I like the old one better. The lack of computers to help the drawing process shows how much effort was put into it. Plus the voice has more soul in the lines. Heh heh soul. Mumra.
I'm reallyn ot a person who likes old stuff cause its older or so, but the style just looks so simplistic to me, like it's meant for very young kids or so. I know it's a kids show, but it's not meant for infants, so the style is way too kiddish for the people who'll be watching it. Thick outlines, no details. Booh!
same shit happened with the " new transformers" everything its bullshit, nothing like 80's cartoons when there was love from the people who was doing anything they were doing
@MrSiesses right, maybe this generations would like it,but us, we've already seen the first one and that's why sometimes we get mad, cuz theyre doing something that we hope that it has to be exactly like the one we saw first,but its coll i mean, everyones think different, adios
To be honest I grew up on the 80's Thundercats I was right there in the thick of it at the time, Swords of omens,awesome toys,thundertanks the lot. And regularly I hate them repackaging our childhood for the new generation, but in this one case they've been very faithful! i'm not a fan of Japanese animation nowadays *remember the old animation was Japanese too, just a different time and style nowadays people want the Manga/Anime whatever* don't care for it myself but at least it's not butchered!
His voice in the 2011 version is a joke compared to Earl Hammond. No one today can match a legend like Hammond, but they at least could have gone with someone whose voice is naturally deeper and more menacing. While subtlety is certainly in his repertoire, Mumm-Ra's persona is very rooted in the "Dark Lord" aspect of villainy; as such, he should not be a high-voiced hisser/rasper, but a deep-voiced growler/roarer.
I don't know, dude. The original is AWESOME....But the new seems to have a not-much powerful voice in the jingle before the transformation, but the transformation lokks more evil!
I'll alway prefer the original because I grew up with it, but the new is simply badass. So happy this generations has a own Thundercats. Now they can have their own memories of a great cartoon just like me.
1985 was scary and sinister. 2011 reminds me of some random anime bad guy with that voice work. I LOVE the new show, but the Mumm-Ra actor really sucks.
It's funny how rose tinted glasses overshadow perception. theyre both fine. 1985 was in it's time, the new one is also reflective of the time we live in. that being said, i think the new one tells a better story, to be honest. the old one always has the nostalgia value though.
@WowbaggerGriffin Are you seriously going to argue that the new Thundercats is better than the old? The original animators and voice actors created something *legendary* within their field, and years ahead of its time. Nowadays, producers of animated programming have computers to assist them at every turn; fuck, they may as well include the computers themselves in the closing credits. You may as well be saying that some autotuned bitch is superior to a classical opera singer.
@scarabmango Hey guy, have you ever considered the fact that they use computers as tools? Like how you use pencil and paper as tools? I think you fail to realize the simple fact that there are still actual flesh and bone people drawing and designing all this stuff, just like the people in those days, but with more advanced equipment. Sorry guy, but we have yet to have a HAL 9000 making our cartoons.
@WowbaggerGriffin The computers are still a crutch. Without them, I'd be very surprised if they could keep up with the people who made Disney's Fantasia, for instance. They didn't have the luxury of changing color schemes with the push of a button or synching dialogue with some program.
@TheJboy88 Mumm-Ra's appearance in the 2011 version isn't quite the same. The primary difference for me, which is the biggest distraction design-wise, is that in the 2011 version, Mumm-Ra actually has lips, which the 1985 version never had, which made him then, look more skeletal, and consequently, more undead-like.
i like the 2011 one a bit better but its not suppose to be the same as the 1985 version. its suppose to be different and not really the same. same story just told different you can say.
if ur gonna remake something, remake it right, flashing graphics does not make something epic, the old mumm ra was serious, the new one looked real impudent
Well I will say this the new Mumm-ra had a more evil sounding voice though in my opinion I liked classic Mumm-ra's transformation better because when the new Mummra-ra transforms he looks like a grey skinned Hulk now some might find that cool but i dont
okay, the old show i couldn't really get behind as a kid, but this new show seems to have caught my interest. not that the old show was bad, it was fine, i just didn't show as much interest back then
I'll have to agree with most people. 1985 is way better. Mumm-Ra sounded way more sinister, and had that special kick to his voice. His laughter was just brilliant. It stood out.
