Elijah Muhammad said Prophet Muhammad was a Devil (White Man)

[WhiteWeasel420]

African doesn't mean Black

[comptonboy118]

LOLOLOL bullshit this video was posted by sum white dude that hates islam

muhhamed could never be white becuz he was born in the saharrah and evry one knows how the sun is in the sahharah so he could never be white becous white people dont get borned in the saharrah the from europe

[RobbertHarris]

@comptonboy118 So Elijah Muhammad was wrong is what you are saying? Because those is own words!

[comptonboy118]

@RobbertHarris look i dont know but the thing i clearly know about him

that he was part african from his mother

even hes best friend was black that he buyed free from slave traders

naw white people or other dumb amerikkkans need to stop making bullshit propoganda against islam never forget about the black north african islamic warriors the moors learn more about them

[michaelyouth]

Poole himself was a devil.

[AMRSBZ]

THE FACTS AND FINDINGS PRESENTED BY OUR BROTHER TRUE ISLAM ARE CREDIBLE. THOUGH WE HONOR HIS PRESENTATIONS, WE ARE NOT BOUND BY HIS CONCLUSIONS, SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT MAY CLASH WITH AN EMPHATIC STATEMENT BY MESSENGER ELIJAH MUHAMMAD WHOM WE ARE BOUND TO UPHOLD.

ACCORDINGLY, IT IS CLEAR FROM THE EVIDENCE AND COMMENTS BY THEM BOTH THAT PROHPET MUHAMMAD WAS A MAN OF WHITE COMPLEXION DWELLING AMONG A BLACK FAMILY AND BLACK NATION OF KUSHITES IN ARABIA.

[resumebwd]

I have put together a three part video detailing the brief life of master fard muhammad. I'm inviting all NOI members and non-members to listen to the information I have gathered. To get the complete presentation, I suggest you listen to all three videos.

google youtube "WallaceDFard_1.wmv"

[BroAlifSr]

Bro. Robert I would love to speak with you regarding this. However it is the Month of Ramadan forbthose who follow the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad., and we are not to argue or quarrel during this month. I can see from you recent comments that you and I wont see eye to eye. Therefore i will contact you January 1st. You have my word. May allah keep you well brother.  As-Salaam-Alaikum

[RobbertHarris]

@BroAlifSr I hope the best for you during the month of Ramadan and I hope that you are experiencing extreme peace... But do follow up with me January... If though we might not see eye to eye... At least we will have a full understanding on each others position...

[BroAlifSr]

just because he was a member of the black nation does not mean that he was a blackman.. I am a blackman and i am also a Legal United States Citizen which means you can call me a member of a white nation..... The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was the Messenger of Allah and everyone is not gonna accept his teachings as all prophets and messengers of god has had opposers of the truth... so shall the Messenger Elijah Muhammad will have opposition

[RobbertHarris]

@BroAlifSr with all due respect brother, if that makes sense to you then please leave your name/number in my inbox and let us reason together on this very subject... I cannot believe that it became a time that I have to beg a NOI member to talk to me concerning their teachings... Most of you avoid a dialogue at all cost... What were you hounding Christians for when Islam was rising in the west? The Christians did not want to reason because they knew they had nothing... Is it so?

[BroAlifSr]

what page is this written in the message to the blackman.... there is no chapter 51

[abyss1ner]

no resumebwd i am challenged by my inner circle because the the truth hurts. though they bear witness to the most honerable Elijah Muhammads teachings. Robert harris has all Elijah's ministers in his favorites but he hates honerable elijah muhumad. i dont want to talk to hypocrisy such as that.thats the truth. why call Robert h.he kows the truth but denies it like many in my iner circle.

[resumebwd]

I consider myself an authority on the history of Wallace Fard Muhammad, founder of the Nation of Islam. If you would like to know anything about him, I am the man to consult.

[AMRSBZ]

@resumebwd ARE YOU NOI? WHAT MAKES YOU AN AUTHORITY? AND HOW DO YOU INSULT A BROTHER AS TAKING A COWARD'S POSITION FOR NOT PUBLICLY ENGAGING THIS EGOTISTICAL IDIOTIC MALCONTENT? THAT BROTHER IS UNDER NO COMPUNCTURE TO CAST JEWELS AT SWINE, OR ENTER AN ARENA WITH A LION WITH NO SWORD. THE NATION HAS LOTS OF REPRESENTATIVES TO DEFEND THE SAVIOUR, AND NEEDS NO ONE TO CONSULT WITH AN ADVERSARY ABOUT HE WHOM YOU REFER TO AS "THE FOUNDER"

[resumebwd]

@AMRSBZ What makes me an authority is the fact that I have done extensive research on this so-called “SAVIOUR”, and have discovered that Master Fard Muhammad was nothing more than a fake and a fraud. During the 1920s and 1930s there were countless poor immigrants from around the world but mostly from the Far East claiming to be so-called “saviors” who preyed on gullible blacks. The Detroit Police Dept. labeled them “fakirs”, a muslim term which means “to live by begging”.

