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  • Yea.... Ipod touch..... DROP IT FUCKING ON THE GODAMN GROUND AND IT BREAKS! FUCK THAT SHIT! I GOT AND SONY ERIC AND I DROPPED IT ON THE GROUND LIKE A MILLION TIMES AND IT HASNT EVEN A SCRATCH!

  • Playing music on a phone sux the battery dies quicker :(

  • How good are sony walkmans? My 8gb one is dying cause it keeps shutting off and random times and to turn it back on takes way longer then it should. So are the 16gb sony mp3 players good? Cause i might need one soon

  • Watching this video makes me think that CNET gets paid to advertise the junk they're pushing by these companies. Personally, I'm an audiophile....if I buy an MP3 player, it will be to listen to my music with the highest of quality and richness. Looking at this list by CNET made me laugh. Obviously they're advertising for the mentioned product companies... all the advertising you see means nothing.... do yourself a favor and buy a COWON MP3 player... and THEN watch this video again for laughs. :)

  • audio quality???????

  • iPod is the best mp3 player ??? :-)))))))))))))) Really funy...but now seriously. iPod is maybe the best looking mp3 player with nice display but its sounds really mediocre to be the best mp3 player. All Cowon mp3 players are far better than iPods if we´re talking about sound quality.

  • Alright well a QUESTION for people out there. Whats the BEST quality touch music player out? One that has a little something called BASS which the ipod lacks some. I don't care for apps or videos, just high quality music.

  • @FRr3AkOnALEaSh that really depends on what headphone you have.

  • @FRr3AkOnALEaSh Go with COWON... trust me, I did my research for weeks years ago when I first bought my Cowon D2 (which is now obsolete but still in great working condition). The newer Cowon mp3 players are more advanced now... my old Cowon still blows away the crummy iPOD. Cowon MP3s are very customizable in sound quality and long battery life. I would recommend the Cowon J3 right now.... if anything happens to my D2, the J3 will be my target buy for sure.

  • Figures that CNET has an apple bias. If it isn't apple then you're nobody. Apple products are overrated and the CNET editors are playing into the illusion that more apps means a better device.

  • I think the samsung galaxy S wifi 5.0/4.0 should stand on that number one place. It's just so much better then all those others. Only the iTouch can give it a little bit of competition.

  • I won't get an iPod based on the fact that i can get an MP3 player that's just as good for $50. And when did MP3 players become more about apps than, you know, MP3s?

  • @Celticelery the moment they became marketed as phones.like samsung and zune.infact a new zune is called windows phone now

  • The iPod Nano 5th Gen was so good! It was my first iPod and I loved it. If I ever find the person who stole it out of my car, I'll cut off his balls, Her boobs if its a women.

  • BEFORE PRESSING PLAY

    "i swear if an apple device is no.1....."

  • lemme guess, apple wins

  • cowon D3 is the best every body take a loock it haves more than the ipod

  • great now I have to fin @JoelB5783

  • IMO, cowon j3 is the best and it has 39band equalizers... pretty amazing

  • Cowon J3 should have won. Best Sound Quality (5 Band EQ), BBE+, AMOLED screen, Expandable memory, Drag and Drop transfer and customizable OS. But hey I didn't buy an MP3 for the music I bought it for the Apps. 

  • For me top requirements for an MP3 player. 1:BOOKMARK FEATURE 2:GREAT SOUND QUALITY 3:GOOD STORAGE SIZE 4:GOOD VOLUME....Thats it I dont need games videos or cameras just the basics.

  • watch

    cowonj3[dot]com

  • You said best MP3 player! A good MP3 player should have good sound quality, MP3's aren't for games, wi-fi and apps dumbass. The Cowon J3 should have won hands down!

  • It's an MP3 Player! Who cares if it has WiFi, a fucking touch screen or an app store!?

    You see, I'm one of those old fashion style guys who want's a durable player with lots of room, good sound and an EQ. Do any of you even know what EQ is or does!?

  • great, i have to search for joelb3783's comment

  • @AdamSavage88 thats funny i've had my first gen ipod touch since it came out and it still works great and is surprisingly fast, its really not very big, my itunes never crashes on my thinkpad, also i dropped it in water and nothing is wrong with it so its very durable, clearly you have never owned an ipod (oh and it's 200 dollars just like your zune hd) And good luck playing with your 5 different apps, because it doesn't make you cool just because you dont buy apple products.

