How do you pray on issues of homosexuality in the church?

[happypotatoes11]

HAVE AN OPINION ROWAN!!

[JoshuaHooker2011]

Jesus spoke a lot about sin, but never mentioned homosexuality. This can hardly be a coincidence.

[Christian61204]

The traditional position of most Christians does not detract from the fact that substitutionary atonement applies equally to all; salvation is avaiable to homosexuals.

[JoshuaHooker1995]

@Christian61204 Agreed.

[BillyFeynman]

Is that a yes or a no?? LOL

[FuroraCeltica]

Rowan Williams = false teacher on pretty much every social and theological issue

[nicksum29]

The homosexual question has made the Anglican church more vibrant, youthful, and attractive to a new generation. It is the ONLY large denomination that seems to be dealing with the issue at all.

[Romans1014Preach]

@nicksum29 You say vibrant, I say virulent. Many so-called Christians, especially in the Anglican / Episcopalian Church are on the fast track to Hell & that includes Gay sympathizers. This man, Rowan Williams, is NOT proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ. An openly sinful lifestyle cannot be tolerated & he is NOT coming out & condemning it. I agree with jwsyt2.

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach "gay sympathisers" "Jew sympathisers" "black sympathisers" "Jesus sympathisers" "Immigrant sympathisers" ... Funny how, after enough time has past, the nasty-minded all start to sound alike.

[Romans1014Preach]

@nicksum29 You have not made your point very well. I mentioned GAY, yet you list a whole lot of other totally unrelated "sympathisers". So you want to call Jesus also nasty-minded for condemning sin. Funny that !

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach Oh, I made it very well. In all your pride, you just can't see yourself. Your arrogance has blinded you. Fallen into a ditch yet? The time will come. Prayers to you.

[Romans1014Preach]

@nicksum29 You are not only confused but lost. When you justify Sinful Lifestyles you become reprobate. Many are apostate & you are one. You must be "born again" otherwise Satan rules you. Repent & believe the REAL Gospel.

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach I rest my case. The arrogance is astounding. Now you are actually USURPING the throne of God and His judgement. Are you not terrified?

[ghns1133]

@Romans1014Preach u r gay.

[jwsyt2]

Good work Rowan!

Now let's DISCUSS adultery, pedophilia, murder, etc . Let's hope that the radicals on both sides of the question can also come to a compromise. We also need to have understanding for those who are both for and against these issues..... don't we?

[jwsyt2]

Discuss what? This should be discussed according to who?- an "educated" man called R. Williams.

However, there is no discussion open -at all- on this issue- according to who? God/Jesus- as clearly, unequivocally stated in His Word, the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments.

The problem with R. Williams is that he has studied Christianity- is a Christian pharisee so to speak, but he has never yet encountered Jesus Christ PERSONALLY, nor been baptised in the Holy Spirit and received His power.

[EbsNhexz]

@jwsyt2 Usually I wouldn't judge a Christian man by pagan values, and I wont start now either. Its sad when one is so obsessed with the sin that he cant look behind it and see his brother.

[wycliffe35]

A very intelligent man and a good leader trying (sometimes in vain) to hold a church at war with itself together. The Anglican community will miss this sagacious and humble man when he leaves. He is, in my opinion, the best Archbishop the Anglican church has had in a long long time.

[SuperNonconformist]

Its not what the archbishop says its what the holy scriptures says,here is a man who dosen't even believe in the virgin birth.He talks about not being in this"JOB"much longer,i always thought it was a "call to serve" not a clock on clock off job.We are to please GOD not man we are to serveGOD not man.

[WOWJBEOWULF]

There is a reason why homosexual, lesbian, atheist, and abortionist are considered unadroit, or unsophisticated, or unclean; it is because they will show up with their little show, like a porn star showing his, or her, act and claim it is their value and assault anyone who says otherwise: Jokes on you, you let it in. Those bozos are why I understand the Jesus Christ prophecy, when Christ knocks you let him in; it is a Jewish joke, none gets in, you are all rotten.

[dd59688]

@WOWJBEOWULF s i can see you suffer from narcisism. the way you use the language show you are a naricissist or just a person tha wants to frighten homosexuals pretending to be intelectually superior to them . tell me something . how do you feel . weak do you see bizarre faces before you sleep that frighten you . do you sometimes feel lost ? does farting frighten you ? does travelling makes you feel like you are about to cry . you get into busses and you flee out ?

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@dd59688 Thank you for the feedback, narcissism is something to talk about; but it is not my trait; you will be surprised at people who come from good homes and treat people like they have been blessed, only to find the monster testing the waters to feed people to the sharks. The prophecy is narcissism, vanity, weakness, futility, imaginations, speculations, illusions that exchange the wisdom of God for the fool; but then I see the entire blaspheme with the title "dickhead"--we get to choose.

[lenakimosia]

@WOWJBEOWULF is this person dangerous ?

[dd59688]

@WOWJBEOWULF well my dear friend . you really seem to have suffered in you life . but homosexuals have suffered too . so dont be so cruel with them

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@dd59688 I will think about austerity, when I think about abusive people.

