I don't think this guy understands the argument propounded by the most prominent liberals in the US. Of course insurance coverage won't make people live healthier (in theory, in fact, the exact opposite would be the case). The liberals' case revolves around efficiency and supply incentives, not demand incentives.
Excellent point. I argue with "conservatives" who want to keep their Medicare. Medicare is part of the problem. The left is hopeless. They want to continue spending us into bankruptcy.
I don't think everyone being insured was ever suppose to make everyone healthly. It's for that 10% that you speak of that would mostly consist of emergencies. It's nice to go to the hospital(any hospital) and not worry about if you can get treatment or if it will bankrupt you. Or not to worry if you are covered for which ever treatment or how much the deductibles will be.
I want the freedom to be fit or fat, healthy or unhealthy, informed or ignorant. The more freedom I have to live the way that I want, the happier I am.
But aren't many Americans are apprehensive towards federal govt in the sphere of their private lives? I don't see the US govt imposing a universal smoking ban in public or levy very high duties on them; forcing companies to stop producing 'king-size' treats etc.; or total ban on junk food for kids.
What's wrong with a fereral mandate on healthcare insurance? The federal government mandates that: EVERYONE HAS CAR INSURANCE, HOME INSURANCE, LEGAL AGE FOR VOTING (18) . . . . SO WHY IN THE HELL CANT' WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
All these retarded republicans are against social change. What's wrong with social change? If it weren't for social change there would still be: SLAVERY, JIM CROW LAWS, SEGREGATION, NO WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE . . . .
People with quality insurance say leave their insurance alone not because there against reform" Making It More Affordable" but against government mandates and paying for those without. He also says Insurance is the problem. When in fact it is state set criteria for Insurance and over 400 mergers of HMO's in the last decade. 56% of underwriting by single entities. Government is not enforcing antitrust laws. His solution sounds like government telling us how to live and excercise "police state"
Well said, my personal belief is that its not profitable for people to be healthy. It is more profitable to the insurance and pharmacutical companies for people to become ill and desperate. I use to be a huge advocate for healthcare reform, but as the right and the left constantly argue over irrelavant issues I concluded that nothing beneficial "for the majority of Americans" will come out of any reform.
Um, republicans aren't saying "Hands off healthcare", they're saying "Please don't completely destroy American medicine and 1/6th of the economy completely for a very small percentage of people to become insured."
A fundamental principle of economics is that high prices almost always indicate a lack of production and competition. Even in free markets it's to be expected that supplies will fluctuate but it's never extreme and it always works itself out. Persistent price extremities like we're seeing in every industry only happen when lawmakers create monopolies, mainly through the patent system. Nobody ever talks about that. The best fix for the entire economy is to abolish the patent system.
Universal health care will consist of one thing when we go to see a doctor. We will tell them what wrong and they will most likely say, "here take some advil" and that will be it. It will be just as good as Kaisers insurance!!!!
this is the first stage of the government take over. first they controll health care then they start to controll other things and slowly slip throught the greatest document ever written. soon we will end up like russia. our freedom will be only an illusion...
let everyone handle their own situations, if they end up a hobo then its their fault. the gov. is starting to try to controll how we live
and stimulus=shit idea as of right now i owe this country $57,000
The public option is not the same as single payer. But Obama plans to move from public option to single payer quickly. I know Obama has denied this, but he lies. See the YouTube video watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
If you ever thought you could trust Obama, you will not trust him again after watching that video. Obama is scheduled to give a big healthcare speech next week, only this time no one will believe him.
Answer this one pal...A 20 year old dies from lung cancer, and they have never smoked.Who do you want to blame? Most people that are against health care reform have a good paying jobs with insurance ,maybe they don't need insurance if they live the way you're talking..Maybe if they don't have it they'll have to file for bankruptcy..Is that smart?
No one seems to care about personal responsibility for their health, just like they did not care about personal responsibility for their finances, it is all about channeling money from those who make prudent decisions to those who make risky decisions.
How many people know someone who looked like they were trying to kill them self with drug and other stuff and now are on disability for the rest of their life and the tax payers pick up the bill.
Attempted suicide is not covered by insurance, if they wake up, they eventually get the bill or in the case of my sister, my parents got the bill. In any case Medicare already ensures tax payers will pay for anyone who makes it to 65, no matter their choices and lifestyle.
