Evil secularism? XD I bet this is why today's most peaceful countries with the lowest homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection and drug abuse rates and the best health care and a suspicious lack of bullying problems, gay teen suicide and extensive censorship of the media (bleeping, blurring, 7-sec-delay live broadcasts) are European secular countries. 'cos we are eeeevil! >:)
Fuck! I can't stand Brock's condescending determiner, and that repulsive shit eating grin on his face. It makes it ever so worse to also sit through his verbal cascade of diarrhea and straw man packed "arguments."
did AA call college students "draft evading elitists"????? Does he realize that the draft is not in effect? does he realize that many college students have to take out loans or rely on financial aid? and then he goes on to say that all college professors are atheists.... I'm at a loss for words at this point. wow. just wow.
well its 2010.We know now that compassion is endowed on all creatures upon producing offspring so religion isnt the bringer of ethics or conventional morality.And we are also aware that there is no supernatural god-king up there sprinkling micro-organisms around the universe so we can evolve 8 million years later to be put on an 'ethical road test'. So religion will go the way of the Dodo bird soon but dont worry,we`ll be better off without it.
Christianity does not want to choke out every faith opposed to Christ. The God of the Bible says , whosoever will let him come. And Jesus also says to love our enemies as we love ourselves.
And the communist regimes Brock refered to were secular, in other words, godless, get some history. It sounds as if you are under the delusion that secularism is neutral....get a clue
@fellowservant34 The communist regimes weren't secular, thats the point, they were atheistic. If a regime is atheistic it isnt secular. Thats not hard to get your head round.
He has no idea what atheism or science actually is or how it work or what it means.
4:01 what the fuck is he retarded Fascism is a catholic movement Hitler and most Germans were Lutheran or Catholic, Italys state religion was Catholic.Communist Russia (USSR) was Russian orthodox Christian. Chinese communism is Taoist, Vietnam Com. Is Buddhist the Cuba is predominantly Catholic.
These atheist accusations are false and the biggest lie in history even the books in public school portray this.
one of my economics lecturers likes to rubbish economists and politicians he doesnt agree with, while pushing his own view (he is right wing XD)
most of my lecturers however are very neutral in their teaching, and whenever they put their own opinion forward they like to make it clear that it is just that - their opinion, and that if we disagree we should talk to them after the lecture (an activity undertaken by only the bravest students)
I don't believe in a state at all. That one group of people should have the power to institute a coercive monopoly over everyone else is absolutely absurd to me.
Americans are so scared of socialism. "OmG, not communism here in the godblessed america!"
Communist is also a bad word here in Sweden )although not as much as in the us), although socialist is an ok word in every country except the paranoid states.
I'm not a socialist, but the fear of socialism in the us is just pathetic. And no, socialism and communism are not the same thing. Communism is 100% socialism. A socialistic state doesn't need to have 100% socialism
(continued from previous post) As someone who spent five and a half years at a major city university, I never found a professor overtly interject his political/religious opinions in a lecture. In fact the few professors, who did deviate from the curriculum, were conservative professors who wanted to preach their message. I always found that the professors of a liberal bent where far to reticent to express their personal opinions out of fear of being seen as politically incorrect or as biased.
Everything Brock says about a typical college experience underscores the fact that he probably has never been to a real university. All his disparaging comments about college professors being pansy draft dodgers are taken straight out of the mouth of conservative pundits like Limbaugh, Hannity, and many conservative preachers, who IRONICALLY, never served in the military either (continued).
Brock really needs to go back to elementary school and find out what the term "neutral" and "favor" actually mean. Apparently, judging by his rhetoric, neutrality and favoring something are synonymous.
According to Brock's asinine logic, the fact that science classes don't have a chapter on alchemy or astrology, is proof that public school science classes are "VALUE DRIVEN" and they are teaching an anti-alchemy and anti-astrology ideology. Nothing could be more laughable or absurd.
none of my college professors go on personal tirades. their courses don't have that kind of open endedness, they have to teach the syllabus everyday or we don't learn what we need to pass tests
Nicely done Tooltime. I only almost threw up twice. You were pretty good at stopping Brock in short enough segments that I didn't get motion sickness. Well, not too sick anyway. Appreciated.
I dont understand why religious people want to call atheism a religion? How does it do their argument any favor?
"see your views are just as crazy as ours"
Is it just so they can pigeon hole us as a "false religion" so they can easily dismiss us according to their teachings?
Or is it just to piss us off ?well it works! But at least acknowledge it is for that reason and has no intellectual debate credibility or rational to back it up.
I've never had this in college, but my high school biology teacher (a devout protestant) ranted on and on about teaching "both sides" for the entire school year.
secular humanism is a RELIGION (a world view is a metaphysiological part in religion) but christianity in the sense does want to sweep out the nation to spread the world of god so... that is why in the bible (in John) its says to spread the seed.
and ALL christians SHOULD (moral judgement, i can make it because i believe in god, therefore there are morals. there is an arguement for that on one of you vids) and MUST believe the separation of church and state because Jesus HIMSELF wanted separation of church and state in his time in Rome. and for the record America isn't a christian nation, uhh man i said it and im a christian. one America is a post modern nation (remember the first amendment). Well that other guy is right though.
wow this "chistian" guy is on the right track but he need to be a bit more knowledgable because he is barely on the "building blocks" of christianity which is Armenianism, spiritual enlitenmeng etc. 1. I am a christian and i know that godlessness is NOT a religion, yep you heard it, and it is a rebellian against god, which isn't a world view is a rebellion, and what is rebellion rejection of a moral value. wait... oh yeah according to atheists there are not morals because ther is no god hmm....
The only times I've ever seen professors go on about their personal beliefs is 1) in classes that cover that subject area i.e. they'll talk politics in a class about politics and they'll talk religion in a class about religion and it's usually only in debate type classes and it's made very clear that the professor's opinion is equally open to criticism. 2) In their spare time when they are campaigning or the student engages them in conversation about said topic. Never in Geometry 101 though lol.
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In no way do I want the state to push my specific religious beliefs. What I clearly articulate is the danger of the foundational worldview that birthed everything great about this nation being systematically replaced with another. Yes secularism has an equally potent worldview and to deny that those who hate the Christian foundations of this country are attempting a 1984 historical swap job is laughable.
That is true that many of the early Americans were also Christians. Bu that does not merit the US upon Christianity. What merits it is that these were the persecuted people, who knew too well the power of persecution as not to repeat the same in the new world. And yet some people like Paine who played (and play now) as a christian by proclaim humanist values, simply to not be rejected by the mostly religious people of the land.
Do you realize that Christians can be secular? Do you really even know what you`re talking about? Because you don`t seem to understand secularism. "Secular" does not mean "atheist." They are not synonyms.
Example: my boyfriend is a Christian who does not believe that churches are necessary for worship, that is a secular idea, not an atheistic one. Now, I AM an atheist, that means I don`t believe in God. Obviously, secularism and atheism need not be confused.
