B-2 Lifter Wing with Dielectric Insert

[DocWolph]

I'm of the opinion that this is an ion jet engine. Something not far removed from STAR TREK's impulse drive or the a TIE fighter in STAR WARS. However, that too has it's pluses. No moving parts, little or no noise, would be relatively inexpensive to build, in space a small amount of ionized propellant can take a vehicle quite far. I am fascinated.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Ion-wind is far too weak a force to eaven cause movement, and there ia n upper-physical limit to ion-thrust. But this Biefeld-Brown effect is non-linear, and force is exponetial with increasing Voltage, adn there is NO limit to the force.

[Beamshipcaptain]

The only reason this works so well, on so little input electrical-energy is SEPARATION of charge. That is why higher K-factor and higher MASS dielectrics typically produce the most force in these devices, and typically also in Vacuum, as in Hector Serrano's patented ELECTRIC ROCKET.

[freethisone]

more orange wires and more pointy connections on the front of the wing to the thin wire will increase its power..

[amazula]

stfu

[freethisone]

One factor of importantance, I wish to share with you.

The function of a ioniser, the actual needle that makes the ions. this is specially designed as a very sharp needle like points, these very sharp points will increase the flow of current from the dialectric, to the thin wire, in other words, use very sharp conducting needles, conducting points to connect the fine wire to the dialectric, or the skirt. They have the potential to flow a infinate number of volts.

[Beamshipcaptain]

That's OK if you are configuring it as a weak-thrust ION-drive, where corona and leakage is desired. But the Biefeld-Brown effec has NO limit to thrust or acceleration, and depends on STORAGE and RETENTION of charge, not leakage of charge. Notice that this devices uses a SOLID dielectric, as Serrano, and HONDA (1996), Yokohama, Japan,and Campbell (2001-NASA).

[freethisone]

the dielectric acts only as a way to separate charge. current flows between the dielectric, and the wire on the outer portion of the craft.

therefore the faster current can flow the less chance of electrical equilibrium between the manifold and thruster. Get it?

[Beamshipcaptain]

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Iv'e studied the Biefeld-Brown effec, and works, since 1986, and have a body of published works, and the largest VTOL and other Biefeld-Brown craft in the world, since 1999.

[freethisone]

so explain it to me better, my information is documented by Tesla, and james clerk maxwell.

in his original works. i would like you version of the operation between the crafts dielectric, and the thin wire were in a lifter.

[freethisone]

as you know in a lifter, the foil has a greater surface for electricity to flow over, and a thin wire that come in communication to the larger manifold, the saucer, Brown separated the wire between the saucer with very sharp needles i seen the patent too.. as long as electrical equilibrium is not reached the voltage stays very high, just like you said, thats why its important to have good flow of current..

[Beamshipcaptain]

A "leaky dielectric" like styrofoam works well...

[JonDavidson]

@Beamshipcaptain , well where is it, Mr. electrostatic physics expert? Why don't you show your "largest VTOL in the world since 1999?" Since you have a "body of published works", what the hell are you looking at silly videos by amateurs on YouTube??? (note the three question marks; they denote intensity of sarcams).

[Beamshipcaptain]

@JonDavidson My videos are on Youtube. I built a 9-foot diameter flying saucer that I am still working on, for Team Searl, at TeslaTech2010 in Albuquerque New Mexico.

[freethisone]

in the video see frame 102 see the very thin wire in front of the flying wing? the orange wire, now look at the yellow wire, both come in contact with the solid dielectric, but the foil also contact the foam. current is flowing between them. making a difference in voltages in the wing itself. keeping the wing out of electrical equilibrium. please explain what you see..

[frank26080115]

what does this mean? are you saying you replaced the air in between with a solid non conductive material?

[Beamshipcaptain]

Exactly.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Good on ya, cobber! Solid-state dielectrics are the way to go, and will work with low-power, EVEN IN VACUUM. The stars beckon...