CARL ROGERS AND GLORIA - COUNSELLING - PT 5

[futurebabe8001]

when was this filmed.. and how did she die?

[scotchvelo]

God I wish Carl Rogers was my therapist. I love him.

[Chickenfish42]

Carl Rogers pwns all!

[TurquoiseLamp]

I'll have to watch the Ellis video again -I couldn't keep up with his seemingly forceful and quick-paced technique; but it looked like Gloria was responding to him well. Perls was both amusing and thought-provoking, butI felt that he only ended up proving what I already knew: people who receive negative stimuli will close off, exhibiting fear, anger and sometimes laugh nervously. Gloria may have learned more about her defense mechanisms, but I couldn't see much else coming from that session.

[TurquoiseLamp]

Thank you for these videos. I'm just about to begin a Counselling course, so these videos really help me see the different techniques used. I felt very connected with Rogers' approach. From my perspective, I thought his 'mirroring' quality was very interesting. Perhaps this is a biased view, because I have been on the receiving end of this technique and felt it helped a great deal. At times I was frustrated at not getting direct answers, but overall I gained more inner clarity.

[corradi3]

I know Rogers is good, but I still think that client was an easy one. I wish I could see him counselling some troll who doesn't give a s#$@ about anything and hate the world. I'm curious to see how he would act on that case.

[badbackproductions]

corradi3

my thoughts exactly. this is why person centered therapy is critisized for being appropriate mainly for highly intelligent, verbal and introspective clients. this method will not work on most severe mental illnesses or unmotivated clients. still Rogers is very empathic and this is a very important factor to any theraputic session.

[BigBrauner]

A lovely piece of counseling, but I don't agree with the sentiment expressed by many that seem to imply that Rogers was doing something that no one else can do. He was in many ways first, but others -- you and I -- can and should learn to use active listening, permit our compassionate selves to show but not predominate, and be present in the moment. Easy? No. But we can do this, in or out of therapy.

[letthisloveliveon]

does anyone know what year this was taped?

[fernberger08]

I like that he talks about not really remembering what happened. The 'non-specific' quality of it. That's what it's like. Amazing.

[ilissabanhazlmft]

As a psychotherapist in Glendora, CA, I have to agree with Roger's Person Centered approach. It is about the client's goals and needs.However, I find I must be more directive at times as well as impart information. I guess I'm eclectic! Thanks for the video. 626-335-0903 for counseling...

[FifiLB1]

What a lovely may Carl Rogers seems to have been. And what an invaluable series this was! Check out Fritz Perls and Albert Ellis' session with Gloria if you haven't already. So fascinating how totally different their approaches were. Thanks for posting.

[TurquoiseLamp]

@FifiLB1 Thank you for pointing out the other videos, I wouldn't have known to search them if it wasn't for your comment. They were fascinating!

[popandu]

This guy is such an intelligent man. What a fantastic communicator - just awesome at expressing his thoughts.

[juanrcabrerajr]

Individuals should realize that Rogers' Humanistic Approach to psychotherapy is very much person-centered. The patient is not spoonfed answers as Rogers felt that human beings were rational enough to make decisions on their own. Viewers must also take into consideration that this appraoch does not work with patients who have been diagnosed w schizophrenia. Rogers appraoch shows what he call the three "Necessary and Sufficient" Conditions:Genuineness, Empathy, and Unconditional Positive Regard

[sngngwolf]

Thank you so much for sharing this video in its entirety. Carl Rogers was an amazing therapist, and this session shows the value of the therapeutic relationship and genuine positive regard for the client.

[sidcun10]

i wonder why, bnrocks, you don't feel that Rogers' approach is only applicable in everyday situations and doubt whether it could work in other kinds of situations? What is a non-everyday situation is another question I would have.

[021287B]

My regret is not having a chance to see Carl Rogers :(

I would love to meet him one day and give him a hug. 

[bnrocks182]

This is a pretty interesting therapy session. Though I would say the humanistic approach is only applicable in working for everyday problems. I doubt this approach of counseling could work in other kinds of situations. Though, I do have to say that Rogers is absolutely lovely to watch.

