I was asked to view this, although I am not with the JWs. I can only say that if God in Jesus means that Jesus is God then Jesus in all the followers of Jesus would mean that all of the followers of Jesus are God. The believers are to become one in God and Jesus; does this mean that God and Jesus are also the believers? Does the spirit of God in the believers mean that the believers are also the spirit of God? - Jhn 14:17,20; 15:4,7; 17:21; Ro 8:9-11; 1 Cor 6:19; Col 1:27; 1 Jhn 2:24; 4:4....
@reslight pls read 1 peter 1:11 and acts 16:6,7 and romans 8 compared to galatians 4:6 ALL of which testify that JESUS` Spirit IS the Spirit of YHWH. when God`s Spirit left Jesus He DIED so God`s own Spirit animated Jesus the Son of man to life.believers don`t only recieve the Spirit of God in the Holy Spirit bt also recieve the Spirit of Jesus.This is how Jesus and the Father r the SAME God!
that is y Jesus ALSO answers PRAYERS and y He ALSO reserected HIMSELF and is ALSO the ALPHA and OMEGA!
So what of the many manuscripts that ommit "me" like Codex Alexandrius(5th century); Bezae Codices, Greek and Latin(5th and 6th centuries) and the Old Latin Versions(2nd to 4th century.)
What translation would be in agreement with John 15:16 and 16:23?
@Josiahvidz WHAT R U GOING ON ABOUT?????? i read from the nwt and not once did i mention the word ME. Jesus said in jn 14:13 And I WILL DO whatever you ask in my name... do u understand what I WILL DO means? It means JESUS will answer our prayers.
the way ur thinking is clear evidence of how the wts has PROGRAMMED you to fillter out anything that contradicts their ERRONEOUS teachings.
jn15:16 says God answers prayer jn 14:13 and 14 says JESUS ANSWERS PRAYERS so pls explain WHY?
@arnie365 The word translated "I WILL DO" is ποιέω and it also means to be "The cause"(to cause, bring about). So if you read the context in vs 12 which continues on into vs 13 Jesus is speaking about "exersizing faith" in him. We cannot approach Jehovah unless it is through Jesus Christ. When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states, and on the merits of Jesus ransom sacrifice our prayers are answered. This is how Jesus "Will DO" it.
@Josiahvidz firstly do u even understand what u r writting? u say The word translated "I WILL DO" is ποιέω. It also means to be "The cause"(to cause, bring about).
that means JESUS is answering or causing or bringing about our prayer. I ASKED WHY DOES JESUS DO WHAT ONLY YHWH IS SUPPOSED TO DO?
SECONDLY u say When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states. vs 13 DOES NOT SAY in connection with.did`nt u watch this video?
@arnie365 It is not even possible to approach the father unless it is through Jesus Christ on the basis of his ransom sacrifice. So it is "Cause" of Jesus our prayers are even heard and he "brought about" the oportunity for our prayers to be answered.
If you even studied Greek for 5 seconds you would know that there is no word for word translation into English. The word "conncection" is simply helping to bring the true meaning out. Every single translation out there uses these tactics.
@Josiahvidz u r not addressing the QUESTION! y is JESUS ANSWERING the PRAYER? i`ve explained it now u explain it with ur MAN MADE doctrine.
The word "conncection" is simply helping to bring the true meaning out. Every single translation out there uses these tactics.
hahahahaha the true meaning hey. if the word connection brings out the true meaning y is it that ONLY the UNQUALIFIED translators of the wts put that word in that verse? how come not even one other translation adds that word ?
@arnie365~ "u r not addressing the QUESTION! y is JESUS ANSWERING the PRAYER?"
I did answer here. I said Jesus is not saying he answers prayers here he is saying that prayers get answered because of him and his sacrifice. So if you want your prayers to be heard pray in his name.
@Josiahvidz ahhh .. not quiet! u r reading the verse thru the mind control glasses of the wts. the verse says 13AndI WILL DOwhatever you ask in my name,..
AND VS 14 SAYS
14You may ask anything in my name, and I WILL DO IT!!!!!!
WHO will do it? JESUS!!!!!!!!!!
