How sad that Columbus and other European conquerers ruined the New World Paradise by murdering and enslaving the indigenous Native American peoples, instead of reuniting with them as beloved brothers and sisters! If only the European peoples had the humility to learn from the spiritual wisdom of the Native American peoples and thereby blend the best elements of both cultures....! Now, in the magical year 2012, is the time to restore the intended paradise of love on a higher level than before...
@AttackTheGasStation1 :Why say such a thing?Such a broad statement.How do you know who forgot? And who did not forget? Many are aware of History,some enjoy reading and studying about it.Others like to pick their nose's,these are the "Ones" to whom you speak,I take it.
An outrage to the truth, give the name of Amerigo Vespucci to the continent discovered by another Italian Cristoforo Colombo. Vespucci was a journalist, Colombo a great and courageous navigator who, thanks to its sponsors the King of Spain, has been able to achieve this great enterprise.
@feurzauber * San Salvador,an Island is what he,Columbus discovered.Then went home.Vespucci discovered the Mainland,he was headed for South America,totally missed it,and hit North America.He signed his map,on the bottom right.When the Map Maker made a larger Map,he saw the name and Named the land Americus after him.Later changed to the accepted feminine form of America.
Hi. I don't understand people from the U.S. , they call their country "America" and furthermore they consider North America and South America to be two different continents, so, do they think that Columbus "discovered" two continents? or do they think that Columbus only "discovered" the existence of the U.S.? I don't get it! when I look on the map, i clearly see that north america and south america are one same continent, connected by the Isthmus of Panama.
@campeon222 *Columbus discovered San Salvador it is an Island,off the coast of South America.Then he went home.A Continent is a large land mass.North and South America,are two Continents.Now the Panama Canal,cuts them in half.He later discovered the mainland of South America.Look at that map again.And look up Continent also.
Hello. I have looked at the map over and over and I can't understand how can a person say that north america and south america aren't one same continent! Columbus and his people only "discovered" a single continent... That's why for the Olympics there are 5 arrows and 1 of those arrows represents the continent of America. To say that South America is a continent is like saying that western Europe is a continent..
@campeon222 * First,can you define" Continent" ? Well WIKI it and learn first what you are looking for.Next,WIKI, or Google," Continents",after which,all that a person says, will become clear to you.Then,Olympic Symbols,origins,would also be helpful.OK ?
Perhaps a scene where Columbus lets a pack of 100 murderous dogs on a community of natives in order to spare his soldiers the dirty work of fighting - for which there is plenty of evidence - might have redressed the balance somewhat.
This dreadful and mendacious film merits -10. Depardieu was chosen because he has Hollywood's favourite foreign accent and not because he was in any way suited for the role. The dialogue is as as wooden as the structures of Columbus's caravelles. Worst of all, whilst all the evidence shows that Colombus was a cruel, vainglorious and ignorant megalomaniac - he kept insisting to his dying day that the area he "discovered" was actually India - Depardieu depicts him as a Robin Hood of the seas.
@gaae2000 There indeed is a Bluray version - it looks absolutely stunning for a 1992 film. It was released for the French market, but contains an English soundtrack. The onscreen titles are in French. - Look it up, and you will find it!
America began with the opening of 500 years of dominance of the Western civilization.On coming to an end,unfortunately.China scare, they do not believe in on God.
Very well done! What a man - this humble mariner. So much passion - so much vision but in the end he lost everything. But he never lost the feeling of the moment, when he made his first step onto the "new world" - a relatively small moment in history (for NOT finding "America") but a huge moment for Columbus that never can be taken from him.
nadie descubrio lo que ya existia....ni civilizaron a otra civilizacion....ni conquistaron.....desmadraron y jodieron!!!!! hispanos los estupidos espanoles....yo no soy ni hispano, ni latinto ni su chingada madre....YO SOY MEXICANO!!! Y al que no le guste que chinge a su pendeja madre!!!!!
Other countries teach Afro Eurasia, Afro Eurasia and America. And all of them are right depending on where you live. If you disagree and say there is only the seven continent, six continent, no such thing as Afro Eurasia, no Eurasia, are all this other bullcrap than go and convince other countries to change their views. When you can do that you can make a video laughing at me and telling me that there are definitely [this many number of continents and here are their names].
ok to whatever the hell you retards are arguing about this continent shit:
The number of continents you are entirely depends on where you are taught, just like all the different map projections, there are different continent models, and all of them are used. Most English speaking countries and i think China use the 7 continent, the 6 continent Eurasia is used by Japan and some other countries, then there's one with America combined, and then the Olympics uses the America and Eurasia 5 continent
ellos nunca descubreron un contiente, america tenia su cultura, ciudades lengua , religion, ellos llegaron a masacrar, asesinar los nativos, ellos violaron las mujeres,
asesinos en nombre del catolicismo, y de espana, son los crimenes mas atroces qeu se han cometido, robaron saquearon a ameerica, y hoy aparecen con biografias impecables, sabiendo qeu fueron unos asesinos violadores.
@mateusraul9 Olvidas que todo eso fueron efectos colaterales, pero se ganó un premio mayor la Santa Fe Católica. El último Inca con soberanía real Atahualpa arrojó una biblia al suelo, solo por ese crimen merecía haber sido empalado, quemado, sus cenizas mezcladas con cal y sal para después ser arrojadas al desierto, pero al final solamente fue estrangulado por conspiración. Un segundo hecho importante es que esos hombres a los que describes son los antepasados de los que ahora allí viven.