What's laughable is your rudimentary vocabulary. Secular is just a term for the Separation of Church and State, basically. It's not tied to Atheism, Humanism, or Theism.
You can be very Religious, and you can be Secular. There are many Christians who support the notion of the State's favoritism of any religion being illegal. That's called being Secular.
wow, well there is a lot to disentangle there, but first of all you said that the state cannot be religiously neutral, which would seem then to only leave to options. second, maybe you wanted to convey a message about rewriting history in that video, but in fact you simply bashed secularism as leading to Nazi/communist style violence. third, if that is your argument, that religion make this country great, then you made it rather poorly.
Brock, from what I can see from your videos, you spend the entirity of the time making sensationalist attacks against anything that you don't agree with, with very little support of your claims and a desperately poor understand of almost anything you speak about.
I go to university here in England. The tutors don't go on tirades, infact alot are christians, they teach, and they do a damn good job.
Furthermore, it's ironic that you would advise other people not to listen, cos it sure hurt you.
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Tooltime this entire video is a purposeful misinterpretation of my position. Ironically for a guy who accuses me of straw manning, I have never seen a video more worthy the charge. The contradiction is amazing.
What's amazing is that you haven't provided any sort of argument or backing, just made claims. If you're being misinterpreted, why not point out where and how tooltime is doing it?
Well, Brock, maybe you need to do a better job of presenting your position, because based on what I've seen of your videos your views sure seem to be accurately represented here.
do not confuse your position with the logical outcome of your views. you specifically may not support government backed religion, but that is what follows from your claim that the state cannot be neutral and secularism/atheism is bad.
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Your video only makes sense if you distort my argument. Sadly, I know through previous conversations with you that you actually know this is not my position. (Disappointing) That you cherry picked this entire video will boost your (I am a colossal atheist) stock, but it will cost you on the intellectually honest back end.
Come on! You are not one of those "Lets regain America back to Christ" guys? You are special in this sense? Speak up and say it in you videos, "I am not An America For Christ type of guy".
You bring up some very good points in this video, although Soviet Russia was not an Atheist state, it was a secular state, like Brock said. Although this was just an official position.
Atheism was actively encouraged and religion was suppressed.
I steered clear of ideologically-saturated classes (for the most part) during college. I can only remember one or two courses out of 50+ such that the stereotypical cultural/feminist 'doctrines' of college were really included in the course material.
Brock's statement about "Geometry 101" made me nauseous. If any professor (especially one of mathematics) at a respectable university wasted precious lecture time on an ideological diatribe, they'd be in danger of losing their tenure.
What the hell does feminism have to do with secularism? Are you saying there aren`t any religious femenists? I would have to say that there are, in fact, many, obnoxiously religious feminists.
What I actually see too much of are students who don`t want to hear anything about evolution because they`re still living in the dark ages, they hate science, and they refuse to accept reality.
Feminism has a lot to do with secularism; since so many world religions subjugate women and are opposed to the idea of gender equity, it is unnecessary (hence potentially harmful) to treat women as inferior in a secular society.
I guess it depends on what religions you are talking about, and what kind of feminism you're referring to; certain strains of Paganism are much less patriarchal and more matriarchal, and these are what appeal to the new-agey "women are superior" species of feminist.
I had 1 teacher in biology go on about their beliefs. It was annoying new age bullshit, tied in loosely (and I add baddly) with religion.
He even had us debate with each other on black board online, supporting or criticizing what he espoused. I raped the shit out of his and others' poorly constructed beliefs.
I hope the students that I encountered there don't go on to get biology degree's; they have horrible critical thinking skills.
Being mexican I hear about the catholic god all day, every day.
Especially since i'm studyng archiecture; most of the simbolisms, and art movements are derived from some religion or superstition (from stonehenge to present).
That said, I've never felt persecuted or judged by a teacher at college because of my disbelieve in any god.
Totally off-topic dude, but I was just thinking about Hispanics and catholicism the other day. I've never met many people from the Central American countries. Do you find that like black people they tend to be more religious than the rest of the population? How many have you met that are atheist like yourself
I had a history teacher in high school sometimes give his conservative opinion on the liberal presidential candidates, but he got in trouble for it almost immediately.
No tirades, but there are some classes in which the professors will raise your grade a little if your opinion coincides with theirs, regardless of your reasoning.
The only professors I've had in college that discussed their personal beliefs were Christians. My Philosophy and Science profs pretty much went out of their way to avoid people figuring out their views though, which I think was damn respectable. I guess its the difference between having a faith that commands evangelism and being an open-minded rationalist who values people to think for themselves.
this dude brock can't even begin to imagine an ideology that is not fear-based, to claim that we should fear secularism - when the alternative is seen today in countries like saudi arabia, iran, pakistan, afghanistan, nigeria ... all countries that are profoundly hostile to democracy and human rights, where people are stupid and superstitious, education of the populace is the last priority of the government and many of these countries are ruled by autocrats. should we now strive 4 that?
I've had one science instructor that was a creationist. He showed us creationist films. He also misquoted the book as to make students think that the book held some kind of proof that God existed. But that was only one of many. Other then him I've never had an instructor go on any sort of rant.
I've never had the experience of professors preaching in class.
I do recall some students actually challenging a professor in an environmental science class when the professor was just presenting the science of how man-made chemicals can build up to a deadly level in the environment. The student/s thought he was presenting a biased view.
I have a feeling this is the sort of thing Brock refers to; facts that don't agree with his worldview I'm sure are seen as elitist lies.
Godlessness is not religion. A secular/scientific world view is open to revision in the face of evidence. A faith based one is not, they are not at all the same thing.
Great video. Brock's comments on college scream Fox News and the right's unabashed hatred of anything intellectual. For fuck's sake, these are the people who think wisdom falls from the lips of Sarah Palin. As for secularism, many Christians confuse secularism for atheism, though anyone with Google or a history lesson could tell the difference.
A rather good video. With content like this, I'd think you'd have more subscribers. I know people are attracted to TJ's theatrical approach, but I appreciate a more moderate presentation as well (also why I like Thunderf00t).
I always like it when people go on about how 'acadaemia is useless crap maaaan' while using their digital webcams and computers, living in a comfortable house with the full benefits of modern medicine and agriculture, and generally basking in the fruits other people's accadameic accomplishment. Oh sweet irony!
He should move into a shed he built himself and grow all his food by hand, at least then we wouldn't have to listen to this boring rubbish.
I actually have had one professor go on somewhat of a tie-raid. He was a creationist. It was just after the Dover trial, was wildly incoherent, and lasted 15 minutes.
@Dashes000 Kind of surprising, i've never had a prof go on about a political world view for more than a few minutes. Yes, during the iraq invasion in 2003, I did have a proof in a stats class spend about 5 minutes saying bush was a moron... funny thing is no one seemed to have a problem with that perspective at the time.
