Town Hall Erupts On Congressman Steve Kagen

[millec60]

Kagan is gone, thankfully. He is a douchebag; he fucking wore a stethoscope to debates and had his symbol as a stethoscope a few years ago.

[hockeydadtoo]

Rich Republicans LOVE duping gullible people. If you can't see it, that unfortunately becomes a problem for us all.

[ryan4230]

i have lived in both health care systems, a private and public. My private system cost me @$350 per month and was garbage!! MY public system costs me @$57 per month, and it rocks!!!! Yes I now live in Canada:) America deserves better health care, sadly the only thing that will get better is the profits of the ins. co..

[carolynmerkle1964]

People are afraid of this health care law, it takes control of our lives and money. I have read the views and my experience in health claim insurance, years of being without health insurance and now on Medicare & Medcaid this law gives to much power to the government. It cost to much money for what we get.

[soslinio]

The crowd knows more than the politicians.

Fringe group of radicals... LOL whatever.

[msm318]

wow...this makes me laugh.....you folks on the left are scared as hell....and you should be. You can insult all you want, but the majority of Americans do not want a bigger government. Even democrats are coming over to our side and understand the ramifications of this. Continue to insult as you always do when you are not armed with the facts - that is fine. It is pretty clear where the country stands on this.

[jensen1901]

grassroots my ass. Sure a lot of these people are real and "angry" or whatever but you can bet this whole angry town hall storyline was put together by top PR firms tied to the Republican party and insurance industry. Many of the yellers were plants. And the media, chasing Fox, fell for it. The Tea Party bus tour is funded by Our Country Deserves Better, a GOP political action committee (PAC) formed to oppose Barack Obama. This is all about politic and taking down Obama/denying him 24/7.

[lisachimi]

Hundreds of people are telling THEM NO Health care! Hurray go intelligent humans!!! Do you really want it? Lets see Monsanto has a deal with the AMA to make toxic GMO's causing MORE people to NEED health care, then Big Pharma comes along to give you medicine and they ALSO have a deal with Monsanto. To make foods WITH medicine IN IT. So you will all get Diabetes type 2! Then along comes the government who has DEALS WITH ALL OF THEM and they offer you health care. Good luck idiots.

[wisdaniel]

Obama is a master of strategy. He understands the momentum game and the importance of timing. He let the Republican's play their card, and now he is playing his hand. We saw it in the campaign, and we are seeing it again. The guy stays cool and level headed, making the other side look every bit as ugly, radical, over heated, inappropriately angry, and ill informed as they are. The tide is turning once again. The media is on to the lobbyist funded foray, and Obama is at his game. Stay tuned.

[bushbarnes]

You wish!

[urgener]

As a famous Democrat front runner once said: I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow youre not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!

[Animasid]

Please republicans, keep choosing crazy over rational. You need to shout more and all at the same time so that you can't be heard. And none of your real rational views come through. The crazies are taking over a party which once had fiscal politics down to a dot. These are the people that make it hard for republicans with rational minds to admit they are republican. This is a party in self-destruct mode.

[bigkeys72]

Get it through your thick skull. The people protesting Obamacare are not Republicans! Republicans are not behind these protests. This is not about political parties anymore.

[wisdaniel]

When conservatives lose at the ballot box, and in the court of public opinion, they resort to the only thing they have left, which is to shout and yell. It is the last dying gasp of a dying political machine. Young voters reject them. The generational gap and growing minority demographics will further marginalize them in future elections. Obama must fail because it is their ONLY avenue to relevancy. Obama will not fail, and we will hear more shrill voices as their flame glows dimmer. Go USA!!!

[sandwichpork]

Obama is a puppet and he and his immoral puppet masters will fail. He is a one term ventriloquist dummy who is a liar and a theif. He is a brown shirt instructing his minions to turn in their neighbors emails and websites. The left will collaps of it's own immorality. Who is John Gault? We are everywhere and that terrifies you. Dumbdanial

[wisdaniel]

I disagree with everything you said. But most of it is bat shit crazy so I won't even go there. I will say this about his re-electability: Hillary Clinton and her DNC underestimated him. John McCain and the Republican's underestimated him. I doubt he will be underestimated again. I also doubt he can be beat, unless something unforeseen changes the landscape. Now in your world there's all kinds of badness on the horizon, so I don't expect you to believe that. Time will tell my friend.

[sandwichpork]

He will be beat like the little bitch he is. I will bookmark this just so I can laugh at this post in 3 1/2 years.

[bigkeys72]

Wisdaniel, last comment - Obama won because he ran as a pragmatic reformer and many of the independent voters bought that line. If conservatism is a loser, why did Democrats run as conservatives in 2006 to take back Congress? I've never seen Democrats run as the communists they are until they get in office. More and more people are waking up to Obama's Marxist agenda. So go ahead and cheerlead for him, but he doesn't give a damn about you or other useful koolaid drinking idiots.