He says IN MY NAME and I WILL DO IT. u can`t deny the obvious claim here without running the risk of looking igonrant
@arnie365 Actually Jesus said, "You may ask ME for anything in my name, and I will do it". JN 14:14 (NIV)
I looked up the interlinear and the pronoun for me is there. I like the way it is structured in the Greek interlinear. " If anything you ask Me in the name of Me, I will do"
@Josiahvidz and what about 1 pr 1:11 y did they take out the word christ? the wts is DECIEVING U? the wts is full of ERROR the bible is`nt. i would rather believe in the bible that the foolish erroneous MEN of the wts.
@arnie365 ~ "and what about 1 pr 1:11 y did they take out the word christ?"
"They kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of [season] the spirit in them was indicating concerning CHRIST when it was bearing witness beforehand about the sufferings for CHRIST". (1 Pet 1:11) NWT
@Josiahvidz this is y ppl say jw`s r mind controlled.their minds r PROGRAMMED to filter out information contrary to the god of jw`s ie the wts. this video proves without a doubt that the wts is MISTRANSLATING jn 14:13 yet u still say to me When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states.
the verse reads the Father is glorified IN,IN,IN the Son. there is NOOOOO in connection with in that verse in the greek.
@Josiahvidz can`t u understand my question? i am asking WHY Jesus in jn 14:13 is doing what God should be doing? can u explain that?
it is not contradicting my video if u understand what i`m trying to prove. jn 15:16 and 16:23 say the Father will answer the prayers BUT jn 14:13 says JESUS answers them WHY?
what did Jesus say in jn 14:10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
so God the Father is IN Jesus that is WHY Jesus can answer prayers
@Josiahvidz jn 14:13 says 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified i IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN the Son.
THAT IS Y THE WTS HAD TO MISTRANSLATE THIS VERSE. IT SHOWS THAT JESUS` SPIRIT IS YHWH`S SPIRIT as does 1 pt 1:11 which the wts ALSO mistranslates to hide this truth.The Spirit that allowed Jesus to live was actually the Spirit of YHWH. that is y when Jesus said "...why have u forsaken me" and YHWH`S spirit left Jesus DIED.
@Josiahvidz :In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"
It's always a good idea to try and get hold of a Kingdom Greek Interlinear, if discussing with JWs. If you can't get one (I got one on ebay), you can always go onto biblos.com, where you can see the same Greek text, with English transliteration, that the New World Translation Comittee used. (If indeed, they really did use the original texts at all, that is)
Defendingyhwh has always had a difficult time dealing with facts although I didn't know he has been removing comments. Thank you for exposing that side of him.
It sure looks like defendingYHWH is trying to hide something. He also deleted some of my posts on his channel.
Intersting inconsistency you observed there arnie.Intresting how they added the words in and how they changed it .Good observation : ) Keep it up my brother.
Please keep DefendingYHWH in your prayerful petitions unto Christ Jesus. I pray he comes out of darkness unto the truth our Lord God of glory; God and Saviour Jesus Christ (Acts7:2; 1Co2:7-8; Tts3:4).
1Jn5:13-15"...the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in HIM, that, if we ask any thing according to HIS will, HE hears us: And if we know that HE hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of HIM."
WHY????? CAN HE HOLD THE CAMERA STILL??? SO YOU CANT REED THE GREEK AND ENGELS>
2563tj 5 months ago
@2563tj listen if u want to insalt someone and make them look ridiculous LEARN HOW TO SPELL READ AND ENGLISH or else u end up looking like a TWIT :-)
arnie365 5 months ago
@MCO4Help Yeah the [ ? ] kinda get a little old...lol
1914watcher 1 year ago
@MCO4Help
I would like to buy a real nice translation, do you have a recommendation? I have had the same translation for about 30 years..lol
1914watcher 1 year ago
I was asked to view this, although I am not with the JWs. I can only say that if God in Jesus means that Jesus is God then Jesus in all the followers of Jesus would mean that all of the followers of Jesus are God. The believers are to become one in God and Jesus; does this mean that God and Jesus are also the believers? Does the spirit of God in the believers mean that the believers are also the spirit of God? - Jhn 14:17,20; 15:4,7; 17:21; Ro 8:9-11; 1 Cor 6:19; Col 1:27; 1 Jhn 2:24; 4:4....
