that you do not try to make any connections to ancient macedonians..
styliadis 3 years ago
There is a report that, after the king had completed the Macedonian custom of marking out the circular boundary for the future city-walls with barley-meal, flocks of birds flew down and fed on the barley. Many regarded this as an unfavorable omen, but the verdict of the seers was that the city would have a large immigrant population and would provide the means of livelihood to many countries." [p.69]
momcemk 3 years ago
The map is from WW1 when there were no nazies. You'd better fix that.
svet21 3 years ago
another stupied video without proofs.lol.
you call proof that you are descents of macedonians if someone call you macedonian???
if someone call me japanish that make me japanish???? we give you everytime historical
proofs,sourses,historians,scripts but you only
what call you macedonian .lol. or what say to you your granba (this is the most funny).
goodbye morons
mikegrecia 3 years ago
lol ur right god helps the one who fights for justice no wonder greece is getting stronger and stronger lol.
pliot5334 3 years ago
Agios Dimitrios (Sv Dimitrija)in Bitola(Monastir)was built by the Greeks in 1830 and had been a church affiliated with Greek Patriarchate till 1913.
It was the biggest and the most beautiful church in Bitola before 1913.
And Bukovo cemetery is full of Greek inscriptions before 1913.
And why so many neoclassical facades in Bitola so much different than the other country?
redgreek2811 3 years ago
Fuck off malaka :)
MakedoniaUnited 3 years ago
On July 14, 2006 it was announced that Ljubčo Georgievski former Prime Minister of FYROM applied for and was granted Bulgarian citizenship on the basis that his parents are Bulgarians and that he has a Bulgarian national identity
redgreek2811 3 years ago
After the WWII and the creation of Socialist Republic of Macedonia IN 1945 some UNLUCKY people were forced to change their names.
One of those people living in Krushevo and being Vlach was called Theodoraki Proia and he was obliged to be renamed into Toshe Proevski
Yes
The famous, popular great singer, musician who was killed in a car accident 2 years ago Toshe Proevski was the grandson of the renamed person.
This comment is dedicated to all true funs of Toshe
redgreek2811 3 years ago
In his poem "Rebec-player in fair" Raiko Zhinzifiv said:
Foliage leaves and forest, and mountain, the stones of this country.
Bird and fish in Vardar river, alive and dead will stand and will answer to the whole world:
"I am Bulgarian. Bulgarians live in this country
redgreek2811 3 years ago
From the poem "Child Harold" from Lord Byron. Lord Byron was a fighter for greek freedom and authonomy.
The wild Albanian kirtled to his knee,
With shawl-girt head and ornamented gun,
And gold-embroider'd garments, fair to see:
The crimson-scarfed men of Macedon;
The Delhi with his cap of terror on,
And crooked galive; the lively supple Greek;
macedonian 3 years ago
Dimitar. Miladinov said: after he was arrested
"...I went to death, but the Bulgarian people, which I love, and for which I will die, it will not die together with me
Another figure of your national movement of liberation — Gligor Purlichev from Ohrid, author of the poems „Armatalos" („The Serdar") и „Skenderbei" (Skenderbeg), wrote:
"We, Bulgarians were so much abused and despicable from many nationalities, that is why it is time to come to our senses
redgreek2811 3 years ago
were you there when they were saying this?how can you paraphrase when you do not know for sure..
Any proof that he wrote that?
macedonian 3 years ago
"About a month ago (November 1943) the German command has commissioned the VMRO - Ivan Mihailov, to take the control of Kostour, Lerin and Voden under German
supervision.
VMRO Central Committee members V. Kurtev and G. Nastev began organizing all the company leaders, bandsmen and terrorists who had been
active in the past.
After receiving instructions as to the nature of their respective missions, they were sent to the designated districts to take the
fight up to the Greek guerrillas.
redgreek2811 3 years ago
Thats the spirit! Bravo Makedonci!
I am proud whit this little country:)
But will be united again one day.
A за грци-мрци ич К.. не ме боли, како што не ги болеше нив пред сто години!
АМА СЕГА КЕ ГИ БОЛИ :)
peroOmkd 3 years ago
To divxakias!
