well the guy is sorta right i mean no one goes to hell, you "sleep" when you die and then when god comes he brings the good and sets fire to earth for 7 days and the wicked die along with satan and then god will bring the new jerusalem to earth, in the bible it says that if you wonder where i got that, so yeah
I feel sorry for the guy who published the video. He has not a good knowledge of Holy words of God! If you deny Jesus work on earth and dont believe he died for our sins u really are a sinner,because you deny GOD our Lord too. Is only the Holy Blood of Jesus what can wash our sins off,nothing alse!If you do not believe it means u deny his existence and his work so u also deny words of GOD! U should get to know Jesus first before u say something so evil about it!
I know your trying to clear misconceptions about Islam, but calling names to non Muslims only keeps them far away from Islam. Because they attack Islam, doesn't mean you have to use bad language to attack back, which is haram in Islam, and no kufar would want to know Islam the way you propagate it ?(even though its logical), if you use any bad language, as this invites the devil who influences kafirs to stay away from Islam, because of the bad language you use. salam
salam, stop swearing so much in your vidz, this symbolizes a non muslim. Also, stop swearing at other religions and calling names, as this is not the right way to convey the message of Islam. I am also a muslim, and I don't do dawah by calling names to non muslims or other religions. When you abuse other religions by calling names, your indirrectly inviting satan to attack back, through the non muslims, so please dont try and shove the truth down people's throat.
Investigate...Many people have in history tried to re-write the prophesies of the Old Testament, and the whole purpose of the Old Testament...which is that we alone are destined to Sin without God. We had a "contract" with God, revealed through Moses, which Islam embraces. In the middle of going further, you tell me first what that contract is.
ur just not getting it...... for jessus to have died for ur sins u would have to recieve that in ur heart... as in recieving him as ur lord and savior ... that is the only way it takes affect... without him in ur heart u are lost ... in sinn...
Yeah, I should have mentioned that too. It's not ok to be a rapist, because first of all, those who sin unrepentantly are doing something unfavorable in God's eyes. Secondly it's not good for you, because you fall into losing faith which is brought by God's Grace. Finally, it's not so great to be doing something contrary to what Jesus did for us.
telur...I am misunderstanding...what is so funny? If I'm following the right thought, Christians from time to time say bad things, but we cannot and do not force people to think our way. That is God's choice, not ours.
Investigate - more seriously, why do you talk like this? Who would even consider Islam as a faith when your language is about destroying "every rock" in a country? Do you really think that's the path to justification with God? Do you have to go through such extremes of violence to win God's favor? I think you have a perverted view, and not one shared by most Muslims.
cont 3 - having said that, be aware of Christians who are false prophets ( also dealt with not so kindly ) who fail to recognize that it is God's grace that saves you. You still cannot work your way into favoritism, even by screaming your head off in the mall!
The whole Old Testament is a lesson in our failure to be sinless in God's eyes. In the OT there are also the prophets who agonize about trying to be sinless, and can't be, and who are looking for a savior. Jesus was that savior who forgave us our sins, BUT...you still have to believe. The last book of the Christian Bible, Revelation, is quite clear about what happens to those who don't believe even though they were relieved of their sinful nature by Jesus.
Seems you stubbled actually on the major difference between Islam and Christianity: In Islam you believe that by working at it, you can remain unsinful and therefore be in God's favor by works alone. Christians believe that you are sinful from birth, and no matter how hard you try, you will always mess up and be sinful.
Whats a Moeeszlim??? Plus You are very wrong & confused! Jesus DID die for every sin! Even not excepting Him! The Point is you have to except his Saving grace! Its Free all you have to do is except him! He excepted ALL your sins You have to except him & by doing so your forgiven! If you sin you ask for forgiveness & your forgiven! Just because you talked to a stupid Christian man doesn't mean your logic is right! Get a Clue! Its Not hard to understand this! Children understand this!
@IrelandsCrusader tell me one place in the bible where jesus himself said that he's coming to die on the cross to wipe out sins of the world! or one place where jesus himself said 'I'm God'...he said..'My father is greater than I'..do you know the meaning of greater than..it's simple mathematics!..Jesus said something else and you're teaching the world something else!!! Get a bible..and read every single verse of it..
dudes if u really wanna learn about christianity and/or its flaws open a bible or smth instead of going up to missionaries...most of em dont really know a lot... oh try going to a monastery or smth...maybe you'll get lucky there...or try an orthodox church...u never know....
isnt laughing like this and calling these christians stupid like this, kind of a mockery and an insult to ppl in itself. msulims call christians stupd like this in arab countries and christians do the same, so there is not too much difference in that sense.
Sin is breaking the laws given to Moses and the 10 commandments, which is also doing what The Most High has said not to do, and not doing what The Most High has said to do.
don't call me a dumb fuck when your the fucking idiot. A sin is when you do something thats wrong to the FAKE religious god. A sin was used by religous leaders before the bible, and it's mainly used in the CHRISTIAN bible. So shutup and go away...
wow all you can say is you fucking idiot. Your so smart, oh wait your stupid enough to not know I was being sarcastic just then. So SHUTUP you haven't said anything that proves your point. You just a little wrong whiny bitch...
WTH??? Jsut because it's in the english dictionary DOES NOT mean it's an english word, der der der. What grade are you in first??? Oh wait first grade would be to smart for you... SO SHUTUP!
Jesus! (oh wait he wasn't real) Dude, just cause your wrong doesn't mean you have to be so freaking mean. I was only being mean cus you were. So are we fine?
hmmm...and being "antichristian" makes u proud hu? let me ask u something what does ur god teach u? my God teaches me to be nice and love people..if they have a religion well...God knows what hell do with them,but my God is not a religion to him BE THE GLORY!!!!! so been rude makes u proud and talkin about other people's points of view just because they dont think as u do? hmmm see my God doesnt teach me that ,but once again owell!! =D GOD BLESS YOU!!!
The thing here my friend Is that u are trying to understand the bible ur own WAYY!!! Jesus is the Father Wether u like it or NOT! =] u should ask him!
In Christianity we believe in a Triune God, which I know is totally contrary to Islam, and to human logic. The basis for this are numerable Biblical passages. The very first indication is the First chapter of the first book Genesis, in which God describes himself as "We" and "Us". For the other references, I would have to do my homework! but I would be happy try to answer this a little better than my amateur way.
Heck, even in the Qur'an does God sometimes refer to Himself as We or Us. Firstly, it could either mean We (Him and the angels) brought down the rain, or such and such example. Another explanation was, and even the Queen of England does this, that the 'We' used in the Bible and the Qur'an shows a 'royalty' or 'respect' grammar. Where, instead of using 'I', the Queen uses 'We'. This is meant for those with royal blood or sumthing like that.
I agree telur. I was trying to respond to another fellow in here who asked if Jesus was prophesied in Isaiah 600 years beforehand, what was that book written in past tense. This format is hard to respond with...I never get my comments in the right spot!
Maybe telur, but I only gave the first instance of God describing himself as a multi-being. There are lots and lots of references, such as God appearing as a Holy Spirit in one place, as Jesus in another, etc.