This new one sounds too dull, no kick. Also, the voice actor's work was too generic.
Even if they were to make a live-action movie, I'd choose Earl over this new guy on any given day.
All the later cartoon voice actors are just garbage! no change, no emotion (or over doing it), and they sound "human"... when clearly, some of the characters they're representing were NOT human at all!!! WTF people, get a clue!
For everyone disputing what he says or isnt saying.... in 1985 he says "..... transform this decayed form [ TO ] Mummra etc..." in 2011 he says ".... transform this decayed form [ INTO ] Mummra the everliving..." personally i dont care either way LOL... I LOVE THUNDERCATS!!!! HO!!!
@MrSiesses Ancient spirits of evil transform this decayed form into Mumm-Ra the ever living. Yes i know 2011 puts a bit more into it but they end up saying the same line
@Boslatine I agree they are both awesome, but I think most of these guys aren't complaining about the words used so much as the feel of the scene, and they are very different at that.
1985 Mumm-ra looked and sounded like an evil cartoon character, with the proper amount of cheese. 2011 Mumm-ra looks and sounds more...more real, and menacing and starkly evil.
@wonderman227 Uh...really, there was no need to use an expletive. I understand that we live in a day and time where that's suppose to be cool, but it's not. It's crude. Especially when it's put in a public forum when the company is implicitly mixed. Please be the better person and express yourself in a mature, respectful manner. Thanks.
Oh...and '85 Mumm-ra sounds like a little boy pretending to be a man and overdoing it. :-P
I'll give props to the new one for making Mumm-Ra more badass, but the transformation had more atmosphere in the old one. I still like both the old and new versions of the show though.
2011 Version by far!...don't get me wrong the 80's version was quite epic, but the new one sounds better, has better visuals, and it just all around the best.
I prefer the 1985 version. I say that from an artistic point of view. The music creates a mood for the scene. The 2011 version is kinda...uneventful. No winds blowing, no cool cape/cloak/robe(whatever you wanna call it) blowing, no sight of the surroundings, no music, rushed dialogue, the list goes on. Floating wraps?? The new animatioin style isn't better in my opinion, but just as good in a different way. if anyone knows of a better transformation video please mail me the link to it.
Both transformations are very cool. I am fond of the 1985 one for nostalgic reasons, but I can appreciate the new one as having better animation. I like them both :D
madd871 - i have not seen voltron (new or old) so unlike a lot of people on this forum (present company excepted) I will not comment on what I have not seen.
Narutoman876 - The fact that you have nothing to say other than personal insults shows you have clearly lost the debate. You cannot keep to the subject matter so you rely on putdowns and retorts to try to undermine the credibility of the person putting forward the opposing case.
You are nothing more than an AIDS slide your mum sat on at the last moment.
The one in Between Brothers is much better, but if I had to comp-are these two clips:
The old one has more style & atmosphere. The music, the shots of the statues, the line delivery. Its so theatrical and cool. The new one is just "Purple smoke I"M BIG NOW BITCH!!!"
@DarthSparhawk the old voice has the creepier quality to it. combine the new animation with the old voice and bingo. new voice is too soft and flat for a monster like mumm-ra.
I haven't seen the original series in a while, but Mumm-Ra couldn't transform unless he was in his temple right? I can't remember an episode where he did it outside.
(ctd.) New Mumm-Ra is no substitute for the original IMO, but, then, he probably isn't supposed to be. All of the characters have been re-imagined, after all. I can like both, so I'll wait and see if the new versions eventually grow on me.
BTW, some comments are suggesting that the animators for TC 2011 used Flash. However, the character animation is almost certainly hand-drawn (on dead trees and all), just digitally inked.
Just watched the 2011 premiere last night, and Mumm-Ra was rather underwhelming. Even if the original series eventually turns him into an impotent villain, at his core he is genuinely scary and menacing. The voice, the music, and the animation all work together for his still-great transformation sequence. (And the example in the video isn't even the best instance.)
The old transformation is more dramatic and more scary than the new one. And Lion-O needs to start juicing to bulk up to the original Lion=O. Cheetara is way hotter though
As I am not a writer i cannot say on the strength of the scripts so I will leave that one for scriptwriters to argue over. My area of expertise is audio though and I will dsay it again, the new one (in that aspect at least) is NOWHERE near as good.
