New Order live, 1987, 'Dreams Never End'

[charlie123abc360]

Hook is my hero. Love how the cure completely blagged this for inbetween days

[Lieu3C4]

Having sought for a perfecter performance of DNE to Favourite, looks like this be it: by 1987, the singer has become confident enough of public response &/or himself to but strongly sing it, diffident neither nor subdued below musicianshipping.

[rtmmunki]

Good job on the editing, love the commentry though :D

[astralislux]

I didn't realize that Hooky sang this song. But this is a typical NO concert: off-pitch singing. Love them anyhow!

[juanky8]

i love so much the fact that this song that is the first one on the first new order album is not sang by the singer of the band...

[ghostscantkill]

This is great maaaaannnn! I love Hooky!

Cheers Mate~

[maultiermaster]

1:50 - 1:57, the visualized perfection

[HumanJarv]

FUCKING YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOKYYYYYYYYYYYY.

[webster670]

6 string bass!!!

[brajtnerinjo]

wow, Hooks vocal performance is brutal

[abagail4me]

Go Hooky! Saw ya live a couple of months ago in my town.Go Moriss-keep smashing up that drum kit,you do it perfectly.Go Gill -you're gorgeous and a great musician who covers up the gaps.And Bernard is in there doing his bit.Awesome performance - this track from the " Movement" album should have been a single IMHO but it never happened.

[gabriel94220]

The stratocaster changes everything. It sounds here like a rock song. I thought Barney used to play with a Gibson, SG or ES-330. Very different from the NYC 1981 version indeed.

[lagowski]

Shergold 6 string bass!

[Procopius1980]

I've love how Bernard adds a hammer on (correct term?) to his guitar intro. I don't know why, but I think it adds just the perfect addition to one of my favorite songs of all time!

[JonOssett]

Must agree they never more looked liked a band than in this era..

NO Forever Wherever.

[BigFatSissy]

Jesus, the intro timing is dreadful...but what a song!

[abagail4me]

I totally agree with Belzondium's comments,this could well be the Order at their peak.

[facelvega67]

big !!! geant !!!!! vive new order!!!!!!!

[karziflora]

Hooky Cookie we Love U!!!

[JODQ11]

Hooky should sing Ceremony..

[wadetshaw]

Brilliant version of a grossly underated track. Love it when Hooky nails it at 2:02. Does anyone pound the drum kit like Steve Morris?

[ady10001]

Stephen and Gillian are the most under rated musicians in history

[belzondium]

this is unquestionably one of the best live rock performances, ever.

[belzondium]

this version is ferocious. check 1:58

[abagail4me]

Just as awesome as their 1981 performance in NY(wish I'd been old enough to be there)....a fucking classic track.And to hell with the knockers who say they slowed it down...that just isn't true.

[yubipubi]

fucking A

[jogger1976]

I think Robert Smith may have listened to this once or twice!!!!!!!!

[journeythruthepast]

Sounds like a lot of Cure stuff. I've always found the intro to this very similar to "In-Between Days," but not quite a copy. Though this tune was a much peppier sounding group than Joy Division, most of Movement I actually find darker and creepier than JD. The lack of punk guitar and emphasis on synthesizers and sequencers must be the difference because even songs like "Heart and Soul" or "Day of the Lords" don't sound as black or out-there as "Truth," "The Him" or "Doubts Even Here."

[theidealcopy]

@journeythruthepast yeh the Cure ripped em off, this came out 81, in between days 85

[glenaan]

Awe great performance, this is fantastic, is it from a dvd or tv broadcast?? Did hooky sing this on the album?? anyway cheers for posting this!!!!

[adz1962]

Cheers.

I'm pretty sure that Hooky has always sung Dreams Never End, including the album version.

[AIFL]

Yes he did. They were still trying to work out who would be the singer so they all had a go. None of them could play and sing at the same time so they had to arrange the songs accordingly, to magnificent effect!!

[beforethree]

@adz1962 he did, .

[apejens44]

Absolutely fucking great!

[britdude1961]

Think peter hook sounds alright here,would like to hear him on other N-O and joy div songs.--peace off--

[nihilnoise]

"Hook has also contributed backing vocals on numerous Joy Division songs, sings co-lead with Ian Curtis on Joy Division's "Interzone" from the 1979 LP Unknown Pleasures, and sings lead on two New Order songs ("Dreams Never End" and "Doubts Even Here" from the 1981 LP Movement)."

from wiki

[LIL2511]

Actually, now that I think about, I may be thinking of another song...

[adz1962]

Maybe your thinking of Leave Me Alone - they haven't played that since 1987, which is a great shame since it's one of New Order's best IMO.

[LIL2511]

This may be the last performance of the song. I'm pretty sure the last time it was played was in 1987, and the band were unhappy with it, so they stopped playing it.

[altroval]

Not a good version of this song. They've slowed it down quite a bit here, particularly at the beginning...it sounds almost turgid.

The NYC performance in 1981 (also on YouTube) is better.

And I really like this song.

[inspiralcarpets13]

i listen to NYC performance and i like it more but this one is also nice

[mariog15]

Is that the face of ian Curtis on Hooky's shirt?

[tomcbh]

Cool how the first song on New Order's first album was sung by Peter, while Bernard was the main singer...