@mateusraul9 Pero además, es que piensas que el oro y la plata se lo llevaban para mejorar España. En esa época el único deber de los gobiernos en este caso monarquía era defender a sus súbditos (tanto militar como espiritualmente[la Inquisición era conducida por la corona y no la Iglesia]), así que casi todos los metales preciosos acababan en las manos de los prestamistas que con los que el rey había contraído deudas para financiar las guerras. Para robar tierras los ingleses sus colonos.
spain isnt a shithole, and i dont know any country who is ok today all countrys have problems, well maybe countrys with lots of resources like australia or new zealand
call yourself whatever you want....but make sure you do not make the mistake of saying that you come from "America", while travelling throughout latin america. they will quickly consider you to be an uneducated, bigotted, self agrandizing ass who has no concept of history or culture.
In europe (old world) if you thought about travelling to America (new world) you were probably thinking about the area that is now the United States. It is easy to see how easily the name America became identified with the United States. the problem is that it is used as a term of entitlement. it is used for Americans to view themselves as separate and unique from other people of that region, which leads to hostile policies against other peoples of that region as shown throught history.
Native Americans lived much closer to utopia? You need to study a bit more of history. Most Native Americans lived under what today we would call a brutal dictatorship. Decisions reached by consensus? Nope If you disagreed with the emporer they would cut your heart out while you were alive like the Aztecs did to thousands of poor souls. In fact, the emporer of the Aztecs was as a God to their peoples, just like the Inca emporer. This is more like Nero of rome, a brutal dicatorship than utopia
@eldiezmaradona First of all, sacrifice was not considered horrible to the people of those nations. TO them they were sustaining the universe and preventing the death of it when they performed sacrifice. Killing people was more like releasing the greatest source of power into the universe than bloody murder. And the rulers also released a lot of their own blood and be sacrificed too so it wasn't like the most important people of their world was above the law of god.
the "emperor" of the Aztecs wasn't like a god. Inca was. But Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan never was. There were elections where chiefs selected new Tlatoani among the relatives of the previous. It wasn't a real democracy, but a kind of "democracy for aristocracy"
so, italians are white but spanish are not... how is that??? oh, wait... some french are white but some others are not... hmmm, that will make in the case of canada their french side unwhite while the other side will remain white... that's actually pretty weird.
this is the american (united state way of thinking really, 'cause when you reffer to a continent they think you reffer to their country) way of think... odd.
@MarcopFaria No!!!!! tu estas mal como todos, Espana era la potencia del mundo en ese tiempo y todos los logros eran para la gloria de Espana. Al mismo tiempo la envidia es muy grande y todos querian agarrar un pedazo de los triunfos, ademas si quieres leer un poco te deras cuenta que Cristobal Colom que es su mero nombre por las cartas que el firmo, el apellido proviene de los catalanes del norte de Espana, Y tampoco era Italiano como otros dicen. "La Gloria fue solo para Espana".
@deepintosports Meu caro amigo espanhol se caso não sabe de história eu posso contar o Cristovão Colombo descobriu a america ao seviço do rei de espanha por que portugal não o quis,mas antes dessa descoberta que eu acho muito importante portugal já tinha conquistado meio mundo.
@MarcopFaria No!!!!! tu estas mal como todos, Espana era la potencia del mundo en ese tiempo y todos los logros eran para la gloria de Espana. Al mismo tiempo la envidia es muy grande y todos querian agarrar un pedazo de los triunfos, ademas si quieres leer un poco te deras cuenta que Cristobal Colom que es su mero nombre por las cartas que el firmo, el apellido proviene de los catalanes del norte de Espana, Y tampoco era Italiano como otros dicen. "La Gloria fue solo para Espana".
The means of conquest were ruthless, this is for sure. However, I only can say that I feel more identified with the conquerers because we are their descendence. I feel Sorry for the excesses commited by all parts involved.
i think theres alot to be said about the Latin culture, why is it that Italians are considered white and not Latin in this country ? Italians are more Latin than anyone I think, I feel that once you loose your heritage you loose everything, the movie makes me see that as I live in this country as a Mexican American, of Spanish decent. The movie also tells me that no country or society lives for ever. Spain and Italy are the only 2 counties mentioned with their originals names in the bible
utopia? socialist societies? far from it. in fact the aztecs brutalized other native tribes and even went as far as ripping out there hearts and eating their bodies. human sacrifice. more like hell then utopia. the incas conquered their nieghors and forced tribute. the mayans, well, just like the aztecs, they also cut off heads and ripped out hearts. just face it, human nature is capable of evil, and this applies to natives as well as europeans. live with it
it was just a matter of time before a major power where to colonize the new world. And no the natives didn't live in Utopia like some believe. They suffered the same wars the europeans did. civil war in inca empire. warring between aztecs and other tribes. warring between mayas and other tribes. wars have existed in every continent. natives arent little angels, they are just as capable of greed as europeans. if not, then look at how the incas, mayas and aztecs conquered their weaker neighbors
If Columbus had never come to America, according to the butterfly effect, you, everyone you know and by now literally everyone in the world wouldn't be alive.......