I was surprised as well. For the most part tho he was deliberately vague. He gave a short rant about the odds of an eye coming about, then said something about the only way you could disprove the theory of evolution was "if it was [literally] spelled out in the stars one night."
Before moving to teaching CS, he wrote machine code IBM; this guy was NOT a stupid person. Nonetheless, there he was, making a complete fool of himself.
That's what it sounded like to me. I reckon this is a latent argument that Brock will plagiarize in the future from, iirc Augustine, against mathematics.
Brock makes me very angry, and yet I laugh because the truth of the matter is that he's a moron who plagiarized, was caught, and didn't want to admit he was wrong...it's sad that anybody would actually take this guy seriously.
I had a history professor that presented the evidence against the Abrahamic religions when he cover the Middle East. He was a dick about it and he got information wrong. But it was balanced out by my sociology professor that talked about "scientists" disagreeing with evolution/abiogenesis.
I like how Brock says "those of us who are keeping this world afloat."
What the fuck has Brock done to keep the world afloat? What are his contributions toward humanity? Exactly what positive impact is an ego maniacal, WLC plagiarizing, douche bag having on the world.
Seeing TheAtheistAntidote makes me miss VFX. VFX was at least a bit entertaining and we all loved to hate him, but TheAtheistAntidote is just a douche.
The fact that he can misrepresent college classes in such a way shows that he has never been to college. Either from lack of motivation or lack of intelligence. Take your pick.
I've taken two Philosophy of Ethics courses at a public college (the 2nd being on Ethics & Religion in particular) and in neither case did the professor lecture his personal views on the subject (not once.)
Maybe Brock can take up another imaginary crusade... like the War Against Christmas next ;o)
(More like a war against people who are celebrating the season who are not Christian. What's the reason for the season? Either Greek pagan holidays or maybe just the fact that its damn cold out!)
You cited a member of your student council whose only "liberal characteristic" you cited was antisemitism. Perhaps this was a poor choice of words on your part?
Okay, well, I just want to be clear: You're now saying that the bias is not widespread, but mainly limited to those two subjects? And of those subjects, the shift to the left isn't overwhelming, and of that shift, only a small minority of professors actually use biased grading methods?
So, in other words, there really isn't much of a bias at all in universities.
You've been trying to connect antisemitism with liberalism. Are you now trying to back off from this point? If so, then please don't cite a single person's antisemitism as evidence for their liberalism.
Deryk, extremely large portions of universities are dedicated to these subjects. In fact, it's probably the minority of classes that deal with politics at all. So, how can you then claim that there is some widespread bias? How can you agree with Brock about "geometry 101" being biased?
Furthermore, not all professors are liberal and of those that are, many have the ability to grade objectively (you seem to be completely missing this point).
You know what strikes me most about this Brock guy?
His ever-present creepy grin with the mad twinkle in his eye. You can tell he's just about the smuggest SOB you've ever seen with the way you can practically watch him pat himself on the back over his supposed brilliance every split second of every clip Tooltime has shown.
And that sort of hubris combined with his arrogance just creeps me out something fierce.
Exactly my point. There is no political bias within science and math departments - negating your idea that "professors bring their personal biases with them into the class room."
"...in reality I would be blacklisted."
Deryk, I've appealed exams and papers graded by TAs before, and I've never been "blacklisted." This is pure nonsense.
Sure, people in general cannot see beyond their own personal interests. However, to say that it is only limited to liberal and conservative is only a superficial observation.
I should note that I've only seen two professors give bad grades to skimpy girls. Not only that, but they only picked on a few girls who, after peer reviewing their papers, deserved much higher grades.
Sure, professors have biases, but so does everyone else. Most people simply cannot see past their own
Oh, come on! Deryk, you make great videos. You're a smart guy. How the hell are you buying your own bullshit?
So, the majority of Jews in the U.S. hold antisemitic views? Every Rabbi that came out against the formation of Israel (there were a lot of them when it formed) is antisemitic? What the hell are you talking about?
Deryk, I AM Jewish and I've NEVER gotten any antisemitism from any liberal when supporting Israel.
Yet your main example was a personal experience wherein you got a bad grade on an essay, assumed it was due to the position you took, and failed to properly appeal? Come on. I hope you don't expect me to buy that.
You know, most of my professors in science/math were and are probably liberal (based on the statistics), but I've never heard anything even vaguely political come out of their mouth. And you're suggesting that they grade with a bias? How do you grade multiple choice with a bias?!?
@deryk359. I've actually seen many liberal professors give A's to conservative students. Why? Because even though they didn't agree with the content, the conservative students put effort into their papers and did some honest research.
For the most part, I've seen professors grade quite fairly, at least when it comes to politics. (I've seen feminist professors give bad grades to girls who dress skimpy- liberal or conservative.)
As a Christian subscriber of yours, I agree'd with most every point you made. State funded education should go away. The governments only role should be to keep the peace among the people and maintain a military. Anything thing else should fall to the mayors and governors.
And I'll also say you're correct on your whole college bit too. Its always possible to be wrong.
That's an odd connection seeing as the majority of Jews are liberal or moderate... it's even more odd considering that the only openly antisemitic groups I've ever heard of are extremely right-wing (the BNP would be a good example of this). I think you're confusing antisemitism with issues concerning the state of Israel (it's not like all Jews live in Israel or agree with it's actions, but are clearly not antisemitic).
So, the studies I've seen show that around 20% of college professors consider themselves slightly to extremely conservative. Does that mean that universities have a 1/5th conservative bias against liberal students? I'd have a hard time buying your connection.
The reason you're sounding like somewhat of a conspiracy theorist here is that you are claiming that there is some institutionalized persecution which you are basing largely on the fact that you got a bad grade once.
Okay, I'm not sure how antisemitism relates to liberalism, but I'll just ignore that oddity for now.
I'm still not sure what a "marker" is, but again, it's actually very easy to go straight to professors for a re-grade (in fact, that is standard practice for all exams graded by TAs). Never taken econ or business at a university level, but my history, English and social sciences classes, again, never really involved politics and ENCOURAGED respectful debate over whichever topics were covered.
You're getting very close to conspiratorial thinking here. Are the majority of college professors liberal? According to studies, yes, but does that mean they are corrupt for being liberal? Definitely not.
In my experience, professors are primarily concerned that you simply learn the material.
At my College the teacher used to sacrifice ducks, geese & other farm birds during intermission. Which was okay. But then he would just talk & talk & talk about how he was a Social-Democrat. That was kind of boring...so im in favor of teachers being religious but NOT sharing their personal beliefs with students
ok,i stopped this at 1:42,now im not a fan of politics and i refuse to watch any news broadcasts on tv but if any fellow canadians can enlighten me,is church and state or PROVINCE i guess a strong issue over here?