[firehorsecancer]

love this song to deaht....fond memories of my Audio Network parties

[altroval]

Well...

After Ian's death Hooky, Morris, and Bernard all tried singing. Bernard eventually got the role.

Curiously, both Hooky and Morris had done backing values on several Joy Division songs before - but Bernard had not.

Honestly, I don't know why Bernard got the call. His voice is thin and it lacks confidence. Occasionally he goes beyond being off-key...

I think Hooky, as he demonstrates here, can give a more compelling vocal performance.

[stellaviolens]

Quite a different take with PH singing. it's one of NO's best songs from the early 80's but gets forgotten in the post Blue Monday haze.

[StyleSessions]

He always sung it dickhead

[stellaviolens]

As in different view of the group with Hook as the lead singer. I thought the days of angsty little NO fans  with their pedantic comments were over. Or did you come late to the cause ezelsgat ?

[StyleSessions]

er so me saying Hooky always sang it is pedantic?

Its fuckin obvious. Now get off youtube and back to your shed 7 albums.

Twat.

[stellaviolens]

Obviously you dont know what you're talking about you sad angry little parvenu  so I won't keep you from going down the park and looking at the children you lust after.

[StyleSessions]

hehe nice ritorte, people who cant debate the subject and have to resort to childish insults are not worth my precious time.

[stellaviolens]

Precious time indeed , sitting on the pc with your wheelchairrusted with wee. I don't know why I bothered in the first place to rise to a comment that was intended to provoke not inform. Other readers , Internet trolls , it's something we should all avoid.

[tomcbh]

Morris was thought to be the main contender apparently.

[COwens]

Fantastic song.

So good the Cure stole it for In Between Days.

[orkenbjorken]

i guess dreams really do end.. never say never :( RIP NEW ORDER!!

[1stofthegangtodie]

it's Peter Hook on vocals, Bernard Sumner is still shy back those days to fill in the place of Ian

[kikecoxon]

Sounds Like JD, but this is one of NO. In the record looks like Ian but it's Bernard or Hooke i dont know?

[asdras1]

hooky sings awful but with sucha great feeling!!! jajaja cheers!! joy division and new order last forever!!

[iammusic]

I love this video and i love this song since the moment I heard it, first track off Movement.

But for those of you who are saying this is a JD track please, get your information right, this is off New Orders first album. First track.

[curtq]

all this new order playing jd bashing sucks, ian curtis was great, but i mean the rest of the band was still behind the heartbeat of jd, and to go on after without ian and form/accomplish something like new order is amazing, until you fucking dregs of judgmental retards can do something like that then shut the fuck up, and i dont mind new order playing JD becos' thats how they tribute ian and i think its beauty full

[Procopius1980]

That New Order could make a JDish album like Movement leads me to believe the guys had a fair hand in the song writing during Ian's days. BTW, to my knowledge, only Ceremony and In a Lonely Place were JD songs that NO recorded. I have never heard a recording of JD playing DNE.

[nihilnoise]

actually, Ian just wrote the lyrics, Bernard mostly composed the songs, as well as the Steve and Hooky, but most Bernard. Ian would listen to the music and choose lyrics to match it.

yep Ceremony and I.A.L.P. are both JD songs. JD recorded a raw version of I.A.L.P. which in the heart and soul box set i think, the only two Ceremony recordings live and a demo, the vocals are were stuffed up on both which ruined the only recordings of Ceremony by JD

[journeythruthepast]

In that respect, Ian is seen as the embodiment of Joy Division even if he wasn't the dominant force some claim him to be. His death resulted in a confused time for the band but they pulled out of it and how! Movement isn't my least fave NO album (probably Republic or Waiting for the Sirens Call are below it) cause it has distinct charms. Its main problem is the songwriting takes a backseat to the sounds. Only this tune, "Chosen Time" and "Truth" move me. The rest are like gothic synth demos.

[journeythruthepast]

But Ian deserves credit in that without him, NO never could touch the commanding frontman role or the lyricist role, even though Bernie filled in capably. Much of Movement is unfocused though their singles were improving. Before the dance beats, "Ceremony" and "Procession" were still first rate cuts. But it wouldn't be until "Blue Monday" and onward that NO could create masterpieces like they had done in Ian's final months (LWTUA, Atmosphere in particular although most of Closer is genius too).

[shiner8]

this is great! hooky aint too bad a singer, but by 1987 martin hannet was gone and so was new order as we new them, still my favourite band :)

[hannasdeli]

This is brilliant!!!! totally brilliant!!! One of their best songs and they are just enjoying it!

[ersatz01]

i like this version best - the academy edit with the hooky interview in the middle just ruins the song.

[adz1962]

Cheers, it wasn't easy editting out the Hooky interview bits.

[bru1976]

tempo problems, flanger detuned and a voice from outwhere : that's hooky for sure. thx adz..

[raverill]

Nice. This is one of my favourite songs of theirs.. They should've given Hooky more songs to sing, maybe!

[nicck]

hmm but dont you think hes a bit crap live?

[pkbarbiedoll]

no less crappy than Bernard screaming OOOHhh YEAAAaaaahh during LWTUA.

[nicck]

..true lol i think new order covers of joy division songs are a bit crap though

[emersonrbrito]

cool!