I prefere the 80's version, he looks more maniac, insane. In the new version he looks sissy. Too many blah, blah, blah, good special effects but sissy.
"prime513 - the hua huahua laugh was to show a maniacal streak in him..which the new one does not have. The voice on the new one gets worse the more i hear it in comparison to the old one.
It seemed to be and indeed it is! To me the orchestral score just did not kick with me, especially with the voice which has too much reverb. You also heard some laser noises in the 2011 scene. Since when has mumm-ra used lasers to transform? The old skool is better executed and as I learnt at university it is not what you have but how you use it (in reference to music equpipment) that makes the difference.
butchered more like - and i disagree. The new thundercats is symptomatic of a lot of modern reincarnations in that flash is required over substance. The voice and the music are two key areas. Yes the images are sharper and more fluid, but the sound is nowhere near as trepidacious, it feels synthetic instead of genuinely haunting.
I like the old one better. The lack of computers to help the drawing process shows how much effort was put into it. Plus the voice has more soul in the lines. Heh heh soul. Mumra.
noonethatspecial 12 hours ago
I'm liking the original soooooooooooooo much better!
jbzhummerh2gamer 2 days ago
2011 totally skipped the ancestral idols. What's next no Eye of Thundara?
MrColorfield 3 days ago
New one's good...but the old one's better
kairi3177 6 days ago
80s has more energy to it...
ZECTCustomUnit 6 days ago
I'm reallyn ot a person who likes old stuff cause its older or so, but the style just looks so simplistic to me, like it's meant for very young kids or so. I know it's a kids show, but it's not meant for infants, so the style is way too kiddish for the people who'll be watching it. Thick outlines, no details. Booh!
PowerRedBull 1 week ago
same shit happened with the " new transformers" everything its bullshit, nothing like 80's cartoons when there was love from the people who was doing anything they were doing
ironman28yblackox 1 week ago
@ironman28yblackox This show is not worse by any means though. It's very true to the original.
MrSiesses 1 week ago
@MrSiesses right, maybe this generations would like it,but us, we've already seen the first one and that's why sometimes we get mad, cuz theyre doing something that we hope that it has to be exactly like the one we saw first,but its coll i mean, everyones think different, adios
ironman28yblackox 1 week ago
old one is better than the new one.
leewaller3976 1 week ago
I grew up with the original, but after watching the 2011 version, I prefer the new one! :)
teews666 1 week ago
To be honest I grew up on the 80's Thundercats I was right there in the thick of it at the time, Swords of omens,awesome toys,thundertanks the lot. And regularly I hate them repackaging our childhood for the new generation, but in this one case they've been very faithful! i'm not a fan of Japanese animation nowadays *remember the old animation was Japanese too, just a different time and style nowadays people want the Manga/Anime whatever* don't care for it myself but at least it's not butchered!
Lynchology101 1 week ago
estaba mucho mejor la de 1985
ettsaul 1 week ago
His voice in the 2011 version is a joke compared to Earl Hammond. No one today can match a legend like Hammond, but they at least could have gone with someone whose voice is naturally deeper and more menacing. While subtlety is certainly in his repertoire, Mumm-Ra's persona is very rooted in the "Dark Lord" aspect of villainy; as such, he should not be a high-voiced hisser/rasper, but a deep-voiced growler/roarer.
scarabmango 1 week ago
I don't know, dude. The original is AWESOME....But the new seems to have a not-much powerful voice in the jingle before the transformation, but the transformation lokks more evil!
TheMrTSPC 1 week ago
The original has the better voice, but I like the new design of Mumm-Ra's powered-down form more.
STHStuff 2 weeks ago
I'll alway prefer the original because I grew up with it, but the new is simply badass. So happy this generations has a own Thundercats. Now they can have their own memories of a great cartoon just like me.
jrosario022 2 weeks ago
Both Transforming Spots are EPIC !
sharkaner 2 weeks ago
OMG...The new one have wings???
It Sucks...