1. It's coz you were macedonia and stole our part
2. Same answer as 1.
3. Completely wrong, Alexander is macedonian name
4. Completely wrong, Philip is macedonian name
5. Same answer as 1. and 2.
6. Same answer as 1. , 2. and 5.
7. So what?
8. U mean like Christmas, New Year, Easter? u haven't heard yet that we use some special branch for Xmas that even alexander was practicing it (not for Xmas). I am sure u don't use that branch. There're proves that alexander used it
9. So what?
gr0gi1 3 years ago
Ok, ok, I am convinced: you exist! I never doubted that, to be honest with you, but...now you need to go and get yourselves a real name, like Slavomakedonia (I know Albanians would want it to be Albanokossovia, and Bulgarians Bulgardonia, but you cannot keep everyone happy) and then we all become friends and you are saved from kossovisation/ossetisation.
Now remember: Greeks DO NOT claim ANY m2 of your land, unlike ALL of your other neighbors!
eismakedon 3 years ago
Why Misirkov declared himself Bulgarian after 1913?
Why Mladenovchi brothers and Parlicev were always identifying themselves as Bulgarian?
Why your ex Prime Minister Georgievski sorry I mean Georgiev became Bulgarian in 2006?
redgreek2811 3 years ago
daa....ocevidno e che nema makedonci
676672583 3 years ago
It is not surprising that whoever made this video is a person in desperate need of his real identity !! I is too obvious that his level of intelligence is living proof that, whichever his origin or race, he is way too far from being related to any of our Hellenic tribes...Spartan, Athenian, Achaian, Makedonian, Korythian....etc. Let's just accept that this video-creator simply does not demonstrate the level of IQ to be considered even a distant relative to any of the Hellenic farm-help MALAKA!!
123456george 3 years ago
This video was pointless. It just showed a bunch of passages from who knows where, and underlined the work Macedonia. Thats ridiculous, and its its even more ridiculous that it is something your people are proud of. Get real, open your eyes, and stop fighting for something that you will never get, and that in the end, does not even belong to you. You use the Bulgarian language and you now try and use the Greek name Macedonia. Establish yourself and stop stealing from those around you.
princess30982 3 years ago
The Rosetta stone is a stone with writing on it in two languages (Egyptian and Greek), using three scripts (hieroglyphic, demotic and Greek).
Rosetta stone is written in three scripts because when it was written, there were three scripts being used in Egypt.
The first was hieroglyphic which was the script used for important or religious documents.
The second was demotic which was the common script of Egypt.
The third was Greek which was the language of the rulers of Egypt at that time.
divxakias 3 years ago
someone that claim that common alphabet of egypt was demotiki lacks a bit of historical knowledgde. the cast of the Scribes in old egypt was a trully powerfull one.they were not writing in demotiki,but with hieroglyphs.tablets of basic aritmetics such as number of porks,weight of cereals are written using hieroglyphs
the coptic, which is the commong language of the egypt after the pharaonic dynasties, is highly related to the hieroglyphs ( thats how chamoplion decoded the hieroglyphs)
dimit0 3 years ago
About Rosetta:
The text is made up of three translations of a single passage, written in two Egyptian language scripts (hieroglyphic and Demotic), and in classical Greek.
divxakias 3 years ago
dud, what is the point to explain you...i wonder ...?
during the pharaonic times, there was only ONE language and Script in Egypt, the hieroglyphic scripts
as I said before, records of papyrus shows that hieroglyphs were used for everyday's purpose during the pharaonic period.
When egyptians started to convert into christianity, they created Coptic, with the fundament of hieroglyphs because they didnt want to use a paegan scripts anymore
dimit0 3 years ago
so what would have been the purpose to write in a same language but in 2 different scripts, morever when we know that the demotic egyptian is the coptic script, because the hyeroglyphic script is the fundament of the coptic( thats how Champolion deciphered the hieorglyphs)
Morever, when we translate other artifacts in macedonia that has their inscriptions in the script of the second text of the rosetta stone, it gives astonishing results !
dimit0 3 years ago
MAKEDONIA=GREECE
perkansai 3 years ago
1. Macedonians spoke a dialect of the "GREEK" language.
2. Macedonians had "GREEK" names.
3. Alexander's name is "GREEK".
4. Philip's name is also "GREEK".
5. The regions of ancient Macedonia had "GREEK" names.
6. Macedonian architecture was same to the "GREEK" architecture.
7. Macedonians took part in the Olympic Games.
8. Macedonians celebrated the same festivals as the rest of the "GREEKS".
9. Macedonians worshiped the same Gods as the rest of the "GREEKS".
divxakias 3 years ago
go and check the rosetta stone of botev and tentov...go and check the observatory of kokino, and artifacts found over there with the same scripts as the second language of the rosetta stone..