[jagara1]

What a lovely man Carl Rogers shows himself to be ;)

[webdarjeeling]

Not bad. I think as a basic attitude it is very helpful or even indispensable to be emphatic and not to judge. However, I consider Glorias principal topic to be acceptance. And here, first comes self-acceptance. If you accept yourself, you know what to do and you feel free to do what you really want. She doesn`t seem to me like her only physical relationship to men really do her any good, but I am not sure about that. But I think, if she accept herself, she would find out.

[Wanderer123]

Tanks for posting this! Rogers really WAS a wonderful therapist (with a very clear idea about what he was doing).

This, I think, offers some clue to his way of 'working': "... as is characteristic of me, there are not more than one or two statements or incidents which I recall from the interview." (4:56)

[revivalnow]

'The End',

I'm a little annoyed at how the interview ended. It just seems to cut out. Unlike a normal session, it was capped at 30mins, and so couldn't allow the fullness of a normal session. I would like to better know the stages of a session, particularly the ending, but this was sadly suddenly ended

[Nenyana]

Absolutely amasing! Carl Rogers gently travels into Gloria's inscape allowing her to come to her own solutions.

Many people confuse counseling with advice and guidance and this video clearly shows the difference.

[TimKerslake]

That was beautiful!

[Trowerblues]

.....I firmly believe that the job of a counsellor should be to patiently & attentively guide the individual to their desired goal and not to try & impose their own politically correct idea of that goal upon them. Great video!

[Trowerblues]

Thanks for posting this video! I am currently studying Higher Psychology at college & while we only briefly discussed the Humanistic approach, I still find this fascinating. It's amazing how Rogers successfully guides Gloria to realise what is most important to her just by being attentive & accepting of her situation.

[jazzinnature081]

It's amazing how deep this gets in such a beautifully gentle way. Rogers embodies the notion of unconditional acceptance -- the perfect recipe for TRULY being able to help people with their problems. I hope I can be 1/4 as good as he is at reaching his clients. What helps too is her willingness to be so open right from the start with this stranger.

[leewozywarren]

Carl Rogers maintained a relationship with Gloria for 15 years after this session. In today's world of therapy he would be in serious do-da with the UKCP for such countertransference and unprofessional conduct with a patient/client. But he does show us an important approach.

[amit001amit001]

I would also like to see as someone else also mentioned how Rogers creates a facilitating climate for a non/less communicative person...

[amit001amit001]

Rogers reassures Gloria that she would make a good daughter-that is clear countertransference on one hand BUT in my opinion it was huge reassurance to Gloria that she had not necessarily failed as a daughter with respect to her real father-that could be the cornerstone of her conflict within herself-perfectionist idealism and her perceived psychological abandonment by her father could be the reason for destructive patterns with men relived in the 'here and now' -(a hypothesis ala lacking data)

[wuachinkmdb]

GLAD TO SEE

[olujrodjena]

Gloria is so talkative and has obviously experience with therapy. I wonder how Rogers would deal with someone less open and more complicated to communicate with... Although I prefer his calmness and stadyness, comparing to other two therapists

[cattodrums]

where can I buy this video?

[iwasamonster]

thanks for uploading!!!

[978098]

plsss i need it with SUB IN SPANISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! someone would help meeeee

[Concetta0101]

@978098

I would be able to translate this for you. I do charge a fee. Is that something you would be interested in?

[ironjohnlad]

Carl Rogers, probably one of the best therapists int hwe world ! Thanks for posting this, he is such an insperation !

[meazor1967]

Thank your for posting this. Via a text book and listening to my professor you can get the wrong idea on what his approach really is. Listening to him directly practice it is wonderful. Thank you again for taking the time to post this.

[Swansen03]

5:00 to 5:25 ...to me, that is so significant, and thats all i'm really going to say on that. :)

[MissCherie07]

This video has been very helpful for my high school psychology class. Thank you esherborne3!

[simmersimmer1]

Thank you so much to esherborne3 for posting this tape on youtube.

I'm a trainee therapist and had to write an essay on this film. My school only had one copy to go round 20 of us. Your posting meant I could watch it as many times as I liked - I'm really grateful! - you are a kind and thoughtful person.

[Andytheminstrel]

His jacket's off and his tie is loosened. I think he was successful.

[robboholic]

@Andytheminstrel

good behavioural observation, you forgot to mention the heavy breathing at start

[marissaventre222]

Carl Rogers is amazing. His book, A way of Being is pretty much the most important book I have ever read for learning how to be a therapist and a person in general.