Meaning the world would be completely different with different people.... MEANING....
they're be no one to create Harry Potter.....but they're would also be no create Twilight so its win lose either way.
I really liked this film although I think Ridley Scott was too cautious with his portrayal of Columbus. It looks like he created the character Moxica to represent the true Columbus, or at least the darker side of Columbus who punished and enslaved the natives.
Native Americans were living in a stable communist society, where nobody owned anything and decisions were reached by consensus. It would be exaggerating to call it an utopia, but it is certainly closer than anything we've been able to achieve.
@jacksawild Uh huh, and why don't you tell that to the Emperors of the Aztecs? Or perhaps the cities they conquered, or the slave they took. Face it, people are people no matter where they are, just because they got the shit end of the stick in the end does not suddenly make them inherently superior or inferior to their conquerors.
@jacksawild Yeah, that wonderful native society. Average life span of 30 years, constant tribal wars, no modern medicine, no technology better than sharp pointed sticks.....
@teddy516 Great improvement: a society which murdered them, moved them, broke promises to them, segregated them and forced them to submit to masters who then wages war abroad to murder, segregate and break yet more promises to native people who they have no business interfering with. Yeah... great improvement.
@jacksawild It is a great improvement. How many native americans living today in their houses with tv's, cars, etc... would go back to living in tents and chasing their dinner with spears? The answer is obvious.
@teddy516 I agree it is a great improvement. I wouldn't cite tvs and cars though. More like medicine and food supply. To each their own though, I guess. My comment was sarcasm pointing to truth as in even our wonderful societies, there is much to be improved and to think we cannot learn from what we consider to be more primitive cultures, would be foolish.
@jacksawild i wonder if they were so different from us; do u think betrayal, war, murder, and other crimes werent executed there? i seriously dont know so much about the way they lived but i cant believe it was such an equitable society....
@GeneralDerInfanterie "are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone...." - Columbus....." Among the Arawaks, mass suicides began, with cassava poison. Infants were killed to save them from the Spaniards. In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead." - Zinn, A peoples history
@GeneralDerInfanterie cont.. "They are not completely peaceful, because they do battle from time to time with other tribes, but their casualties seem small, and they fight when they are individually moved to do so because of some grievance, not on the orders of captains or kings.
Women in Indian society were treated so well as to startle the Spaniards."...."Marriage laws are non-existent men and women alike choose their mates and leave them as they please, without offense, jealousy or anger."
@GeneralDerInfanterie "They lack all manner of commerce, neither buying nor selling, and rely exclusively on their natural environment for maintenance. They are extremely generous with their possessions and by the same token covet the possessions of then; friends and expect the same degree of liberality."....
@GeneralDerInfanterie "Endless testimonies prove the mild and pacific temperament of the natives. But our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then"
@jacksawild yes i get ur point; seems like we can learn a lot from the natives, though i like our way of doing things better in some cases. everyone has his own opinion of course
@shazzboy They became dictatorships when the climate changed and resources became scarce. Eventually the people rose up against their dictators and killed them. The USA, in my view, is an afterthought of the history of the Americas.
@jacksawild LMAO, go watch Pocahontas again you delusional retard. Amazing how so many people eat up the noble redman myth/propaganda in fantasy Hollywood movies and books... Some Indian tribes were cool, most were completely savage. I'd like you to travel back in time as a Native American and try to walk across the beautiful continent of say, North America before you are murdered/sacrificed, tortured or enslaved by another tribe..You would likely make it no further than 50 miles at best.
@jacksawild indeed and ppl call these ppl for savages and un-educated. Those ppl should have been sent to SIberia for therapy! Some ppl in this world are very very lost and yet mankind has xplored every continent!
@jacksawild And they were in constant war, killing each other for resources... You forgot to mention that :) BTW, what you described is normal for hunter-gatherer societies, BUT, for their own family/tribe. With other families/tribes, we humans are pretty ruthless, because the worst enemy for a human in the wild, is another unknown human.
@jacksawild yea living like cavemen with stone age technology is clearly better than we have it now. if only we could acieve the same amazing feats of living like animals and squandering our brains.
@jacksawild You Too,try some History,YES "some" Native American Tribes/Councils etc, WERE happy.But many were NOT,same as today,it's the Chief,..good Chief=happy people,......Rat-Chief=unhappy people.Cave painting 50,000 years old have been found,the native people were here for a long,long,time,and not always happy.Europeans brought measles,mumps,plagues,that they has antibodies for.8 out of 10,natives died.
@jacksawild do you think they were really in a communist society? i learnt that they had alot of hierarchical relationships and different strata in their communities
@tizona101 - You would think so...but that's not how it was. The Indian's philosophy was "We own nothing. You can come and share everything." But of course the Europeans were like "No. We will take everything. And you Indians are sub human."
@gorfjorf2112112 i guess you really wanted me to reply to your idiotic comment, you should look further into this.... the truth is that Spain coulnt have done what they done with out their help,..spain walked into a civil war between them, both in Mexico and Peru, and look at some of the accounts, theres an account where 1000s were sacrficed in 1 morning had their hearts torn out, did you think that these worlds were gonna be separated for ever or something?