[Animasid]

Yea, they're not republicans.. give me a break. Go watch more Glenn Beck

[playerags1]

Sooooo Animasid, republicans aren't americans anymore? I didn't hear you whining when ACORN was protesting. And using my tax dollars to do it.

[Animasid]

If you honestly can take what I said, and warp it so much that is what you got out of it, then I don't even need to respond. Once again, please stick to your looney talking points and watch as more and more people leave your party.

[controlpopulation]

Fringe groups? Hmmm. Is that what 75% of Americans are now? I'd rather be fringe than stupid.

[sandwichpork]

Health care is not a right guaranteed by the constitution. If you want producers to work for takers who produce nothing for this nation then use the amendment process and "create" the right to health care. I am so sick of deadbeats stealing from the producers. I thought most liberals believe in the "science" Darwinism. Let the stupid parasite losers starve and then the fittest will enjoy a much better and prosperous world.

[lisachimi]

BS! NO ONE IS USING TACTICS EXCEPT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THEIR NASTY HEALTH CARE PLAN. YEAH YOU HAVE THE OCCASSIONAL PERSON WHO WANTS IT, BUT THE MAJORITY IS US WHO DON'T WANT IT!!!!!!!! Time to boot out all that are in office Kagen, Kohl, Feingold Doyle all of them!!!!!

[PotVsKtl]

Liar.

[lisachimi]

Who you? Yes I agree you are.

[sketchyfolk]

gee--- those old grey haired people really look like "fringe radicals"..to me they just looked like americans ...

[Gwyka]

And I'm sure none of them rely on some evil government program like MEDICARE.

[fessy78]

@wisdaniel...if you think that the economy is getting better because the stock market is up and unemployment is just trailing behind then you are the dolt following the herd. If we continue the printing of money and don't pull it all back right away with high interest rates then we are going to see inflation skyrocket. It was both the R and the D that did this. The fed keeps turning out money with fractional banking, not backed by any commodity and we expect to have sound money? Look at Weimar.

[wisdaniel]

There were no good choices available when Obama took office. All economist will tell you that. Obama went the stimulus route.

I will support narrowing the deficit, and that will mean budget cuts as well as tax increases. I hope you support reducing our national debt as well, and mean it. All taxes are not evil, just as all government spending is not all good. Let's hope adults on both sides can get the hard work done.

[bigkeys72]

This corrupt administration is not "narrowing the deficit." There are no budget cuts! This year's budget deficit alone is over $1 trillion dollars. GET YOUR F HEAD OUT OF YOUR @SS

[PotVsKtl]

Uninformed.

[wisdaniel]

Lots of lies about what the polls show, but:

Quinnipiac: 62 percent support "public option."...

Washington Post/ABC News: 54 percent support a "government-run plan." ...

Time: 56 percent favor a "government-sponsored" option....

NY Times/CBS News: 66 percent favor a "government administered" plan....

McClatchy: 52 percent say "it is necessary to create a public health insurance plan." ...

NBC News/Wall Street Journal: 46 percent favor a plan "administered by the federal government." ...

[f12key]

As far as the fat fuck at the end of the video who claims people who want to understand the bill are denied that opportunity; well fat fuck go read the bill online... because your congressman hasn't read it and he can't tell you shit about it anyway.

[f12key]

I think this and other situations like this going on all over the country show this administration to be the socialist jerks they are. This certainly isn't a representative government anymore and this is not a representative country anymore. This isn't a democratic republic anymore. Welcome to 1984; soon the Obama goons will round you up for "Reprogramming/reconditioning"

[f12key]

All this shows is that local media is useless at getting a story right, that the Democratic party is ignoring the people, including their own democrats who might happen to be against something, and that people are frustrated and fed up of not being represented. Yeah, lets blame this on a organized radical group of 20 people who migrate around the country who are seeking negative attention for themselves...blah blah blah.... what a load of bullshit.

[jabberwolf]

Wait.

Gallup poll shows that MAJORITY are not happy with Obama and Heath care plan.

And that was in July 21st.

Now even MORE people are unhappy with it...

So how the hell is the majority being accused as being an organized group?!?!

[wisdaniel]

Polls do not show that. Add in support and some what support and the number is positive. Besides, you guys use to accuse Clinton of governing by poll: sticking his finger to the wind. Can't keep you guys straight on your criticisms. Economy: Bush and the Repubs F'ed this country. I can't prove where we would be without the government stepping in with stimulus, but most economist say we'd be fucked. That doesn't seem to matter to too many Republicans though.

[jabberwolf]

Actually polls DO show that.

Thats why I mentioned the GALLUP poll from July 21st.