NotisGR 2 weeks ago
The old one is way better by far
Gordon351975 3 weeks ago
those 4 statues will be forever burned into my memory as the faces of menace.
mookie714 3 weeks ago
1985 was scary and sinister. 2011 reminds me of some random anime bad guy with that voice work. I LOVE the new show, but the Mumm-Ra actor really sucks.
Kregermeister 3 weeks ago
1985 Mumra OWNZ!!! NUFF SAID.
RoyalSatanas 3 weeks ago 2
It's just not the same if he doesn't do the evil laugh.
Nagneto 3 weeks ago
I'm going for the original 1985 transformation. But then again 80's cartoons is what I grew up on.
tamiasthechipmunk 3 weeks ago 6
Once again ... 1985 WINS!!
monstergreen79 3 weeks ago
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It's funny how rose tinted glasses overshadow perception. theyre both fine. 1985 was in it's time, the new one is also reflective of the time we live in. that being said, i think the new one tells a better story, to be honest. the old one always has the nostalgia value though.
MFGreth 4 weeks ago
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MFGreth 4 weeks ago
were could i see the series
alonehades100 4 weeks ago
1985 kills and destroys the new one. fuck the new one. new one don't exist to me.
memorysticky 4 weeks ago
@memorysticky Nostalgia is knocking. Your rent is due.
WowbaggerGriffin 4 weeks ago
@WowbaggerGriffin When nostalgia is better than current crap, I say let the rent be late.
scarabmango 4 weeks ago
@scarabmango Keep telling yourself that. Better not let that pesky rationality catch up with you.
WowbaggerGriffin 3 weeks ago
@WowbaggerGriffin Are you seriously going to argue that the new Thundercats is better than the old? The original animators and voice actors created something *legendary* within their field, and years ahead of its time. Nowadays, producers of animated programming have computers to assist them at every turn; fuck, they may as well include the computers themselves in the closing credits. You may as well be saying that some autotuned bitch is superior to a classical opera singer.
scarabmango 3 weeks ago
@scarabmango Well said.
KitCloudkickerUK 2 weeks ago
@scarabmango Hey guy, have you ever considered the fact that they use computers as tools? Like how you use pencil and paper as tools? I think you fail to realize the simple fact that there are still actual flesh and bone people drawing and designing all this stuff, just like the people in those days, but with more advanced equipment. Sorry guy, but we have yet to have a HAL 9000 making our cartoons.
WowbaggerGriffin 2 weeks ago
@WowbaggerGriffin The computers are still a crutch. Without them, I'd be very surprised if they could keep up with the people who made Disney's Fantasia, for instance. They didn't have the luxury of changing color schemes with the push of a button or synching dialogue with some program.
scarabmango 2 weeks ago
@scarabmango I think there's a huge difference between an ambitious animated film made almost 70 years ago and a cartoon made for weekly broadcast.
WowbaggerGriffin 2 weeks ago
The new series seems to be far more dedicated than many other remakes of classic cartoons to keep the look and feel of the original.
For example, look at the new Mumm-Ra of this show. The same words, the same appearance.
The only reasl difference I can see between the two shows is the quality of the animation and the voice-actors used for the characters.
In terms of the former, the new show wins. In terms of the latter. it's the original.
So I honestly can't decide which is better.
TheJboy88 1 month ago
@TheJboy88 Too bad the speed at which they talk is off. Imagine if you could properly dub over the new transformation with the old voice.
amitamaru 4 weeks ago
@TheJboy88 Mumm-Ra's appearance in the 2011 version isn't quite the same. The primary difference for me, which is the biggest distraction design-wise, is that in the 2011 version, Mumm-Ra actually has lips, which the 1985 version never had, which made him then, look more skeletal, and consequently, more undead-like.
BPrice1A 3 weeks ago
i like the 2011 one a bit better but its not suppose to be the same as the 1985 version. its suppose to be different and not really the same. same story just told different you can say.
darthSasuke11 1 month ago
I like the new one becuase they chagned snarf :) I never liked him
WalterZarl 1 month ago
I like both the new and old. They both have their good points so let's just leave it at that.
P.S. I watched the old series first a long, long time ago and still think the new series is just as good.