Americas a continent, not a country, and Columbus represented Spain, this movie's like a work of art, one of the only movies that show the real beginnings of European America, a time when England was just an insignificant shithole
@tizona101 too bad Spain is now the insignificant shithole...20% unemployed, and with the possibility of needing to be bailed out......once, Spain was a great country, now it isn't.....thats called decadence.....and you my friend, are part of the decadent era, not the glorious one
@rugby851 Desde luego es bastante más rica que Chile. Sin ir más lejos está entre las 10 economias más poderosas del mundo. Obviamente no es lo que era de eso no cabe duda, Francia tampoco es la que era en tiempos de napoleón o UK en su pleno apogeo.
@KikinBcN a Chile nadie lo tiene que rescatar, no tenemos 20% de desempleo, no vivimos del pasado, porque somos una nación creciente, nosotros somos futuro, ustedes pasado.....recuerda pequeño amigo, la epoca de gloria de españa pertenece a OTRAS personas, no a ti....tú eres parte de la época de decadencia....saludos
@rugby851 De momento a España no la ha rescatado nadie, Italia está peor, y no por ello tiene menos futuro que Chile. Chile a lo único que aspira es a mantener la hegemonía en su zona de influencia. Por no hablar del nivel de delincuencia de tu país, que es cuando menos "bastante" elevado. Mira es que no pienso ni seguir porque ni antes ni ahora ni creo que en el futuro cercano Chile y España jueguen en la misma división.
@KikinBcN ya estamos en la misma división pequeño e ingenuo amigo....te informo que ustedes pertenecen a la categoria de paises denominados ironicamente PIIGS (cerdos), ustedes tienen tales niveles de deuda que los mercados mundiales les asignan altas probabilidades de DEFAULT....o sea, NO PODER PAGAR SUS DEUDAS....ustedes viven de la ILUSION de grandeza, viven del pasado, pero apenas pueden pagar lo que gastan, que además es prestado....patetico, decadente...en la misma division?? jaja
@rugby851 Espera que me rio JA Ja ja JA Ja. El deficit español está en el 60%, el de otros paises como Italia esta en el 120% y ahi lo tienes formando parte del G7. Es decir para ti Chile está en la misma división jajajajaj, observa el PIB nominal, es decir riqueza absoluta: 12 España.....1.374.779
44 Chile- 199.183. Si los cálculos no me fallan España es como 11 veces más rica que Chile?. si, creo que si..datos reales, vive mejor un parado en España que un currante en Chile.
@KikinBcN jaja pobre tonto ignorante....ganas 2000 euros al mes?, eres un empleado satisfecho?....jaja en tu pais comprar un kilo de manzanas vale varias veces más que en Chile idiota, te vendieron la idea de riqueza, cuando en realidad tu costo de vida es mucho más alto y por ende tu poder adquisitivo menor....tonto, decadente, empleado.....2000 euros mensuales???, pff, yo invierto en la bolsa de Nueva York amiguito, 2000 euros mensuales??? jaja...sigue conformado en tu mediocridad...decadente
@rugby851 Efectivamente el coste de vida es más alto, pero aún con 5 millones de parados, me falta ver a un español irse a Chile a trabajar. Pondría la mano en el fuego y no me quemaría llamandote mentiroso, pero eres libre de creerte tu propias mentiras, por mi como si crees que trabajas en el Area 51.
@rugby851 Tu me dijiste que Chile está al nivel de España, y eso es falso... ( ojalá estuvieran mejor aún ). Chile está muy bien, cierto pero comparandolo con su zona de influencia. De hecho no veo empresas chilenas en España, pero si españolas en Chile. USA es el país con más mendigos del mundo, ¿quiere eso decir que es más pobre que Chile?. Los paises nórdicos no están ni entre los 20 paises más ricos del mundo, pero su nivel de vida es altísimo.
@rugby851 ¿De que hablamos?, de P.I.B nominal, de Renta per capita?. Porque en P.i.B nominal ( riqueza absoluta ), lo digo para ti que inviertes en bolsa jajajja, Nigeria es más rica que Chile.
@KikinBcN tonto, la gente mas rica de Chile tiene una mejor vida que el 90% de los españoles.....no se trata de la riqueza del pais, ese es el discurso del pueblo, se trata de los logros, exitos, riqueza PERSONAL....los ganadores hablamos POR NOSOTROS MISMOS, los perdedores y mediocres como tú hablan por el conjunto, por el pais.....la plebe de Roma también se vanagloriaba de la grandeza del imperio, cuando en verdad esa grandeza nunca fue de ellos....lo mismo le pasa a la gente como tú.
@rugby851 Ahora ya me estas hablando de otra cosa bien distinta, esa no es la riqueza de un país, esa es la riqueza personal que es muy distinta. Explotados y explotadores.. golfos y esclavos hay en todos lados. La discusión inicial no era esa. Según tu teoría, México debe de ser el mejor país del mundo, porque tiene a Carlos Slim entre sus ciudadanos.. habrase visto. Yo que coño me voy a vanagloriar.. a mi m la trae floja, solo son datos ni más ni menos.