It doesn't make sense if you try to put God's terms into our reasoning. The Bible says that God is three beings, starting with the book describing Abram that Muslims use - Genesis. In chapter 1, 26 for example,God begins to say He is "we" and "us". And it goes on from there.
I'm conused.... are you Christian or Muslim??? and would you rephrase your comment??? Don't worry... its not you... its me.... not fully comprehending what you're tryna say.
Ur funy...well with ur human eyes u wouldnt understand,but once again read the bible...and that will let u know whatever u want to know. end of story.
And also it says that Jesus said that he made everything clear and never teached something in secret and God is recorded to say God is not the Author of Confusion!
So this means you must hear the truth and understand it and make it clear and dont confuse
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works."
Here Jesus manifests His total unity with His Father. For although He Himself is God. If u want u can read the rest,but thats more than enough,but i guess thats how u see things...so God Have mercy on You..and God bless U!! =]
How can God be in Jesus when Jesus claims He is in Heaven???
that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John 17:21)
Here Jesus claims to be in the Father
so is it Jesus in the Father of the Father in him?
Well with his death Jesus opened the doors of heaven,which were closed with the original sin from the Garden of Eden.Thats why salvation is given..for those who have faith,
and yes we still sin but we have !remorse!<<and thats because we are HUMANS! we are not God. and im sorry but, Sweety u can read !! so im just gonna give u part of what he Says!
The good news is that FORGIVENESS of our sins is available.
Jesus died for all of our sins; yours, mine, and the next person.
But, that doesn't mean you are automatically forgiven and, that you are free and clear to do whatever you please like there are no consequences to your actions, even the law we live under won't allow that.
Grow up, open your eyes. You see only what you want. Live for God w/faith or, Don't.
14:6-14 enough said! God Bless U!! and for u all my Christian brothers and sisters here...dont argue with someone that doesnt want to understand...dont waste ur time..we all know That our mighty God is not a religion...but Mr. lnvestigatelslam over here wont understand.. the judgement day is coming and God will judge each one of us! keep reading ur bible and prepare urself!! God bless!!!
Investigate: To answer your question about where in the Bible Jesus says he is God, He says in Luke 24:44 These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled. And in Revelation he is the "Alpha and the Omega", the same wording used in Genesis that God uses to describe himself, "both the begining and the end."
Hebrews 3:14 tells us that we are partakers in Christ IF we continue to the end (till you die - for the rest of your life) to hold true to the same faith we had in the begining.
We don't become followers of Christ for a day or two out of the week or, for a good month and half, three years strong, then, say; 'well, been there, done that'
You either are or, you're not. If you're not why worry about it? If you do worry then, do something about it.
I don't need to prove anything. The proof is in the words of the prophets and the apostles.
You're looking to pick on God. You need to do that with Him, not me. If you want to talk about it, we can do that. If you have a issue, then you need to deal with it.
You need to decide; are you for Him or, against Him?
If you don't believe in God, why does it bother you so much?
Re-examine what it is you are about.
It is difficult to understand but, you and I exist for God's Glory either way you go. Right now we have the opportunity to believe in Jesus as 'Lord' by faith - without having to see to believe. A day is coming soon when ALL will see and beleive and, confess him - but it will be too late.
You and I have been called to change our hearts and minds. And, yes; to repent of our sins. It doesn't mean you are automaticaly "perfect" and will never do anything wrong and, be guaranteed anything by just saying some words.
You must "believe" and, more than that; (faith) you must trust and submit your entire life to Our Lord, Jesus the Christ.
No, you don't have to become a monk or, act like some weirdo in a cult. You live your life in a way you were meant to.
Our Lord and Saviour did die for your sins, my sins and, everyone elses. That is true.
The sins committed by all - past, present, and yes, future.
But, that does not mean you are forgiven of them (your sins).
Repenting means that you turn your life away from sin (disobedience).
Disobey what? Well, Loving God - who loves you despite your sin. And, Loving each other - which means you will not do wrong to another (lie, steal, murder, etc.)
It is true that Jesus, Our Lord and Saviour, died for those sins as well. But, you are not forgiven of them until you turn away from them and, yes, other sins if and when they will occur. It doesn't mean you are free to act and do whatever you may please - without any consequence.
It is true, we are saved by FAITH in God. He saves us. Jesus also does because he is God born on earth killed in human form, shedding His blood to pay for our sins - for one time and all time.
Many many years ago people used to sacrifice animals and, the blood shed was for their sins. Jesus is known as the Lamb of God.
This is true, But, I did not say that ONLY faith saves.
Don't twist words around if you don't have anything right to say.
Deeds are important if according to the Will of God and, through your FAITH in God.
You don't just; 'Not Do Anything' with what you were given - thinking you can do whatever you please or, whatever you don't want to do because; everything is okay now, you did what you were 'supposed' to do.
God born on earth killed in human form, shedding His blood to pay for our sins - for one time and all time.
So i ask you where does Jesus claim to be God born on earth
He calls him self son of man manytimes
He also speaks about God in heaven and prays to God in heaven so how can he be God if God is heaven? are there 2 seprate Gods ? wich is polytheism and against the commandments of God
So according to your logic there is some plave wich is not part of Gods Kingdome?? that means God doesnt own everything and if He doesnt that means He is imperfect
like i said God does Godly Things not Monkey and Human tricks
Like I said before; Don't start twisting words around if you don't have anything right to say.
And, all scripture is God inspired - comes from, guided by, directed by.
You want there to be no consequence to your actions and, for God to exist only how you would like Him to. You don't understand like Satan doesn't understand.
God's Kingdom has no end. His Kingdom is everything and, is in us.
Eternal death isn't sleeping forever, it is seperation from God.
Can someone pray for me or should i buy ticket to heaven...Ups i think i need to deserve my way to heaven,if any1 of you manage to travel with train or something and don't pay tell me,and i will regret to God for not letting me in heaven for free.:) lol christians.good theory,but...no logic.:(
Jesus Chirst (God manafest in the flesh) loves us so much that He came to Earth and paid for all sin. Everything you've done and will do in the future has been paid for in full. John the Baptist proclaimed this:
This could only be done by a pure, sinless scarefice: paid for in blood. Because without shedding of blood there is is no remission of sin.
But only God is sinless, so God had to be our scarefice.
Remember when Abraham was told by God to scarefice his only son Isaac? How He took Isaac to the top of the mountain and prepared an altar. Then Isaac said to his father "Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?" Then Abraham said a VERY interesting thing!
Abraham said, "My son, God will provide himself a lamb" ... you catch that? GOD WILL PROVIDE HIMSELF A LAMB.
BUT, a Ram was provide on that day; not a Lamb. That's because the Lord Jesus Christ was to be the Lamb to be provided: and God did provide himself as the Lamb of scarefice for our sins!!
People are under this crazy notion that they will go to hell for their sins. This is rubbish, all sin has been paid for on the cross!