Well, you must go to a very, very small school if the professors in a specific department are all acquainted with university administration. This, of course, also ignores the fact that there are usually student representatives on these review panels. It also assumes that all these administrators are corrupt people with little concern for giving you a fair grade... but whatever, maybe your school is just that bad.
Still, there's something about your story which doesn't add up for me... (cont'd)
Specifically the part about the "marker" (whatever that is) standing you up. Every single TA and Prof. I've ever had holds regular office hours. Did this "marker" not hold office hours? At the very, very least, you couldn't you have made a photocopy of the graded paper, written a long note explaining why you feel you deserve a better grade, and dropped it off at this person's office? Was the marker a TA or a professor? If it was a TA, did you go to the professor?
I mean, it's one thing to have a problem with one specific "marker" and it's an entirely different thing to paint the ENTIRE university system of the united states as "corrupt liberals" (the position of Brock's which you seem to agree with).
Besides, maybe (just MAYBE - I have no idea), you could entertain the possibility that it wasn't that great of an essay.
It really puzzles me why the religious right wing continues whining about this. The Supreme Court ruled on religion in schools long ago. Jaysus, try joining the modern world people!
Evil secularism? XD I bet this is why today's most peaceful countries with the lowest homicide, rape, teen pregnancy, STD infection and drug abuse rates and the best health care and a suspicious lack of bullying problems, gay teen suicide and extensive censorship of the media (bleeping, blurring, 7-sec-delay live broadcasts) are European secular countries. 'cos we are eeeevil! >:)
MsHyde1 2 months ago
We do teach Christianity in schools, as a subject called Religious Education, not Science
Tarynus 6 months ago
I see brock in the biblical sense... as in, I don't believe a word he says.
badzulu44 10 months ago
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ThePeacefulAtheistt 10 months ago
i think we could make a petition to send Brock to Iran,that way he could experience the theocracy he lusts after
takzzzzzz 10 months ago
Fuck! I can't stand Brock's condescending determiner, and that repulsive shit eating grin on his face. It makes it ever so worse to also sit through his verbal cascade of diarrhea and straw man packed "arguments."
thenoobassassin 11 months ago
I like how he refers to the bible as a "Real Book"
agamimnon423 1 year ago
i swear brock looks like gideon from command and conquer 4 especally when he smiles it freaks the fuck out of me
(fuck EA)
InquisitorDracomual 1 year ago
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InquisitorDracomual 1 year ago
If you look up "cockamamie" in the dictionary, you will find a picture of Brock Lawley.
Eron2828 1 year ago
did AA call college students "draft evading elitists"????? Does he realize that the draft is not in effect? does he realize that many college students have to take out loans or rely on financial aid? and then he goes on to say that all college professors are atheists.... I'm at a loss for words at this point. wow. just wow.
creepyoldman2 1 year ago
It's... so... painful!
I should stop watching videos like this. I'm quite sure they are just shortening my lifespan. :P
Wulfshade 1 year ago
well its 2010.We know now that compassion is endowed on all creatures upon producing offspring so religion isnt the bringer of ethics or conventional morality.And we are also aware that there is no supernatural god-king up there sprinkling micro-organisms around the universe so we can evolve 8 million years later to be put on an 'ethical road test'. So religion will go the way of the Dodo bird soon but dont worry,we`ll be better off without it.
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
"Oh no, not tolerance and understanding!"
lol that kills me every time
666brandon666 1 year ago 2
Christianity does not want to choke out every faith opposed to Christ. The God of the Bible says , whosoever will let him come. And Jesus also says to love our enemies as we love ourselves.
And the communist regimes Brock refered to were secular, in other words, godless, get some history. It sounds as if you are under the delusion that secularism is neutral....get a clue
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 The communist regimes weren't secular, thats the point, they were atheistic. If a regime is atheistic it isnt secular. Thats not hard to get your head round.
Fangtorn 1 year ago
He has no idea what atheism or science actually is or how it work or what it means.
4:01 what the fuck is he retarded Fascism is a catholic movement Hitler and most Germans were Lutheran or Catholic, Italys state religion was Catholic.Communist Russia (USSR) was Russian orthodox Christian. Chinese communism is Taoist, Vietnam Com. Is Buddhist the Cuba is predominantly Catholic.
These atheist accusations are false and the biggest lie in history even the books in public school portray this.
pranays 2 years ago 2
ps: Canada is a secular County and we have more guns per capita with less murder and far less Crime.
We have better public services and much better education.
Secular states worldwide are far better off then religious states including Christian states.
America would not even exist if it wasnt for everyone running away from the oppression of the Christian European states.
pranays 2 years ago 5
I think at this point Brock knows how full of shit he is and just likes the attention too much to stop.
Belloran24 2 years ago 3
one of my economics lecturers likes to rubbish economists and politicians he doesnt agree with, while pushing his own view (he is right wing XD)
most of my lecturers however are very neutral in their teaching, and whenever they put their own opinion forward they like to make it clear that it is just that - their opinion, and that if we disagree we should talk to them after the lecture (an activity undertaken by only the bravest students)
kingOFtheFISHpeople 2 years ago
I really enjoyed listening to you and your very thought provoking way of explaining your thoughts so well.
You answered Brock so well. Thanks for people like you being able to difuse the Brock's of this world. Keep up the good work.
TheDoveLady 2 years ago 3
I don't believe in a state at all. That one group of people should have the power to institute a coercive monopoly over everyone else is absolutely absurd to me.
787Bisurdaddy 2 years ago
The Vatican effectively has no power.
imameatcom 2 years ago
Catholics, in the highest levels run this world. Jesuits and the Vatican are the most powerful organizations.
NWOSupporter2012 2 years ago
9:52 ah he actualy did... but does it count...
ZerqTM 2 years ago
9:12 your assuming he actualy when to collage.. X3
ZerqTM 2 years ago 3
Americans are so scared of socialism. "OmG, not communism here in the godblessed america!"
Communist is also a bad word here in Sweden )although not as much as in the us), although socialist is an ok word in every country except the paranoid states.
I'm not a socialist, but the fear of socialism in the us is just pathetic. And no, socialism and communism are not the same thing. Communism is 100% socialism. A socialistic state doesn't need to have 100% socialism
wehavebiscuits 2 years ago
holy shit, that guy is the most obnoxious douche bag in history. Who wants to join a posse?
kyebean 2 years ago 14
Draft evading elitists, Brock? Like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney?
jcgadfly 2 years ago 19
I'd love to see a society filled with Brock Lawleys, and see how long it stays "afloat".
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago 3
Just the thought of that makes me want to shove a shottie in my mouth.
kyebean 2 years ago 2
lol soviet system was great... I mean China system is the BEST in the world wright now and they are comunistic country...
Milancius 2 years ago
Fantastic point...very well made.
bronzevixen 2 years ago
I love the begining It's brilliant.
phoenixsong20 2 years ago
This entire series was well done Peter.