@rugby851 eres chileno??? por favor, para de hablar pendejadas que me dejas mal como compatriota... te sientes orgulloso de ser un ganador por tus logros personales, pertenecer (según tú) a esa parte burgués del país que la mayoría de la gente detesta y re fregarlo a los demás en la cara???
loco, no sé si cagarme de vergüenza o ponerme a reír, pero por favor... no digas que eres un ganador, porque lo mas probable es que todo lo que tienes te lo dieron tus papitos... que pendejo mas pedante.
@rugby851 Cuidado con la información barata... si España está en la crisis que está, es por culpa del euro. Es una moneda hecha a la medida de Alemania, al no poder devaluarse, estanca el crecimiento económico de los paises "menos ricos" ... hasta Francia se esta viendo afectada ultimamente, así que tú me diras.
@rugby851 Jajaja Eres un autentico troll colega, ahora mismo España no está ni en defecit, está en crecimiento débil pero creciendo. Chile tiene q fijarse en paises como Nigeria, que está por delante de Chile en riqueaz absoluta.
@KikinBcN sigue nadando en tu desinformación amiguito, por gente como tú España está donde está....inspiran cero respeto....como dije: tú eres parte de la era decadente
@tizona101 America is not a continent, north and south America are continents. AMERICA IS a country you pretentious fuckwad, the United States of AMERICA. Do you expect people to call Americans 'United Statesmen'? Sick of douchebags like you harping over this non-issue which you are dead wrong about.
USA=America, USA citizens=Americans. END OF STORY SHITBAG.
@guest062888 you stupid son of a bitch....USA= united states of... imbecile..xd thats why on your passport it says USA not America u fool...u will never have America written on paper only word of mouth...what do you think the 5 Olympic rings represent?? America was 1 continent, you cant change history..sorry kid
@tizona101 Het fuckface, name another country in the Americas with AMERICA in it? Thought so you little bitch. AMERICANS have been called AMERICANS since the dawn of the USA . Fucking deal with it. I suppose next you will say South Africa is not a country because there are other countries in south Africa. God you are a fucking douche. I am not a united statesman(Well technically I am but LMAO) I am an American.
A great AMERICAN Steve Jobs just died so fuck off.
@guest062888 you only call yourself Americans.. because your country doesn't have a name, as other countries in the continent do..... countries that reject the west and reject the name America thats why they use it on USA citizens xd
@tizona101 Correction: EVERYONE calls us Americans(as they should, it is proper)aside from bitter losers with no lives like yourself.
Fact 1: USA=only country in the Americas with the name AMERICA in it
Fact 2: there is the United States of Mexico right below us
fact 3: Your IQ is sub-80, you borderline retarded pedophile.
Love,
-Your friend from the ONLY country in the Americas with the name America in it as well as one of 2 countries with the name United States in it in NORTH America.
@tizona101 Completely fucking irrelevant you chimpanzee. Do you call people from UAE 'United arab Emeratis'? No, you call them Emiratis. Show me where it says Emirates in place of UAE on a map douche bag. You are so dumb it is mind numbing.
All your retarded arguments aside, fact is, the whole world,from beggars, farmers, to elite businessmen,politicians &academics call USA citizens Americans and have for centuries. By virtue of that I am right, you are wrong. Now shut your fucking mouth.
@guest062888 Americas not a country...you must be retarded.. even showing it on 1492...Columbus first to reach the continent ...stick your united theory up your ass, continents aren't countries
@tizona101 You are very mixed up.First,Americas for Amerigo Vespucci,is America The Country.Which stole the Northern Continent from it's Native people.England "the shit hole" is NOW.But if you gaze at History,you will become aware that the English NAVY Ruled,along with the French Navy,and the Spanish Navy.For England to try to take over a continent,they were from NO shithole,then.England was NOT Insignificant,it was a Power.Try History.
@billy1212ist make some sense.. the continent was named after Americo..... another italian that represented Spain.... if you think that in the 15th century England was a significant world power then you need to study some more... look up this date..... 1741 Cartagena
@tizona101 Are you OK ??? I speak about the world in 1492.NOT 1741.There was NO SPAIN in1468,in 1469 the Aragon family and the Castile family married,and gave birth to SPAIN.The world was predominently a European one.The Church of ROME RULED,France the POWER and England a power with Navy,fought.Spain just started wanted Power also this was the 1400's,later Spain would grow to have more power.The Royals tried to intermarry to make ties.Yes i WILL look up 1741,but we are 300 years prior.??
@tizona101 *Columubus never set foot on North America,either did Vespucci.Cabot sailed from England that insignificant shithole as you said,for Henry VII,and found it in 1496,'found' it .Vikings were there in the 400's,Native people lived there for 1000's of years,before.Columbus got Haiti,and Caribian.Vespucci Brazil & South America named after him in 1507.As Central & North Continent was found,America "The Name" followed.Spain was conceived in 1486,Aragon&Castile married and Spain was born.
@billy1212ist It doesn't matter, Spain and Portugal divided the world in 1494(Tordesillas). Those territories which "discovered" Cabot, were in fact private property of the King of Castile(Spain). That treaty was ratified by the Pope with his temporal authority and subsequently by the Holy Roman Emperor (The King of Spain), successor of the Roman Emperors, therefore with authority in the entire world (orbi).