reslight 1 year ago
@reslight pls read 1 peter 1:11 and acts 16:6,7 and romans 8 compared to galatians 4:6 ALL of which testify that JESUS` Spirit IS the Spirit of YHWH. when God`s Spirit left Jesus He DIED so God`s own Spirit animated Jesus the Son of man to life.believers don`t only recieve the Spirit of God in the Holy Spirit bt also recieve the Spirit of Jesus.This is how Jesus and the Father r the SAME God!
that is y Jesus ALSO answers PRAYERS and y He ALSO reserected HIMSELF and is ALSO the ALPHA and OMEGA!
arnie365 1 year ago
So what of the many manuscripts that ommit "me" like Codex Alexandrius(5th century); Bezae Codices, Greek and Latin(5th and 6th centuries) and the Old Latin Versions(2nd to 4th century.)
What translation would be in agreement with John 15:16 and 16:23?
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz WHAT R U GOING ON ABOUT?????? i read from the nwt and not once did i mention the word ME. Jesus said in jn 14:13 And I WILL DO whatever you ask in my name... do u understand what I WILL DO means? It means JESUS will answer our prayers.
the way ur thinking is clear evidence of how the wts has PROGRAMMED you to fillter out anything that contradicts their ERRONEOUS teachings.
jn15:16 says God answers prayer jn 14:13 and 14 says JESUS ANSWERS PRAYERS so pls explain WHY?
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365 The word translated "I WILL DO" is ποιέω and it also means to be "The cause"(to cause, bring about). So if you read the context in vs 12 which continues on into vs 13 Jesus is speaking about "exersizing faith" in him. We cannot approach Jehovah unless it is through Jesus Christ. When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states, and on the merits of Jesus ransom sacrifice our prayers are answered. This is how Jesus "Will DO" it.
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
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Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz firstly do u even understand what u r writting? u say The word translated "I WILL DO" is ποιέω. It also means to be "The cause"(to cause, bring about).
that means JESUS is answering or causing or bringing about our prayer. I ASKED WHY DOES JESUS DO WHAT ONLY YHWH IS SUPPOSED TO DO?
SECONDLY u say When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states. vs 13 DOES NOT SAY in connection with.did`nt u watch this video?
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365 It is not even possible to approach the father unless it is through Jesus Christ on the basis of his ransom sacrifice. So it is "Cause" of Jesus our prayers are even heard and he "brought about" the oportunity for our prayers to be answered.
If you even studied Greek for 5 seconds you would know that there is no word for word translation into English. The word "conncection" is simply helping to bring the true meaning out. Every single translation out there uses these tactics.
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz u r not addressing the QUESTION! y is JESUS ANSWERING the PRAYER? i`ve explained it now u explain it with ur MAN MADE doctrine.
The word "conncection" is simply helping to bring the true meaning out. Every single translation out there uses these tactics.
hahahahaha the true meaning hey. if the word connection brings out the true meaning y is it that ONLY the UNQUALIFIED translators of the wts put that word in that verse? how come not even one other translation adds that word ?
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365~ "u r not addressing the QUESTION! y is JESUS ANSWERING the PRAYER?"
I did answer here. I said Jesus is not saying he answers prayers here he is saying that prayers get answered because of him and his sacrifice. So if you want your prayers to be heard pray in his name.
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz ahhh .. not quiet! u r reading the verse thru the mind control glasses of the wts. the verse says 13AndI WILL DOwhatever you ask in my name,..
AND VS 14 SAYS
14You may ask anything in my name, and I WILL DO IT!!!!!!
WHO will do it? JESUS!!!!!!!!!!
He says IN MY NAME and I WILL DO IT. u can`t deny the obvious claim here without running the risk of looking igonrant
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365 Actually Jesus said, "You may ask ME for anything in my name, and I will do it". JN 14:14 (NIV)
I looked up the interlinear and the pronoun for me is there. I like the way it is structured in the Greek interlinear. " If anything you ask Me in the name of Me, I will do"
Pray to Jesus and He will answer your prayer.