777MangaKing7771 1 month ago
if ur gonna remake something, remake it right, flashing graphics does not make something epic, the old mumm ra was serious, the new one looked real impudent
rhamilton914 1 month ago
Well I will say this the new Mumm-ra had a more evil sounding voice though in my opinion I liked classic Mumm-ra's transformation better because when the new Mummra-ra transforms he looks like a grey skinned Hulk now some might find that cool but i dont
drake2023 1 month ago
damn mumm-ra you scary
sonicthehedgehog1985 1 month ago
1980's Mumm-Ra will always be the real Mumm-Ra! A show isn't great just because they use 3D-effects in it (like they do in the new show.)
SkeletorTheMan1 1 month ago
the old mumm ra owns the new sucks with new models
vemu01 1 month ago 4
@vemu01 but the new one looks almost the same T_T
MrSiesses 1 month ago
@MrSiesses Only I think his muscles are a bit bigger than in the original...
tofer17 1 month ago
@MrSiesses no way! they looked so different! the old one is definitely better...oh wait, I was looking through my nostalgia glasses. sorry bout that.
they look similar.
poppotaku 3 weeks ago
they cant even transform the 2011 mumra right..... i knew the new cartoon was gonna suck
labombina3 1 month ago 3
@labombina3 Define "right" as there is no true right way to transform him. Also there is a second transformation which is much much better.
MrSiesses 1 month ago 3
@labombina3 The new cartoon is actually pretty good. panthro is voiced by Michael Clark Duncan. That is awesome.
biguy617 1 month ago
@biguy617 Kevin Michael Richardson voices Panthro in the new series.
Ferocinator 1 month ago
@labombina3
The "right" way of transforming him is however the writers say they want to transform him.
pedrovay2003 1 month ago
okay, the old show i couldn't really get behind as a kid, but this new show seems to have caught my interest. not that the old show was bad, it was fine, i just didn't show as much interest back then
TheSamvadar 1 month ago
The 80s version is pretty lame actually. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with either version.
PSshadow92 1 month ago
LOL MIN 0.26
Chriskit26 1 month ago
lol
Chriskit26 1 month ago
2011 fail!
Merecir 1 month ago
I'll have to agree with most people. 1985 is way better. Mumm-Ra sounded way more sinister, and had that special kick to his voice. His laughter was just brilliant. It stood out.
This new one sounds too dull, no kick. Also, the voice actor's work was too generic.
Even if they were to make a live-action movie, I'd choose Earl over this new guy on any given day.
taxi911 1 month ago
@taxi911
YUP!
All the later cartoon voice actors are just garbage! no change, no emotion (or over doing it), and they sound "human"... when clearly, some of the characters they're representing were NOT human at all!!! WTF people, get a clue!
LightningDemon 1 month ago
prefiero el clasico 85
33mis 1 month ago
1985's Mumm ra looks like King Hippo from the game Punch out on steroids and 2011's looks like the frieken devil him self.
TheMormonSorceress 1 month ago
1985! The voice for the new one is weak.
Heathentribes 1 month ago
1985 is better
alb4600 1 month ago 2
both are better 1985 version did it as a ritual and the 2010 did it as a transformation both of which are great concepts
BrandonVoiceINC 1 month ago
The new one is far more awesome. And the voice is much better too
Chandersson25 1 month ago
oringinal
1080portal 1 month ago
Gotta go with the Orginal. Way better voice acting and sound on it.
Fragminion 2 months ago 12
1985 THE BIG MOST STRONGEST
MasterNyko69 2 months ago 2
85 all the way
typops 2 months ago
1985 rulz!!!!
tribushe 2 months ago
Two words...BAT WINGS!
C'mon what the fuck are they all about?
MrJoystickid 2 months ago
1985 is better
arkangelio 2 months ago
1980's all the way !
MrLacedog 2 months ago
One word.........showmanship!
mourningstar11 2 months ago
check out Mumm-Ra's transformation in 2011 episode 13
I thought it was better than episode 6
DudePooping 2 months ago
1985 is better, the animation show a little more impact and the change of the body.
In 2011 is just about lighting and do not feel like a body change more like 2 different persons on different places.
Armengoldragon 2 months ago
old mumrah is the best..............
ramprashad29 2 months ago
evil spirits, transform this demented form into erm... into...
TrailblazingMedia 2 months ago
1985 ? are you delirious ? 2011 Is The WINNER !!!