Responder a este vídeo... Para hablar de cultura tendríamos que reconocer que toda sociedad tiene cultura unas más avanzadas, otras menos. Dentro de la cultura se incluye la lengua (más o menos compleja) y la religión(falsa si no es la católica). Sobre las ciudades solamente existían en América del Sur y Mezoamérica, aunque no por tener ciudades se dejan de practicar sacrificios humanos como los aztecas o mayas y según parece los incas pero en menor medida, estuvo bien dejar de ser gobernados
@larn724 por déspotas que disponían de la vida o muerte de las personas, con los españoles llegaron los mandamientos como no matarás, no robarás, amarás al prójimo como a ti mismo.... (*según mi interpretación el prójimo es el hermano en Cristo, por lo tanto si un pagano impío rechaza a Nuestro Señor no es prójimo)
@tizona101 *This is YT,I can not Google ,the information then transfer it to you,why don't you just go do it? Do Google Sources know more about the subject ?You go and see OK ? .They ( Google) say C.Columbus NEVER set foot on North America. Then there is CENTRAL AMERICA,which you skipped by the way, then,SOUTH AMERICA. South was Named for Vespucci,the "NAME" spread to Central,then North.Just Google Cabott,and the others.as i did.I've also read two,thick books about him.Saw film 5 times.DONE.
@tizona101 Indeed this is correct, there are many examples of Florida being the oldest state occupied by the spanish such as 'Castillo San Marcos' in the city of St. Augustine -FL, a fort built by the spanish that still exists today... it has soo much dark history it is widely reported to be haunted.
@tizona101*Why such foolishness?WHY,after telling you that there were "Native" people in America FIRST ? The same holds true for Australia,the 'Native people ' were there FIRST. Capt.Cook,found/discovered it for himself,but the Island was already inhabited for 1000's of years.How the peoples got there is interesting,as is how some of the animals got there.You talk to me like I am stupid,you can Google all that I've said,to be true.Where as YOUR "England was a shithole",is NOT the case at all.
@billy1212ist ok... look at where you're writing your comments.... have you even seen the movie??? you just dont get it do u...it was new new world, for the old world {Europe} im done here.
@billy1212ist Third voyage....He explored the mainland of South America, including the Orinoco River. his journal..............5/8/1498 " I believe that this is a very great continent, until today unknown"....you're wrong Billy
@tizona101 * I found YOUR MISTAKE,you refer to North and South America being ONE CONTINENT,below in YOUR writing,go and read YOUR WORDS,..So to YOU, Columbus setting foot on South America is also discovering North America.NOT SO....Google "Continents",They are TWO Separate Continents,South,where he set foot,and NORTH AMERICA where he DID NOT. Read the names of the earths continents.If you DARE to say they were connected,then he discovered the earth,it's all connected. Must you be right?
@billy1212ist lol rage? can you not read? "was" i know now its 2 xd, ,.. America was know as 1 continent.. until not so long ago.... what do the 5 Olympic rings represent ... 5 continents. why do you think there's a north and south America??? lol why do you think they celebrate Columbus day in USA??
@101ELCID * NO, it was Not,Hey this is NOT a contest,or school,find out for yourself,Google it.What are you to lazy to find out that you are wrong ?What does "2 xd " mean? Known as 1 Continent,No it was NOT,your source is what ? "Until not so long ago" means what and when? Your source ? Why do they celebrate Columbus Day in America ? Google it and LEARN WHY.......I DID.
@101ELCID *My god you are slow.I AM SAYING,on the planet Earth there are 5 Continents-1) ,North America. 2), Africa 3),Asia. 4),South America. 5). Australia. These are all SEPARATE CONTINENTS. You can use GOOGLE to prove this to yourself. Christopher Columbus,on his FIRST Voyage discovered an ISLAND,on his THIRD Voyage he discovered a CONTINENT,SOUTH AMERICA, he never set a foot on NORTH AMERICA,which is a different CONTINENT.And YOU have the gall to call me a moron ?What a DOPE,YOU ARE.
@pdlussier -Thank You"just sayin",and you forgot the "G",I'm 'just saying' too.I realized later that I'd forgotten Antarctica and Europe.Was going to return and add them but they were NOT my point.My point has been stated over and over and 'the dope' part refuses to concede that North,and South America are 2 Different Continents,ELMORON with the 5 Rings threw me off.Reminds me of an ex-wife,who could never be wrong,when backed into a corner,and about to be wrong,she would change the subject.cont
@billy1212ist United States of "AMERICA" u stupid imbecile back then they didnt know 2 plates separated the continents.. so it was 1.. known as 1 so thats why Columbus gets the credit.. not every1 else that followed him
@tizona101 -Wow ! Plate tectonics,sure that's it,so it was one big Continent,ah boy you really are smart.And me,.....well,I am a moron imbecile for not realizing your grasp of geography and history .Your are really quite profound.YEP,YOU taught me,and allot of people much,thank You for your instruction.I am awed by your smarts.Bye.and we all thank you.