  • Creatives and Sonys have some of the best sound quality around hands down, but other features are a bit lackluster at times.

    Zunes also offer very good sound quality, and their UI can't be beat. Despite all the Zune bashing, they're great devices!

    iPods have that "cool" factor, pretty nice hardware and a good UI. However, they do rank pretty low in the sound quality department, but if you're not an audiophile, a decent choice.

    Of course, headphones are MUCH more important for SQ.

  • pedometer ><

  • DONT BUY THE ECLIPSE!!

  • no Cowon? they forgot to mention a VIP place holder ;)

  • say what you want to the ipod touch . I bet that the haters here just can't afford the ipod touch or already have the zune hd just found out about it and ur just defending urself well if you think that apple sucks so bad , why won't you just shut up and try making an ipod or a mp3 player urself ?

  • Thumbs up if you saw this video just to see if the iPod touch wasn't #1? Lol

  • I like my Walkman

  • Keep it old school and go for the walkman.. Best sound quality possible.. Go for the x series or S series... Or if you want it all, wait for the walkman mobile entertainment player.

  • @AdamSavage88 You forgot the one about how you like to deal with Apples shitty employees who have you on hold for 30 minutes just so they can tell you to go to their website and fill out a fucking form that no one will respond to CAUSE THEY FUCKING SUCK DONKEY DICKS!!

  • Slightly used? ew...

  • best meaning overall features, no you need to be more detailed then the word best if you are not into giving a misunderstood rating of the product, you must take into account the individual features' quality, such as audio, camera resolution, ect......sometimes i wonder if bid companies like to give money to various big rating companies so they will possibly overcredit it, naaaaaa that could never happen

  • Samsung P3 should be on here.

  • 100 people have the zune lmfao

  • loling @ the face the 2 most thumbs upped coments are @ me. I don't have a zune or an iPod. Ive used both, sound quality is exactly the same. iPod has more apps, Zune is sexier!

  • @JoelB3783 zune has better sound quality bro.

  • @MysteriousStealthMan No it doesn't. I have used one.

  • @JoelB3783 cool story bro. but apparently everyone agrees zune has better sound quality. :P

  • this was shit

  • dang it im outa characters

  • being a zune as well as an ipod touch user, i would definetly say go for the ipod. Thats what i think OTHER people would prefer. I personally prefer the Zune HD. Better service, faster, still has apps (though i dont really use them), HD radio, and it is cheaper for 16 gig. Its worth the money and it will last. But a lot of people are unfamiliar with the zune players and HD itself. Go for the ZUNE!!!! The problem now is that there are many new apple products coming out so we need more zune!!

  • There's a difference from being a fanboy and have an opinion. Just because they like the iPod doesn't make them fanboys.

  • Ipod touch is good for mobile game. I didn't think it has a taste mp3 music. I think Cowon & Walkman should won.

  • Zunes and ipods don't have sd slots ! What the fuck ? For the price, that's bullshit. Wi-fi with ipod touch- so what ,you can't even get on youtube b/c it doesn't support flash which a majority of websites use so you're fucked. My sansa clip plus 8gb can hold an additional 32gb. The price for 40gb (8gb player AND 32 card) mp3 player with GREAT sound quality, and convenient non-bulky clip feature is only about $95 dollars. Sansa wins. Besides, who wants to watch vids on a 2 or 3 inch screen ???

  • @1misanthropist dude you can go on youtube on a itouch it has a dedicated app for that

  • Cowon should be there. also my cowon screen cracked from inside which is bs. i sent it to cowon to get it fixed and they said i need to throw another 100 bucks to get fixed. ah fuk na. fuk cowon but still kicks ipods ass.

  • @XLeonhart1982 I have a really though choice! So should I get for christmas iPod touch or xbox 360 s 250 gib? Sorry for my English! :)

  • @halofan676 XBOX 360 WITH THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM!!!!!!!!!