What you will go to hell for is rejecting Jesus Christ scarefice: God's offer to pay for your sins. See a payment for your sins (atonement) must be paid. God want's to pay it for you; but He won't force it on you, you have a free will and choice in the matter; but if you won't let him, then you'll have to pay for them yourself.
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Please tell me lnvestigatelslam, who else is worthy enough to pay the price of our transgressions?
Please don't make the mistake to trying to reconcile your God with mine. The God of the Bible is not Allah, never was Allah and never will be Allah. They are polar opposite.
[002:037] Then, Adam learnt from his Lord the words (to repent with), and He accepted the repentance. Indeed, He it is Who accepts repentance, and He is the most Merciful.
My Lord Allaah forgives the mistakes of humans Thats why He called Himself Most Merciful Most Forgiven
He promises Forgivenis to any one that follows His Path and repents for his or here mistakes and doesntset up partners next to Him
He says that those that follow His Path Islam will be forgiven and loved
[003:031] Say, "If you love Allah, then follow me. Allah will love you! And He will forgive your sins. Allah is the most Forgiving, and the most Merciful!"
And Allaah never breaks His Promise to the believing man and woman
[003:009] Our Lord! Verily, it is You Who will gather mankind together on the Day about which there is no doubt. Verily, Allah never breaks His Promise".
He tells us to do good deeds and be good to our parents
To gain reward in the hereafter!
002:025] Give the good news to those who believe and do the righteous deeds. Theirs shall be the gardens (of paradise) through which run the rivers. There, as they taste the fruits (of paradise), they would remark, "This, we were given before, too (There, they would certainly be granted the identical (blessings). There, they shall have pure and immaculate mates. And there, they shall live forever!
And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 4:25, Leviticus 4:34, ... and many many more. All talking about sheding of blood for atonement for sin.
But this was just a covering, and not a cleansing, because God requires a pure and holy scarefice, which only Jesus Chirst could fullfil.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Allah is not the God of Abraham, because the God of Abraham is righteous judge, and can not let sin go unpaid for; that would be corrupt, unjust and he'd be a hypocrite.
Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not;
Allah changes his mind at a whim all through the Koran, you wouldn't know where you stand with him.
Sorry lnvestigatelslam, unless you put your complete faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and except his payment for your sin, then you'll die in them, and burn for eternity.
And don't forget investigateislam, they say that Jesus died for ur sins, that mean tere will be no judgement day? Tere will be not judgment of God to me. Cool so i believe in the dead of Jesus.Come on!!! It a contradict religion.
And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Sura 2 Verse 111
Only christians who don't read the whole council of God claim these things. In fact this video is scriptural. God is mearciful. Jesus said: Whatsoever sin a man sinneth will beforgiven him. Blaspheme of the Father and of the Son shall be forgiven him, but blaspheme of the Holy spirit (to say that jesus is the devil) shall not be forgiven in this life or the next. Not exact but close enough. Jesus alos said, I call not the ritgheous to REPENTENCE but the sinners. Real christians accept scripture.
Christ himself gave Paul the authority(Acts 9:4-6)"Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do" That is why I follow Pauls words.
Yes, Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Mathew 5:17)which means he has come to take the punishment we deserve under the law.
Yes, Salvation is achieved by faith alone!Deeds are only an evidence that you are really saved for:"I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;" (Jews 10:16)
Christian salvation can not be achieved by logic, It is achieved by faith.
By the way you logic is stupid. Nowhere in the Bible is mentioned that non-beliving in, and non-accepting Christ is a sin - this is not a sin, but a right of choice of your free will.
So he has not died for you not accepting him!!! Paul says that if you don't accept Christ, you remain under the law, and will be judged according to the law.
And last, Christ himself has said: "no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
That was three questions.
jefeisdguard 5 months ago
Who the heck is Christian_Potato and why are all your videos against him? Back off seriously.
GodsGuy9795 1 year ago
well the guy is sorta right i mean no one goes to hell, you "sleep" when you die and then when god comes he brings the good and sets fire to earth for 7 days and the wicked die along with satan and then god will bring the new jerusalem to earth, in the bible it says that if you wonder where i got that, so yeah
MadZombie14 1 year ago
actually rejecting JESUS IS A SIN AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IS THE ONLY SIN THAT IS NOT FORGIVEN, REJECTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
silly1smiley1 2 years ago
I feel sorry for the guy who published the video. He has not a good knowledge of Holy words of God! If you deny Jesus work on earth and dont believe he died for our sins u really are a sinner,because you deny GOD our Lord too. Is only the Holy Blood of Jesus what can wash our sins off,nothing alse!If you do not believe it means u deny his existence and his work so u also deny words of GOD! U should get to know Jesus first before u say something so evil about it!
360Misha 2 years ago
If Christians say:
"No, it is not a sin" to NOT believe that Jesus die for ALL sins, then it has to be the opposite of a sin, which is a "virtue."
Therefore, it would be a "virtue" (good deed) NOT to believe Jesus died for ALL sins, if the Christian says: "It is not a sin."
Whether it is a sin or not, it will always make sense in this scenario, NOT to believe Jesus died for ALL sins, from a logical point of view.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
LOL
izzatiizzatiizzati 2 years ago
not all christains are stupid like not all muslims are suicidal!!!!
freedomefighter13 2 years ago
Like this cross-baring demon: search "Goths Deserve Rape" on google.
MartyredxMaiden 2 years ago
In fact, I'm a Believer and don't like most "christians". I only like the real ones, not the fake imbisols who endorse rape and damn people to hell
MartyredxMaiden 2 years ago
That guy was ignorant for being illogical and hypocritical however you MUST understand that not ALL Christians are as stupid and flipped as he is.
MartyredxMaiden 2 years ago
Ahaha... But don't insult him...
annoymage 2 years ago
I know your trying to clear misconceptions about Islam, but calling names to non Muslims only keeps them far away from Islam. Because they attack Islam, doesn't mean you have to use bad language to attack back, which is haram in Islam, and no kufar would want to know Islam the way you propagate it ?(even though its logical), if you use any bad language, as this invites the devil who influences kafirs to stay away from Islam, because of the bad language you use. salam
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
salam, stop swearing so much in your vidz, this symbolizes a non muslim. Also, stop swearing at other religions and calling names, as this is not the right way to convey the message of Islam. I am also a muslim, and I don't do dawah by calling names to non muslims or other religions. When you abuse other religions by calling names, your indirrectly inviting satan to attack back, through the non muslims, so please dont try and shove the truth down people's throat.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Investigate...Many people have in history tried to re-write the prophesies of the Old Testament, and the whole purpose of the Old Testament...which is that we alone are destined to Sin without God. We had a "contract" with God, revealed through Moses, which Islam embraces. In the middle of going further, you tell me first what that contract is.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
ur just not getting it...... for jessus to have died for ur sins u would have to recieve that in ur heart... as in recieving him as ur lord and savior ... that is the only way it takes affect... without him in ur heart u are lost ... in sinn...
raymsar 3 years ago
not receaving jesus is a big sin....and yes if you repent he will forgive that sin but...
repenting would mean receaving jesus
sanctifiedbytruth 3 years ago
Yeah, I should have mentioned that too. It's not ok to be a rapist, because first of all, those who sin unrepentantly are doing something unfavorable in God's eyes. Secondly it's not good for you, because you fall into losing faith which is brought by God's Grace. Finally, it's not so great to be doing something contrary to what Jesus did for us.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
what's receaving? That isn't a word, is it?
telur2606 3 years ago
it is a word it means islamist are losers...there 1billion, strong, but cant defeat israel 7million strong...your religion sUkZ
sanctifiedbytruth 3 years ago
Israel is 7 million strong? Well, your intelligence stinkz. Know why? Cause there are only about 6 billion people on earth. You retarded or sumthin?
telur2606 3 years ago
hey, Loser,......read my comment, 7million with "M" even in your reply you said 7 Million.......lol, your retarted,...