If anyone doesn't like the U.S. government interferring with their health care, then I say to them, "don't take my social security money. Don't take my Medicaid and Medicare that I cannot use because I am too young". You baby boomers who I'm sure still use nasty illegal drugs need to be sober before opening your mouths at these town hall meetings.
Stop stereotyping everybody out there... It's funny nothing is being said about all the jobs that went to China because corporations want to make more money for themselves and their shareholders..Cost rise,wages fall, and insurance and health care cost go through the ceiling. Can we say wake up??
it would be interesting to see how people's behavioral patterns change with regular visits to a doctor. If one is made more aware of how their choices are affecting their health, one might move toward making better decisions as result.
I think that anyone under 40 .....who supports this socialistic crap that will kill off all of their older relatives........should be sentenced to providing hospice care for the next 20 years.
Here's what I want from health care: free maintenance for healthy or decently healthy people. (check-ups and optional housing) Heavily low-cost or free preventions. (emergency room visits, safe sex, exercise groups, basic education classes) Free screenings and recommendations concerning (possibly) serious medical problems (anything that observes the body, being sent from one doctor to another) If something's our fault, I think we should be responsible for our unhealthy choices. idiot charges
You are naive. The issue is the bill as it is written not the subject as a whole. While everyone agrees that healthcare reform is needed, is a single-payer, socialistic approach the answer? The answer is no. The House Bill 3200 is nothing more than a Federal takeover of 17% of our GDP and injects Government control over life. Who gets what. This bill does nothing to improve health care. You say you love politics. Good. Use that love to dig deeper than present both sides and some trite opinions.
Your problem.....and Obama's problem is that you are ready to throw the Baby Boomer Elderly under the bus. Obama has NO plan to do anything but screw them.....and yes.....when they are all dead ......your ride will be saweeeet.
The object of you young turds getting Health Insurance.....has nothing to do with whether you get healthier or not.........it has to do with increasing the Cash in the Pool......to cover the costs of your parents getting radiation, etc. For once in your life......think of someone other than your worthless self.
I live in Canada and I will tell you National Health Care is a disaster and dont make the same mistake as we did. You pay thousands of dollars into the system, even though you may never become ill. If you do become ill with cancer or other life threatening diseases you will wait up to 6 or more just to be able to receive treatment. National Healthcare is definately not the way to go.
That's a long time to wait, but you have to understand that here, in many cases, it's not a matter of waiting. There's no damned line and no destination other than sickness and death. I'd rather wait. I'd like to hear opinions about Canada's system that refer to factors other than wait time. Genuinely.
Hey YoYo.............let me help you understand. Insurance and Healthcare exist because sooner or later 1 out of 10 of us are gonna need them. We ....well, not you......but the other "we" all pay into the system to cover the expenses of those poor bastards that get sick. ......Yeah....your worthless do-nothing generation only needs to worry about wellness.....right now. But those old fat people you see yelling at the "Town Hall" meetings....they are ready to cash in.
Fat people should pay more just for the fact that I have to look at them everyday at work. I'm down here in Southwest Texas and I swear every woman in this city is fat (and stumbling around staring at their cellphone). How fat are the women in San Angelo TX? 14 out of 10 women here are fat!
hey SFB. San Angelo is south of Abilene to the west and about 165 miles from Mexico and considered southwest. Are you thinking of San antonio and where the hell are you from? get a map.
San Angelo is on about the same Latitude as Waco and Odessa......neither of which are consided to be part of South Texas...... North and South.....San Angelo is pretty much dead center of Texas. East and West........they are only slightly West of Center. Just so you know......San Antonio is the beginning of South Texas. Anything north of San Antonio is considered Central Texas. You stand corrected.
I'm trying to follow the healthcare debate and seriously I still haven't been able to find a detailed list of changes Obama wants. The funniest thing to me is these dumb ass redneck fuckers at the town halls have no fucking idea about any of this and spew word's that they've heard Rush or CNN/Fox say like, "socialism, loss of liberty, blah blah.." but they have no fucking clue what they are protesting. They all look like wrestling fans. toothless fucking hillbillies. LOL
I think people who are fat should be taxed on a percentage measured by how much they are overweight.
It costs the health care last year as I understand 158 billion dollars because of related desease due to being fat. Like smokers who pay high taxes on purchasing cigarettes.
