The numbers often called "arabic numbers" are actually Indian. They are called Arabic because they were brought to Europe via the Arabs. I don't want to take credit away from Arabic and muslim mathematicians, and I do know Arabic scientists achieved a lot, but they did NOT come up with our numerical system. Look it up, or try to fight with an Indian about it.
@Liverhawk25 That comment was from quite a while ago! lol
It is crap that most scientists are muslims, but to his credit, muslims did contrbiute alot to scientific progress in those times. Too bad they didn't stay on the same path...
Early Muslims were likely more scientifically minded - obviously since otherwise they wouldn`t have made the discoveries they made. Modern Muslims on the other hand are a bunch of braiwashed religious nuts.
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All you people against islam just shut up....go read the qur'an before you even say a word about islam...Islam is a beautiful religion because everything works....there is just too much to describe, all the rules set out, what to do what not to do has a reason!... ALLAHU AKBAR... all these people talking about islam athiesm christianity etc.... just wait and see
Yeah, great rules in the Koran. 4 wives, sex with your (female) slaves, you can even marry an already married slave... You can drink alcohol, though no more than you can afford, but you can't drink alcohol. The perpetual threat of Hell. Do you really think a compassionate and wise God would have written such a book?
some of the arab countries are the wealthiest in the world. Instead of building an indoor ski result or the worlds largest shifting skyscrapers how about fund a lab.
Just because some thing were invented under Islamic rule it does not make them Islamic inventions, the same way that inventions created under Christian rule are not Christian. Most inventions /technology are arrived at by smart people who happen to live under christian or Islamic rule. I am guessing that most smart people are Atheists.
Muslim scientists only ever received 2 (two) Nobel prizes.
Science4Islam on the Iron science miracle: NASA the American space Agency stated that they have made many expercinents on many kind of minerals found now on Earth but the only mineral which puss led the scientists is the iron. Iron has asistinguis led characterizes abilities. The elections and neutrons of the iron need ahugr every to get united fused.
Muslims were eating well, living on paved roads etc etc, whilst the western world were eating rats and their own nails. So what the fuck happened in the next few thousand years. Why are you moving backwards as a civilisation? You ridicule the greeks for believing the sky is on pillars, and that sperm is a little man. Yet your ficticious book makes people believe if they blow themselves up and kill infidels, that you go to a paradise and have 72 virgins waiting for you. Listen to what your saying
the concept of zero did come from that part of the world .. Christians "recented" the idea of a number equivalent to nothing.. Im not going to say that muslims came up with the concept of zero, but it most certainly was not the western world ..
JibreelK - No replies to recent text comments? Pity.
Phil's video was quite clear - there have been no recent scientific discoveries found in the Quran unless you twist it's vague words, and what little older "scientific insight" there is in the Quran was mostly already well known by other non-islamic ancients.
Q - What scientific insights were found in the Quran FIRST, and then confirmed by experiments (rather than found by science first, and THEN "found" in the Quran)?
the greeks were living in heated houses having hot baths before islam even existed. and so were the romans. the indians invented the concept of zero nothing to do with muslims at all. you do go on but only with propaganda. the flowering of islam glorouse as it was happened three and a half thousand years after egypt a simiilar number after the greeks and a thousand years after the romans. but so what islam is now a backward moraly bankrupt bronze age religeon. its a has been
Jibreel, oh, and you saying that the Muslims being advanced in the dark ages, does that mean to imply that the Quran only really contains knowledge to bring a society up to, say the 1600s or 1800s?
So... God couldn't be bothered to put more advanced stuff in there or what?
And what exactly does all this mean to other non-Islamic civilizations before and after that had lots of scientific progress?
Jibreel, are you saying then, that in the last millennium or so, Muslims haven't been able to advance much scientifically in spite of getting "help" from the Quran, because they haven't felt like it?
Apart from not having labs, that seems to be the gist of what you're saying.
Oh, and in proportion to the amount of Muslims in the world, are Muslims overrepresented in the sciences in NASA and around the world?
I agree with szkeptik that a well thought of answer even though with a touch of ignorance. I'm slightly sad to rate it quite low though. It has to do only with disagreement with your points than you as a thinking person.
Thank you, Gabriel, for enabling comments. That speaks in your favour. I'm impressed, and it gives me a chance to say something I simply forgot to say in my response, that I should have said. I should have thanked you for having the courage and integrity to at least be highly skeptical if not openly dismissive of Bucaillism. I can't recall hearing that from a Muslim still in the faith.
Will you be accepting my video response? I would have bet against it when I made it, but now I'm not so sure.
8:42 Yes, you do... and I hope that you accept Phil's video response and do some research into the evidence he cites. Let's try to keep the lines of communication open.
I don't know your age. If you are young, then I suppose it's only to be expected. But if you consider yourself to be mature, remember, THIS Muslim opened a line for debate and for other viewpoints. Don't make him regret it.
And please don't be angry at my reply. I'm just asking you to think. If you want to go on as you are will not object again. I understand your frustrations. I share them. It just seems a pity if someone is prepared to listen and "we" spit in his ear.