ShivzDotzTV 2 months ago
ancient spirit of evil, ruled by the ancient sword, grant me your power, verto...oh wait XD
Astroranagun 2 months ago
1985 is the wins
zilla2006able 2 months ago
For everyone disputing what he says or isnt saying.... in 1985 he says "..... transform this decayed form [ TO ] Mummra etc..." in 2011 he says ".... transform this decayed form [ INTO ] Mummra the everliving..." personally i dont care either way LOL... I LOVE THUNDERCATS!!!! HO!!!
elrasa3 2 months ago 9
@elrasa3 FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS! Kudos bro!
MrSiesses 2 months ago
2011 is just screaming, anyone can do it. If you like the 2011 more, it's mainly for graphics.
1985 has more of an echo, you can tell the voice actor has talent with his vocal cords when he says his line.
Thaylog456 2 months ago
2011 rocks!
Markel1970A 2 months ago
Ancient spirits of evil.. transform this decayed form into Mumm-Ra! The ever-lasting- I mean, the ever-living!!!! XD
anerysium 2 months ago
I can understand if u say the old is better. But to say it's far better is just hating
detroitman21 2 months ago
wow new just sends shivers down my spine i just cant help but prefer the new
und3adars3nal 2 months ago
Hes says the SAME EXACT LINE get over yourselves and stfu THEY ARE BOTH EQUALY AWESOME
Boslatine 2 months ago
@Boslatine Listen again, they dont say the EXACT same thing.
MrSiesses 2 months ago
@MrSiesses Ancient spirits of evil transform this decayed form into Mumm-Ra the ever living. Yes i know 2011 puts a bit more into it but they end up saying the same line
Boslatine 2 months ago
@Boslatine It is NOT the EXACT same line. Listen again and hopefully you will hear the difference.
MrSiesses 2 months ago
@MrSiesses They do say the same thing...
HeavyArmsO5 2 months ago
@HeavyArmsO5 No they dont. There is one thing that is different if you listen closely.
MrSiesses 2 months ago
@MrSiesses
And, what is that difference because I don't hear it at all?
ooOmegaSupremeoo 2 months ago
@ooOmegaSupremeoo In the first one he says "to Mumm-Ra The Ever Living", in the second one he says "into". Not that big of a diff but still...
MrSiesses 2 months ago
@Boslatine I agree they are both awesome, but I think most of these guys aren't complaining about the words used so much as the feel of the scene, and they are very different at that.
0g0dn0 2 days ago
1985 Mumm-ra looked and sounded like an evil cartoon character, with the proper amount of cheese. 2011 Mumm-ra looks and sounds more...more real, and menacing and starkly evil.
christimacc 2 months ago 10
The 1985 Mumm-ra sounds like a MAN! Like he has a pair! The 2011 version sounds like a sneaky fucking pedophile. LMAO!!
wonderman227 3 weeks ago
@wonderman227 Uh...really, there was no need to use an expletive. I understand that we live in a day and time where that's suppose to be cool, but it's not. It's crude. Especially when it's put in a public forum when the company is implicitly mixed. Please be the better person and express yourself in a mature, respectful manner. Thanks.
Oh...and '85 Mumm-ra sounds like a little boy pretending to be a man and overdoing it. :-P
christimacc 3 weeks ago
I'll give props to the new one for making Mumm-Ra more badass, but the transformation had more atmosphere in the old one. I still like both the old and new versions of the show though.
ScarletTsubasa 2 months ago
My favorite villain EVER!!! Mumm-Ra kicked ass. I actually liked it more than Lion-O himself.
Axeltiny 2 months ago
Everything is better in 2011 except Mum-Ra's voice. Dude sounds like a pissed off Medic from Team Fortress.
SoulfulBrutha5805 2 months ago
2011 mumra needs to install a dimmer switch. you cant be creepy in flourescent lighting
geobruf123 2 months ago 2
Gotta give it to the old version, it's just creepier and more dramatic
0xZenx0 2 months ago 2
1985: A more brilliant voice, frightening shouts, sees clearly the transformation, not such an exagerate body.
2011: mediocre voice, off-screen transformation, ¿batwings? please. In addition it is uglier, he has a toad face. T.T
2011 has better animation, but in everything else the original one had more conscientiousness.