@pdlussier -cont...............This "tizona101" finally shut up with all of the ridiculous America was 1 Continent crap,mixing up the Americas with Continents,so to ELMORON with the 5 rings.And why celebrate in the USA.They also are and were in the USA miss taught.But for a reason The USA imported a New Irish working class,and they had Saint Patty's Day,to"FEEL" American.Then the ITALIAN working class needed a day too,hence"Christopher C.",all these facts are there,hit Google and you got it.NUTZ
Este holocuasto se quiere callar ...españa no lo acepta .... y aun siguen llegando a nuestras tierras como depredadores ..esta vez consumiendo sexoturismo
the movie wasn't that exciting ...just stereotyping natives ...not teaching about their culture, and something about bringing them to Europe...music is good tho
@bohemianwriter1 I just realized this was the whole dispute caused by him reading your post and me attacking his claim. lols You will be glad to know that he has resorted to name calling and seems unable to find any evidence to support his case. Meanwhile I found a vast multitude of evidence supporting mine.
@mrshutter77 What I find sad is that you attempt to hide your lack of an actually logical argument by attack me personally through a barrage of insults. Luckily your attempts are so see through that any person will intelligence will see through them. Do I need to point out that you have not shown any evidence supporting your claims.
"Actually it does, a dumb 18 year old raised by a jingle mommie is never to be taken seriously on anything" How could It discredit my evidence. I am just quoting things that other people have written.
"Maybe your dumb 18 year old ass need to work on his grammer skills because writing stupid sentences like this again!" do you really want to go there. Do you realize how many typing and grammar (let alone spelling) mistakes you have made.
The funny fact is that Sir Columbus, he did not speak English hehe...
fa18chornet 2 days ago
How sad that Columbus and other European conquerers ruined the New World Paradise by murdering and enslaving the indigenous Native American peoples, instead of reuniting with them as beloved brothers and sisters! If only the European peoples had the humility to learn from the spiritual wisdom of the Native American peoples and thereby blend the best elements of both cultures....! Now, in the magical year 2012, is the time to restore the intended paradise of love on a higher level than before...
Togetherness8 1 week ago
@Togetherness8 : Pretty well explained...
fa18chornet 2 days ago
People from USA, people from America, don't forget where you really come from...
AttackTheGasStation1 2 weeks ago
@AttackTheGasStation1 :Why say such a thing?Such a broad statement.How do you know who forgot? And who did not forget? Many are aware of History,some enjoy reading and studying about it.Others like to pick their nose's,these are the "Ones" to whom you speak,I take it.
billy1212ist 2 weeks ago
@billy1212ist Sorry if I hurt you.
AttackTheGasStation1 2 weeks ago
An outrage to the truth, give the name of Amerigo Vespucci to the continent discovered by another Italian Cristoforo Colombo. Vespucci was a journalist, Colombo a great and courageous navigator who, thanks to its sponsors the King of Spain, has been able to achieve this great enterprise.
feurzauber 3 weeks ago
@feurzauber * San Salvador,an Island is what he,Columbus discovered.Then went home.Vespucci discovered the Mainland,he was headed for South America,totally missed it,and hit North America.He signed his map,on the bottom right.When the Map Maker made a larger Map,he saw the name and Named the land Americus after him.Later changed to the accepted feminine form of America.
billy1212ist 2 weeks ago
Hi. I don't understand people from the U.S. , they call their country "America" and furthermore they consider North America and South America to be two different continents, so, do they think that Columbus "discovered" two continents? or do they think that Columbus only "discovered" the existence of the U.S.? I don't get it! when I look on the map, i clearly see that north america and south america are one same continent, connected by the Isthmus of Panama.
campeon222 3 weeks ago
@campeon222 *Columbus discovered San Salvador it is an Island,off the coast of South America.Then he went home.A Continent is a large land mass.North and South America,are two Continents.Now the Panama Canal,cuts them in half.He later discovered the mainland of South America.Look at that map again.And look up Continent also.
billy1212ist 2 weeks ago
Hello. I have looked at the map over and over and I can't understand how can a person say that north america and south america aren't one same continent! Columbus and his people only "discovered" a single continent... That's why for the Olympics there are 5 arrows and 1 of those arrows represents the continent of America. To say that South America is a continent is like saying that western Europe is a continent..
campeon222 2 weeks ago
@campeon222 * First,can you define" Continent" ? Well WIKI it and learn first what you are looking for.Next,WIKI, or Google," Continents",after which,all that a person says, will become clear to you.Then,Olympic Symbols,origins,would also be helpful.OK ?
billy1212ist 2 weeks ago
Perhaps a scene where Columbus lets a pack of 100 murderous dogs on a community of natives in order to spare his soldiers the dirty work of fighting - for which there is plenty of evidence - might have redressed the balance somewhat.
supportme123 3 weeks ago
This dreadful and mendacious film merits -10. Depardieu was chosen because he has Hollywood's favourite foreign accent and not because he was in any way suited for the role. The dialogue is as as wooden as the structures of Columbus's caravelles. Worst of all, whilst all the evidence shows that Colombus was a cruel, vainglorious and ignorant megalomaniac - he kept insisting to his dying day that the area he "discovered" was actually India - Depardieu depicts him as a Robin Hood of the seas.
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@gaae2000 There indeed is a Bluray version - it looks absolutely stunning for a 1992 film. It was released for the French market, but contains an English soundtrack. The onscreen titles are in French. - Look it up, and you will find it!
dalar2 1 month ago
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dalar2 1 month ago
There is no blue ray DVD for this movie! Why?
gaae2000 1 month ago
@gaae2000 4:56 why did it become violent all the sudden?
supersmash43 1 month ago
@supersmash43 cause it was violent since the very beginning!!!