RottingChimp 2 years ago
The Soviet States, usually had a good viewpoint onto religion.
TheFrostheim 2 years ago 2
(continued from previous post) As someone who spent five and a half years at a major city university, I never found a professor overtly interject his political/religious opinions in a lecture. In fact the few professors, who did deviate from the curriculum, were conservative professors who wanted to preach their message. I always found that the professors of a liberal bent where far to reticent to express their personal opinions out of fear of being seen as politically incorrect or as biased.
alphacause 2 years ago 2
Everything Brock says about a typical college experience underscores the fact that he probably has never been to a real university. All his disparaging comments about college professors being pansy draft dodgers are taken straight out of the mouth of conservative pundits like Limbaugh, Hannity, and many conservative preachers, who IRONICALLY, never served in the military either (continued).
alphacause 2 years ago 3
Brock really needs to go back to elementary school and find out what the term "neutral" and "favor" actually mean. Apparently, judging by his rhetoric, neutrality and favoring something are synonymous.
alphacause 2 years ago 3
According to Brock's asinine logic, the fact that science classes don't have a chapter on alchemy or astrology, is proof that public school science classes are "VALUE DRIVEN" and they are teaching an anti-alchemy and anti-astrology ideology. Nothing could be more laughable or absurd.
alphacause 2 years ago
none of my college professors go on personal tirades. their courses don't have that kind of open endedness, they have to teach the syllabus everyday or we don't learn what we need to pass tests
badmonkey91 2 years ago
Nicely done Tooltime. I only almost threw up twice. You were pretty good at stopping Brock in short enough segments that I didn't get motion sickness. Well, not too sick anyway. Appreciated.
RichardRoy2 2 years ago
I dont understand why religious people want to call atheism a religion? How does it do their argument any favor?
"see your views are just as crazy as ours"
Is it just so they can pigeon hole us as a "false religion" so they can easily dismiss us according to their teachings?
Or is it just to piss us off ?well it works! But at least acknowledge it is for that reason and has no intellectual debate credibility or rational to back it up.
TheFluffyDuck 2 years ago
I expect you've got the idea. If they can call atheism a religion, then discrediting religion is self discrediting.
RichardRoy2 2 years ago
I've never had this in college, but my high school biology teacher (a devout protestant) ranted on and on about teaching "both sides" for the entire school year.
HelplessVictim 2 years ago
Such a concise refutation and thought out arguments/observations. Very well done! x5 Stars.
x1tekja 2 years ago
secular humanism is a RELIGION (a world view is a metaphysiological part in religion) but christianity in the sense does want to sweep out the nation to spread the world of god so... that is why in the bible (in John) its says to spread the seed.
Davey944 2 years ago
and ALL christians SHOULD (moral judgement, i can make it because i believe in god, therefore there are morals. there is an arguement for that on one of you vids) and MUST believe the separation of church and state because Jesus HIMSELF wanted separation of church and state in his time in Rome. and for the record America isn't a christian nation, uhh man i said it and im a christian. one America is a post modern nation (remember the first amendment). Well that other guy is right though.
Davey944 2 years ago
wow this "chistian" guy is on the right track but he need to be a bit more knowledgable because he is barely on the "building blocks" of christianity which is Armenianism, spiritual enlitenmeng etc. 1. I am a christian and i know that godlessness is NOT a religion, yep you heard it, and it is a rebellian against god, which isn't a world view is a rebellion, and what is rebellion rejection of a moral value. wait... oh yeah according to atheists there are not morals because ther is no god hmm....
Davey944 2 years ago
no fool morals are subjective not objective
Adventfred 2 years ago
dumbass used preacher as a pejorative. way to shoot yourself in the foot, brock.
akaso405 2 years ago 2
Godlessness is a religion must like bald is a hair colour.
cryingsoftly 2 years ago
The only times I've ever seen professors go on about their personal beliefs is 1) in classes that cover that subject area i.e. they'll talk politics in a class about politics and they'll talk religion in a class about religion and it's usually only in debate type classes and it's made very clear that the professor's opinion is equally open to criticism. 2) In their spare time when they are campaigning or the student engages them in conversation about said topic. Never in Geometry 101 though lol.
califoniania 2 years ago
It is apparent that Brock has never been to college. Or been in the real world.
cryingsoftly 2 years ago
I doubt he's even finished high school. Probably got kicked out for constantly cheating on his tests.
califoniania 2 years ago
It's difficult to believe that Brock is serious. He must be a troll.
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
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In no way do I want the state to push my specific religious beliefs. What I clearly articulate is the danger of the foundational worldview that birthed everything great about this nation being systematically replaced with another. Yes secularism has an equally potent worldview and to deny that those who hate the Christian foundations of this country are attempting a 1984 historical swap job is laughable.
TheAtheistAntidote 2 years ago
That is true that many of the early Americans were also Christians. Bu that does not merit the US upon Christianity. What merits it is that these were the persecuted people, who knew too well the power of persecution as not to repeat the same in the new world. And yet some people like Paine who played (and play now) as a christian by proclaim humanist values, simply to not be rejected by the mostly religious people of the land.
alexeirayu 2 years ago
Do you realize that Christians can be secular? Do you really even know what you`re talking about? Because you don`t seem to understand secularism. "Secular" does not mean "atheist." They are not synonyms.
Example: my boyfriend is a Christian who does not believe that churches are necessary for worship, that is a secular idea, not an atheistic one. Now, I AM an atheist, that means I don`t believe in God. Obviously, secularism and atheism need not be confused.
shrikechan 2 years ago 2
What's laughable is your rudimentary vocabulary. Secular is just a term for the Separation of Church and State, basically. It's not tied to Atheism, Humanism, or Theism.
You can be very Religious, and you can be Secular. There are many Christians who support the notion of the State's favoritism of any religion being illegal. That's called being Secular.
You're a fucking idiot, dude.....
IFloridaMotocrossI 2 years ago
Treaty of Tripoli. The United States is not in any way founded on Christianity.
You REALLY need to read some of what the Founding Fathers had to say about the formation of this country.
Setar 2 years ago
wow, well there is a lot to disentangle there, but first of all you said that the state cannot be religiously neutral, which would seem then to only leave to options. second, maybe you wanted to convey a message about rewriting history in that video, but in fact you simply bashed secularism as leading to Nazi/communist style violence. third, if that is your argument, that religion make this country great, then you made it rather poorly.
tooltime9901 2 years ago 7
Brock, from what I can see from your videos, you spend the entirity of the time making sensationalist attacks against anything that you don't agree with, with very little support of your claims and a desperately poor understand of almost anything you speak about.
I go to university here in England. The tutors don't go on tirades, infact alot are christians, they teach, and they do a damn good job.
Furthermore, it's ironic that you would advise other people not to listen, cos it sure hurt you.