...................................Brain Shit Syndrome costs the health care money as well. Brain Shit Syndrome is prevelent amongst the far right wing of the conservative party.
(1) And where does that stop? No really. To fat? Pay more. Eat red meat? Pay more. Smoke? Pay more. Don't do sports? Pay more? Really. You want to pay more for not sporting? Shoud government put a regulation on how much you should sport? Fat people should be shouted at in the streets. Adds should run all day, McDonalds should be publicly attacked. Thats creating awereness.
Nobody talks about the doctors. If everyone is insured, more people will want care. It's just a matter of fact. But, Doctors will have to accept the Government wage = less doctors come into the system. Plus, if ins companies have to eliminate the max cap and also pre-existing conditions, the costs will go up dramatically.
How are lifestyle choices and socio-economics/education not intertwined? By and large, who is more likely to smoke, drink whole milk, and fry, salt, and butter everything? Cletus Whitaker of the Appalachians or Simon Prescott of the Gold Coast?
ok, i'm scared. what are you arguing here? for the goverment to not focus on the 10% that is health care but the 40% and 30% that is lifestyle and genetics? Gezz, i was scared about the government's control america's health care system. don't clue them in to the idea of trying to regulated, manage, and dictate my entire life style and my genetic material!
YES The Health of The General public is all that counts! Health insurance will not solve the issue because people will still have to pay, and not every1 can afford to pay for health insurance. And Health care in the states is THE BEST in the world.... but YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT if your poor your pretty much fucked.
Although I agree with true HEALTH CARE, as you've described it, the question were are trying to answer is NOT the "how do we improve health", it IS how do we provide MEDICAL TREATMENT, put a floor under the suffering caused by people with acute health problems not being able to get the care we know could remedy that acute suffering.
Using the inaccurate euphemism "health care" for medical treatment is indeed a problem of our society's discussion.
The true issue at hand and choice being made is about using taxpayer money to either keep the people oppressed as health care consumers of large, centralized corporate insurance plans, who's profits are subsidized by public funding, or empowering the people to become health care providers, creating alternative, cost effective care systems for individuals, families and business.
Unfortunately the choice is not yours, unless millions are willing to take their decision to the streets.
Wrong, the democrats are reforming because the quality is also a factor. If it isn't as you say? Why are the democrats advocating for preventative care.
That is a very good point that even people with insurance or coverage will make bad choices but there are people out their with chronic problems that work their asses off, go to college, and need medical coverage. They are not lazy, they are not out to take advantage of the system but conservatives make anyone for universal health care pegged to the same hole and that's bullshit just because they are wealthy enough to take care of their own and don't care about their fellow citizens.
I believe that a better health education and better income for the Average American would dramatically improve our health care system.
We do not stress the importance of health education in our middle, high schools, or our colleges. This would make more Americans aware of the risky behaviors and decisions we make.
Better income for average person would allow access to gyms, healther foods, that many Americans can't afford.
The Right wants them to stop with the public option. At this point, a health care reform bill with a public option will not pass. The townhall protests made that quite clear.
The townhall protests are manufactured. Sure, there are some Americans that are concerned about the public option, but there are many protestors who are involved just to thwart the efforts of heath-care reform advocates.
The public option have the approval of majority of Americans. Even if it didn't, so what? Do you know how many bills passed during the Bush admin. without the consent of the American people?
The protest would be moot if Democrats would grow a pair.
I doubt they're manufactured, but the response sure is. The SEIU is packing these townhalls now. ACORN is protesting the protesters with professionally made signs. The protesters on my side are using poster board and ink pens. Who looks more manufactured: the one handing out Obamacare literature or the person with the home-made sign?
You doubt they're manufactured??? I hate to tell you this, but the jury is out on this one. FreedomWorks and other Rep. groups have distributed pamphets telling people how to disrupt townhall meetings. They are even busing people from other states to end debate.
The design of the protest sign doesn't matter when your intent is dishonest.
I don't understand why do Rep. disapprove of the public option plan. If you don't like it, then you can choose a privately-run health insurance plan.
LOL. Yes, bills passed without the will of the people behind them, perhaps. But what you don't understand and what those 60% don't understand is that Obama is using the public option to get single-payer. He admitted this. You lose.