P.S,ISLAM IS FOR LOSERS
sanctifiedbytruth 3 years ago
oh crap. My bad.
telur2606 3 years ago
Israel's strength will never be in numbers, because by faith they are, i think, the waekest of the lot.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
Allahhualam
telur2606 3 years ago
Im sorry but i remember a summer when a handfull of hezboAllah soldiers destroyed the army of the zionists
and also israel is fighting 50.000 unarmed palestines and not the 1,4 billion muslims
and also if the muslims really stand up we will destroy every rock in your country
be patient it wil come
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
your people will never stand up together,,
cause my God protects his people israel
keep waiting it will never happen
sanctifiedbytruth 3 years ago
yeah, and then thereafter you'll fight amongs each other about which brand of Islam is true.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
heck... we're already fighting over which brand of Islam is true.
telur2606 3 years ago
Christians are too, but we gave up killing each other over it some time ago now. Now we just hurl insults.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
LOL!
telur2606 3 years ago
omg that's so funny!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
telur2606 3 years ago
telur...I am misunderstanding...what is so funny? If I'm following the right thought, Christians from time to time say bad things, but we cannot and do not force people to think our way. That is God's choice, not ours.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
no... lol... when you said 'now we just hurl insults'... hahaha. I see you fail to see the humor in your own words.
telur2606 3 years ago
Some "Christians" are ignorant lab rats
Not all are as smart as you. there is always at least on wolf in sheep, clothing in every flock of 6
MartyredxMaiden 2 years ago
there is no need for that
if you understand the hadith it talks about imam mahdi the final chalpi who will unite every muslim branch
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Investigate - more seriously, why do you talk like this? Who would even consider Islam as a faith when your language is about destroying "every rock" in a country? Do you really think that's the path to justification with God? Do you have to go through such extremes of violence to win God's favor? I think you have a perverted view, and not one shared by most Muslims.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
its called slef defence
if somebody destroys your house takes your shit like in iraq or trow you out of your land house kill your family like in palestina
you say that you must be quit and say nothing?????
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
cont 3 - having said that, be aware of Christians who are false prophets ( also dealt with not so kindly ) who fail to recognize that it is God's grace that saves you. You still cannot work your way into favoritism, even by screaming your head off in the mall!
xpdnc12 3 years ago
continued...
The whole Old Testament is a lesson in our failure to be sinless in God's eyes. In the OT there are also the prophets who agonize about trying to be sinless, and can't be, and who are looking for a savior. Jesus was that savior who forgave us our sins, BUT...you still have to believe. The last book of the Christian Bible, Revelation, is quite clear about what happens to those who don't believe even though they were relieved of their sinful nature by Jesus.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
Seems you stubbled actually on the major difference between Islam and Christianity: In Islam you believe that by working at it, you can remain unsinful and therefore be in God's favor by works alone. Christians believe that you are sinful from birth, and no matter how hard you try, you will always mess up and be sinful.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
Truly amazing, you have found one of the most perfect loopholes in the nutty religion.
EmoAngel666 3 years ago
Whats a Moeeszlim??? Plus You are very wrong & confused! Jesus DID die for every sin! Even not excepting Him! The Point is you have to except his Saving grace! Its Free all you have to do is except him! He excepted ALL your sins You have to except him & by doing so your forgiven! If you sin you ask for forgiveness & your forgiven! Just because you talked to a stupid Christian man doesn't mean your logic is right! Get a Clue! Its Not hard to understand this! Children understand this!
IrelandsCrusader 3 years ago
We know what you believe. But what's your point?
telur2606 3 years ago
sp why must god die buttnaked on a cross if we can ask for forgivnes from him
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
@IrelandsCrusader tell me one place in the bible where jesus himself said that he's coming to die on the cross to wipe out sins of the world! or one place where jesus himself said 'I'm God'...he said..'My father is greater than I'..do you know the meaning of greater than..it's simple mathematics!..Jesus said something else and you're teaching the world something else!!! Get a bible..and read every single verse of it..
dwarriorwithin 1 year ago
Oh yeah read Matthew 10:37 too!
twoba2 3 years ago
Good points. Too bad you are looking at those who refuse Jesus to be their LORD AND SAVIOR!
The KJV Bible says NOWHERE that not trusting Jesus is a sin, but whoever does not believe is going to have an eternal death.
Read John 3:16 out of the KJV Bible, not anything else for those bibles are wrong.
twoba2 3 years ago
whatever dude...we are all going to hell anyway...if there is one...bcz we fucking suck!
ar87ace 3 years ago
maybe you do, i dont. :)
noBread4u 3 years ago
if u say so...so be it!
ar87ace 3 years ago
Greattttt!!! MAN
SELAM (Peace)
KastriPy 3 years ago
AHAHAHAHHAA true!
HaxorBunnysAnonymous 3 years ago
dudes if u really wanna learn about christianity and/or its flaws open a bible or smth instead of going up to missionaries...most of em dont really know a lot... oh try going to a monastery or smth...maybe you'll get lucky there...or try an orthodox church...u never know....
project25012 3 years ago
lol, yah. You'll get lucky at a monastery if you know what I mean! :)
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
Absolutely brilliant, love it.
zahleeeee 3 years ago
isnt laughing like this and calling these christians stupid like this, kind of a mockery and an insult to ppl in itself. msulims call christians stupd like this in arab countries and christians do the same, so there is not too much difference in that sense.
hsatt66 3 years ago
How is saying 'F*** You' a sin?
Do you know what sin is?
PositiveNature 3 years ago
sin, it's just a christian word for wrong doing
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
Sin is breaking the laws given to Moses and the 10 commandments, which is also doing what The Most High has said not to do, and not doing what The Most High has said to do.
PositiveNature 3 years ago
sin isnt a christian word u dumb fuck its just english idiot
MStycki 3 years ago
don't call me a dumb fuck when your the fucking idiot. A sin is when you do something thats wrong to the FAKE religious god. A sin was used by religous leaders before the bible, and it's mainly used in the CHRISTIAN bible. So shutup and go away...
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
ur a fucking idiot...
MStycki 3 years ago
wow all you can say is you fucking idiot. Your so smart, oh wait your stupid enough to not know I was being sarcastic just then. So SHUTUP you haven't said anything that proves your point. You just a little wrong whiny bitch...