  • sansa good enough for me

  • screw ipods and apples. Cowons are ruling the mp3 world

  • Are you freakin kidding me? Wow, this list lost all validity once they annouced the I touch as the winner. Sure it may look shiny with dusted light coating of tech-sexy, but in what universe does that have anyhting to do with the music experience itself? Ipod touch only wins because of it's excessive additonal accessories, so I guess in that sense it's a valid victory. Real music enthusiast don't buy sonically inferior Ipod touchs.

  • lol why apple ipod touch ?

    its about the quality of the music on the mp3 player ...

    not about shitty touchscreen and fuckin apps

  • @tomo0086 Well I have phone and have enough with the Nokia X3-02! I just need a new MP3 player! My old mp3 layer is glitching, because it is broken! :(

  • @halofan676 Nokia phones are great (I got a C6-01, and a 5530 after it). But, for a music player, I still use my IPod Touch (1G, 16Gb), even if I carry 2 devices with me all the time (phone & IPod, don't have cash for an IPhone).

  • Someone tell me should I get an ipod touch, because my new player witch is chinese version sux dick balls! I breaks really fast! So witch mp3 player should I get for christmas? And I have already a new phone Nokia X3-02 witch is a good phone! :)

  • @halofan676 iPod Touch is a definite. It's just as good if not better than a phone. If you want the best phone on the planet mixed in with the best MP3 player on the planet then go with the iPhone 4S. I'm getting that on 28th October when it comes out in my country. I have the iPod Touch 3 and got so much use out of it. The iPod Touch 4 is out now and would recommend the 32GB or 64GB versions.

  • lol who uses a zune?

  • @JoelB3783 people who bought a zune.

  • @TriumphantLoser im getting me one they look sweet

  • @JoelB3783 People who want to get the best sound quality out of their portable music players, who don't care for apps. =)

  • @ArcadeRobotOnFire all that can be fixed with an amp lol.

  • @JoelB3783 people who know what a good music player.

  • its obvious that the ipod would be number 1,i mean its so much more than just a mp3...its a mini computer AND a gaming device,you cant beat that

  • ipod touch is more to a media player .

  • Did I hear "ka-ching!!!" in the cnet cash register?

  • ipod touch is number one? what about the sound quality ?? no single band EQ no BBE

    Cowon Jetaudio is #1

  • This must be the new kind of the computer chronicle tech show.

  • Thumbs up if you love your Zune HD

  • @NefariousBanana I would love to say that, but we can't get any Zune HD here in canada D:

  • @BrokkenArt I got mine from ebay

  • FUCKING COWON

  • SONY WALKMAN SHOULD BE FIRST!!!WALKMAN FTW!

  • I cant get the vlc app for the ipod 3gen. Is there any other good app i can get. The one that comes with the ipod has almost no features.

  • CNet is out of touch with reality. "The day of the MP3 player is dead.." bull. Not everyone is in love with the smart phone trend and the MP3 player is the go to guy for music. They like to think they are predicting the future, but they're a joke. The mp3 player began with the Walkman in the form of cassette tape players and NEVER became obsolete. People will always want a mobile music platform. Not everyone wants to bog their phone down with music/apps/movies/net/etc...

  • My iPod Touch only became usable after I jailbroke it. And sound quality still sucks compared to my brother's Walkman.

  • fuck u it should be sony walkman .... ipod touch 1st omg what a shit video we are looking for mp3 player and portable

  • in the description it says mp3 payer its suppose to be player

  • And where is cowon...?

  • @av399 thats what i was thinking im getting the feeling Cnet has no idea what its talking about, sansa clip 4th?

    and the fact ipod was on there TWICE is amazing.

    Hey CNet the video is called Which is the best MP3 player not which is the most popular.

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  • @AwesomeCoasters best be trollin...

    IPods=shitty popular brand that everyone gets because its just so fucking cool...

  • @NDBNTZ

    Tell us about it instead of trying to sound cool and out of the bunch. Tell us why you think IPods suck. For my part, I think people buy iPods because

    1. they are designed beautifully, much more understated, unique and cool than 99% of its competing MP3 players, not to mention their tiny size and/or weight.

    2. they function in a really smooth, clean, simple, elegant way and have pionneered the UI and the way we control them, twice

    3. they have great features, plain and simple.

  • @AwesomeCoasters no ipods are boring and theres surely better designed mp3s

  • @AwesomeCoasters

    The design..... is a rectangle that you touch....