Obamacare is on the ropes because only 30-35% support it now. That's a problem. People want reform, but they don't Obama's form of reform.
Obamacare is on the ropes, but it is not because it is losing the support of most Americans.
In fact, according to Gallup poll, "Americans responding to questions asked by various polling organizations in recent weeks indicate that they do favor a public option plan (run by the government) that would compete with private plans." See "Americans on Healthcare Reform: Top 10 Takeaways."
The only way the public option would become a single-payer if private plans can't compete.
Um, I know that. But a majority of Americans don't want Obamacare. I don't understand it any more than you do. Those two polls contradict each other. If a qualifying question was "Did you know Obama wants to use the public plan to reach single-payer?" If they asked that first, the number would shrink to 20%.
If the public option undercuts them, which it will, they'll die. Public always kills private because it never has to care about the bottom line.
I don't think anyone will be willing to debate actual health with you I'm afraid. From what I see/hear the american ethic enshrines gluttony and it's accompanying economies - of which healtcare is a part, far too much.
Good. But it's never too late to roll back the state. We can't change things overnight and promises have already been made but this is key to making Americans take ownership of their own health.
That's one of the major problems with government programs, they don't die even if they don't work. Instead they grow into tumors. I mean, even if it appears like a good plan for a noble goal, it's almost still not even then worth the risk. :/
The right says that so that they don't put more hands on. If you cut off one leg you shouldn't say "oh well, one is off, mind as well cut all my limbs off."
you don't seem to understand there is a huge difference between medicare and healthcare in fact they are completely different things
xHippieHunter 9 months ago
I don't think this guy understands the argument propounded by the most prominent liberals in the US. Of course insurance coverage won't make people live healthier (in theory, in fact, the exact opposite would be the case). The liberals' case revolves around efficiency and supply incentives, not demand incentives.
henripche 10 months ago
thank you for this vid, I absolutely agree!!
roullettechick 1 year ago
Excellent point. I argue with "conservatives" who want to keep their Medicare. Medicare is part of the problem. The left is hopeless. They want to continue spending us into bankruptcy.
jscottupton 1 year ago
I don't think everyone being insured was ever suppose to make everyone healthly. It's for that 10% that you speak of that would mostly consist of emergencies. It's nice to go to the hospital(any hospital) and not worry about if you can get treatment or if it will bankrupt you. Or not to worry if you are covered for which ever treatment or how much the deductibles will be.
urantivirus 1 year ago
I want the freedom to be fit or fat, healthy or unhealthy, informed or ignorant. The more freedom I have to live the way that I want, the happier I am.
ComicPenius 1 year ago
15% socioeconomic -- I think insurance could affect that part as well unless Kitzhaber controlled for that, which would be pretty difficult.
machi4velli 1 year ago
But aren't many Americans are apprehensive towards federal govt in the sphere of their private lives? I don't see the US govt imposing a universal smoking ban in public or levy very high duties on them; forcing companies to stop producing 'king-size' treats etc.; or total ban on junk food for kids.
historyboy12 1 year ago
What's wrong with a fereral mandate on healthcare insurance? The federal government mandates that: EVERYONE HAS CAR INSURANCE, HOME INSURANCE, LEGAL AGE FOR VOTING (18) . . . . SO WHY IN THE HELL CANT' WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
All these retarded republicans are against social change. What's wrong with social change? If it weren't for social change there would still be: SLAVERY, JIM CROW LAWS, SEGREGATION, NO WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE . . . .
DSkeptic86 1 year ago
People with quality insurance say leave their insurance alone not because there against reform" Making It More Affordable" but against government mandates and paying for those without. He also says Insurance is the problem. When in fact it is state set criteria for Insurance and over 400 mergers of HMO's in the last decade. 56% of underwriting by single entities. Government is not enforcing antitrust laws. His solution sounds like government telling us how to live and excercise "police state"
joe035 1 year ago
great logical rational video! thanks
meariley 2 years ago
Well said, my personal belief is that its not profitable for people to be healthy. It is more profitable to the insurance and pharmacutical companies for people to become ill and desperate. I use to be a huge advocate for healthcare reform, but as the right and the left constantly argue over irrelavant issues I concluded that nothing beneficial "for the majority of Americans" will come out of any reform.
NOR19ANDRO 2 years ago
Logical and rational. I love it! Now if someone would listen!