[dd59688]

@WOWJBEOWULF and now abideth faith , hope ,charity. these three . but the greatest of these CHARITY .

[WOWJBEOWULF]

500-characters is a short paragraph to say it. Sex itself is unvalued and unimportant, a common skill we find as adults, even the word "testicle" is the root legal-word "testator" (i.e. testimony); we exist and it is already obviously a product of our common, ordinary skill that terrifies kings of World History for being unable to testify for the kingdom and then populate it with "useless" to the nation. Relationships are valued, and we seek dignity and value; sex is a mere spurt.

[WOWJBEOWULF]

Homosexual & Lesbian is a choice of sexual lifestyles that demands perversion, removal of family values, and openly removes marriage of man & woman opening the doorway to lawless adultery (like a rosy path that says "if it feels good, then do it," at the end is sheep-boy and the joy of neighborly sheep condemning Christ for being so righteous to claim there is sin). We are being abused, what is removed is dignity and value by people who condemn Christ and righteous teachings, for sheep-boy.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF and means dickheads like you support hypicrites who attack gays but rape kids well done!

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli Tell that to the joy of neighborly sheep at sxephil. All sexual immorality is sin and evil: adultery, fornication, prostitution, pornography, homosexual, lesbian. For a world wide faith, homosexual in its original Greek translation also has no age limit, it is evil. It is not just about your perverted village, it is about all of them. We should see some social feedback of what people bring into their homes, after such complaints, as we see language abused and redefined.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF yep you haven answered my q ur a average bel;iever as usual you just trow angry comments and i dont agree with pornography and homosexuality isnt beast like its only allowed when its two consenting adults and religion has commited the most sin further more if u are a real believer in christianity you have belive this 2 1.slavery is ok 2. working on the sabeth pun ishable by death 3. touchin da skin of a dead pig makes u unclean 4.planting different crops togeva punished by death

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli Hey your opening statement "dickheads like you support hypicrites..." and then you state that I would just throw angry comments. If you have complaints of people having random, personal, raving attacks on your character; the trouble is found in the clue in your mirror. Society never goes away, and if you expect honor, you had start to honor reality.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF wel its funny how you project on people.. u use phrases and words to attack ones personality rather than answer the question or refute my statement your one of those people who use poetic words thinking your smart but your fooling your self reality is something you will never accomplish because with your stupid belief you have no imagination left!

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli I have been around for a long time, and you really choose non-Christ; but yet you come here to name us "dickheads," with other rambling hooligan values. For atheism to be non-religion, it means you have no values, and to enforce no-sin as a duty is nonsense, weird, and a religion. Take your religion somewhere else. Love the world, I am sure you will accept anything; unless Christ is on it, because you did not get pleasured; for what Christ reports is what the world does is evil.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF i fing it has added more values to my life! u live in a box get the fuck out

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli I expect you surrounded by death symbols or alien from outer-space symbols; I once saw a woman decorate her wall for her adultery deeds with frogs (an entire wall), but you actually have to understand the evil frog symbol of ancient symbols. That is what happens here in California at the clubs, automobiles, clothes, and anyplace; the problem is to accept the world as normal means you are abnormal (rejected Christ), thus we get the strange symbols (maybe frog). Do not talk to me.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF no i do not you are effected by those symbols because you blieve in them we dont believe so it doesnt effect us therefore we are more sane!

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli According to your profile you are 21-years of age, but you have a immature outlook. Where I come from we can start formal employment at age 14-years with heavy equipment in the summer when school is out, frontier laws, drive the grain truck; you are too old to go messing with people you do not like.  Do not talk to me.

[timetochilli]

@WOWJBEOWULF welldeone again the right wing nonsense attacking people but not answering qs koz u cant ur the one who is immature i havent said anything thatsimmature you know what i am saying is true so you avoid it koz u cant come out of your lil box

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@timetochilli Your opening statement, first sentence, my title "dickheads." You are immature, insane, retarded, and I am sure you are a weirdo who is freaked out that someone did not pick your values. You are also nobody; atheists have no stance, they claim no moral values; it is like prostitute crying about her personal twist being owned by her; you cannot agree with anyone, and are in a panic that your lemming demands and cult practice to follow you is rejected by an entire group of people.

[dd59688]

the bible refers more often to prostitution as well as fornication rather to homosexuality. st paul says in an epistole i dont remember which that jesus came to save the sinners and he mentions clearly homosexuals among them considering himself as the bigger one because he was against the church in the begining

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@dd59688 The entire Holy Bible discusses sexual immorality; we see broad words sometimes used such as "sexual immorality" but it is not left to the imagination as the entire content discusses the variations of the sins. You will find the self-serving sinners cherry pick their Holy Bible; and the worst ones remove everything and goes "love the world" when that is clearly not the message. The weirdoes want Christ blessings without belonging, and abuse language and definitions to ridicule Christ.

[Ulai777]

how about praying that The LORD opens your eyes when you read the Scriptures Mr Williams

[MaryWaterton]

Time to stop talking about prayer ... and do it.

Time to stop talking about repentance ... and do it.