    Yes a swipe side to side is simple, and if any other company thought of it first it would be simple for their brand.... its side to side, not revolutionary....

    Do i really have to say anything about the features? There are none..... apps are not features, they're fillers because Apple couldn't throw in good features like an hd tuner, open source system, flash enabled browser, not limited to itunes, customization, etc.

  • @J911F927K3253

    There's a bit of truth in that, but there's also some things you intentionally left out, so let's forget it.

  • @AwesomeCoasters

    True. I did run out of space in the comments box.

    The ipod is a great device none the less but it could be better.

  • 87%

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  • ipod nano is not better then zune HD

  • WT FWTF WTF, Sony X Series is still in 2011 classed as one the greatest and best sounding MP3/4 players around. Fucking apple fan boys annoy me, clearly know nothing about audio

  • wanna play game and fun apps go for ipod, want SQ, video and battery life go for sony. case solved. and btw both brand are over-prised.

    for those who say spending the $ for sony only for music is not worth, well i say people buy apple's earphone at 4x my earpiece's price.

    and for those deaf people who cant get the difference between ipod and sony or zune, all u need is a non-branded mp3 which cost abt $20

  • SANSA MP3 PLAYERS HAS BETTER SOUND QUALITY THAN IPOD..S

  • the ipods are supposed to be in the top five ipods!nub.

  • I don't understand the idea that if you care about music you would NOT care about quality... Can you elaborate on that idea? I would think the idea would be that if you care about music, you wouldn't care about a device having cameras and internet access. In any case it's all personal. I like being able to watch a movie while waiting ( say... the DMV).

  • @TheSilentScreamer21 The Zune HD Starts at 179$, The most popular model is the one thats around 229$.

    For 229$ you can buy a device that has allot more features.

    And if you don't care about internet access, photos, videos and games and you only care about the music then why buy the Zune HD, you're defeating the purpose of what you're looking, a simple Mp3 player.

  • Creative Zens have great sound quality compared to iPods. i have an iPod touch now since my Creative Zen Vision M got stolen, i thought iPod was better than my Zen but some of the detail of a song is missing in iPod which is present in Zen. I recommend Creative Zen over iPod based on sound quality and player's life.

  • Who gives a fuck about the sound difference between the Apple products and Sony, Sandisk?

    If you really appreciate music you would NOT care about the sound quality!

    And the iPod Touch is the best Mp3/Mp4 player because its does more then just play music!

    You can go on the internet, play games, take photos ect...

  • @EarForceTutorials If you appreciate music you SHOULD care about the music. You just argued against your own point. the ipod does not do anything for music but more for its extras nto for it purpose MUSIC

  • @giritnbabu I said if you appreciated music, you shouldn't care that much about that small gain of sound quality from any other MP3/MP4 player.

    And yes it does do "something" for music, the iPod allows you to lyrics to the screen, it allows you to add various cover art and you can add your own playlist straight form the iPod.

  • @EarForceTutorials I BOUGHT A MUSIC PLAYER, I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PICTURES AND VIDEOS. ALMOST ALL PHONES CAN DO THAT. BUT CAMERAS AND VIDEO RECORDERS ARE STILL POPULAR BECAUSE THEY DO THE JOB BETTER. if you cared about music you would not care about quality? wtf dumbass?

  • @cakelover33 So you bought a 200$ MP3 just to listen to music when you could of got a simple old iPod Nano, or a Sandisk? And you gotta start paying more attention to what people say. I said

    "Who gives a fuck about the sound difference between the Apple products and Sony, Sandisk?

    If you really appreciate music you would NOT care about the sound quality!"

    Meaning that sound quality is not everything, and the sound quality difference between the iPod and the Zune is so small anyway...

  • @EarForceTutorials I didnt buy an ipod because i hate itunes and i love the zune interface and i hate sony, and btw if you appreciate music you would care about quality! that does not even make sense, appreciate music by not careing about quality? WTF

  • @cakelover33 For the last time, i said the SOUND quality.

    The sound quality between the iPod and Zune are so mini-mall i din't notice the difference until i saw a comment talking about it.

    And if you would really care about the music that you listen to, you try to understand what the song is saying. You would not care about that small sound quality difference.