1984izComing 2 years ago
@1984izComing His solution is a police state where we are told what to eat and required to excercise. This sounds good to you?
joe035 1 year ago
Um, republicans aren't saying "Hands off healthcare", they're saying "Please don't completely destroy American medicine and 1/6th of the economy completely for a very small percentage of people to become insured."
svguerin3 2 years ago
Yeah just live them un insured.
llcontrall 2 years ago
@svguerin3 Your right he is a fine example of liberal bullshit.
joe035 1 year ago
i think improving health wont help any of the gov problems
everybody s gonna die
the olonger you live, the more problems you have, the more money spent on health care
so the debate isnt about this, its about health INSURANCE ONLY
joecandito 2 years ago
A fundamental principle of economics is that high prices almost always indicate a lack of production and competition. Even in free markets it's to be expected that supplies will fluctuate but it's never extreme and it always works itself out. Persistent price extremities like we're seeing in every industry only happen when lawmakers create monopolies, mainly through the patent system. Nobody ever talks about that. The best fix for the entire economy is to abolish the patent system.
Piscivorus 2 years ago 3
Universal health care will consist of one thing when we go to see a doctor. We will tell them what wrong and they will most likely say, "here take some advil" and that will be it. It will be just as good as Kaisers insurance!!!!
Mavro75 2 years ago
this is the first stage of the government take over. first they controll health care then they start to controll other things and slowly slip throught the greatest document ever written. soon we will end up like russia. our freedom will be only an illusion...
let everyone handle their own situations, if they end up a hobo then its their fault. the gov. is starting to try to controll how we live
and stimulus=shit idea as of right now i owe this country $57,000
MillerMachinima 2 years ago
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The public option is not the same as single payer. But Obama plans to move from public option to single payer quickly. I know Obama has denied this, but he lies. See the YouTube video watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
If you ever thought you could trust Obama, you will not trust him again after watching that video. Obama is scheduled to give a big healthcare speech next week, only this time no one will believe him.
roncram 2 years ago
Answer this one pal...A 20 year old dies from lung cancer, and they have never smoked.Who do you want to blame? Most people that are against health care reform have a good paying jobs with insurance ,maybe they don't need insurance if they live the way you're talking..Maybe if they don't have it they'll have to file for bankruptcy..Is that smart?
pcjunkie54 2 years ago 2
No one seems to care about personal responsibility for their health, just like they did not care about personal responsibility for their finances, it is all about channeling money from those who make prudent decisions to those who make risky decisions.
juliemathos 2 years ago
How many people know someone who looked like they were trying to kill them self with drug and other stuff and now are on disability for the rest of their life and the tax payers pick up the bill.
AsherZ42 2 years ago
Attempted suicide is not covered by insurance, if they wake up, they eventually get the bill or in the case of my sister, my parents got the bill. In any case Medicare already ensures tax payers will pay for anyone who makes it to 65, no matter their choices and lifestyle.
juliemathos 2 years ago
its the health, he's right. The Gov should regulate cause for cost purposes the private sector and companies are never gonna do it
admitit 2 years ago
If anyone doesn't like the U.S. government interferring with their health care, then I say to them, "don't take my social security money. Don't take my Medicaid and Medicare that I cannot use because I am too young". You baby boomers who I'm sure still use nasty illegal drugs need to be sober before opening your mouths at these town hall meetings.
FelinityMithra 2 years ago
Why don't you talk to the government on that one pal,their spending social security money on other things besides retirement
pcjunkie54 2 years ago
come to Canada ! FREE FREE FREE!
keeps00000 2 years ago
Stop driving cars everywhere and stop eating unhealthily. Walk to the corner store instead of driving. Or bike to it if you want speed.
kirby4d 2 years ago
I live in SPACE. Thats non of my worries :P
DanielAvilaAGT 2 years ago
Stop stereotyping everybody out there... It's funny nothing is being said about all the jobs that went to China because corporations want to make more money for themselves and their shareholders..Cost rise,wages fall, and insurance and health care cost go through the ceiling. Can we say wake up??
pcjunkie54 2 years ago
it would be interesting to see how people's behavioral patterns change with regular visits to a doctor. If one is made more aware of how their choices are affecting their health, one might move toward making better decisions as result.