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
@TheAtheistAntidote as a believer in god i can smell the false prophet on you, you do what you do for attention from man, not to get closer to god.
and oh sure horrible evil secularism, sure. I've heard Iranian propagandists say the same things,
reality check: your going to hell attention whore
takzzzzzz 10 months ago
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Tooltime this entire video is a purposeful misinterpretation of my position. Ironically for a guy who accuses me of straw manning, I have never seen a video more worthy the charge. The contradiction is amazing.
TheAtheistAntidote 2 years ago
What's amazing is that you haven't provided any sort of argument or backing, just made claims. If you're being misinterpreted, why not point out where and how tooltime is doing it?
Setar 2 years ago
Well, Brock, maybe you need to do a better job of presenting your position, because based on what I've seen of your videos your views sure seem to be accurately represented here.
army103 2 years ago
do not confuse your position with the logical outcome of your views. you specifically may not support government backed religion, but that is what follows from your claim that the state cannot be neutral and secularism/atheism is bad.
tooltime9901 2 years ago 11
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Your video only makes sense if you distort my argument. Sadly, I know through previous conversations with you that you actually know this is not my position. (Disappointing) That you cherry picked this entire video will boost your (I am a colossal atheist) stock, but it will cost you on the intellectually honest back end.
Cheers
TheAtheistAntidote 2 years ago
Come on! You are not one of those "Lets regain America back to Christ" guys? You are special in this sense? Speak up and say it in you videos, "I am not An America For Christ type of guy".
alexeirayu 2 years ago
what specifically is not your position?
tooltime9901 2 years ago 9
Be honest, do you really expect an answer to such a direct question?
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago
Brock has too much "assimilation" going on in his psychology....
IFloridaMotocrossI 2 years ago 2
he is a pretentious self-assured douchebag.
He needs to be taken down a notch.
SCRulerShinoda 2 years ago
Agreed.
IFloridaMotocrossI 2 years ago
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yaesenkole 2 years ago
You bring up some very good points in this video, although Soviet Russia was not an Atheist state, it was a secular state, like Brock said. Although this was just an official position.
Atheism was actively encouraged and religion was suppressed.
bobble12221 2 years ago
Lol yeah. It's fair enough if you use a filter to hide your identity, but he's not hiding his face, he's just BLINDING us with it.
bobble12221 2 years ago
I steered clear of ideologically-saturated classes (for the most part) during college. I can only remember one or two courses out of 50+ such that the stereotypical cultural/feminist 'doctrines' of college were really included in the course material.
Brock's statement about "Geometry 101" made me nauseous. If any professor (especially one of mathematics) at a respectable university wasted precious lecture time on an ideological diatribe, they'd be in danger of losing their tenure.
DeconstrainedUnbound 2 years ago
What the hell does feminism have to do with secularism? Are you saying there aren`t any religious femenists? I would have to say that there are, in fact, many, obnoxiously religious feminists.
What I actually see too much of are students who don`t want to hear anything about evolution because they`re still living in the dark ages, they hate science, and they refuse to accept reality.
shrikechan 2 years ago
Feminism has a lot to do with secularism; since so many world religions subjugate women and are opposed to the idea of gender equity, it is unnecessary (hence potentially harmful) to treat women as inferior in a secular society.
I guess it depends on what religions you are talking about, and what kind of feminism you're referring to; certain strains of Paganism are much less patriarchal and more matriarchal, and these are what appeal to the new-agey "women are superior" species of feminist.
DeconstrainedUnbound 2 years ago
I had 1 teacher in biology go on about their beliefs. It was annoying new age bullshit, tied in loosely (and I add baddly) with religion.
He even had us debate with each other on black board online, supporting or criticizing what he espoused. I raped the shit out of his and others' poorly constructed beliefs.
I hope the students that I encountered there don't go on to get biology degree's; they have horrible critical thinking skills.
ChairmanKiel 2 years ago
Being mexican I hear about the catholic god all day, every day.
Especially since i'm studyng archiecture; most of the simbolisms, and art movements are derived from some religion or superstition (from stonehenge to present).
That said, I've never felt persecuted or judged by a teacher at college because of my disbelieve in any god.
suchi4free 2 years ago
@suchi4free
Totally off-topic dude, but I was just thinking about Hispanics and catholicism the other day. I've never met many people from the Central American countries. Do you find that like black people they tend to be more religious than the rest of the population? How many have you met that are atheist like yourself
SamTay04 2 years ago
I've met my fare share of black and mixed race people; non of them atheists as far as I know.
Then again I have never met personally any hispanic person who was an atheist.
suchi4free 2 years ago
HALO THAR
4dfqz 2 years ago
I had a history teacher in high school sometimes give his conservative opinion on the liberal presidential candidates, but he got in trouble for it almost immediately.
gohoggyourself 2 years ago
I wonder if Brock knows that the USSR had a state church...
Setar 2 years ago
it was nothing but a cult of personality. Then again he should know what that is, the motherfucker seems to worship himself.
SCRulerShinoda 2 years ago
Dogmatic authoritarianism is the real problem, whether it comes under the guise of religion or nationalistic propaganda.
borgimplant 2 years ago 2
Brock reminds me of talking to a scientologist
mnewf2002 2 years ago
No tirades, but there are some classes in which the professors will raise your grade a little if your opinion coincides with theirs, regardless of your reasoning.
Bwoulf 2 years ago
My last name is Straw... I don't like the term Straw Men :P
All I can think of is myself as a scapegoat misrepresenting a group.
OctavioRedding 2 years ago
The only professors I've had in college that discussed their personal beliefs were Christians. My Philosophy and Science profs pretty much went out of their way to avoid people figuring out their views though, which I think was damn respectable. I guess its the difference between having a faith that commands evangelism and being an open-minded rationalist who values people to think for themselves.
TaylorX04 2 years ago
They are always running their mouths about Jesus....
TheSmartestOneHere 2 years ago
very appropriate song at the end.
kellydoll19 2 years ago
Buddhism is a godless religion.
Rahab111222 2 years ago
this dude brock can't even begin to imagine an ideology that is not fear-based, to claim that we should fear secularism - when the alternative is seen today in countries like saudi arabia, iran, pakistan, afghanistan, nigeria ... all countries that are profoundly hostile to democracy and human rights, where people are stupid and superstitious, education of the populace is the last priority of the government and many of these countries are ruled by autocrats. should we now strive 4 that?
saadaya 2 years ago 2
Brock is proving what most polls suggest, that stupid people are usually religious, and the more extreme they are, the dumber they seem to be.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago
This asshole kind of looks like venomfangx, but fatter.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago
More American.
m3th0dm4n 2 years ago
I've had one science instructor that was a creationist. He showed us creationist films. He also misquoted the book as to make students think that the book held some kind of proof that God existed. But that was only one of many. Other then him I've never had an instructor go on any sort of rant.
Akomodrol 2 years ago
really , report him he should get fired for that , some court in the states ruled against allowing that crap in schools
sausage4mash 2 years ago
I've never had the experience of professors preaching in class.