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
u want proof? look in an ENGLISH dictionary to see that it's an ENGLISH word stupid shit
MStycki 3 years ago
WTH??? Jsut because it's in the english dictionary DOES NOT mean it's an english word, der der der. What grade are you in first??? Oh wait first grade would be to smart for you... SO SHUTUP!
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
yes it does you dumb fuck i can't be bthered to talk to somone a stupid as you anymore go away
MStycki 3 years ago
Jesus! (oh wait he wasn't real) Dude, just cause your wrong doesn't mean you have to be so freaking mean. I was only being mean cus you were. So are we fine?
h5e5l5l5o5 3 years ago
haha u just make me laugh sweety.
patitafea17 3 years ago
hmmm...and being "antichristian" makes u proud hu? let me ask u something what does ur god teach u? my God teaches me to be nice and love people..if they have a religion well...God knows what hell do with them,but my God is not a religion to him BE THE GLORY!!!!! so been rude makes u proud and talkin about other people's points of view just because they dont think as u do? hmmm see my God doesnt teach me that ,but once again owell!! =D GOD BLESS YOU!!!
patitafea17 3 years ago
Well it makes me proud to see trough your deception :)
My God teaches me more then that it teaches me to be a pious person
Ofcourse God is not a religion but His way is called Deen wich means way of life according to His Laws and Plans
Im not rude infact i qoute your bible i dont fabricate anything
The bible is your guide right? so why must it be the way you think and not the way the bible says????
understand?
take the gleu from your eyes and take a real look at your faith
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
brother or sister, Islam Teaches to be nice, and love people too.
haumid16 3 years ago
The thing here my friend Is that u are trying to understand the bible ur own WAYY!!! Jesus is the Father Wether u like it or NOT! =] u should ask him!
patitafea17 3 years ago
So where does he say that?
Im the Father?
And you contradict your own faith where Jesus is the Son and God is the Father And the holy spirit and this 3 are one God
So Jesus cant be the Father according to your logic
And he says many times My Father in Heaven not me in Heaven
Ask him give me his mobile number then hahaha
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
In Christianity we believe in a Triune God, which I know is totally contrary to Islam, and to human logic. The basis for this are numerable Biblical passages. The very first indication is the First chapter of the first book Genesis, in which God describes himself as "We" and "Us". For the other references, I would have to do my homework! but I would be happy try to answer this a little better than my amateur way.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
Heck, even in the Qur'an does God sometimes refer to Himself as We or Us. Firstly, it could either mean We (Him and the angels) brought down the rain, or such and such example. Another explanation was, and even the Queen of England does this, that the 'We' used in the Bible and the Qur'an shows a 'royalty' or 'respect' grammar. Where, instead of using 'I', the Queen uses 'We'. This is meant for those with royal blood or sumthing like that.
telur2606 3 years ago
I agree telur. I was trying to respond to another fellow in here who asked if Jesus was prophesied in Isaiah 600 years beforehand, what was that book written in past tense. This format is hard to respond with...I never get my comments in the right spot!
xpdnc12 3 years ago
Maybe telur, but I only gave the first instance of God describing himself as a multi-being. There are lots and lots of references, such as God appearing as a Holy Spirit in one place, as Jesus in another, etc.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
I know. Jesus even prayed to God/Himself. Yeap. Makes a lot of sense <--- Sarcasm.
telur2606 3 years ago
It doesn't make sense if you try to put God's terms into our reasoning. The Bible says that God is three beings, starting with the book describing Abram that Muslims use - Genesis. In chapter 1, 26 for example,God begins to say He is "we" and "us". And it goes on from there.
xpdnc12 3 years ago
I'm conused.... are you Christian or Muslim??? and would you rephrase your comment??? Don't worry... its not you... its me.... not fully comprehending what you're tryna say.
telur2606 3 years ago
i dont get it did u just say he was the "father"
gurelscarfaceturkish 3 years ago
Ur funy...well with ur human eyes u wouldnt understand,but once again read the bible...and that will let u know whatever u want to know. end of story.
patitafea17 3 years ago
What you mean we can not understand ?
This what the bible says,
"Hearing of the Truth" Deut. 6: 4
"Understanding that Truth" John 17: 3
And also it says that Jesus said that he made everything clear and never teached something in secret and God is recorded to say God is not the Author of Confusion!
So this means you must hear the truth and understand it and make it clear and dont confuse
So your claim contradicts the bible
And i KNOW the bible from cover to cover!
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
John 14:10
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works."
Here Jesus manifests His total unity with His Father. For although He Himself is God. If u want u can read the rest,but thats more than enough,but i guess thats how u see things...so God Have mercy on You..and God bless U!! =]
patitafea17 3 years ago
Read this verse
Not every one that says to me(Jesus); 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father, who is in heaven."
Matthew.7:21
How can God be in Jesus when Jesus claims He is in Heaven???
that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John 17:21)
Here Jesus claims to be in the Father
so is it Jesus in the Father of the Father in him?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Well with his death Jesus opened the doors of heaven,which were closed with the original sin from the Garden of Eden.Thats why salvation is given..for those who have faith,
and yes we still sin but we have !remorse!<<and thats because we are HUMANS! we are not God. and im sorry but, Sweety u can read !! so im just gonna give u part of what he Says!
patitafea17 3 years ago
You claim that John 14 says that Jesus is the father so i ask where does he say that
There is no such thing as a orginal sin ! its a teaching of paul not from Jesus
In eziekel 18:20 we can read that God says nobody dies for the sin of others
Jesus is qouted to say that he never came to break the law or bring anything new
So eather God lies
Or Jesus doesnt know the Law
or paul is a liar
choose one
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
You still don't understand because;
You are in denial - swimming :)
The good news is that FORGIVENESS of our sins is available.
Jesus died for all of our sins; yours, mine, and the next person.
But, that doesn't mean you are automatically forgiven and, that you are free and clear to do whatever you please like there are no consequences to your actions, even the law we live under won't allow that.
Grow up, open your eyes. You see only what you want. Live for God w/faith or, Don't.
joemon554 3 years ago
Im not in denial im just a bit confused by the answers i get here
And God said in the bible He is NOT the author of confusion right
So you must be able to use the bible to make thinks clear to me with out being confused
So if your not forgiven why did he die?
to be judge is to have sins so he didnt die for al sins? or maybe he never died for your sins it cant be both right
To live for God w/faith alone is stupid you must have everything clear infront of you and understanding of it
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Jesus is God. Son and father. read Jhon
14:6-14 enough said! God Bless U!! and for u all my Christian brothers and sisters here...dont argue with someone that doesnt want to understand...dont waste ur time..we all know That our mighty God is not a religion...but Mr. lnvestigatelslam over here wont understand.. the judgement day is coming and God will judge each one of us! keep reading ur bible and prepare urself!! God bless!!!
patitafea17 3 years ago
Why must God judge us if Jesus died for our sins? to be judge is to have sins ?
lol its you that dont understand not me.
So where in John does it say Jesus is the father ? or God?