Great response. I think the frustration you speak of comes from the low quality vids and comments from muslims, christians and I would add atheists ( I am an atheist ) I would like to know where you stand on the evo -creation argument.
The numbers often called "arabic numbers" are actually Indian. They are called Arabic because they were brought to Europe via the Arabs. I don't want to take credit away from Arabic and muslim mathematicians, and I do know Arabic scientists achieved a lot, but they did NOT come up with our numerical system. Look it up, or try to fight with an Indian about it.
glottidum 3 months ago
I watched Phil hellenes video response and it was beautifull researched and presented, with logic, reason, wisdom and wit.
This man however, just witters along for 10 plus minutes and says practically nothing of any consequence.
How the mind differs from one human to another.
Phil was right about the brain being like a computer, but its brilliance and usefullness depends entirely on the software running it.
This mans brain is trying to work with Apple Mac circa 7th century.
throbule 10 months ago
@Liverhawk25 That comment was from quite a while ago! lol
It is crap that most scientists are muslims, but to his credit, muslims did contrbiute alot to scientific progress in those times. Too bad they didn't stay on the same path...
Gotta give credit where credit is due though.
Zentz29 1 year ago
you're a gradauate of science??? ROTFLMFFAO i doubt if u got past daycare
tomaf 1 year ago
how many nobel prizes have muslims earned? and compare to how many the jews learned. LOL
tomaf 1 year ago
muslims devlopps algorithm
khawarizmi
winskovable 1 year ago
Early Muslims were likely more scientifically minded - obviously since otherwise they wouldn`t have made the discoveries they made. Modern Muslims on the other hand are a bunch of braiwashed religious nuts.
paolo27th 1 year ago 2
I don't understand how an individual with a B.S cannot say scientific properly
nblax41 1 year ago
you ignorant atheist just go watch BBS ISLAM and SCIENCE before you talk S
AmxCsifier 1 year ago
Just get to the point, man
Keeban3 1 year ago
There never was a "dark age" in Europe.
BolnoyBratchny 1 year ago
phil helles is a rationalist fundamentalist
the fundamental rationalist mistake is this:
"there is a rational explanation for everything even if we haven't thought of it yet"
like rational explanations were somehow "out there" waiting to be discovered, a very subtle mistake and one that is EMBEDDED in the English language
The fact is, an explanation is something that ONLY EXISTS IN A HUMAN MIND, if NOONE has thought of it, it does not exist
a brave and polite response to a rude and arrogant post
TrollCatcher2010 2 years ago
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All you people against islam just shut up....go read the qur'an before you even say a word about islam...Islam is a beautiful religion because everything works....there is just too much to describe, all the rules set out, what to do what not to do has a reason!... ALLAHU AKBAR... all these people talking about islam athiesm christianity etc.... just wait and see
affy 2 years ago
Yeah, great rules in the Koran. 4 wives, sex with your (female) slaves, you can even marry an already married slave... You can drink alcohol, though no more than you can afford, but you can't drink alcohol. The perpetual threat of Hell. Do you really think a compassionate and wise God would have written such a book?
Gorteenminogue 2 years ago 6
Islam is as beautiful as Scientology is gorgeous.
TurboDally 2 years ago 3
some of the arab countries are the wealthiest in the world. Instead of building an indoor ski result or the worlds largest shifting skyscrapers how about fund a lab.
mattywash 2 years ago 7
I couldn't even stand the half of the video. You were brainwashed; religion sucks.
SeltsamerAttraktor 2 years ago 6
you find that the "overwhelming majority" of scientists are muslim?
did you really say that?
flat out lies...
Zentz29 2 years ago 32
Just because some thing were invented under Islamic rule it does not make them Islamic inventions, the same way that inventions created under Christian rule are not Christian. Most inventions /technology are arrived at by smart people who happen to live under christian or Islamic rule. I am guessing that most smart people are Atheists.
jamesfromwimbledon 2 years ago
The decimal system is from India.
Name a discovery a Muslim scientist made.
Muslim scientists only ever received 2 (two) Nobel prizes.
Science4Islam on the Iron science miracle: NASA the American space Agency stated that they have made many expercinents on many kind of minerals found now on Earth but the only mineral which puss led the scientists is the iron. Iron has asistinguis led characterizes abilities. The elections and neutrons of the iron need ahugr every to get united fused.
StopSpamming1 2 years ago 2
Muslims were eating well, living on paved roads etc etc, whilst the western world were eating rats and their own nails. So what the fuck happened in the next few thousand years. Why are you moving backwards as a civilisation? You ridicule the greeks for believing the sky is on pillars, and that sperm is a little man. Yet your ficticious book makes people believe if they blow themselves up and kill infidels, that you go to a paradise and have 72 virgins waiting for you. Listen to what your saying
Hardysamnin 2 years ago 8
The C-section? The "Cesar"ean section? That was the Romans. You shouldnt be talking about not backing claims.
HighwayHaloFilms 2 years ago
Typical.