And DEMOCRATS stopped bills in committees in Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs from regulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from adhering to the same rules banks were. DEMOCRATS argued anyone trying to rebuke F&F in 2004,2005,2006 and finally reviewed them in 2007 only after scandal

They were allowed to hold liquidity under 4% and housing market dropped, this is what led to crisis (liquidity crisis!)

oops FACTS!

[bigkeys72]

Wisdaniel - I agree with you that Bush and the GOP screwed this country up, which is why they lost 2 consecutive elections. But does that give Obama & the Dems an excuse to F it up more? That's basically what the Left is saying. The stimulus didn't work, cap and trade will raise our electric costs, and Obamacare will have bureaucrats in charge of your healthcare. Is this the change you wanted?

[wisdaniel]

The stimulus didn't work?  How can you prove that? No one knows where this economy would be with an certainty if there were no stimulus, no bail out of banks or other financial and insurance firms, but the majority of economist say that it would have been a disaster. You should remember what got us here. And you should make note of the slow improvements in business, lending, economic leading indicators, the stock market. Results speak, not emty rhetoric.

[bigkeys72]

Are you high or drunk? There is NO improvement in the job numbers or in consumer spending. The stimulus funds went to leftist groups and big corporations, not back to the people. Quit being a tool

[wisdaniel]

I'm not high or drunk, but you are stupid and lazy. If you really had an interest in Economics, you'd know the difference between leading economic indicators, concurrent economic indicators, and trailing economic indicators. Economist's and inquisitive individuals know this. Dolts like you follow the hurd because you are too lazy to learn anything.

[bigkeys72]

All of the leading economic indicators point to massive federal deficits, unemployment over 15% in many large cities, and more jobs closing or going overseas. The stimulus funds were payback to the leftist groups and orgs that voted for Obama. Stupid and lazy? I work 2 jobs, I am financially secure and I have never taken any govenrment handouts or subsidies. I don't want Obamacare, and millions will agree with me. Like I said, you are a tool and a useful idiot, irrelevant to the current regime

[wisdaniel]

YOu just proved again that you are both stupid and lazy. Unemployment is a trailing indicator, not a leading indicator. I hope all your hard earned money is sitting in a piggy bank on your closet shelf, you dumb sheep.

[christinapebbles]

Nice to see that the hate-filled left is seeing the majority of American push back hard with the truth. The racist (against the White People ) Obama administration idiots and their minions are a SCAM on ALL Americans. The arrogance has come back to bite these socialist liberal pigs - FINALLY. *****Keep up the good work, Americans, we ALL need to stop this health care reform scam once and for all! How many of you plan of going to the next town hall meeting? (=

[510to415]

American jobs are outsourced to other countries. Americans are losing Insurance and Reasonable options. Were not Europe WE can do better. If Americans worked together Left and Right we could acutally DO something. Instead people are fighting like children because they can't stand someone with (D) infront of their name putting out an option. Just like we wouldn't abandon someone held hostage in another country.We shouldnt let any American go without reasonable health options. We are all American

[wisdaniel]

Time for the adults in the Republican party to stand up and put these clowns down. Oh wait, there are no adults in the Republican party.

Remember the saying from the Bush years: "elections have consequences". How quickly the times have changed over just 2 elections. Fuck it up bad enough, and that "permanent Republican majority" fades quickly, doesn't it boys? LMAO!

[bigkeys72]

Wisdaniel - Republicans aren't responsible for these town halls. I'm not a Republican, I'm glad McCain lost because now Obama's agenda is exposed for all to see.

[wisdaniel]

Bigkeys, it is tea bagger Republican's screaming and acting out. Dems favor health care reform. Republican's are summarily against it. And I"m glad you are happy Obama won. So am I.

[jabberwolf]

Why are you happy? Gallop poll shows that MAJORITY are not happy with Obama's healthcare plan.

And what are YOU so happy with, promise to raise taxes, increased fees for corporations, garanteeing less jobs.

That and giving away Billions for cars rather than bail out "LOANS" with interest we get back. 4 times the deficit that Bush left.

More troops now than when Bush left office,

Grants to his buddies rather than tax breaks for ALL American businesses.

How the hell are you happy with Obama?

[sandwichpork]

I love how the Libtards think that dissent is suddenly rude and unfair. This is merely ACORN tactics turned against the left. Imagine a world of responsibility and self reliance where the only liberals left are behind glass in a zoo. It is time for the next Jeffersonian revolution and we are ready. Not to mention we own all the guns and know how to use them. I dream of a day when the liberal socialists are bleeding in the streets.

[throwback2now]

sandwichpork just went off...the...rails...

The best part...probably proud of that post! No reflection after the fact. Just, "YEAH! I told them!!"

You're exactly what's wrong with this country.