itsmeagain0008 2 years ago
I think that anyone under 40 .....who supports this socialistic crap that will kill off all of their older relatives........should be sentenced to providing hospice care for the next 20 years.
catndryer 2 years ago
Here's what I want from health care: free maintenance for healthy or decently healthy people. (check-ups and optional housing) Heavily low-cost or free preventions. (emergency room visits, safe sex, exercise groups, basic education classes) Free screenings and recommendations concerning (possibly) serious medical problems (anything that observes the body, being sent from one doctor to another) If something's our fault, I think we should be responsible for our unhealthy choices. idiot charges
sirdeadlock 2 years ago
MOVE to CANADA. they have what you desire. seriously. no B.S
DanielAvilaAGT 2 years ago 2
And how will moving to Canada improve the situation in the USA? Apart from being spared the pure chaos that is myself, that is. *being silly*
sirdeadlock 2 years ago
The way the American system is today, socioeconomic factors certainly have a lot to do with one's health.
andrew1218 2 years ago
You are naive. The issue is the bill as it is written not the subject as a whole. While everyone agrees that healthcare reform is needed, is a single-payer, socialistic approach the answer? The answer is no. The House Bill 3200 is nothing more than a Federal takeover of 17% of our GDP and injects Government control over life. Who gets what. This bill does nothing to improve health care. You say you love politics. Good. Use that love to dig deeper than present both sides and some trite opinions.
scottiswatchingtele 2 years ago
hey i have a question what are the top ten countries when it comes to healthcare?
and What Type of healthcare do they have
xfvkemosx 2 years ago
Right again, James!
ailboles 2 years ago
Your problem.....and Obama's problem is that you are ready to throw the Baby Boomer Elderly under the bus. Obama has NO plan to do anything but screw them.....and yes.....when they are all dead ......your ride will be saweeeet.
catndryer 2 years ago
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xfvkemosx 2 years ago
The object of you young turds getting Health Insurance.....has nothing to do with whether you get healthier or not.........it has to do with increasing the Cash in the Pool......to cover the costs of your parents getting radiation, etc. For once in your life......think of someone other than your worthless self.
catndryer 2 years ago
I live in Canada and I will tell you National Health Care is a disaster and dont make the same mistake as we did. You pay thousands of dollars into the system, even though you may never become ill. If you do become ill with cancer or other life threatening diseases you will wait up to 6 or more just to be able to receive treatment. National Healthcare is definately not the way to go.
Hathman60 2 years ago
That's a long time to wait, but you have to understand that here, in many cases, it's not a matter of waiting. There's no damned line and no destination other than sickness and death. I'd rather wait. I'd like to hear opinions about Canada's system that refer to factors other than wait time. Genuinely.
gotilk 2 years ago
to bad you dont live in canada because i ding'd your IP
xfvkemosx 2 years ago
Hey YoYo.............let me help you understand. Insurance and Healthcare exist because sooner or later 1 out of 10 of us are gonna need them. We ....well, not you......but the other "we" all pay into the system to cover the expenses of those poor bastards that get sick. ......Yeah....your worthless do-nothing generation only needs to worry about wellness.....right now. But those old fat people you see yelling at the "Town Hall" meetings....they are ready to cash in.
catndryer 2 years ago
Fat people should pay more just for the fact that I have to look at them everyday at work. I'm down here in Southwest Texas and I swear every woman in this city is fat (and stumbling around staring at their cellphone). How fat are the women in San Angelo TX? 14 out of 10 women here are fat!
rleary1 2 years ago
San Angelo is not in the Southwest part of Texas. Hell....you don't even know where you are.........
catndryer 2 years ago
hey SFB. San Angelo is south of Abilene to the west and about 165 miles from Mexico and considered southwest. Are you thinking of San antonio and where the hell are you from? get a map.
rleary1 2 years ago
San Angelo is on about the same Latitude as Waco and Odessa......neither of which are consided to be part of South Texas...... North and South.....San Angelo is pretty much dead center of Texas. East and West........they are only slightly West of Center. Just so you know......San Antonio is the beginning of South Texas. Anything north of San Antonio is considered Central Texas. You stand corrected.
catndryer 2 years ago
and furthermore, the women in this city are sooo fat they're leaning our city to the West.
rleary1 2 years ago
I'm trying to follow the healthcare debate and seriously I still haven't been able to find a detailed list of changes Obama wants. The funniest thing to me is these dumb ass redneck fuckers at the town halls have no fucking idea about any of this and spew word's that they've heard Rush or CNN/Fox say like, "socialism, loss of liberty, blah blah.." but they have no fucking clue what they are protesting. They all look like wrestling fans. toothless fucking hillbillies. LOL
rleary1 2 years ago
Ladies and Gentlemen
I think people who are fat should be taxed on a percentage measured by how much they are overweight.
