90% Vacant Strip Malls in Pinellas Park

[patsaxon]

Be sure when starting off your video, start off by pointing the audio mic towards a large struck and make sure it is so loud! This is not a mall of any kind, it is a small shopping center!

[Tomsouthrock]

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[hayashiyaya]

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[wilatemodel]

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[bigbillybob55]

Hey went to that 1 computer store to sell my broken laptop once lol weird

[johnu78]

@bigbillybob55

I'm sure they appreciated the business! :o)

[reggiet123]

The 2 plazza is lik brand new so that why there's no one in there.

[reggiet123]

Hey that secound

[sabblesreign]

Befor the Chinese Restraurant it use to be a Golden Corral.

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[johnu78]

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[marky2112]

@RealFreeMoneyOnline Only God can help us now.

[Gulfporter]

Part of it is hard times, the other part is modern times. A lot of these places where headed for the drain before the shit hit the fan on Wall Street because they couldn't or wouldn't compete with the internet merchants. Others, of course, we killed by Walmart. Ten years ago there were two small Walmart stores in the area. Now there are two supercenters, the Tyrone store, and a WM grocery as well as two new Targets.

[ccbc0110]

yup 2:14  was raibow mart got old bussines unnamed ill try to rember

[johnu78]

Are you from Pinellas Park originally?

[ccbc0110]

yep

[johnu78]

That's cool.

I was just talking to my local mailman and he told me that of the 800 homes in our subdivision that 160 of them are vacant.

On top of that he told me that of the 800 homes at least 1 person in 300 of those homes is receiving unemployment payments.

[ccbc0110]

wow yore mail man sounds like quite the littel senus worker just messing around

[ccbc0110]

i live in st pp and tired of the crowed ruckus cant wait to move up to tarpon springs to be with rest of greek commuity

[jemjean]

@ccbc0110 I've lived here all my life and the council keeps saying how great everything is and how it's improved since I was born in 1958. I can't tell because with all the traffic and the encroachment of retail hell into the neighborhoods, I don't go out to see it. I do know that crime wasn't an issue back then. My family used to leave their doors unlocked. Today, I wouldnt' dream of it. Pinellas Park was sleepy and peacful once.

[DeathNeedsTime]

Wow. How do these empty buildings hold up without AC? I would think down in Florida the mold and mildew would aggressively attack the sheetrock and wood.

[johnu78]

I don't think they're standing up too well.

[OAKTOWN61]

I guess the stimulus money hasn't reached you guys yet.

[DuncanDonuts3]

I saw a strip mall in ft lauderdale offering 4 months free rent to any business moving in.

Many storage facilities near me are offering 1 YEAR free rent.

Times are hard.

[johnu78]

They're doing all kinds of crazy promotions to get tenants, the whole system along with commercial real estate market are collapsing.

Be sure to read my article on wild edibles in this video's details section.

Take care,

John

[rickster348]

Was crime a factor in any of this, or,...?

[johnu78]

To be honest I don't know.

Thanks for watching.

-John

[johnu78]

Be sure to watch my video "St. Petersburg's Self-destructing Economy".

[Saborsaoco]

Good job John, Kissimmee, St. Cloud just as bad!

[johnu78]

Thank you. Hang tough and take care.

-John

[aspenmogul]

The US needs to halt foreign trade asap! Manufacture everything we use and eat within our borders. If we don't, this thing is over!

[johnu78]

I agree with you. Hopefully they will soon!

Thanks for watching.

Take care,

John

[eris670]

I hear Home Depot is doing major cutbacks, I hope for the sake of the friends that I have in retail / home improvement, that someone decides that enough is enough.

[johnu78]

Home Depot and Lowes both have been laying a lot of people off from their stores. This has been going on for over the last two years and both chains have been able to keep the majority of these layoffs out of the news.

How do I know this?

[johnu78]

Nearly every time I shop at the stores I talk to the employees and I ask them, and they're always more than willing to share this news because they all know that they could lose their job any day.

As painful as it will be a big retail crash needs to happen and these chains all need to go down. This will allow locally owned retail businesses to be created.

[Spartan69139]

wow. I don't know about your views, but I live in NYC (Queens) and have been dying to move out into a more conservative/less blue area once I graduate highschool. It's a real eye opener for me to see just how awful the economy is outside of the big cities (which is only not as bad).

[johnu78]

I would focus on getting out real soon!

-John

[rhnegquest]

Thanx for the vid, had to do a quick wiki on Pinellas County, roughly population,924 000 -2006, making it the most densely populated county in Florida, and larger in population than Wyoming,Montana,Delaware, South Dakota,Alaska,North Dakota,Vermont,District of Columbia. Median family income almost 47 000. How could the economy in Pinellas have collapsed so severely with such a population base?One would have expected some decline,with the current slowdown,but completely empty strip malls?

[johnu78]

Pinellas is a very densely populated county. It has very few large tracts of vacant land. The whole county is like a concrete jungle there, seriously.

Thanks for watching!

Take care,

John

[hilololomoa]

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[skyding8962]

900,000 is considered dense? WTF? Our county in california has 600,000 and there is hardly anyone in it. We are considred rural.