I do recall some students actually challenging a professor in an environmental science class when the professor was just presenting the science of how man-made chemicals can build up to a deadly level in the environment. The student/s thought he was presenting a biased view.
I have a feeling this is the sort of thing Brock refers to; facts that don't agree with his worldview I'm sure are seen as elitist lies.
TZ3k 2 years ago
Godlessness is not religion. A secular/scientific world view is open to revision in the face of evidence. A faith based one is not, they are not at all the same thing.
ethosflux 2 years ago
I hate hearing this guy...
deathberry0 2 years ago
Why listen?
Vilemk0 2 years ago
Great video. Brock's comments on college scream Fox News and the right's unabashed hatred of anything intellectual. For fuck's sake, these are the people who think wisdom falls from the lips of Sarah Palin. As for secularism, many Christians confuse secularism for atheism, though anyone with Google or a history lesson could tell the difference.
ThePunkReturns 2 years ago 2
A rather good video. With content like this, I'd think you'd have more subscribers. I know people are attracted to TJ's theatrical approach, but I appreciate a more moderate presentation as well (also why I like Thunderf00t).
EDOfyingFilms 2 years ago 4
great vid 5/5
psychokilla6669 2 years ago
Hissssss
Tolarence and understanding!
IT BURNS!!!
TheDeadApple 2 years ago 4
I always like it when people go on about how 'acadaemia is useless crap maaaan' while using their digital webcams and computers, living in a comfortable house with the full benefits of modern medicine and agriculture, and generally basking in the fruits other people's accadameic accomplishment. Oh sweet irony!
He should move into a shed he built himself and grow all his food by hand, at least then we wouldn't have to listen to this boring rubbish.
SkepticsClaw 2 years ago 4
I actually have had one professor go on somewhat of a tie-raid. He was a creationist. It was just after the Dover trial, was wildly incoherent, and lasted 15 minutes.
Dashes000 2 years ago 3
@Dashes000 Kind of surprising, i've never had a prof go on about a political world view for more than a few minutes. Yes, during the iraq invasion in 2003, I did have a proof in a stats class spend about 5 minutes saying bush was a moron... funny thing is no one seemed to have a problem with that perspective at the time.
ethosflux 2 years ago
I was surprised as well. For the most part tho he was deliberately vague. He gave a short rant about the odds of an eye coming about, then said something about the only way you could disprove the theory of evolution was "if it was [literally] spelled out in the stars one night."
Before moving to teaching CS, he wrote machine code IBM; this guy was NOT a stupid person. Nonetheless, there he was, making a complete fool of himself.
I was fucking dumbfounded. o.0
Dashes000 2 years ago
pssst: tirade. (Unless you mean your professor stole all of your neckties.)
Sorry, I really not trying to be an ass, but I just had to point that out. I love hilarious misspellings.
mixxycan 2 years ago
Um... did Brock just call out geometry as an atheist conspiracy?
SisyphusRedeemed 2 years ago 3
That's what it sounded like to me. I reckon this is a latent argument that Brock will plagiarize in the future from, iirc Augustine, against mathematics.
Celephais42 2 years ago
I bet he had to plagiarize that terrible idea from some other shitty youtuber.
JeffSims009 2 years ago
Well as almost all scientific disciplines agree with the theory of evolution creationists seem to think all science is a conspiracy.
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
Brock makes me very angry, and yet I laugh because the truth of the matter is that he's a moron who plagiarized, was caught, and didn't want to admit he was wrong...it's sad that anybody would actually take this guy seriously.
silver6kraid 2 years ago 3
brock makes me want to vomit ...and im not saying that jokingly..he seriously makes me physically ill
UncertainTruth 2 years ago
So if I go ahead and transfer to Harvard department of Chemistry from a foreign university, I should expect long talks about gender diversity?
No of course not Brocks just sinning to the camera.
I want him to give examples of how he is keeping the world afloat, and explain away all the apparent benefits of research, academics and technology.
Nashy119 2 years ago
i laughed so many times, your bewildered expression at Brock's non-sense is priceless
great vid!
queenboxi 2 years ago 3
Tooltime, what branch of philosophy are you going to specialize in?
longhornman99001 2 years ago
I had a history professor that presented the evidence against the Abrahamic religions when he cover the Middle East. He was a dick about it and he got information wrong. But it was balanced out by my sociology professor that talked about "scientists" disagreeing with evolution/abiogenesis.
lordcheetah 2 years ago
Hats off to you for sitting through one of Brock's videos. I can't take his unbelievable smugness for more than a couple of minutes.
versanil 2 years ago 2
"Oh no! Not tolerance and understanding!" LOL, that cracks me up.
So his message is "go to college, but don't actually learn anything"? So we can be successful like him, I presume?
samOFblorx 2 years ago 2
I like how Brock says "those of us who are keeping this world afloat."
What the fuck has Brock done to keep the world afloat? What are his contributions toward humanity? Exactly what positive impact is an ego maniacal, WLC plagiarizing, douche bag having on the world.
Fuck Brock.
baudiirocz 2 years ago 3
Seeing TheAtheistAntidote makes me miss VFX. VFX was at least a bit entertaining and we all loved to hate him, but TheAtheistAntidote is just a douche.
DaDaWgLLS 2 years ago 8
The fact that he can misrepresent college classes in such a way shows that he has never been to college. Either from lack of motivation or lack of intelligence. Take your pick.
CarpeOmne 2 years ago 3
I've taken two Philosophy of Ethics courses at a public college (the 2nd being on Ethics & Religion in particular) and in neither case did the professor lecture his personal views on the subject (not once.)
Maybe Brock can take up another imaginary crusade... like the War Against Christmas next ;o)
(More like a war against people who are celebrating the season who are not Christian. What's the reason for the season? Either Greek pagan holidays or maybe just the fact that its damn cold out!)
myintellectualjourny 2 years ago
You cited a member of your student council whose only "liberal characteristic" you cited was antisemitism. Perhaps this was a poor choice of words on your part?
antybu86 2 years ago
Okay, well, I just want to be clear: You're now saying that the bias is not widespread, but mainly limited to those two subjects? And of those subjects, the shift to the left isn't overwhelming, and of that shift, only a small minority of professors actually use biased grading methods?
So, in other words, there really isn't much of a bias at all in universities.
antybu86 2 years ago
My professors have been extremely tolerant and non-partisan.
UncomfortableSilence 2 years ago
You've been trying to connect antisemitism with liberalism. Are you now trying to back off from this point? If so, then please don't cite a single person's antisemitism as evidence for their liberalism.
antybu86 2 years ago
Deryk, extremely large portions of universities are dedicated to these subjects. In fact, it's probably the minority of classes that deal with politics at all. So, how can you then claim that there is some widespread bias? How can you agree with Brock about "geometry 101" being biased?