if greek was the official langauge of that time, this is true, because EVEN THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN GREEK, does that make the JEWS GREEK ???
dimit0 3 years ago
About Rosetta:
One time again.... you prove me that you are a nation without history, culture and vision, and the only thing that you can do, is to answer on our questions with historical inaccuracies and untruths. Your country does not have history and your politicians try to find thousands ways to demonstrate that you are Macedonians.
divxakias 3 years ago
Jews never spoke Greek
Judaia is not Greek name
Jews didn't have Greek names
The Regions of Judaia, didn't have Greek names
The Jewish architecture is not the same with Greek
Jews didn't take part in the Olympics
Jews didn't celebrate the same festivals as the rest of Greeks
Jews didn't have the same Gods with Greeks.
Oyf!
if yr name is Dimtri, well, you have a Greek name, after the Greek Goddess Dimitra! You should change it !!!!!
xristos115 3 years ago
yet another statement out of topic...i said tat the bible is made by the jews for the jews...but its still written in koine ( todays greek)...
yet you didnt answer on the reason why egyptians would have created coptic, if they had already the demotiki ...
dimit0 3 years ago
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Alexander the Great
1.Never missed a chance to verify his pride for his Greek ancestry.
2.His parents had Greek origins.
3.Alexander considered himself as a Greek.
4.He spoke Greek.
5.He grew up and was educated from famous Greek teachers like Aristotle and had as his favourite book Iliad of Homer.
6.He worshipped the same gods like the rest of Greeks.
7.He undertook and accompliced to a military campaign based on the long-term hostility between Greeks and Persians, as leader of the Greeks.
divxakias 3 years ago
but are you retarded or something??? this proof is AGAINST you people!
READ IT! GOD!look what it says people
IN Thrace and Macedonia were HELLENIC BLOOD AND FEAUTURES PREDOMINATE and HELLENIC influence is more strongly felt!
OPEN YOUR EYES!!!
MACEDONIAisHELLAS 3 years ago 3
you are brainless thinking your selfs as macedonians you are nothing but slavs as gligorov your prime minister said!!!!!!!!!!!! wher is your lungage in any marble. greek is in any marble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.slavs you are slavs you are admit it!!!!!!!!!!
hotvasilis 3 years ago
Hey socratis904 listen - Alexander spoke Macedonian language that language was very similar than today macedonian language. There is evidence -> The Roseta Stone is writen on three language, Roman, Classic Greek and Macedonian... The macedonian language is realy similar than today language but is different writen.
bata4iste 3 years ago
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ISTORICAR 3 years ago
What kind of language is this.
Ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek! Alexander the Great didn't speak a Slavic language....
superpatsavouras 3 years ago
it does nt say that makedonians are not greeks :)
learn how to read english,
socratis904 3 years ago
with this video you prove what ? if you can read and understand english you ll realize that you are mistaken, or you are just one of the others that make propaganda ,they take the truth and present it as they like, all it is said here is that makedonians and thracians dont name then selfs bulgarians, :)
good joke, keep trying!
socratis904 3 years ago
the only reason greece and bulgaria intergrated macedonian history as their own is because they are worried macedonia might claim its land back, the land that WAS NOT in greek or bulgarian borders before the treaty of bucharest.. greece occupied macedonia is pretty much greece's economy.
if the tables were turned, & we had our lands, macedonia would not treat poorer neighbours how we are being treated today.. ITS COZ WE'RE NOT FKN GREEDY! WE DONT WANT THE LANDS BACK WE JST WANA LIVE IN PEACE
cinchemaninche 3 years ago 3
LMAO i could say the exact same thing for you.. i also understand that it is something that you learnt at school, and no matter what i say, you say, he says, we are all going to believe what we want..
history is written by the victors.. by the greeks, bulgarians, albanians and serbs.. you won by the treaty of bucharest, not us.. and please your tito explanations are stupid, LMAO people were calling themselves macedonians long before tito..
cinchemaninche 3 years ago
You will never be called Macedonians. Face the truth. I understand that is something that you learned at school. But this is Tito's heritage, a dictator who wanted to take parts from Greece and invented this macedonian nation-theory. You are a mix of Slavs, Albanians and Bulgarians. Stop cheating because you will stay forever out of NATO and EU and you will live in misery.
truelights 3 years ago
You are right. I fully agree with you. FYROMians are Bulgarians. They have not any links with ancient macedonians
strent24 3 years ago 2
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Your nation was called Vardaraska before the 17th Century. You call Bulgarian Heros, Macadonian Idealists, and garbage like that. Your country is a scam by stealing another Nations history. Blame your woes on the Fascist Tito, Hitler sympathizer.