[johnu78]

It's a small county, I think it's somewhere around 600 square miles.

[johnu78]

Be sure to read my article "The World of Wild Edibles" linked in the details section of this video.

Take care,

John

[bohemianh]

I read that article the other day, you cite a lot of great resources for gardening and wild plants in it. I sent the story to several of my friends.

[evoval]

Did anyone in there right mind think that we could maintain are economy and lifestyle with fair trade competing with communist slavery and third world country's without being dragged down to that level?

Anyone in power that says there was no way we could of seen this coming is a bold face liar. The strongest nation in the history of man has been squandered for a greedy few.

It's far better not of had anything than to of had everything and lose it all. This is going to get real ugly.

[johnu78]

I agree with you. All we can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Take care,

John

[hilololomoa]

owners of two massive apartment complexes in NY that sold for a record $5.4 billion a few years ago said Monday they're turning them over to their creditors

[johnu78]

I think I heard about that on the evening news a few days ago.

Thanks for watching!

Take care,

John

[BITARTEN2]

Even the cockroaches are leving their business

[johnu78]

That seems to be the case.

Take care,

John

[godseyeview]

good riddance . we don't need more strip malls and gay huge cookie cutter homes. Not the usual custom home design industry. It's actually booming More people building their own homes than ever. Because the big developers ran off, died off, and pretty much left the market wide open. Tons of land available or going to be available

Big acres of land they bought being sold off in pieces For cheap

Yes Less sub-standard homes

[papaboule]

How ironic. That strip mall is just a few blocks from the hospice where they pulled the plug on Terri Schiavo.

[johnu78]

Actually I remember that, was she in Largo or Pinellas Park?

[chucalux99]

VERY GOOD VIDIO, I live in wash state, and things like this are happening also but, on a smaller scale, but every day I see , businesses closing and vacants staying vacant. what is Peraculture? thanks -Chuck

[trad444]

Is the computer store even open? I don't see any employee's cars

[johnu78]

It is, I was there on a Sunday.

Thanks for watching!

Take care,

John

[cazyblood3]

great video 5 stars keep up the great work

[johnu78]

Thank you very much. Please forward it to your contacts.

Take care,

John

[slinkycat321]

The landlord can always try lowering the rent, although if they are still paying a mortgage on it they may still not keep up with payments. The owners need to sit down with a financial advisor and calculate their costs against lowering rent as opposed to letting the property go into foreclosure.

[johnu78]

The problem with most commercial properties now is that the vacancy ratio is too high, which makes the properties lose money. And the owners can only support a losing property for so long before they have to give it back to the bank.

Take care,

John

[Hendo1974]

This is just the tip of the iceberg, the Financial Titanic has already hit the iceberg, it's a DEPRESSION NOT A RECESSION, BANKSTERS AND THE PROSTITUTE POLITICIANS SOLD EVERYONE DOWN THE NWO WATERFALL!

[johnu78]

Better read up on wild edibles!

Take care,

John

[judutchinski]

Not a bad read in any economy. Even if for fun. Ya never know, you could have fun camping and eating on the go.

But unfortunately I know good people that have fallen here in LA. They're leaving one by one. And if their folks go under, so will they at this point. Seems the old folks that have saved are bailing out their 30-40 kids. Just crazy!!!

People are barely holding on out there. It's really coming to this for some. Want a salad? Just go to the roadside cafe! For all you organic zealots!

[johnu78]

Thanks for watching.

Take care,

John

[CAVEMAN93able]

We're so screwed. I counted "For lease" and "space available" signs all afternoon in Cary, NC. We're screwed.

[slinkycat321]

@CAVEMAN93able I am in Morrisville, yeah I am seeing a lot of vacant places in Cary and this is a paradise relatively. I am looking for a house to rent and the rents have dropped considerably. But this may be because it is winter time, not a lot of people move or rent during the winter.

[bohemianh]

usa is falling apart, people thought Bush was incopetent? obamo is not doing anything, not ending the two expensive wars, closing military bases, cutting taxes, reducing taxes on working class? We are watching the fleecing of America. Goldman Sachs, B Of A, Wall St. pigs at the circus!

[johnu78]

The Obama administration and the Federal Reserve are doing everything in their power to suck all the money out of the economy. That's how they're going to bankrupt the majority of Americans.

[prescottbill]

Keep up the great work.

Gerald Celente calls them "Ghost Malls". We will see many more as things get worse.

[johnu78]

Thank you for your comment. Please forward this video to your contacts.

Thanks again,

John

[johnu78]

The best advice I can give you is to read my article on wild edibles which is in the details section of this video.

Take care,

John

[hilololomoa]

WalMart Stores Inc. will cut about 11,200 jobs at Sam's Club warehouses.

[johnu78]

I just saw that, things are getting scary!

[hilololomoa]

SCARY!The End Is Just the Beginning

[johnu78]

I wish you were wrong, but I believe you're right.

[linnx88]

Another great documentary. Thanks John. By the way, do you know when plazas in FL started getting empty like that? Was it half a year ago or almost a year now?