  • @EarForceTutorials small my ass if you cared about music you would notice it

  • @cakelover33 I am done arguing with your dumbass.

    I care about music, its almost all i do, when i go to the gym, i listen to music, when i'm at home i am listening to music.

    Don't tell me i don't care about music, its my passion.

    And again, when the sound quality difference is so low (In my opinion) between the iPod and Zune.

    It does not make a difference.

  • @EarForceTutorials ooooo so now i am a dumbass eh? i got news for you, everyone listens to music when they work out, and at home. that does not make you passionate about music. and sound quality IS noticeable to me and it does make a difference, i have owned an ipod and used itunes.

  • wtf ? apple trashplayers simply sound like shit after listening to a sony walkman.

  • Anyone could suggest an mp3 player i could use while riding my bike. I really despise Itunes... dont mind the actual ipod but the itunes pisses me off so much! I want to be able to access it like a usb. thanks

  • For people who go to the gym, anything bigger than a Sansa Clip or iPod Shuffle is out of the question. So if that would be one of the conditions for being a useful tool in it's one right beside the smartphones, why did you put two MP4(!)-players in this list that are equally less practical as a smartphone?

  • @MeatLoafFCOL Hey mate you seem like you can help me maybe. I am looking for an mp3 player like the shuffle, that can hold 1000 songs and it can't have a screen because I want to use it at a gym. I would get the clip but my brother has it and I want to be different, so any suggestions would be great,

    Thankyou.

  • @kooldaug As far as I know, the Creative Zen Stone Plus is a great product when working out in the gym. It has a display that is similar with that of the Sansa Clip, a lower pricetag than the Shuffle and the solid quality of the Creative brand.

    Hope that helps ;-)

  • Dammit. I wanted the best MP3 player, not the best shepherd.

  • ipod.HD camera,HD sounds,good apps,can play blu ray files,music player,wide radius flashlight,portable,works with all headphones,wireless HDD space,data transfer,and voice recognition software?fuck zune

  • apple ipod is shit compared to the zune hd 

  • What is recommended for not so much music but videos. Ipod not being considered, too expensive. We like the creative zen m from 2006 but want something new. Suggestions welcome!

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  • cnet applefanbois

    fuck you

  • @TRoN1Ck I totaly agree.

  • @MultiPcExpert

    thank you!

  • the apple ipad touch 3rd gen hmm havent seen one of those

  • I want that Teac Reel to reel!

  • I want the creative zen touch 2

  • Oh my god I have an iPod touch but mine is the fourth generation.

  • the ipod classic is the best, it has the best battery life

  • Quick Question:

    Why does what type of screen it has matter when it's storage space and SOUND QUALITY that matters in a fucking MP3 PLAYER!

  • @Elsoddo i agree 100%, its sound quality, storage, battery life, and size are that all counts. Everything else is extra and doesn't add the MP3 ELEMENTS. Sure it makes it fun to play with and counts towards how much you will be entertained with stuff OTHER than mainly music, but it still doesn't add to the "HOW CAN I IMPROVE PLAYING MUSIC ON THIS THING" Category -_-

    Good to see someone else using their head :D

  • apple number one? LOL

  • Estan bien pendejos, el SONY es el mejor en Audio.

  • Mp3 player is main purpose is to play music not play games

  • LOL @ 1 no.

  • You people argue over sound quality, iPod touch has good sound quality and zune can only boast about sound, but they cant handle a retina display or iTunes, iTunes is the best and most organized with it all

  • are there any good mp3's that can hold videos too?

  • i'll get the sansa

  • zune is better with music... but touch is good with apps...

  • if you are in for sound i say the zune but for most people they would go for the ipod touch.

  • Itunes is for clowns who like wasting money on MP3 files, 1 buck for a pixel file yeah no big deal, but let's say your a music freak and you want a few hundred songs, like come on, huge waste of money. I easily get 30 songs a day downloaded from internet sites. Then again if your buying a few songs a week, then no big deal. And CNET is exaggerates MP3's nobody has even ever heard of, like wtf is Zune, and a Sandisk? What a joke.

  • @SilentReezy you mean you never heard of zune......

  • @kazora1001 I could come up with a lot of things you've never heard of.

