Pierné - Piano Concerto in C minor- I Allegro

[s1earle]

Consider that the mass of present day pianists can only make their fame and fortune from performing the 'standard and boring masterpieces' - not many venture into the unknown even though there are many great pieces worth discovering and playing: Perhaps technique also plays a part as many present day pianists are vastly over-rated in this capacity...

[pianomangabe]

Wow this is great! First time listening to Pierne. Very moving.

[EvanWaggerman]

What orchestra is playing this in the video?

[somnynightin78]

the commencement of section A is the best part.

[Busoni72]

A wonderful and powerful beginning.

[NoirOrchestre]

Merci de m'avoir fait découvrir cela. Thank you for this.

[chutdigadut]

this is amazing! Why wasn't Pierne more well known?

[CheekyVimto08]

this is actually a really strong composition

[gerardbedecarter]

Thanks for uploading this interesting piece.

[newgeorge]

he´s a sort of hybrid: some very French touches in the middle melody but the C minor sections are perhaps too contrived and dont reallydevelop enough. The piano writing is interestingly Tschaikovskyesque at times and there are even pre-Rach shades. I wonder how he was viewed by his contemporaries?

[ASAngelo]

Magic.

[jcsiegelman]

Marvelous!!

[thegreatapologist]

Its good, but I feel that you can't hear the piano enough. The orchestra overpowers it, although I'm not sure if that's a compositional trait or just this recording.

[cedricrlongreen]

How come I've never heard this piece...Amazing

[cedricrlongreen]

Wow! I just clicked on this and I'm in love

[AlexandreJdB]

How can you play a concertos like Mozart's concertos after listen to this!!!!! It's just wonderful!!!!

[steeeeevve]

No originality but some individuality.

[steeeeevve]

This piece is not within a million miles of Saint Saens or Chopin.

[titusbeertsen]

@steeeeevve Would you be so kind to explain why?

[steeeeevve]

@titusbeertsen

A lack of great melody.

A lack of deep feeling.

A lack of originality.

[titusbeertsen]

@steeeeevve Hmm, I thought the melody starting at 1:26 to be pretty strong, but I have to agree the whole piece is harmonically a bit 'safe'. The left hand triplet part at 4:09 is quite pretty I think. But then again the chords at 5:25 are a bit silly. But still, overall not a bad piece. I don't thinks it lacks feeling, it has a great romantic feel to it IMHO. Lack of originality: perhaps. But that is not the most important thing right?

[steeeeevve]

@titusbeertsen

1. The melody at 1.26 is strong in the sense of "masculine" but it is not strong in the sense of individuality.

2.The music is pretty at 4.08.

3.The piece has a romantic sweep to it but then it is written in the romantic style so that is hardly surprising.

4.Nothing you have said contradicts the vast inferiority of this piece to the Great Masters.

5.Originality is important as in The Carnival of the Animals and Chopin's first Ballade.

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve Originality is only important in so far as it preserves our enjoyment. This piece is still enjoyable, so originality is irrelevent.

[steeeeevve]

@thegreatapologist

Yes, but it would be MORE enjoyable and a GREATER WORK OF ART if it was original.

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve Well, we're all stealing from the Greek pitch structures. No music really is original anyway. I don't feel that the "lack of originality" detracts from this.

[steeeeevve]

@thegreatapologist

When people say "originality" they not speaking of ABSOLUTE originality!

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve Where's the line drawn then? This piece is romantic. So, it will sounds a little like Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, etc. But that is where that line is drawn.

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve You know, you haven't really said why you don't think its original. What is it about this that you feel is taken from other works?

[steeeeevve]

@titusbeertsen

Regards.

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve Lack of deep feeling? Lack of great melody? IDK what you're talking about.

[steeeeevve]

@thegreatapologist

How much classical music do you know?

Do you know all the famous Romantic piano concertos? by Grieg, Chopin,Rachmaninoff,Tschaikovs­ky..

[thegreatapologist]

@steeeeevve I've played piano for eleven years.

The chopin concerti...Those concerti are just bad. Miserable orchestration. I have listened somewhat to the rach concerti, although I am not as familar with them as I would like. I'm not really that much of a fan of Tchaikovsky. I prefer the Russian nationalist composers when I listen to Russian, and the western composers when I'm listening to western music. But that's just a preference. I still admire him as a composer.

[AlexandreJdB]

@thegreatapologist I agree that the orchestrations of chopin's concerti are not very good but the piano part of the first concerto is just perfect! It's one of the greatest concerto ever written (IMO). But I agree that "russian concertos" are great too...

[masterofmetallica09]

@steeeeevve This piece has a lack of Melody, feeling and originality? What's the next thing your gonna preach, that Alkan's pieces are easy to play?

[steeeeevve]

@titusbeertsen

It is witless.

[JohnEBPiano]

Brilliant! I am buying this right away, thank you so much Hexameron.

[Lukecash12]

I like how the ostinato and arpeggio passages are concise, and very rhythmic. Rather unlike the superfluous scales in a Saint Saens concerto (nothing against Saint Saens or his concertos thought).