I am not a nostalgia tard, only I was sincere...
estu048 2 months ago
Mum-ra gives you wings!
seekertosecrets 2 months ago 2
2011 Version by far!...don't get me wrong the 80's version was quite epic, but the new one sounds better, has better visuals, and it just all around the best.
ApocalypticDeath 2 months ago
2011 by a long-no, REALLY LONG SHOT.
walk1ngkontrad1ction 2 months ago
They are both Epic awesome!
Se7enBeatleofDoom 2 months ago
in the 1985 version he can only transform in his pyramid in the new one he can do it any where
shadic4001 2 months ago
@shadic4001 1980s Mumm-Ra rarely transformed outside of his pyramid.
Ferocinator 1 month ago 2
1985 Mumm-ra wins that one.
101bigleo 2 months ago
Sure, he was transformed into the "ever living", but he is still fugly as ever!
visor109 3 months ago
I prefer the 1985 version. I say that from an artistic point of view. The music creates a mood for the scene. The 2011 version is kinda...uneventful. No winds blowing, no cool cape/cloak/robe(whatever you wanna call it) blowing, no sight of the surroundings, no music, rushed dialogue, the list goes on. Floating wraps?? The new animatioin style isn't better in my opinion, but just as good in a different way. if anyone knows of a better transformation video please mail me the link to it.
KAOSTHEBLAKWOLF 3 months ago
This needs to be redone with the transformation from "Between Brothers." That one pushes my vote to 2011 Mumm-Ra.
psychoreactive 3 months ago
1985 voice with 2011 animation
total win.
chaosbringer127 3 months ago
Both transformations are very cool. I am fond of the 1985 one for nostalgic reasons, but I can appreciate the new one as having better animation. I like them both :D
andoc 3 months ago
@andoc I prefer the better graphics, and deeper voice of the 2011 version.
Lobomaru02 3 months ago
2011
Naioki4 3 months ago
HUAAAAA HUAAAAA HUAAAAAJAJAJAJA
WTF MUMM-RA
Mika15987 3 months ago
old school all the way!
curleybags1 3 months ago
there both equally as good
blueknight10 3 months ago
As always the classics win
SoulXEater3000 3 months ago
@SoulXEater3000 Only because you're nostalgic. In real life, the new show is far superior.
ZipZagginGallifrey 3 months ago
1985 is far better
ronan32 3 months ago 24
madd871 - i have not seen voltron (new or old) so unlike a lot of people on this forum (present company excepted) I will not comment on what I have not seen.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
their gonna go all Falklands war on you
TheAbridgeNetwork 3 months ago
I call 15,000 anti nostalgia soldiers to take out the nostalgia and show which show is better
TheAbridgeNetwork 3 months ago
They haven't butchered Thundercats. I think everyone is a little to overly sensitvie
flashsonic45789 3 months ago
Sorry, I'm too preoccupied with 19, 19, 1985 Woo hoo.
SixtailShadow 3 months ago
@SixtailShadow I see what you did there, Lol!
junkshun626 3 months ago
1985 's Mummra's transformation is the winner. That creepy laugh sometimes used to scared me sometimes. 2011 not so creepy.
Margui622 3 months ago
Narutoman876 - The fact that you have nothing to say other than personal insults shows you have clearly lost the debate. You cannot keep to the subject matter so you rely on putdowns and retorts to try to undermine the credibility of the person putting forward the opposing case.
You are nothing more than an AIDS slide your mum sat on at the last moment.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
Then again, it's not like that user you were talking to doesn't have anything better to do...right ?
filipeflower 3 months ago
@filipeflower What are you talking about?
MrSiesses 3 months ago
The one in Between Brothers is much better, but if I had to comp-are these two clips:
The old one has more style & atmosphere. The music, the shots of the statues, the line delivery. Its so theatrical and cool. The new one is just "Purple smoke I"M BIG NOW BITCH!!!"
NYG4LIFE123 3 months ago
2011 redeemed in "Between Brothers".
RichardX1 3 months ago
OK 2011 HAS WINGS, BUT 1985 WIN .
kame0t 3 months ago
2011
MrPenLab 3 months ago
Definitely the old one. The new one may have better animation but that's all it has going for it.