JAT002 1 year ago
@JAT002 i agree with u.INFACT even in the wts OWN kingom interlinear it has the pronoun ME.
arnie365 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz and what about 1 pr 1:11 y did they take out the word christ? the wts is DECIEVING U? the wts is full of ERROR the bible is`nt. i would rather believe in the bible that the foolish erroneous MEN of the wts.
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365 ~ "and what about 1 pr 1:11 y did they take out the word christ?"
"They kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of [season] the spirit in them was indicating concerning CHRIST when it was bearing witness beforehand about the sufferings for CHRIST". (1 Pet 1:11) NWT
Is this the scripture you are talking about?
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz Is this the scripture you are talking about?
yip that`s the one.WHY is the word CHRIST in " ...what sort of [season] the spirit (OF CHRIST SHOULD BE HERE,Y IS IT OMITTED?) in them was ..."
arnie365 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz this is y ppl say jw`s r mind controlled.their minds r PROGRAMMED to filter out information contrary to the god of jw`s ie the wts. this video proves without a doubt that the wts is MISTRANSLATING jn 14:13 yet u still say to me When we approach God in Jesus name we gorify the Father in connection with the son as vs 13 states.
the verse reads the Father is glorified IN,IN,IN the Son. there is NOOOOO in connection with in that verse in the greek.
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365 So please explain why John 15:16 and 16:23 contradicts your video here and seem to agree with me.
"whatever you ask of the Father in My name HE MAY GIVE IT TO YOU."
(John 15:16)
Also John 16:23
"In that day you will not question Me about anything....
if you ASK THE FATHER for anything in My name, HE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU."
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz can`t u understand my question? i am asking WHY Jesus in jn 14:13 is doing what God should be doing? can u explain that?
it is not contradicting my video if u understand what i`m trying to prove. jn 15:16 and 16:23 say the Father will answer the prayers BUT jn 14:13 says JESUS answers them WHY?
what did Jesus say in jn 14:10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
so God the Father is IN Jesus that is WHY Jesus can answer prayers
to be cont
arnie365 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz jn 14:13 says 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified i IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN,IN the Son.
THAT IS Y THE WTS HAD TO MISTRANSLATE THIS VERSE. IT SHOWS THAT JESUS` SPIRIT IS YHWH`S SPIRIT as does 1 pt 1:11 which the wts ALSO mistranslates to hide this truth.The Spirit that allowed Jesus to live was actually the Spirit of YHWH. that is y when Jesus said "...why have u forsaken me" and YHWH`S spirit left Jesus DIED.
arnie365 1 year ago
@arnie365~ IT SHOWS THAT JESUS` SPIRIT IS YHWH`S SPIRIT
(Luke 23:46) And Jesus called with a loud voice and said: “Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” When he had said this, he expired.
Josiahvidz 1 year ago
@Josiahvidz :In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"
He then DIED cos the Spirit of God LEFT HIM!
arnie365 1 year ago
It's always a good idea to try and get hold of a Kingdom Greek Interlinear, if discussing with JWs. If you can't get one (I got one on ebay), you can always go onto biblos.com, where you can see the same Greek text, with English transliteration, that the New World Translation Comittee used. (If indeed, they really did use the original texts at all, that is)
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
Defendingyhwh has always had a difficult time dealing with facts although I didn't know he has been removing comments. Thank you for exposing that side of him.
21crosscheck21 1 year ago
It sure looks like defendingYHWH is trying to hide something. He also deleted some of my posts on his channel.
Intersting inconsistency you observed there arnie.Intresting how they added the words in and how they changed it .Good observation : ) Keep it up my brother.
12JESUSisGODalmighty 1 year ago
(((arnie))), our KING of glory be with you.
Please keep DefendingYHWH in your prayerful petitions unto Christ Jesus. I pray he comes out of darkness unto the truth our Lord God of glory; God and Saviour Jesus Christ (Acts7:2; 1Co2:7-8; Tts3:4).
1Jn5:13-15"...the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in HIM, that, if we ask any thing according to HIS will, HE hears us: And if we know that HE hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of HIM."
barbsinclair 1 year ago