LilFuzzy101 3 years ago
Do i have to explain 1124034 times why it was called Vardarska?I said it thousend times!
macedonian 3 years ago
if alexander spoke a barbaric language as is suggested..it was probably an illyrian language.
shushberger 3 years ago
what do foreign archaeologists from australia uk and usa have to say about fyrom and macedonia? do they say that fyrom macedonians only came about with tito? or do they say that fyrom macedonians are ancient people of alexander the great? it is a bit weird. but imagine americans moving into egypt and then claiming that they are related to the ancient egyptians...theyd be lieing. then they say they can prove that egypt was always there...well ofcourse it was there but without americans. for eg
shushberger 3 years ago
Try better to call yourselves Monkeydonians. That will suit better to the thiefs of another country's history. Why had to be Greece so unlucky? There are so many countries in the world where you can steal something. Try to steal from each country something small so nobody will take notice. But Greek history and names...I'm sorry we are closed!
sitarcos 3 years ago
Macedonia was never part of greece.Are you too stupid to see all proofs around you?all historical evidences?Your problem is that you are wrongly educated.greece started this propaganda in the 19th century,before that they had no problems with Macedonia, and Macedonians.
DzidzoMACEDONIA 3 years ago
Do you not realize that in the history books which describe the last few centuries, any reference to "Macedonia" is a reference to a geographical region of ancient times? Finding the words Macedonia and Macedonian in these history books is no "proof" of your claims.
Macedonia had many faces over the years, but its primary identity is Greek. Can you get that through to your heads? Can you not see the logic? What are they teaching you over there?
asteroume 3 years ago
macedonian, Are you claiming to be Greek? Good, at least that's historically accurate. The Ancient Macedonians were Greek. But if you are trying to claim that Macedonians were not Greeks, then you have to be careful with one piece of your "evidence" at 00:31 Do you not know the word "Hellenic"? How young are you?
asteroume 3 years ago
USA SUPPORTS MAKEDONIA ! IT CALLS IT REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA when it speaks of it and together with 180 countries worldwide, together with Russia, China,India.... Greece is a constructed country in the 1800's by Avstro-hungaryan empire,france and Great britain to defy the Ottoman empire.Till then the place so called "greece" was the ottoman province of Yunanistan,but makedonia stayed Makedonia and wasnt in Yunanistanian( Greek) territory.
Makedonia forever
Makedonia for the makedonians!
death4enemys 3 years ago 2
Tezi "dokazi" sa prosto smeshni. ima li smisla da gi komentiram. Procheti gi oshte edin pat,po vnimatelno.
Playboytaxi 3 years ago
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Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, CANNOT establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.
Eugene Borza, Historian, Professor, and Archeologist, whom the American Philological Association refers to as the "Macedonian specialist" wrote:
petdou1 3 years ago
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution calling on the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) to stop using propaganda.
The resolution also urges FYROM to collaborate with the United Nations and Greece to determine a mutually-acceptable name for itself.
The resolution is co-sponsored by Senators Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Barack Obama (D-IL)
petdou1 3 years ago
We all know that Obama supports greece, we all know that republicans support Macedonians so this is not suprising!
macedonian 3 years ago
EU is very concerned about the high degree of propagande and hatered that is coming from fyrom, that is directed against Greece and Bulgaria.
petdou1 3 years ago
Alexander in Greek language means: Defender of men.
Philip in Greek language means: Friend of horses (litteraly a good horse rider)
Can you please tell me what those 2 names mean in your language?
Macedonians were speaking and writing in Greek language. If you are descendants of Macedonians, why you lost your initial language?
Real Macedonians would never ally with turks.
In WW2 we fought against nazis, you skopjans fought beside them.
Stop distorting history...History cannot change.
Hermes79Sc 3 years ago
Check out some videos where it shows how many nazi idiot are in greece first of all!
It is proven that the Macedonian and greek language was not the same.
Alexander the great allied even with persians and lots of other asian tribes!
History can not be rewriten by your governement when its lived by our people!
macedonian 3 years ago
Alexander the Great saw himself as a Greek, and Krste Misirkov saw himself as a Bulgarian but this won't stop the Skopjeans from claiming otherwise. Facts mean nothing to Skopjeans...it's only what they perceive themselves to be that matters. They will continue to rewrite history and claim racism if you disagree.
petdou1 3 years ago
the whole video is facts and you do not accept it and you are the one talking about facts???lolz
neither alexander od kpm regarded themselves as bulgarians!
macedonian 3 years ago
Stop bothering me with the same thing over and over again.