[AMRSBZ]

@resumebwd THAT'S YOUR CHOICE TO BELIEVE THE LABELS OF THE DETROIT POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS FOR ME, I PREFER TO BELIEVE THE MESSAGE OF THE NATION IF ISLAM! SUCH DISPARAGING REMARKS MAY BE ENOUGH TO COVINCE AND CONVERT YOU INTO AN ADVESARY TO THE NATION OF ISLAM DOCTRINES, BUT NOT ME. FOR ME TO DISCARD AND DISMISS THE HISTORY OF YAKUB AS A FAIRYTALE DUE TO RIDICULE WOULD BE LIKE SAMSON SHAVING OFF ONE OF THE LOCKS OF HIS OWN HAIR ON ADVICE OF THE PHILISTINES.

[resumebwd]

Sounds like this guy "abyss1ner" is fearful of the truth "Robert Harris" will bring to him. So he takes a coward's position and says he only needs to speak to those in his immediate circle. In other words, those who won't challenge him.

[RobbertHarris]

@resumebwd They know better... Wait until I upload a debate with a coward who admitted on RECORD that I was OUT OF HIS LEAGUE lol

[abyss1ner]

i dont consider The Most Elijah Muhumad a prophet. and i know he was a messenger sent for black people to wake us out of the grave of igorance of white people here who used christanity,not jesus teachings but christanity to make us slaves. Master Fard muhamad god in person came to us, not the creator of heaven and earth but god in the person of a man to reveal god Allahs teachings to us.

[RobbertHarris]

@abyss1ner Elijah Muhammad was no more of a messenger than Marcus Garvey, Noble Drew Ali, Booker T. Washington, Father Hurley, Daddy grace etc.... If you would like to discuss further than I suggest that you leave your name/number...

[abyss1ner]

@RobbertHarris i dont want to discuss that topic because i know the works of T.H.E.M he was and is a messenger,though he is gone his teachings are still here and relevant. wheres your solution? you dont have one. T.H.E.M does though

[RobbertHarris]

@abyss1ner I do have a solution FYI... Now leave your name/number and let's talk like men!

[abyss1ner]

@RobbertHarris we can speak online, i only really need to speak to my nation, my young son and his mother and those in my immediate circle. you speak to yours and give them what T.H.E.Muhamad taught you and what ever else you think you made up new which has already been done.

[RobbertHarris]

@abyss1ner that is a cowardly action on your part... There is no way I can properly express my point or articulate in the manner I would like to by TYPING...

[AMRSBZ]

@abyss1ner BROTHER, YOU ARE SO RIGHT AND SO WISE TO KNOW THAT OUR MOST HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD WAS NO PROPHET, AND I AM SO GLAD HE WAS N'T. HE WAS A GOD WHO ASSUMED THE RANK, POSITION AND WORK OF MESSENGER. THE OFFICE OF PROPHET WAS HELD BY THE SPIRITUAL GUIDES DURING THE REIGN OF YAKUB, THE FIRST PROPHET OF THE WHITE RACE. ALL OF THE PROPHETS CONCEALED THE TRUTH OF GOD AND THE DEVIL UNDER SYMBOLISM, BUT ALLAH REVEALED THE TRUTH TO THE MESSNEGER, AND NOW THE JINN AND MEN ARE ANGRY.

[resumebwd]

@AMRSBZ That Yakub mess was nothing but a "fairy-tale". And I think you are too old for fairytales. This con-man named Wallace Fard wih over 58 different aliases told many fairytales. This is 2011 not 1930. Information is literally at your fingertips. You would do yourself a great service if you did a little research.

[abyss1ner]

its not the color of white people its the mind of most, if not all white people. T.H.E.M told his people all white people were devils because its like searchin for a needle in a haystack. one kind word and we would think you were good, but we see who YOU are devil.you want to try and tell our babies our brother was not right,but all along its you devil who is not right,thank god he taught us to see you.now go to another video of THEM and try again.cointelpro tactic just like ur daddy.needed that

[Piercedpixie56]

So, if he thought Muhammad (peace be upon him) was white and therefore the devil, why does he insist on stealing the name of Islam? Because our prophet PEFECTED our religion. The Qur'an was given to him by revelations, why would Allah subhana wa ta ala give revelations to a devil?

None of it makes any sense. Nation of Islam is misguided, Elijah Muhammad is a liar and crazy man. Azubullah!

[RobbertHarris]

@Piercedpixie56 exactly and great point!