It costs the health care last year as I understand 158 billion dollars because of related desease due to being fat. Like smokers who pay high taxes on purchasing cigarettes.
...................................Brain Shit Syndrome costs the health care money as well. Brain Shit Syndrome is prevelent amongst the far right wing of the conservative party.
uniquemetal 2 years ago
(1) And where does that stop? No really. To fat? Pay more. Eat red meat? Pay more. Smoke? Pay more. Don't do sports? Pay more? Really. You want to pay more for not sporting? Shoud government put a regulation on how much you should sport? Fat people should be shouted at in the streets. Adds should run all day, McDonalds should be publicly attacked. Thats creating awereness.
wimscheers 2 years ago
(2) YOURE TO FAT, YOURE GOING TO DIE. Thats what we should scream out. WE, not some scrummy ass vegan living with a stick up her arse.
wimscheers 2 years ago
Nobody talks about the doctors. If everyone is insured, more people will want care. It's just a matter of fact. But, Doctors will have to accept the Government wage = less doctors come into the system. Plus, if ins companies have to eliminate the max cap and also pre-existing conditions, the costs will go up dramatically.
marco114 2 years ago
How are lifestyle choices and socio-economics/education not intertwined? By and large, who is more likely to smoke, drink whole milk, and fry, salt, and butter everything? Cletus Whitaker of the Appalachians or Simon Prescott of the Gold Coast?
DJK1726 2 years ago
Just show me any government run health organization that is doing a great job??
ZIP, ZERO, NADA The government cant do this any better than Medicare, the VA hospitals, welfare, social security or the IRS.
My GOD you cant believe they can take care of your healthyoure not that stupid are you??? Or are you??
VirginianAmerican 2 years ago
ok, i'm scared. what are you arguing here? for the goverment to not focus on the 10% that is health care but the 40% and 30% that is lifestyle and genetics? Gezz, i was scared about the government's control america's health care system. don't clue them in to the idea of trying to regulated, manage, and dictate my entire life style and my genetic material!
:P
jessamyn19 2 years ago
YES The Health of The General public is all that counts! Health insurance will not solve the issue because people will still have to pay, and not every1 can afford to pay for health insurance. And Health care in the states is THE BEST in the world.... but YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT if your poor your pretty much fucked.
MsRachelHalpin 2 years ago
WOOT OREGON !!!!
jschrein 2 years ago
Kotecki for Health 2012
foititis 2 years ago
Although I agree with true HEALTH CARE, as you've described it, the question were are trying to answer is NOT the "how do we improve health", it IS how do we provide MEDICAL TREATMENT, put a floor under the suffering caused by people with acute health problems not being able to get the care we know could remedy that acute suffering.
Using the inaccurate euphemism "health care" for medical treatment is indeed a problem of our society's discussion.
givebirthathome 2 years ago
Planned protest or not, it is still discontent with the President's plans.
They dislike the current plan for several reasons (none of which I care to verify):
1. Members of Congress have not read the bill; they would not want to be a part of this system.
2. The plan's implementation will take money from Medicare.
3. It is too much government intervention.
4. It may eliminate competition, and thus everyone may end up being on a government plan. (People will lose their CHOICE factor)
TheFriendlyFox 2 years ago
The true issue at hand and choice being made is about using taxpayer money to either keep the people oppressed as health care consumers of large, centralized corporate insurance plans, who's profits are subsidized by public funding, or empowering the people to become health care providers, creating alternative, cost effective care systems for individuals, families and business.
Unfortunately the choice is not yours, unless millions are willing to take their decision to the streets.
C.H.A.O.S.
PeaceProfit 2 years ago
Wrong, the democrats are reforming because the quality is also a factor. If it isn't as you say? Why are the democrats advocating for preventative care.