The term of son is used hunderds of times in the bible to other people
Jesus said blessed are the peace makers the will be called sons of God
In psalms it says You are God sons of the Most High
so the term son is title for a rightoues person
so explain 14:6-14 please
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Investigate: To answer your question about where in the Bible Jesus says he is God, He says in Luke 24:44 These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled. And in Revelation he is the "Alpha and the Omega", the same wording used in Genesis that God uses to describe himself, "both the begining and the end."
xpdnc12 3 years ago
This is the most stupid movie I've ever seen. You obviously don't have a clue about anything real.
Saxking2005 3 years ago
Hebrews 3:14 tells us that we are partakers in Christ IF we continue to the end (till you die - for the rest of your life) to hold true to the same faith we had in the begining.
We don't become followers of Christ for a day or two out of the week or, for a good month and half, three years strong, then, say; 'well, been there, done that'
You either are or, you're not. If you're not why worry about it? If you do worry then, do something about it.
joemon554 3 years ago
You still didnt provide the evidence that Jesus is God :)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Jesus says who He is.
You need to read your Bible.
I don't need to prove anything. The proof is in the words of the prophets and the apostles.
You're looking to pick on God. You need to do that with Him, not me. If you want to talk about it, we can do that. If you have a issue, then you need to deal with it.
I'm sure you have other things to do :)
joemon554 3 years ago
You need to decide; are you for Him or, against Him?
If you don't believe in God, why does it bother you so much?
Re-examine what it is you are about.
It is difficult to understand but, you and I exist for God's Glory either way you go. Right now we have the opportunity to believe in Jesus as 'Lord' by faith - without having to see to believe. A day is coming soon when ALL will see and beleive and, confess him - but it will be too late.
'Confess' also means you agree with.
joemon554 3 years ago
You and I have been called to change our hearts and minds. And, yes; to repent of our sins. It doesn't mean you are automaticaly "perfect" and will never do anything wrong and, be guaranteed anything by just saying some words.
You must "believe" and, more than that; (faith) you must trust and submit your entire life to Our Lord, Jesus the Christ.
No, you don't have to become a monk or, act like some weirdo in a cult. You live your life in a way you were meant to.
And, stay true.
joemon554 3 years ago
So no deeds?
Where does Jesus say submit to me ?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
I'm sorry you heard and believe wrong.
Our Lord and Saviour did die for your sins, my sins and, everyone elses. That is true.
The sins committed by all - past, present, and yes, future.
But, that does not mean you are forgiven of them (your sins).
Repenting means that you turn your life away from sin (disobedience).
Disobey what? Well, Loving God - who loves you despite your sin. And, Loving each other - which means you will not do wrong to another (lie, steal, murder, etc.)
joemon554 3 years ago
?
Why turn away from future sins if Jesus died for those sins?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
It is true that Jesus, Our Lord and Saviour, died for those sins as well. But, you are not forgiven of them until you turn away from them and, yes, other sins if and when they will occur. It doesn't mean you are free to act and do whatever you may please - without any consequence.
joemon554 3 years ago
You call Jesus Lord and Savior right?
Isit Lord in a teaching way same way Sarah called Abraham Lord?
Or in a divine way?
And you call him a Saviour but the bible says in Isaiah that only God is the Saviour so for Jesus to be your Savior he mus be God
So can you show me evidence that Jesus is God?
thnx
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Your funny! But, good questions.
Come by my house tonight and, I'll prove it.
Just kidding, sorry, couldn't help it.
It is true, we are saved by FAITH in God. He saves us. Jesus also does because he is God born on earth killed in human form, shedding His blood to pay for our sins - for one time and all time.
Many many years ago people used to sacrifice animals and, the blood shed was for their sins. Jesus is known as the Lamb of God.
And, you what is meant by 'Lord' already.
joemon554 3 years ago
Im sorry but you didnt answer my qeustion :)
You say that only faith saves?
According to my bible faith with out deeds is death,
James 2:14
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?
James 2:17
In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.
Or you are wrong or the bible is wrong,wich one?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
This is true, But, I did not say that ONLY faith saves.
Don't twist words around if you don't have anything right to say.
Deeds are important if according to the Will of God and, through your FAITH in God.
You don't just; 'Not Do Anything' with what you were given - thinking you can do whatever you please or, whatever you don't want to do because; everything is okay now, you did what you were 'supposed' to do.
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joemon554 3 years ago
You said,
God born on earth killed in human form, shedding His blood to pay for our sins - for one time and all time.
So i ask you where does Jesus claim to be God born on earth
He calls him self son of man manytimes
He also speaks about God in heaven and prays to God in heaven so how can he be God if God is heaven? are there 2 seprate Gods ? wich is polytheism and against the commandments of God
And Jesus is reported to say God is one
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Jesus is the Christ - the only begotten Son of God. He is God. And, yes he also prayed to God in Heaven. They are both the same.
'Son of Man' means 'human', 'human being'
He is God born on Earth in human form. And, he is the One True God.
He is God and can do this. Can you?
If you are so well read you would answer your own questions CORRECTLY and not need to be told the right answer.
joemon554 3 years ago
To be begotten is to have a beginning and God doesnt have one.
The bible tells us that Israel (Jacob) was a begotten son of God so where many
Jesus said blessed are the peace makers the will be called Gods
In Psalms it says Gods sons of the most High
And if Jesus is the same as God why must he pray to God? God doesnt pray right?
If God is on eart as human who is the God in heaven wich Jesus called Father and My Lord? and Our Lord?
God cant do everything
I want your opnion
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Jesus can pray to God. God can be Jesus the Son. He can be the Holy Spirit.
Why can't God do everything?
God's ways are above our ways. His thinking is above our thinking.
We follow Jesus - what he does, what he commands. He is our example. How we could ever hope to be like Him, I don't know.
Romans 12:1-2 tells us to not conform to the world and to renew ourselves.
You and I will either be a son of God or, a son of the Devil but, not the Son of God.
Which will you be?
joemon554 3 years ago
I will reply to your comment in a few minutes but first you ask
Why can't God do everything?
Well can God create other God?
Can God kick you out of His kingdom?
Ofcourse not
God is uncreated so there cant be a created God
God owns the whole universe there is nothing outside his Kingdom!
God does godly things no monkey tricks
So He cant be a human because that contradicts Him being God!
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
God can do whatever is according to His Will, not yours and, not mine.
Yes, God can throw you out - to where there is darkness and gnashing of teeth.
Once that door is shut, it is shut forever.
joemon554 3 years ago
So according to your logic there is some plave wich is not part of Gods Kingdome?? that means God doesnt own everything and if He doesnt that means He is imperfect
like i said God does Godly Things not Monkey and Human tricks
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
That is not what I said.
Like I said before; Don't start twisting words around if you don't have anything right to say.
And, all scripture is God inspired - comes from, guided by, directed by.
You want there to be no consequence to your actions and, for God to exist only how you would like Him to. You don't understand like Satan doesn't understand.
God's Kingdom has no end. His Kingdom is everything and, is in us.
Eternal death isn't sleeping forever, it is seperation from God.
joemon554 3 years ago
Since time and space have no beginning or, end to God as we understand, how could you as a human being place him at your level?