[Lukecash12]

Reminds me of Feinberg's third piano sonata.

[Zodiarkz]

I like the mixed difficulty in this piece. Some parts are actually rather easy while others are way up there . It's a shame he didn't get the recognition he deserves, this piece is powerful!

[dalecampbl6]

zzzzzz....

[clarion106]

Hmmm

It could sound a little like Gershwin....

AWESOME PIECE!!!!!!!!

I love the idea of sticking the sheet music with the video!!

Makes it much more interesting!

[84Fish48Fish]

Where's the second movement? Is there a second movement?

[zipronovic]

Pierne' is a great composer ,this piano concert is very romantic and i like very much the begining of concert....very nice

[chexg]

I hear rachmaninoff at 2:51. Although this came before him, so that's amazing to hear

[Alexenzo]

yeah, you are right, pretty amazing.

[muesk3]

I love his modulations at the end!

Great piece of music, one of the best piano concertos I've heard, and I've heard quite a lot!

[Piarajeno]

i am actually in love with this piece! i got through the first round of the BBC young musician of the year. lol if i get through to the finals, this will definitely be the piece i will play!

[ClarkWise]

Awesome! I hope you do.

[psychowolf271]

love that begining..i learned by ear too

[PawelAlbinski]

begening is tricky but i enjoy it :)

[purplekitteh]

woww. i had never heard of this composer; thanks to the uploader :D

[ch252525]

he should be a remarkable composer like Chopin and Saint Sean...

[Sword1479]

@ch252525 This piano concerto does sound very similar to that of Saint-Saens'

[cedricrlongreen]

@Sword1479 Agreed

[MendelssohnCZ]

What a great concerto! Very nice, thanks

[Haeronthegreat]

I hear some Grieg in this as well as Rachmaninov... or is it more Pierne in Grieg and Rach!?

Incredible; I would say superior to Saint-Saens.

[antetdi]

I am playing his Conzertstück for Harp and Orchestra for a competition. It is just as exquisite as this one!

[gregozzo]

I love this concerto so much...

from 2:52 until 3:00 is very similar to the Rach 3 ... beautiful

[FranzofL]

Yes, that melody is very similar...

[123eldest]

exactly what i thought.

[Hexameron]

And yet Rachmaninov was only 13 when this concerto was published...

[kylelandry]

Did you notice the technique called for at 5:25 seems very Rachmaninoff-like?

[kylelandry]

Off the Rachmaninoff topic but,

7:36 .... is "The saints come marching in"

hahaha.

[84Fish48Fish]

@kylelandry

Yes.

Sometimes it's normal for composers to sound like each other because they might be both Russian composers, but in this case, Pierne is French and Rachmaninov is Russian. I'm also kind of befuddled.

Maybe Rachmaninov listened to Pierne...?

[Barnaldomort]

If anyone needs the sheet music to this concerto, leave me a message and i'll email it to you in PDF format.

I recently just acquired it by chance :)

[thegreatapologist]

@Barnaldomort Orchestra also!?

[Barnaldomort]

AMAZING!!!!!!!!

*favs*! I absolutely adore rachmaninoff, and from the first chord haha i sensed him!

brilliant!

thankyou so much, i would never have found pierné without your upload!

[123eldest]

yeh i can definitely hear the Rachmaninoff in this

[shadowrun45]

The climax from G to H (5:26 to 6:00) is overwhelming!

[theo1ch]

1st movement is perfect........3rd is even better, will you upload the 2nd man?

[Hexameron]

With the recent youtube removal of some of my videos, I've tried to refrain from uploading *full works* or the full CD content. It may not make much of a difference to copyright fanatics, but at least I'm not uploading entire CD's (except for Roslavets and Feinberg).

Besides that, the second "Scherzando" is ok, but it's so brief and its melodic content almost cartoonish, that I didn't think many viewers would be thrilled with it. Buy the CD from Berkshire Records Outlet; it's only $6.99!

[theo1ch]

thats fine i understand what you mean........i have acces to naxos and i can listen to it from there, and i also have the score.!! yes the best are the first and third movement.........I just like to listen and watch the score on a video (like your videos)........

[Snafuski]

@Hexameron Hi Hexameron.... Thanks for this amazing work. By the way.... I remember the Berkshire Record outlet when it just started in the 70s I think..... I must have spent 1000s of dollars there over the years....

[DarkRaimundo]

Yes, this music reminds me of Rachmaninoff too.

Thankyou for uploading!

[Lukecash12]

Namely his second piano sonata...

[ch252525]

I sense Rachmaninoff

[regiear1991]

So dramatic and powerful...man, without your channel I wouldn't have found this great piece.

[morvensky]

WOW!

[CZARDASMACABRE]

magnifique vidéo.. merci!!!

[SCOREdom]

superb upload!

[Pironet]

Thank you so much for posting! Very interesting work! I didn't know this composer!

[LeoOrnstein]

Astonishing!

Thanks for posting!