[johnu78]

Thank you for your comment.

I think it started getting like this in January last year.

I use to work in real estate and have been following the collapse very for over three years now. So I've been paying attention to the Tampa Bay market.

[linnx88]

@johnu78 Yeah that's tough, my sister did that. She had to switch occupation.

[ozlo]

linnx8, I would say it was over a year ago. It wasn't nearly as bad as it is now, but Florida began taking a hit much sooner than most other parts of the country.

[pgm98387]

People shop online more now than they used to. Its more convenient to shop online and have goods delivered to your home.

Shoppers use the internet. Places like these could be set up for social event places like churches.

[johnu78]

That's a good idea too.

At some point they may turn some of the plazas into condos or apartments.

[pgm98387]

In So Cal they will bulldoze the buildings down and leave vacant land because the taxes get to high.

[johnu78]

I could see that start to happen in this area.

[johnu78]

A few years ago I came very close to buying a small strip mall, it was about 14,000 square feet. I'm counting my blessings that the deal didn't go forward because that plaza is now over 70% vacant.

[skyding8962]

Hey John I happened to look at the top 300 metro areas for unemployment rate and like where Im at in California the palm in florida (or whatever its called can't remember the exact title) metro area was at the bottom of the list with around 16 something percent back in november. Which is strange since I don't think your area is that much agriculture but where Im at its very agricultural so high unemployment has happened before in the early 90's the county was around 20 percent.

[johnu78]

Thank you for posting that.

Pinellas Park is located next to St. Petersburg both cities are inside Pinellas county.

The Tampa Bay area has been hit hard with unemployment, especially over the last 12 months.

Take care,

John

[skyding8962]

I just found it.

Palm Coast, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 16.8 percent back in November 2009.

Is this area considered the palm coast metro area?

[skyding8962]

OK I looked it up, Palm coast isn't anywhere near this area. Its on the other side of florida on the atlantic coast. That seems to be the highest unemployment in florida.

So thats pretty crazy that in your area your having all those vacancies yet your area isn't even hit as hard as some other parts of florida.

[johnu78]

Things are going to get a lot worse here.

[judutchinski]

I don't doubt it. My brother got out of there at just the right time and sold his house. Had he not...

[johnu78]

When did he move from the area?

[judutchinski]

@johnu78 -- Sold his house 2 years ago. I forget how quick he sold it but remember it being unusually lucky. Within a matter of only 3-4 months.

[johnu78]

He's lucky he got it sold. I sold some acreage back in April '07. I was marketing the hell out of the property but I succeeded in getting it sold.

Take care,

John

[johnu78]

Palm Coast is on the Atlantic Oceans side of the state by St. Augustine and Daytona Beach. Pinellas county is on the Gulf of Mexico side of the state.

[johnu78]

The "alleged" unemployment rate in Tampa Bay is around 13%.

[skyding8962]

Is the commercial real estate situation even worse in Tampa Bay or Palm coast or is it about the same?

[johnu78]

I can't speak for the Palm Coast area because I haven't been over there since March '08. All I can say is that the commercial real estate situation is really bad in the Tampa area.

A lot of plazas in my area have been taken back by banks. I highlighted one local plaza which was foreclosed on in my Port Richey Dying on the Vine video. The Target store that I talked about in the beginning of that video is in the foreclosed plaza, Target is closing its store there the 31st of this month.

-John

[sherpahigh81]

It's definitely a bad sign when you have restaurants which offer relatively cheap food go out of business. Thanks for the video.

[johnu78]

You're very welcome. Thank you for watching.

-John

[judutchinski]

Fore...Fore...Foreclose your boat, gently down the stream!

If you see a crocodile, don't forget to scream!!

[CodeGreenCommunity]

We speak alot about permaculture at our meetings google Code Green Community and look at creating a community near you of people working together in increase their resilience.

[johnu78]

Hopefully we'll see Code Green Communities popping up all over the country.

Thanks for watching and take care.

Sincerely,

John

[KamikazeKoscki]

Jobs have been out sourced, Haiti they're are making clothes for $1 a day for Disney. Disney is one of the 13 Evil families that run the world.

[johnu78]

You're absolutely right. Please watch my video about not sending money to Haiti.

Take care,

John

[oc5nsli341nforce4]

Like flies they sure do drop rather fast but no surprise knowing that the economy has been a sham for the last 40 years.

[johnu78]

The economy in its present form is very unsustainable. Peraculture is going to become a boom industry very soon!

Thanks for watching and take care.

-John

[oc5nsli341nforce4]

In short subsistence agriculture, the probability of a dark age is getting uncomfortable high since every thing is just right just like the fall of Rome for such a collapse.

[johnu78]

Get a copy of Gaia's Garden when you get a chance, it's a great book on permaculture.

-John

[oc5nsli341nforce4]

Thanks for the tip.

[johnu78]

You're welcome. Foragers Harvest is a great book too. It covers wild edibles. Also... read my article titled "The World of Wild Edibles" I have the link for it in this video's details.

-John