God lowered himself and raised himself again. God can do whatever is His Will.
Can you?
You are the clay and He is the potter. Who are you to question the maker?
joemon554 3 years ago
He gaves us logic right?
So i ask you can God lie? Can God die? Can God have a erection?
Ofcourse not because that doesnt fit God
God does godly things no monkey tricks!
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
You said,
shedding His blood to pay for our sins - for one time and all time.
The Question is where does Jesus claim to come to die for our sins?
He prays to be saved in Matthew 26 and he prayd 3 times and private so he didnt want to die and also he said God God God why hast di forsaken me?
Doesnt sound like somebody who came to die doesnt it?
And also if we read Ezekiel 18:20 God says nobdoy will die for other persons sins
So God abrogates him self?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
You said,
Many many years ago people used to sacrifice animals and, the blood shed was for their sins. Jesus is known as the Lamb of God.
I ask you if God came down to earth to sacfice Him self for our sins
To who did God sacrifce Himself if He owns the whole universe??
To sacfrice something is to loose that thing so to did God loose Himself to?
And also Jesus is called begotten son of God that means He got a begining right? And God doesnt have a begining
please explain
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Read your Bible.
Genesis, to John, to Revelation.
joemon554 3 years ago
I do but i cant find it
Im a exchristian and a exstudent of the bible
But i cant find it
And its a very important issue because is Jesus never said that and its not in the bible
that means christianity is showing cracks and soemthing that shows cracks finnaly becomes pile of rubble
Thats why i ask you
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
I'm sorry you have lost your faith.
It is my hope and prayer that you may regain it.
But, it could be that you never had it to begin with. How can you call yourself a 'Christian' if, you don't do what a Christian does?
You must have faith, not just believe.
Satan believes also but, he is not saved. How much better are you?
Romans 10:9 tells us to confess Jesus as Lord and to believe that He was raised from death.
Don't be so simple minded. Raise your thinking. Read.
joemon554 3 years ago
You said,
Romans 10:9 tells us to confess Jesus as Lord and to believe that He was raised from death
Thats paul speaking not Jesus
What i want are the words of Jesus him self not somebody who never met him
lets start with that
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Can someone pray for me or should i buy ticket to heaven...Ups i think i need to deserve my way to heaven,if any1 of you manage to travel with train or something and don't pay tell me,and i will regret to God for not letting me in heaven for free.:) lol christians.good theory,but...no logic.:(
AdnanBasic 3 years ago
only sheep need a shepard
solstiem 3 years ago
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Lawson80 3 years ago
It makes sense to me.
Well done buddy.
Ipersevered 3 years ago
Let me set you straight lnvestigatelslam.
Jesus Chirst (God manafest in the flesh) loves us so much that He came to Earth and paid for all sin. Everything you've done and will do in the future has been paid for in full. John the Baptist proclaimed this:
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Lawson80 3 years ago
This could only be done by a pure, sinless scarefice: paid for in blood. Because without shedding of blood there is is no remission of sin.
But only God is sinless, so God had to be our scarefice.
Remember when Abraham was told by God to scarefice his only son Isaac? How He took Isaac to the top of the mountain and prepared an altar. Then Isaac said to his father "Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?" Then Abraham said a VERY interesting thing!
Lawson80 3 years ago
Abraham said, "My son, God will provide himself a lamb" ... you catch that? GOD WILL PROVIDE HIMSELF A LAMB.
BUT, a Ram was provide on that day; not a Lamb. That's because the Lord Jesus Christ was to be the Lamb to be provided: and God did provide himself as the Lamb of scarefice for our sins!!
Lawson80 3 years ago
People are under this crazy notion that they will go to hell for their sins. This is rubbish, all sin has been paid for on the cross!
What you will go to hell for is rejecting Jesus Christ scarefice: God's offer to pay for your sins. See a payment for your sins (atonement) must be paid. God want's to pay it for you; but He won't force it on you, you have a free will and choice in the matter; but if you won't let him, then you'll have to pay for them yourself.
Lawson80 3 years ago
Rom 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 11:29
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Lawson80 3 years ago
Please go down 5 posts to read the start of my message to you lnvestigatelslam. YouTube isn't the best posting forum **hehe**
Lawson80 3 years ago
Thats paul talking
I want the words of Jesus him self
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Sin paid on the cross?
where does Jesus claim to die on the cross for your sin?
Thats a fuzzy feeling doesnt it? you sin somebody pays for it
you got pain and your friend takes the pil?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
God died?
And humansacrifce allowed in the OT?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
God died?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Yes. God the Son was manafest in the flesh and died to become our scarefice for sin. To satisfy the payment for the breaking of God's Law.
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Please tell me lnvestigatelslam, who else is worthy enough to pay the price of our transgressions?
Lawson80 3 years ago
Proof that Jesus was God first
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Please don't make the mistake to trying to reconcile your God with mine. The God of the Bible is not Allah, never was Allah and never will be Allah. They are polar opposite.
Lawson80 3 years ago
why cant you proof that God/Allah/Elohim/Elah/
is Jesus?
Ofcourse Allah is not like your God of the bible
Allah is the God of Abraham the Al Powerfull Ever Living.
Your God is a mixture of that with roman/greek pagan believes
Allah simply means The-God
The Jews of Madina called him Allah not God or YHWH but Allah
The Christians of Yemen who came to debate the Prophet called Him Allah
And ofcourse God of the bible is a opposite of the God in the Quran
Yours died butnaked;)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
God in the Quran is the God of Abraham (as)
The Grandfather of the Arabs
God in the Quran is didnt not begot a son or is a trintiy but ONE God
God in the Quran is Most Mercifull Most Forgiven but God in the bible loves blood and murder for sins and can not forgive them
God in the Quran is Everliving Selfsubtane
God in the bible dies crys sleeps and even regrets making humans
God in Quran offers you His Mercy
God in the bible asks for blood of others
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
God in the Quran is above the Heavens is uncreated and in no need of anything from us
God in the bible came out of a "vagina" of a 10 year old girl to be humilated killed spit on and needed fish and honeycomb to substane himself
Im a arabic exchristian and in our church we called God Allah and Jesus Isa al Messih
Like AL the arab christians/jews !
God in the bible is a mixture of paganism and judiasm
The Quran came to destroy that believe !
And bring back God to His Proper Place !!
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
You still haven't answered the SIN question mate. Who making the payment for your sins?
Lawson80 3 years ago
The answer to that is very very simple,
[002:037] Then, Adam learnt from his Lord the words (to repent with), and He accepted the repentance. Indeed, He it is Who accepts repentance, and He is the most Merciful.
My Lord Allaah forgives the mistakes of humans Thats why He called Himself Most Merciful Most Forgiven
He promises Forgivenis to any one that follows His Path and repents for his or here mistakes and doesntset up partners next to Him
No need for murder or blood !
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
He says that those that follow His Path Islam will be forgiven and loved
[003:031] Say, "If you love Allah, then follow me. Allah will love you! And He will forgive your sins. Allah is the most Forgiving, and the most Merciful!"