[sandwichpork]

I am proud of it and there is no need for reflection. I am right and that pisses you off. No need to reflect on the fact that you are a cocksucking liberal either.

[throwback2now]

WAIT A MINUTE! Glenn...IS THAT YOU!?

Keep up the good work, sandwichpork! You're making the liberal case better than any of us Libtards can!

More posts, please!!

[timetofly5]

So let me get this straight if you agree with our government and the plans they have your a good guy and if you don't your hostile rude and don't want to talk about it just plain offal people is that

right?

is it not  time to vote all incumbents out?

[throwback2now]

Nobody's saying that if you don't agree with the government you're hostile and rude. We're saying that if you're hostile and rude you're hostile and rude. Moreover, the strategy is clearly "We can't win an actual debate on this, so let's do everything in our power to stop the debate from happening. And just for good measure, let's throw in a little 'They want to euthanize seniors' for good measure!"

If you're so right, why the lies? Why the reliance on fear?

You're being played.

[sandwichpork]

There is no need for debate. The debate has been had in Europe and elsewhere. Everywhere the government gets involved in heath care the system breaks down and rationing becomes the only way to control costs. Obummer himself said that a pacemaker for a 100 year old woman is not ok even if she has spirit and a good life. He recommends a pain pill. Self reliance and responsibility will rule the day in the end. "I am a libtard and reality is a challenge for me. please take care of me mr politician"

[wisdaniel]

Yes we can. Yes we can. Yes we can. And we will. We the people. In a democracy, majority rules, and elections have consequences. Go Kagen. Go BO!

LMAO at teabaggers and birthers, haha.

[RideMX817]

kinda like acorn and thug panthers standing outside of voting polls??????

[jotunheim9]

This crowd was a disgrace and embarrassment to Wisconsin. Of course, different points of view and concerns should be voiced, but these unrestrained outbursts with no legitimate dialogue looked very staged to me.

Note to right wingers: you are looking more like a fringe group with these stunts and a honestly a bunch of neanderthals.

[bartley440]

Kettle calling the pot black...again!

[thesoothsayers]

They can't run the VA, how can we trust them to run anything health care related?

[BlueSkyHunter]

Do you know anyone in the VA? Doubt it. They saved my father's life.

[thesoothsayers]

Yes, my father who was in the Navy, my uncle who was in the Army, my brother who now has cancer and was in Vietnam. Plus, many people who I have handled med malpractice cases for.

[sbmke]

The "fringe radical" interviewed by WBAY is a rabbi from Green Bay.

So, putting on my leftwinger hat... "It's not just the vast right wing conspiracy, it's the zionists and the NEOCONS!!!"

/moonbattery.

[churchhillgirl]

I WISH I could have been there and I am no activist. Just a pi**ed off granny!

this health care bill is being rammed down our throats whether or not we want it.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

[BlueSkyHunter]

Most Americans want healthcare reform. Turn off FOX news, granny.

[blkconservativ]

yes people want legitimate healthcare reform but people don't want obama & the liberals phony healthcare reform. so stop drinking the kool-aid and question what your government is doing. have you read any of the pages of the bill or do you just watch CNN and let wolf blitzer tell you the world is rosy and sunny? i've read about 65 pages of the bill and i didn't like what i saw. you'd best do the same.

[BlueSkyHunter]

Sorry, pal, I don't watch CNN and I'm not the one drinking "GOP Talking Point" flavored Kool-Aid. And yeah, people DO want liberal healthcare reform. Ask anyone who has watched a family fall apart and have to sell off their assets due to our for-profit insurance companies running the show. It's happened to me. The only thing you read was a mass email from another right wing brown shirt telling you what to say... Good Robot, good.

[blkconservativ]

you're so full of shit you must sit in a toilet. the people aren't buying the liberal bullshit and the polls reflect it. why is that you liberals always know someone with a healthcare sob story? now it's blame the insurance company for someone not having healthcare? lol, next thing you libs will be blaming the insurance companies for is 9/11. sorry, but i don't drink "GOP talking points." i took a little time and read some pages of the bill, you should to so you can wake up, zombie.

[throwback2now]

Dear blkconservativ,

Who SHOULD be blamed when someone pays their premiums faithfully year after year only to have their claim not covered or their policy dropped? Who SHOULD be blamed when that person attempts to get another plan but can't because of "pre-existing conditions"?

NOT the insurance companies?

[iceman1960]

We don't want more goverment tinkering by idiots that couldn't run a lemonaide stand!

[BlueSkyHunter]

I suppose you're also against fire & police or that socialized military of ours. Personally I don't want idiots that can't spell "government" giving advice.

[iceman1960]

ever heard of a typo idjit

[dudeman5790]

oh yes mr. sieber, it couldn't be that people don't actually want the "reform", who would dare question mr. O-leader? Change right?