MoralityVirtue2 2 years ago
Easy, send everyone who is 30 or older to carousel for renewal...and send sandmen after those who run.
zurich75mwp 2 years ago
something wicked this way comes?
questforfire69 2 years ago
Great video 5/5
Filchmeister 2 years ago
That is a very good point that even people with insurance or coverage will make bad choices but there are people out their with chronic problems that work their asses off, go to college, and need medical coverage. They are not lazy, they are not out to take advantage of the system but conservatives make anyone for universal health care pegged to the same hole and that's bullshit just because they are wealthy enough to take care of their own and don't care about their fellow citizens.
great1138 2 years ago
I believe that a better health education and better income for the Average American would dramatically improve our health care system.
We do not stress the importance of health education in our middle, high schools, or our colleges. This would make more Americans aware of the risky behaviors and decisions we make.
Better income for average person would allow access to gyms, healther foods, that many Americans can't afford.
hollyhoodjoe123 2 years ago
The Right wants them to stop with the public option. At this point, a health care reform bill with a public option will not pass. The townhall protests made that quite clear.
ObamaWatch1212 2 years ago
The townhall protests are manufactured. Sure, there are some Americans that are concerned about the public option, but there are many protestors who are involved just to thwart the efforts of heath-care reform advocates.
The public option have the approval of majority of Americans. Even if it didn't, so what? Do you know how many bills passed during the Bush admin. without the consent of the American people?
The protest would be moot if Democrats would grow a pair.
hollyhoodjoe123 2 years ago 2
I doubt they're manufactured, but the response sure is. The SEIU is packing these townhalls now. ACORN is protesting the protesters with professionally made signs. The protesters on my side are using poster board and ink pens. Who looks more manufactured: the one handing out Obamacare literature or the person with the home-made sign?
ObamaWatch1212 2 years ago
You doubt they're manufactured??? I hate to tell you this, but the jury is out on this one. FreedomWorks and other Rep. groups have distributed pamphets telling people how to disrupt townhall meetings. They are even busing people from other states to end debate.
The design of the protest sign doesn't matter when your intent is dishonest.
I don't understand why do Rep. disapprove of the public option plan. If you don't like it, then you can choose a privately-run health insurance plan.
hollyhoodjoe123 2 years ago
LOL. Yes, bills passed without the will of the people behind them, perhaps. But what you don't understand and what those 60% don't understand is that Obama is using the public option to get single-payer. He admitted this. You lose.
Obamacare is on the ropes because only 30-35% support it now. That's a problem. People want reform, but they don't Obama's form of reform.
ObamaWatch1212 2 years ago
Obamacare is on the ropes, but it is not because it is losing the support of most Americans.
In fact, according to Gallup poll, "Americans responding to questions asked by various polling organizations in recent weeks indicate that they do favor a public option plan (run by the government) that would compete with private plans." See "Americans on Healthcare Reform: Top 10 Takeaways."
The only way the public option would become a single-payer if private plans can't compete.
hollyhoodjoe123 2 years ago
Um, I know that. But a majority of Americans don't want Obamacare. I don't understand it any more than you do. Those two polls contradict each other. If a qualifying question was "Did you know Obama wants to use the public plan to reach single-payer?" If they asked that first, the number would shrink to 20%.
If the public option undercuts them, which it will, they'll die. Public always kills private because it never has to care about the bottom line.
ObamaWatch1212 2 years ago
Of all the comments, yours hits the mark 100%, in my opinion. And, I agree with it!!!!
scottiswatchingtele 2 years ago
I don't think anyone will be willing to debate actual health with you I'm afraid. From what I see/hear the american ethic enshrines gluttony and it's accompanying economies - of which healtcare is a part, far too much.
6Churches 2 years ago
Good. But it's never too late to roll back the state. We can't change things overnight and promises have already been made but this is key to making Americans take ownership of their own health.
davidg1234 2 years ago
Wasn't medicare and medicaid a total fiasco?
Killing those is probably impossible too.
That's one of the major problems with government programs, they don't die even if they don't work. Instead they grow into tumors. I mean, even if it appears like a good plan for a noble goal, it's almost still not even then worth the risk. :/
Mastikator 2 years ago
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oboy8904life 2 years ago
The right says that so that they don't put more hands on. If you cut off one leg you shouldn't say "oh well, one is off, mind as well cut all my limbs off."
findyourintelligence 2 years ago