[Jamandmand]

Many thanks to esherborne3 for posting the entire Gloria session - I watched the video a couple of times through college, but it's really great to see it again, you can always learn something new from Rogers everytime it's watched! Thanks again!

[8wonderbread]

i saw it in college too (Antioch) , and our prof said that to obtain the video you had to go thru some hoops and it would cost $5000. Antioch had it on loan. I looked for this video many times on youtube, but would only find the two (abusive) sessions of Ellis and Perls; i am overjoyed to see the whole thing posted here now!!! Thank you very much!!!

[lordnigey]

I've just completed a basic 10 week counselling course that concentrated on the Person-Centred Approach. I was really fascinated to see Carl Rogers in action. I thought the power of his approach was evident and he accomplished an amazing amount in such a short space of time. I was particularly interested to see how - without any kind of agenda on his part - Gloria started to really get into some deep and profound self-insights. Thanks for posting this wonderful film.

[jguterman]

At about 7:11 Rogers states: "And like Gloria, I feel very real regret that the relationship cannot continue." But it did continue. Gloria stayed in touch by mail until she died in 1979. She also later wrote about the session

He simply helped me to recognize my own potential--my value as a human being. (p. 141):

Dolliver, R.H., Williams, E., & Gold, D.C. (1980). The art of gestalt therapy or: What are you doing with your feet now? Psychotherapy: Theory, Research, and Practice, 17, 136-142.

[Harzburgitic]

I find it amazing that so many still look for the guidance to come from the therapist. This therapist facilitated and activated a powerful propensity within the client to become more self aware and familiar with navigating her own inner paths, moreover creating her own map. This method really respects the cognitive capacity and ability of the human psyche to connect with it's subconscious by not giving in to the disconnected motor response of complying with an externally motivated instruction.

[Jurijgud]

This is nearly perfect. But I think it is missing some guidance, like cognitive therapy or coaching then this therapy would be perfect. Does anyone know if that kind of therapy exists?

[Beastaphile]

Person centered therapy is designed to avoid client's reliance on the therapist by not offering advice. The function of the therapist is rooted in "being" not "doing". Although I don't see why a therapist couldn't integrate a cognitive-behavouristic element. Today's counselor should not be focused on one technique like Rogers's, it's a buffet, picking and using technique you find valuable.

[Laketilms]

This encounter between Rogers and Gloria is just amazing -- a lovely example of congruence and empathy within a therapeutic setting.

Just a wonderful set of videos, thank-you so much for posting!

[DeadeyeDaily]

I would say that creating transference in one session is quite amazing. That only happens through creating relationship of trust with the client; a deep relationship wherein they see the therapist as a significant figure in their lives, usually from their past. They open up to them and the therapist acts only as a catalyst for the client to work through the issues and come up with their own answers.

[khanshah007]

MI, which is likely the cct, is much more intrested, can allso bee boring with all reflections and repeatings.

[khanshah007]

but its really boring, i suppose that client will not really make it to stay with the therapist. it doesn´t matter how much u will explaned that u cant give an answer.

[ruckels]

Emotional vampire? He let her come to the conclusion that she creates artificial relationships with intelligent men, in order to compensation for her unsatisfactory relationships with her father. That's an amazing revelation for her, one which will make her more aware of the types of relationships she will choose in the future. That's a great outcome for one session.

[Balldez]

He's an emotional vampire. She needed a solution and he didn't give her one. Ellis did.

[esherborne3]

in counselling the counsellor DOES not give the client solutions... The Client finds the solution themselves, especially the person centred approach........

[Balldez]

Then what good is it? People who are troubled are looking for answers and they are going to people who they believe have those answers. Babbling about your neurosis rather than dealing with it is a waste of time.

Rogers is helping her make a mountain out of a mole hill. He was a leach.

[m1ssychr1ssy09]

@esherborne3 SO right.

[netwolff]

@esherborne3

And coming from economy-related consultancy that is unbelieably difficult. There I am expected to give answers and find solutions so the customer feels it is not his responsibility. Maybe that is why I like Rogers so much now that I am turning to counselling.

[antiquatedannomaly]

@esherborne3 yes, if the counselor were to give the client solutions, it would foster dependency, that the only way the client can solve their problems is by coming to the counselor. Also any advice/solutions the counselor gives to the client would obviously not come from the client, and would therefore not take into consideration the subconscious feelings the client has, then when that solution/advice flops, the client would blame the counselor, which would damage the therapeutic relationship.