  • @SilentReezy You know you don't need to use iTunes to acquire your music

    All the music on my iPod came from another MP3 player or was gotten for free in some way or another, not a single penny spent

  • newsflash guys. everything deystroys apples sound quality. because all they focus on is creating new apps. not making their players better

  • @appleguy1227 IPOD TOUCH IS AWSOME!!!!!!!! nano sucks zune should have been in 2nd I HAVE BOTH AN IPOD TOUCH AND ZUNE HD AND MICROSOFT HAS BETTER MUSIC QUALITY!!!!!!

  • @joshsco0t4 i really agree with you, although i dont have a zune. im more social, and i want some good games for when im bored so its more like a smartphone mp3 player....only its not an iphone lol

  • This shit is sponsored by Apple. Fuck this Ipod fanboy and CNET.

  • I think you switched up the Sansa Clip and the iPod touch.

  • x walkman should be first, fucking cnet

    Thumb up if you watch it in 2011

  • Lol no doubt Apple is in the lead

    its the best in the market so far!

  • why the fuk do u need itunes?

  • I would put Ipod in the end...

  • Sponsored by Apple :(

  • APPLE....When will people learn...

  • ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN ME??? THE NUMBER 1 IS IPOD TOUCH??? WHAT ARE YOU DEAF???????

    THE FIRST IS SONY X SERIES WALKMAN THE BEST SQ EVER

    THE SECOND IS ZUNE HD

    AND IPOD IS ON THE LAST BECOUSE THE SQ SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX

    i have the itouch is good for games

    the zune is perfect for EVERYTHING

    and the x series walkman is PERFECT FOR PERFECT MUSIC

    period please thumbs up if you agree lol

  • @lostintimeline lolol shut up audiophile

  • @lostintimeline And this is why Tom Merritt got fired :)

  • @lostintimeline How does it suck. Shut up fanboy u dont have an itouch therfore ur mad u cant afford it and hate it like a fag

  • @SuicidePlague18 i own an

    IPHONE 4

    IPOD TOUCH 4

    MICROSOFT ZUNE HD

    SONY S545

    SONY X SERIES

    well yup i think i have the itouch and i know about sq more than you so you sound a fagot apple fan boy who got a shit have a nice day idiot

  • @lostintimeline Ok... Easy to lie on the internet but... How does the ipod touch suck? Everything in it is superior to a Sony X Piece of shit. It beats it in.. Design..Apps..Online music libraries... Internet surfing..Screen Display. Just everything

  • @SuicidePlague18 ipod touch doesnt suck in any way its more of a multimedia device focus on its pdas capabiliies like gamin internet apps email and camera

    the sony x series and other sony products focus mostly on the SOUND QUALITY and they are also good for watchin videos music videos thanks to the oled screen .

    so in terms of sound quality the sony should be on the top as the best walkman AND I Say waLKMAN NOT PDA

    like i said i own a ipod 2 so i dont think it sux other wise i wouldnt buyit

  • @SuicidePlague18 AND SORRY I DONT LIE I CAN INVITE YOU TO COME TO MY HOUSE AND SHOW YOU MY STUFF looooooooooool

  • @SuicidePlague18 Haha gay apple fags think. iPods are always the best XD

  • @tag12171 How are they not?? Give me an example

  • @SuicidePlague18 They are overpriced and the SQ sucks XD

  • @tag12171 Their overpriced for a reason. Its rly thin. Retina Display.Memory storage. Fast internet. Im gonna stop there i just dont have the time to point out everything about it. Its just a fantastic device

  • @SuicidePlague18 As an MP3 player XD Memory storage, fast internet WTF. I want some of whatever you're smoking because, must be really good if it makes you say that.

  • @tag12171 U mad bro?

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  • @SuicidePlague18 YeS I Am SirR. NomNNommNoMM XD

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  • It's not a review of the best MP3 players. It's a review of the best gadgets. You can't put an iPod number 1 in this category. There's no doubting the iPod's greatness but compared to other MP3! players on the market it's way down the list. It's got relatively poor sound quality and poor battery life.

  • i like how all the people without an ipod touch complain about the speaker quality hahahahaha no one listens to music threw speakers thats the point!

  • I don't know why iPods cost so much. I've got a Sansa Fuze and its quality PWNS the iPod, yet all of Apples products are significantly overpriced...