Men like Rowan, who sit high in the hierarchy of churchianty, love money more than God. Time for lukewarm Christians in the Anglican church who still fear God to get rid of this guy. That is the bottom line.

[nbarbee36]

You think being Gay is a Sin??? I don't believe it is! God created many things in this world that may be something you dont agree with but never the less he created it. There is no 10 commandments that says THOU SHALT NOT BE GAY but there is not to kill, steal, comment adultry and nobody ever says anything about those sins. They brush it off as if it were o.k. Did u choses to be straight? I think not just like we did not choses to be GAY. Your sexuality is not a choice it's who God made u to be.

[Blongers1]

Christianity is incompatable with homosexuality.

Just be gay and dont worry about all this jesus horseshit.

[mastersduhgree]

Hopmosexuality is incompatible with life...pretty simplistic theology.

[mastersduhgree]

Its not a question of compatability.Its a question of rightiousness.

[megatown]

I correct: ...a honest gay...

[megatown]

A honest guy is the better person than an unhonest hetero.

Who ever opposes this factum is a evil demagogue, and has no moral right to speak in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, but belongs to the anti-moral liar pak of our lords AVVERSARY !!!

[megatown]

What is that what a bishop ???

He promotes the introduction of barbaric sharia law in UK, today for a few tomorrow for all.

So he dares to speak in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and want to sell him to the wolves ??????????

Who is that man ?

Who has given him the permission to sell Jesus Christ to the adversary ????

WHO ??

[xpo50]

I love htis guy, the only reason he isnt campaigning for gay rights in the church is because he has such an important p;osition and would be heavily criticised

[nbarbee36]

If gay people are keeping all of the 10 commandments and stra8 people are Not whos sins are more wrong??People need to clean out their own closets before they judge another!!

[xpo50]

the Bible does not criticise homosexuality.

it criticises heterosexuals who deviate from their real sexuality. In essence people who deny who they really are

[mastersduhgree]

Theres no profit in critisizing homosexuality,theres only pointing out its existance and its unrightiousness.

[mastersduhgree]

Its not keeping of the ten commandment that makes you rightious. Its the admission of sin to God.But...you cant continue in sin you have to turn from it eventually to be rightious.Will a gay ever confess that  they are sinning and cease?

[nbarbee36]

I am gay and I am a Christian. Iwas raised in the church and feel that many people choose to pick which versus they like best. I think of the 10 commandments and being gay was not one of them. Many straight people have broken some if not all of the 10 commandents; but yet they refuse to check their own sins at the door. My question to you is gay people doing more wrong than stra8 people?

[mckinneygriffin]

This is what happens without a pope.

[cyklonb1989]

wtf? the bible CLEARLY says death to homosexuals. If you think the bible is the words of god shouldnt you do what it says? you don't impose replace it with your bloody ethics! If you do you are implying you are wiser/better than GOd. Oh dear! Blasphemy

[tool2scream05]

well in that case, death to liars! Logic doesn't work so well now does it? So the Archbishop is correct, we've made a BIGGER issue out of something that is no bigger an issue than any other issue. No bigger a sin than any other sin.

[merlynskydragonheart]

very true!

[mastersduhgree]

Fornication weather homosexual or hetero sexual it like no other as the fornicater is sinning against his own body.Homosexuality is also demonic possession and most other sin is just demonic influence outside the body.

[pianopat]

idiot

[calarch78]

Persons "in sin" would include every Christian from Peter and Paul on down to you and me, snotbog1... unless of course you think homosexuality is a special kind of sin.

[ashie123]

no, its not a special sin. it's a sin.

[ghns1133]

@ashie123 u r gay

[Romans1014Preach]

@ghns1133 If I was Gay then I would be on my way to Hell, however I am not Gay.

[ghns1133]

@Romans1014Preach u r gay and u cant admit to it. jesus had sex with men also.

[Romans1014Preach]

@ghns1133 Satan has a FIRM hold on you. Hell awaits those like you.

[ghns1133]

@Romans1014Preach

u seriously think i am going to hell? ur joking right?

[Romans1014Preach]

@ghns1133 I do not joke like you do.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The big majority of mankind FOLLOW Satan. You are 1 of them.

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach I can also cut and paste from the Bible to support my nasty little views, but I think it blasphemous to do so.

[Romans1014Preach]

@nicksum29 It's not a matter of C & P. It is a matter of Truth. The Bible is a recording of that for mankind. As for nasty, well that is your view but not mine. The majority of mankind are on the fast track to Hell. I will warn people as the LORD Jesus tells me. You choose ! We either choose Satan & Hell OR Jeus Christ & Heaven.

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach As I said, "nasty little views".

[Romans1014Preach]

@nicksum29 Yes it will be nasty when you end up in Hell, that I can guarantee. All nastiness comes from Satan. It is called SIN/REBELLION !

Satan controls the masses with his nasty deception.

[nicksum29]

@Romans1014Preach I rest my case....

[snotbog1]

A person in sin is not in good faith.

[SpeedyBruin]

I wish more christians took this kind of level headed approach. I support gay rights, but it's much easier to sit down with someone who doesn't when they are as compassionate as he seems to be.

[newplace2]

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