[jimjacobsen]

@Balldez you're a real idiot

[michaelsummerlin]

this guy is a wizard!

[jamsekelly1]

Watching this session with Carl Rogers and his client always inspires me. His unique non-confusing theory works so well. I feel that you cannot be this type of therapist unless you are genuine with self and client, which he displays so much in this video.

[LBHSJS]

These various sessions with Gloria shows how this therory when applied with genuine feelings towards the client can be so effective when used in the proper manner

[inmancebo]

bla,bla,bla.

[popnorth]

these two got a crush on each other, and wanted to be close. of course he feels regret that the relationship could not continue. she had read his book, and had extensive experience in counseling, and wanted him to approve of, indeed love her. the heightened atmosphere of the hot lights, only served to intensify what is a very subtle and moving mutual seduction.

i reckon he helped by raising her standards of which 'single men' she would take home with her, could they match up to carl?.....

[gordn04]

Mr Rogers made "gloria" to realise that deep down that she had issues with regards to how her dad was with her. this is why she wanted her children to see the true "gloria" even though at the time they were too young to understand.

[gnikhilg]

what a sincere man!

[windymi11er]

If Carl Rogers had been around 500 years ago he would have been burned as a witch. Then after a period of realisation, would have been canonized and become St, Carl.

The man was and is a genius,

[hawkhandsaw]

They were both beautiful human beings who had a profound effect on each other, and on me as well.

[HaywireOnFire213]

A father's acceptance of a daughter. This is what Gloria so deeply desired, but did not get from her father. If there weren't all those lights and cameras on her and all those people behind the cameras looking at her I believe she would have started deeply sobing because of the acceptance she was feeling from the man sitting across from her. Another therapy session with Gloria would have done the trick for Rogers, not doubt about it.

[Amhlair]

Not to sound cheesy (who cares, right?) but when I watched this 25 years ago as a psychologist in training, I was moved as if by a religious experience. I was afraid on watching it again it wouldn't be the same. It was.

[HaywireOnFire213]

Don't you just love Carl Rogers? Do you practice person-centered therapy? If so, are you successful in alleviated mental illness and/or promoting growth in your patients?

[ytcomposer]

NOTHING cheesy about it. I've only seen this video in class a few months ago, as this is my first year in my studies. I realized that day that I was in the right place, and I finally was learning what I had wanted to learn. Almost a psychological nourishment. (OK, that one might be cheesy. :p )

[Amhlair]

Then cheesy we'll be!

A Way of Being (Cheesy) :-))

[dambalasic]

CARL ROGERS is a P.I.M.P. he was almost flirting towards the end almost about to close the deal. but the filming wraped up.. sucks

[Dino19953]

When is rapport building, flirting? Carl Rogers created a masterpiece. He modeled S.O.L.A.R., and M.I. perfectly. Carl Rogers was absolutely brilliant.

[HaywireOnFire213]

What's S.O.L.A.R. and M.I.?

[PenguinUK1701]

S.O.L.A.R means:

Sitting at a comfortable angle

Open posture (arms and legs uncrossed)

Leaning forward once and a while

Affective eye contact

Remaining relatively relaxed

Not sure about M.I., hope that helps.

[HaywireOnFire213]

Thanks.

[khanshah007]

M.I is really intersted method, it works and its almost like the centerd therapi. mi sounds verry easy so you wouldnt belive. but verry effective

[khanshah007]

MI. is motvitional interviewing.

[xrnts]

gloria had experience with three therapys who did she think helped who insulted her post interview? brillant book by daughter pamela burry - living with the gloria films

[imfeliz202]

I think Rogers does a fantastic job of staying non-judgemental and not giving advice. Instead, Rogers draws out what it is Gloria finds most important-honesty. Some therapists could not create that self-realization in ten sessions, much less one like Rogers does. He focuses on Gloria and brings out her values. This can't be easy, as even today single parents have to wrestle with bringing dates to the house, and how honest to be with the kids. I find this to yield practical results as is.

[JosephOD]

At first I was thinking that Rogers wasn't doing much, but then I realized he was probably more focused on establishing an atmosphere of unconditional positive regard, than he was on giving direct advice to specific problems. I can see how future sessions would probably yield much more practical results.