FoxPlant2006 3 months ago
The new scene is infinitely superior... leave the nostalgia factor and admit it.
DarthSparhawk 3 months ago
@DarthSparhawk the old voice has the creepier quality to it. combine the new animation with the old voice and bingo. new voice is too soft and flat for a monster like mumm-ra.
jpringle1979 3 months ago
@jpringle1979 I disagree. The old voice is the voice of a brute. The new voice is a voice of an evil sorcerer.
DarthSparhawk 3 months ago
I haven't seen the original series in a while, but Mumm-Ra couldn't transform unless he was in his temple right? I can't remember an episode where he did it outside.
some1killmeplease 3 months ago
I feel people making flesh out of this disconcerted standard.
Ingeniousvirtues88 3 months ago
(ctd.) New Mumm-Ra is no substitute for the original IMO, but, then, he probably isn't supposed to be. All of the characters have been re-imagined, after all. I can like both, so I'll wait and see if the new versions eventually grow on me.
BTW, some comments are suggesting that the animators for TC 2011 used Flash. However, the character animation is almost certainly hand-drawn (on dead trees and all), just digitally inked.
Reichu 3 months ago
Just watched the 2011 premiere last night, and Mumm-Ra was rather underwhelming. Even if the original series eventually turns him into an impotent villain, at his core he is genuinely scary and menacing. The voice, the music, and the animation all work together for his still-great transformation sequence. (And the example in the video isn't even the best instance.)
Reichu 3 months ago
well the last episode showed a different transformation it was a little bit more epic
fredfredburger8D 3 months ago
The old transformation is more dramatic and more scary than the new one. And Lion-O needs to start juicing to bulk up to the original Lion=O. Cheetara is way hotter though
CASPIAN91106 3 months ago
As I am not a writer i cannot say on the strength of the scripts so I will leave that one for scriptwriters to argue over. My area of expertise is audio though and I will dsay it again, the new one (in that aspect at least) is NOWHERE near as good.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
Crazy shit
grewntd 3 months ago
both are awesome.
opsimathics 3 months ago
Mumm Ra got a brand new transformation in the last episode it was HOLY CRAP!!!! :O
Muryohken 3 months ago
As much as I love the 2011 version, the original Mumm-Ra transformation is far superior.
atomofish 3 months ago
@atomofish
yes the old transformation was more dramatic with the voice actor
alexlexus 3 months ago
Both of them are good!
Teddytheteddybear 3 months ago
wow they mustve modeled weak mummra from my grandmother!
prime513 3 months ago
I prefere the 80's version, he looks more maniac, insane. In the new version he looks sissy. Too many blah, blah, blah, good special effects but sissy.
grafikko 3 months ago
"prime513 - the hua huahua laugh was to show a maniacal streak in him..which the new one does not have. The voice on the new one gets worse the more i hear it in comparison to the old one.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
i love both versions.
Cobracatcommander 3 months ago
"transform this decayed form in to mumm-ra the ever living HUA HUA HUAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
what the hell is "HUA HUA"? cant believe i used let that pass
prime513 3 months ago
Ok the illustrators must be fans of Twilight. Why does the new Mumm-Ra look like a Vampire?
WhatHuhhh 3 months ago
It seemed to be and indeed it is! To me the orchestral score just did not kick with me, especially with the voice which has too much reverb. You also heard some laser noises in the 2011 scene. Since when has mumm-ra used lasers to transform? The old skool is better executed and as I learnt at university it is not what you have but how you use it (in reference to music equpipment) that makes the difference.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
butchered more like - and i disagree. The new thundercats is symptomatic of a lot of modern reincarnations in that flash is required over substance. The voice and the music are two key areas. Yes the images are sharper and more fluid, but the sound is nowhere near as trepidacious, it feels synthetic instead of genuinely haunting.
jakamneziak 3 months ago
@jakamneziak like the crazy 80s synth and keyboards? Yeah, much more haunting that orchestral scores
Vinny0151 3 months ago
Hipster Mumm-ra fans <.< New one is boss.
mada223 3 months ago
New one blows. Love the show but Earl was the best.
Kregermeister 3 months ago