[MrSubmissiveWill]

@Piercedpixie56 The Honorable Elijah Muhammad never said Prophet Muhammad was a devil. He stated that he was white and through him Allah gave the world the Holy Quran. He further stated in Message to the Black Man page 95 paragraph 3: "The Holy Quran, is holy because it is the Word of Allah speaking Himself directly to His servant..." He also stated that evil is a bad name after faith. Please, pick the book up rather than letting a man named "Robbert Harris" put disunity among Muslims.

[Piercedpixie56]

@MrSubmissiveWill: Prophet Muhammad was Arab. I am a Caucasian Muslim, I dont want to read any book based on a sect that discriminates against something as shallow as SKIN COLOR. MUHAMMAD sallalhu alayhi wa selam is my prophet, and our final prophet.

[MrSubmissiveWill]

@Piercedpixie56 No one is discriminating on the basis of skin color in the Nation of Islam. That's why I said pick up the book. I love and we love our Muslim Communities regardless to what they call themselves. I respect any Muslim of any color more than a disbelieving Black Man. I just merely tried to point out that we have as much respect for Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as any of our brothers in the east.

[Piercedpixie56]

@MrSubmissiveWill: So I can just walk into a Masjid which follows NoI and it will be okay?

[MrSubmissiveWill]

@Piercedpixie56 Yes you can, and you wouldn't be the first. We have meetings open to the general public, and some that are not.

[abyss1ner]

@Piercedpixie56 Lol you thought you were going to discredit The Most Honerable Elijah Muhumad. Nothing he ever said was correct is that right? its only indicitive of your nature to try this. The example you gave after the snipet of T.H.E.M saying prophet muhumad was white is talking about weather Master Fard Muhumad was white, which he was half, like barack Obama. then you put the brother on last to bear witness to THEM. we know he was white, he was the 1 out of the thousand who was holy........

[Piercedpixie56]

@abyss1ner: i dont fully understand your comment, like who is "T.H.E.M"? All I know is Muhammad was an Arab and I follow him as the last prophet of Islaam.

And what do you mean "my nature"?

[abyss1ner]

@Piercedpixie56 yea ok im not going to play stupid with you on The Honerable elijah Muhumad. muhumad was an arab and a prophet peace be apon him. T.H.E.M was a messenger, theres one sent to every nation, read your koran. god Allah sent a messenger to us blacks here

[Piercedpixie56]

@abyss1ner: Yes he sent one to every nation. But dont you consider Elijah Muhammad a prophet? Prophet Muhammad salalahu alayhi wa selam made it clear there would be no prophets after him. And dont say "read your Koran" I read my Qur'an and dont nation of Islam followers read THE SAME QUR'AN?

[resumebwd]

Usually people with low self esteem, from broken families, not very well educated, criminals, drug addicts, prostitutes or someone who is looking for anybody to accept them as they are, fall victim to cult movements such as the NOI or any of its “off-shoots”. That said, it’s still no excuse in 2011 for grown men and women who have all their thinking and reasoning abilities (unless they are retarded) to allow themselves to become victims of such “ridiculous nonsense”.

[JusBeCuzz]

@resumebwd

That is who these teachings are for, the mentally sick people. The people who need their brain washed clean. The people who think they are "normal" and live a "normal" american life are the dead who do not accept themselves as being dead.

[resumebwd]

@JusBeCuzz

Sounds like you are describing yourself perfectly.

[kedarptahel]

there is alot of hidden history suppressed in islamic/muhammaden culture that most people in the U.S. are never privledged too...

[RobbertHarris]

@kedarptahel now saying that, do you stand behind the teachings of Elijah Muhammad

[kedarptahel]

@RobbertHarris inso much as they agree with what is historical and factually sound in this day and time..I revere the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad as exactly how he described himself which was as the rasool/messenger of Allah. I have no doubts about his relationship to The Most High and the Ancestors. However i do not believe he conveyed a complete message to Nuwbian people in this country but what he did bring to the table of evolutionary thought inspired us to reconnect with our divinity !

[exposemyfoes]

@kedarptahel elijah mohammed is burning in hell right now

[RobbertHarris]

@kedarptahel I want you to watch my vid series on "was Elijah ideologies original" before you credit him so fast...

[kedarptahel]

..when the pure seed Muhammad was killed from eating a poisonous laced meal prepared from his wife whom he took as booty in a Hebrew/Jewish raid, the other imposter Muhammad came to power and thats when they began burning the ORIGINAL QURAN"S which is why to this day no muslim scholar or otherwise can ever produce and authentic version of the Holy Quran in Quraysh dialect ??..

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[exposemyfoes]

@kedarptahel malcolm x had u fools figured out,leave this sick racist cult

[kedarptahel]

Yes The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was/is right on both accounts..because there were 2 historical Muhammad's in history...one from the pure seed of Kedar from Ishmael from Abraham...and the other Muhammad was a pale seed nicknamed 'Musylimat" they existed simultanously and Musylimat was vying with the real Muhammad for leadership