Like the slavs came everywhere but skipped greece because of some dumb reason. please be reasonable.
You have sub saharian origin and your makedonians in n.greece are from asia so shut up!
You post some crap that say no Macedonian race well this clip is here to disprove that. see i give data about macedonians all over the history
macedonian 3 years ago
It is so tragic to see a people who have no clue about their history and identity. I pitty you.
Every book in the world states you are of slavic origin.
petdou1 3 years ago
Journal "Le Temps" Paris 1905 (Gave a total population of 2,782,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
-Prof. G. Wiegland - Die Nationalen Bestrebungen der Balkansvölker. Leipzig 1898 (Gave a total population of 2,275,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
petdou1 3 years ago
britannica encyclopedia
The people
Ethnicity and language Macedonia has inherited a complex ethnic structure. The largest group, calling themselves Macedonians (about two-thirds of the population), are descendants of Slavic tribes that moved into the region between the 6th and 8th centuries AD. Their language is very closely related to Bulgarian and is written in the Cyrillic script.
petdou1 3 years ago
Eugene Borza, Historian, Professor, and Archeologist, whom the American Philological Association refers to as the "Macedonian specialist" wrote:
the Macedonians are a NEWLY emergent people in SEARCH OF A PAST to help legitimize their precarious present as they ATTEMPT to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians.
petdou1 3 years ago
Look lets look at Logic.I am Macedonian
Another is Greek and another is Bulgarian
I can be half half or one but I cant be three things. So you Greeks are claiming to be Macedonian Greek. Lets face it there are Macedonians always have been always will be. Greeks have attempted to falsify history through propoganda.I know what I am and I agree you are a Greek Macedonian as a result of 1 of 2 things: 1. You are related to the people who once occupied that land (macedonians) 2.Ur brainwahed turks
masowarrior 3 years ago
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
"The Macedonia Slavs, of whom there are 2,000,000, are subjects of the Sultan of Turkey. They are Bulgarians and belong to the Bulgarian Church".
Peter Roberts - Immigrant races in North America - 1910 - p. 36.
petdou1 3 years ago
Take a look at the certificate from 1903 where he states his Macedonian origin! That guy is a immigrant to America from macedonia, and he declares himself as Macedonian.
Do not quote, usually quotes are regarded as not such reliable sources because everyone can say anything underpressure.
I would say that they were really Macedonians but were under the Exarch influence and pressure so they had to claim Bulgar!
macedonian 3 years ago
So therefore I suggest we all live in harmony, we are all here on this earth to live together as amicably as possible and if you are a Christian like myself you will believe that there is eternal life for some of us - so dont let your hatred and propaganda and misinformation cloud your judgement to do and know what is right.
masowarrior 3 years ago
True but the one that is doing propaganda is you..Read history books...I will say it again.....Also i know one macedonia and that macedonia is a part of the greek heritage and was always part of the greek heritage...Get a life barbaroslav...I told you..You are not a macedonian cause you don;t speak the greek language..You are a pseudomacedonian a bulgarian or a serbian..It is tito and comintern who brought you where you are....They changed your identity to create an artificial nation
thadigr 3 years ago
This reply is from macedonian warriors mother and you can all sit here and type all night and argue but I just want you to know one thing you can change names, borders and environments but you can never ever change peoples identy and culture religion and beliefs (just like the Turks did not achieve this in over 500 years of occupation). We are not going to go away, we know who we are and where our roots are from and no politicians or uninformed people like yourself are going to change this.
masowarrior 3 years ago
I know who youa re that is the fact..The point is that you should know who you are too..Read history books...Ok?.......You are a result of the movement of pseudomacedonism....You are a bulgarian or a serbian...
thadigr 3 years ago
super muzika
FORZA MACEDONIA
MAKEDONIEN FÖR ALLTID
MAKEDONIJA ZASEKOGAS
ISTORICAR 3 years ago
"....the Romans came not to fight against the Greeks, but for the Greeks, against the Macedonians...." --from Plutarch , Flaminius
MAKEDONIJA ZASEKOGAS
ISTORICAR 3 years ago
yeah,this is not from the time of alexander man!of course u live were ancient makedonia was-but u are slavs!
thnaoslily 3 years ago