Furthermore, not all professors are liberal and of those that are, many have the ability to grade objectively (you seem to be completely missing this point).
antybu86 2 years ago
You know what strikes me most about this Brock guy?
His ever-present creepy grin with the mad twinkle in his eye. You can tell he's just about the smuggest SOB you've ever seen with the way you can practically watch him pat himself on the back over his supposed brilliance every split second of every clip Tooltime has shown.
And that sort of hubris combined with his arrogance just creeps me out something fierce.
Thanaeon 2 years ago
"put a political spin on math."
Exactly my point. There is no political bias within science and math departments - negating your idea that "professors bring their personal biases with them into the class room."
"...in reality I would be blacklisted."
Deryk, I've appealed exams and papers graded by TAs before, and I've never been "blacklisted." This is pure nonsense.
antybu86 2 years ago 2
@deryk359
Sure, people in general cannot see beyond their own personal interests. However, to say that it is only limited to liberal and conservative is only a superficial observation.
I should note that I've only seen two professors give bad grades to skimpy girls. Not only that, but they only picked on a few girls who, after peer reviewing their papers, deserved much higher grades.
Sure, professors have biases, but so does everyone else. Most people simply cannot see past their own
underpantssquirrel 2 years ago
(continued) personal interests.
underpantssquirrel 2 years ago
Oh, come on! Deryk, you make great videos. You're a smart guy. How the hell are you buying your own bullshit?
So, the majority of Jews in the U.S. hold antisemitic views? Every Rabbi that came out against the formation of Israel (there were a lot of them when it formed) is antisemitic? What the hell are you talking about?
Deryk, I AM Jewish and I've NEVER gotten any antisemitism from any liberal when supporting Israel.
antybu86 2 years ago 2
good posts bro
Menla1 2 years ago
Yeah, I go to Georgia State University and the prof's there don't go on rants about there personal opinions at all.
blahben342 2 years ago
Yet your main example was a personal experience wherein you got a bad grade on an essay, assumed it was due to the position you took, and failed to properly appeal? Come on. I hope you don't expect me to buy that.
You know, most of my professors in science/math were and are probably liberal (based on the statistics), but I've never heard anything even vaguely political come out of their mouth. And you're suggesting that they grade with a bias? How do you grade multiple choice with a bias?!?
antybu86 2 years ago 3
I figured it all out and I am wrong! wait... how does that work?
Durakken 2 years ago
@deryk359. I've actually seen many liberal professors give A's to conservative students. Why? Because even though they didn't agree with the content, the conservative students put effort into their papers and did some honest research.
For the most part, I've seen professors grade quite fairly, at least when it comes to politics. (I've seen feminist professors give bad grades to girls who dress skimpy- liberal or conservative.)
underpantssquirrel 2 years ago
As a Christian subscriber of yours, I agree'd with most every point you made. State funded education should go away. The governments only role should be to keep the peace among the people and maintain a military. Anything thing else should fall to the mayors and governors.
And I'll also say you're correct on your whole college bit too. Its always possible to be wrong.
siekertr21 2 years ago
That's an odd connection seeing as the majority of Jews are liberal or moderate... it's even more odd considering that the only openly antisemitic groups I've ever heard of are extremely right-wing (the BNP would be a good example of this). I think you're confusing antisemitism with issues concerning the state of Israel (it's not like all Jews live in Israel or agree with it's actions, but are clearly not antisemitic).
antybu86 2 years ago
So, the studies I've seen show that around 20% of college professors consider themselves slightly to extremely conservative. Does that mean that universities have a 1/5th conservative bias against liberal students? I'd have a hard time buying your connection.
The reason you're sounding like somewhat of a conspiracy theorist here is that you are claiming that there is some institutionalized persecution which you are basing largely on the fact that you got a bad grade once.
antybu86 2 years ago
Brock makes me want to puke. On his shoes.
OraculusMaximus 2 years ago
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OraculusMaximus 2 years ago
Okay, I'm not sure how antisemitism relates to liberalism, but I'll just ignore that oddity for now.
I'm still not sure what a "marker" is, but again, it's actually very easy to go straight to professors for a re-grade (in fact, that is standard practice for all exams graded by TAs). Never taken econ or business at a university level, but my history, English and social sciences classes, again, never really involved politics and ENCOURAGED respectful debate over whichever topics were covered.
antybu86 2 years ago
You're getting very close to conspiratorial thinking here. Are the majority of college professors liberal? According to studies, yes, but does that mean they are corrupt for being liberal? Definitely not.
In my experience, professors are primarily concerned that you simply learn the material.
antybu86 2 years ago
seems like brock is getting more and more angry in these videos...
i hope a mental breakdown ensues...
=]
thisguysajerk 2 years ago
At my College the teacher used to sacrifice ducks, geese & other farm birds during intermission. Which was okay. But then he would just talk & talk & talk about how he was a Social-Democrat. That was kind of boring...so im in favor of teachers being religious but NOT sharing their personal beliefs with students
Espinozaize 2 years ago
I just love those intros
steinarrexfaroensis 2 years ago
Oh Brock, my fist wants to make kissy with you.
Nades129 2 years ago
ok,i stopped this at 1:42,now im not a fan of politics and i refuse to watch any news broadcasts on tv but if any fellow canadians can enlighten me,is church and state or PROVINCE i guess a strong issue over here?
TLSlayer 2 years ago
Well, you must go to a very, very small school if the professors in a specific department are all acquainted with university administration. This, of course, also ignores the fact that there are usually student representatives on these review panels. It also assumes that all these administrators are corrupt people with little concern for giving you a fair grade... but whatever, maybe your school is just that bad.
Still, there's something about your story which doesn't add up for me... (cont'd)
antybu86 2 years ago
Specifically the part about the "marker" (whatever that is) standing you up. Every single TA and Prof. I've ever had holds regular office hours. Did this "marker" not hold office hours? At the very, very least, you couldn't you have made a photocopy of the graded paper, written a long note explaining why you feel you deserve a better grade, and dropped it off at this person's office? Was the marker a TA or a professor? If it was a TA, did you go to the professor?
antybu86 2 years ago
(cont'd)
I mean, it's one thing to have a problem with one specific "marker" and it's an entirely different thing to paint the ENTIRE university system of the united states as "corrupt liberals" (the position of Brock's which you seem to agree with).
Besides, maybe (just MAYBE - I have no idea), you could entertain the possibility that it wasn't that great of an essay.
antybu86 2 years ago
None of brock's thoughts or opinions are his own. You are really arguing against a bunch of dead guys, and hack apologists, not brock.
rustyshackelford1980 2 years ago 4
It really puzzles me why the religious right wing continues whining about this. The Supreme Court ruled on religion in schools long ago. Jaysus, try joining the modern world people!
papafox 2 years ago
The USSR was a secular state. The first state to declare itself officially atheist was Albania in the 60s.
RevolutionarySpectre 2 years ago