And Allaah never breaks His Promise to the believing man and woman
[003:009] Our Lord! Verily, it is You Who will gather mankind together on the Day about which there is no doubt. Verily, Allah never breaks His Promise".
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
He tells us to do good deeds and be good to our parents
To gain reward in the hereafter!
002:025] Give the good news to those who believe and do the righteous deeds. Theirs shall be the gardens (of paradise) through which run the rivers. There, as they taste the fruits (of paradise), they would remark, "This, we were given before, too (There, they would certainly be granted the identical (blessings). There, they shall have pure and immaculate mates. And there, they shall live forever!
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Allaah Got no Son He doesnt need blood or a murder for our sins!
He is Greater then Us he Created Us and knows our mistakes
He calls Him self the Most Mercifull and Most Forgiven!
And thats what he is
He tells us that if we turn to Him and do His Will he will forgive us for our sins and reward us for our good deeds
But if you set partners next to him
HE DOESNT KNOW YOU !!!
Thats my answer
whats your payment?
Asnwer with scripture back up please
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Exodus 30:10
And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 4:25, Leviticus 4:34, ... and many many more. All talking about sheding of blood for atonement for sin.
But this was just a covering, and not a cleansing, because God requires a pure and holy scarefice, which only Jesus Chirst could fullfil.
Lawson80 3 years ago
Jesus proclaimed this:
Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Allah is not the God of Abraham, because the God of Abraham is righteous judge, and can not let sin go unpaid for; that would be corrupt, unjust and he'd be a hypocrite.
Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not;
Allah changes his mind at a whim all through the Koran, you wouldn't know where you stand with him.
Lawson80 3 years ago
Sorry lnvestigatelslam, unless you put your complete faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and except his payment for your sin, then you'll die in them, and burn for eternity.
John 8:24 (KJV) [Jesus Christ speaking]
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Lawson80 3 years ago
And don't forget investigateislam, they say that Jesus died for ur sins, that mean tere will be no judgement day? Tere will be not judgment of God to me. Cool so i believe in the dead of Jesus.Come on!!! It a contradict religion.
hippyhippyshake07 3 years ago
Proof that Jesus was God first
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Sura 2 Verse 111
ozzieISLAM 3 years ago
Only christians who don't read the whole council of God claim these things. In fact this video is scriptural. God is mearciful. Jesus said: Whatsoever sin a man sinneth will beforgiven him. Blaspheme of the Father and of the Son shall be forgiven him, but blaspheme of the Holy spirit (to say that jesus is the devil) shall not be forgiven in this life or the next. Not exact but close enough. Jesus alos said, I call not the ritgheous to REPENTENCE but the sinners. Real christians accept scripture.
Jerimiah10 3 years ago
Thats what paul says not Jesus ;)
Read James 15 again and see that faith alone is death and you need to do deeds!
This blood stuff is from mitrashm not Jesus (as)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
the bible most definately teaches of hell
nov251968aab 3 years ago
10 out of 10 that was pure.
SlaughterAnimal 3 years ago
Christ himself gave Paul the authority(Acts 9:4-6)"Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do" That is why I follow Pauls words.
Yes, Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Mathew 5:17)which means he has come to take the punishment we deserve under the law.
Yes, Salvation is achieved by faith alone!Deeds are only an evidence that you are really saved for:"I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;" (Jews 10:16)
procuratorbg 3 years ago
Christ never ever gave him anything
ww w .judaismvschristianity. com
This jew exposes paullie
Paul contradicts the words of Jesus (as) and brought his OWN teaching
And btw dont you people claim Jesus (as) is the truth way and life ? so why does he need paul for?
Paul is a LIAR and he him self said it
and also Jesus (as) according to your books warned you about somebody who will come who will contradict his teachings and sees a light?
hmm check the website and understand ;)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
Christian salvation can not be achieved by logic, It is achieved by faith.
By the way you logic is stupid. Nowhere in the Bible is mentioned that non-beliving in, and non-accepting Christ is a sin - this is not a sin, but a right of choice of your free will.
So he has not died for you not accepting him!!! Paul says that if you don't accept Christ, you remain under the law, and will be judged according to the law.
And last, Christ himself has said: "no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
procuratorbg 3 years ago
Paul? who gave paul the autority to changes what Jesus (as) said?
Jesus says that he NEVER came to ablosh the Law and that a camel will go true a eye of a needle before the Law is invalid
So who do you believe paul the liar or Jesus "your" (not mine) God?
by faith alone? or with deeds?
Christ ment that nobody is save d but only BY his teachings same as Moses and Noah (saaw) where for there people
btw if Jesus (as) said that why do you follow pauls words and not from Jesus (as)?
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
how do we know your story is true?.........lol!
3smusch 3 years ago
lol????? whats so funny?
story?
explain please (0_o)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
You say that the devil is a liar.
Because Jesus is the son of God, the devil wants to tell the lie that He is not.
Because Jesus died on the cross the devil wants to tell that he did not.
RosannaRocco 3 years ago
Yes i say the devil is a liar same way you keep lying here :D thnx for telling us who you follow LOL!!
God got sons by the tons in the bible!
the term son is giving to righteous people
Jesus said blessed are the peace makers they will be called SONS of God
But only the devil makes you think God is 3 with a son wilst God say im ONE with out partners ;)
Only the devil will make you think somebody died for your sins because GOD DIED!
Only the devil makes you believe GOD CAN DIE!
next
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
hahahahah good one looooooooooool
MissSouljahOfAllah 3 years ago
i PWND here :D
She tought muslims are as stupid as some christians !!
unlike christians Muslims got KNOWLEDGE of there faith !!
lol
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
allahu akbar. lol
MissSouljahOfAllah 3 years ago
In sura 6,34 it is written that nobody can falsify God´s word. How can people then falsify the thora and the gospel?
RosannaRocco 3 years ago
Again the Torah is a Law wich is still in the OT and the Ghospel is the Oral Teaching of Jesus
The NT is NOT Gods words but words of unknow writters wich is taken from 24.000 manuscripts
and only 1200 manuscripts where used for the NT in 325
And about the Torah The Quran says that the scribes displace words of it in 004:046
And even the OT says it in Jeremaih 8:8 and in NT in 7:7
NT is manmade words and NOT Gods words
OT is disorted by the scribes but the Law still stands
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
And also 6:34 means that people can not falsify Gods word it speaks mainly about the Quran
GODS ONLY WORD
NOT THE MANMADE BIBLE !!!
And also 6.34 speaks also about the decrees of Allah
The Words of Him or Actions done by Him
Again you try to lie and disort and decieve ?
and you call your self afollower of God?
didnt the bible says the devil is the father of al lies!
And you keep lying ! so the question is do you follow the devil or God?
I think i know who you follow ;)
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago
And the Law is the Words of God wich are revealed to the Prophets !!!!
The words of the scribes are lies
Jeremaih 8:8 Mark 7:7 Quran 4:46
But the Law of God still stands! 6,34
If you dont get it after this comment then you are truly blind deaf and dumb :D
lnvestigatelslam 3 years ago