Rshimy 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
he has some damn good points
achilleus11 2 years ago
ROFL
Did he just said "Muslim came up with a Concept of ZEro" ? O_o
Wow
Subhanallah
And you call yourself a Student of Science and Psychology JibreelK? Lol
I am Amazed!!
You are a juke on youtube JibreelK
To be frank
"MUSLIM INVENTED THE CONCEPT OF ZERO" << BAHAHAHAHAHA
PWNED!!
Lowpostdefence 2 years ago 3
the concept of zero did come from that part of the world .. Christians "recented" the idea of a number equivalent to nothing.. Im not going to say that muslims came up with the concept of zero, but it most certainly was not the western world ..
TheNocius 2 years ago
JibreelK - No replies to recent text comments? Pity.
Phil's video was quite clear - there have been no recent scientific discoveries found in the Quran unless you twist it's vague words, and what little older "scientific insight" there is in the Quran was mostly already well known by other non-islamic ancients.
Q - What scientific insights were found in the Quran FIRST, and then confirmed by experiments (rather than found by science first, and THEN "found" in the Quran)?
A - None of them.
skevosmavros 2 years ago 12
Did the Egyptians not use hunny to help prezerve their dead... like what? 5000 years ago.. noob.. back up your education because I'm not buying it..
GrimSoul66 3 years ago 13
the greeks were living in heated houses having hot baths before islam even existed. and so were the romans. the indians invented the concept of zero nothing to do with muslims at all. you do go on but only with propaganda. the flowering of islam glorouse as it was happened three and a half thousand years after egypt a simiilar number after the greeks and a thousand years after the romans. but so what islam is now a backward moraly bankrupt bronze age religeon. its a has been
ooglebydoogleby 3 years ago 13
he lost his mind after converting to islam...
gpardhu 3 years ago 8
Testing
AnnCunter 3 years ago
great vid Jibreel =D
islamists 3 years ago
Credit to you for accepting Phil's response :-)
An extra star on the strength of that.**
dhimmiwit 3 years ago 7
Jibreel, oh, and you saying that the Muslims being advanced in the dark ages, does that mean to imply that the Quran only really contains knowledge to bring a society up to, say the 1600s or 1800s?
So... God couldn't be bothered to put more advanced stuff in there or what?
And what exactly does all this mean to other non-Islamic civilizations before and after that had lots of scientific progress?
Gnug215 3 years ago
Jibreel, are you saying then, that in the last millennium or so, Muslims haven't been able to advance much scientifically in spite of getting "help" from the Quran, because they haven't felt like it?
Apart from not having labs, that seems to be the gist of what you're saying.
Oh, and in proportion to the amount of Muslims in the world, are Muslims overrepresented in the sciences in NASA and around the world?
Gnug215 3 years ago
Hurray for free speech.
I agree with szkeptik that a well thought of answer even though with a touch of ignorance. I'm slightly sad to rate it quite low though. It has to do only with disagreement with your points than you as a thinking person.
omegavalerius 3 years ago
Thank you, Gabriel, for enabling comments. That speaks in your favour. I'm impressed, and it gives me a chance to say something I simply forgot to say in my response, that I should have said. I should have thanked you for having the courage and integrity to at least be highly skeptical if not openly dismissive of Bucaillism. I can't recall hearing that from a Muslim still in the faith.
Will you be accepting my video response? I would have bet against it when I made it, but now I'm not so sure.
philhellenes 3 years ago 27
Respect to JibreelK for allowing ur comments...
I'm thinking highly of him now
fullygodfullyhuman 3 years ago
It's good to hear a sensible response form a muslim. Mostly it's just something like "You are wrong you will burn Allah will punish you bla bla bla"
Szkeptik 3 years ago 6
8:42 Yes, you do... and I hope that you accept Phil's video response and do some research into the evidence he cites. Let's try to keep the lines of communication open.
jussts 3 years ago 2
Silly Muslim Education is for kids
GabrielGrewal 3 years ago
I don't know your age. If you are young, then I suppose it's only to be expected. But if you consider yourself to be mature, remember, THIS Muslim opened a line for debate and for other viewpoints. Don't make him regret it.
And please don't be angry at my reply. I'm just asking you to think. If you want to go on as you are will not object again. I understand your frustrations. I share them. It just seems a pity if someone is prepared to listen and "we" spit in his ear.
philhellenes 3 years ago 12
Accept philhellene's response, nub. :)
Michigan1985 3 years ago 12
Great response. I think the frustration you speak of comes from the low quality vids and comments from muslims, christians and I would add atheists ( I am an atheist ) I would like to know where you stand on the evo -creation argument.
grenangle 3 years ago 4
phil hellenes is the man
Jibree I commend you for engaging in open discourse with atheists.
Many people in the west view muslims as evil, and any muslims view the west, and especially atheists as vile.
To end these unfounded stereotypes, it is important that we exchange ideas and debate in a civil manner.
pokermaster54 3 years ago
testing testing....
Are comments allowed now?
Kantoc 3 years ago