CoJXP 1 month ago
11- blind and deaf
Vano3259 1 month ago
America began with the opening of 500 years of dominance of the Western civilization.On coming to an end,unfortunately.China scare, they do not believe in on God.
Azamat518 1 month ago
Very well done! What a man - this humble mariner. So much passion - so much vision but in the end he lost everything. But he never lost the feeling of the moment, when he made his first step onto the "new world" - a relatively small moment in history (for NOT finding "America") but a huge moment for Columbus that never can be taken from him.
Strap1205 1 month ago
nadie descubrio lo que ya existia....ni civilizaron a otra civilizacion....ni conquistaron.....desmadraron y jodieron!!!!! hispanos los estupidos espanoles....yo no soy ni hispano, ni latinto ni su chingada madre....YO SOY MEXICANO!!! Y al que no le guste que chinge a su pendeja madre!!!!!
TAQUEROCHIDO1966 1 month ago
Cristobal Colon y los españoles descubrieron, conquistaron y civilizaron todo un nuevo mundo. VIVA LA HISPANIDAD.
enrykkke 1 month ago
Very nice mix, well done
F1ashbax 2 months ago
they conquered new lands but now cancer has conquered them, cancer rules the world!!!
browndemon386 2 months ago
Beautifully edited piece. Had all the keys clips & key music from the film.
blayzertrayl 2 months ago
A tragédia européia chegou em três barcos e um mercenário comandando.
Armando1735 2 months ago
My vote is 1. eurasia 2. africa 3. australia 4. antarctica 5. south america 6. north america 7. atlantis (R.I.P.)
killerhook07 2 months ago
btw i meant to say "The number of continents there are..." in the first post.
NOW EVERYBODY SHUT UP ON ALL THIS CONTINENT SHIT....
SindittidniS 2 months ago
Other countries teach Afro Eurasia, Afro Eurasia and America. And all of them are right depending on where you live. If you disagree and say there is only the seven continent, six continent, no such thing as Afro Eurasia, no Eurasia, are all this other bullcrap than go and convince other countries to change their views. When you can do that you can make a video laughing at me and telling me that there are definitely [this many number of continents and here are their names].
SindittidniS 2 months ago
ok to whatever the hell you retards are arguing about this continent shit:
The number of continents you are entirely depends on where you are taught, just like all the different map projections, there are different continent models, and all of them are used. Most English speaking countries and i think China use the 7 continent, the 6 continent Eurasia is used by Japan and some other countries, then there's one with America combined, and then the Olympics uses the America and Eurasia 5 continent
SindittidniS 2 months ago
ellos nunca descubreron un contiente, america tenia su cultura, ciudades lengua , religion, ellos llegaron a masacrar, asesinar los nativos, ellos violaron las mujeres,
asesinos en nombre del catolicismo, y de espana, son los crimenes mas atroces qeu se han cometido, robaron saquearon a ameerica, y hoy aparecen con biografias impecables, sabiendo qeu fueron unos asesinos violadores.
mateusraul9 3 months ago
@mateusraul9 Olvidas que todo eso fueron efectos colaterales, pero se ganó un premio mayor la Santa Fe Católica. El último Inca con soberanía real Atahualpa arrojó una biblia al suelo, solo por ese crimen merecía haber sido empalado, quemado, sus cenizas mezcladas con cal y sal para después ser arrojadas al desierto, pero al final solamente fue estrangulado por conspiración. Un segundo hecho importante es que esos hombres a los que describes son los antepasados de los que ahora allí viven.
larn724 3 months ago
@mateusraul9 Pero además, es que piensas que el oro y la plata se lo llevaban para mejorar España. En esa época el único deber de los gobiernos en este caso monarquía era defender a sus súbditos (tanto militar como espiritualmente[la Inquisición era conducida por la corona y no la Iglesia]), así que casi todos los metales preciosos acababan en las manos de los prestamistas que con los que el rey había contraído deudas para financiar las guerras. Para robar tierras los ingleses sus colonos.
larn724 3 months ago
spain isnt a shithole, and i dont know any country who is ok today all countrys have problems, well maybe countrys with lots of resources like australia or new zealand
ukusapillage 3 months ago
11 people had their hands cut
04archuleta 3 months ago
como se llama esta movie..
patitochiquitoeyema 3 months ago
@patitochiquitoeyema 1492 Conquest of Paradise
GrayRealities 3 months ago
call yourself whatever you want....but make sure you do not make the mistake of saying that you come from "America", while travelling throughout latin america. they will quickly consider you to be an uneducated, bigotted, self agrandizing ass who has no concept of history or culture.
alexgomez83 3 months ago
In europe (old world) if you thought about travelling to America (new world) you were probably thinking about the area that is now the United States. It is easy to see how easily the name America became identified with the United States. the problem is that it is used as a term of entitlement. it is used for Americans to view themselves as separate and unique from other people of that region, which leads to hostile policies against other peoples of that region as shown throught history.
alexgomez83 3 months ago
Τα παλιοκαραβα της Α.Μεγαλειωτατης φορτωμενα μ ολη την πλεμπα,κατεστρεψαν τον πολιτισμο των Αμερικανων.
nikosk87 3 months ago
Columbus had all the spirit of a crusader, and, at the same time, the investigating nature of a modern man of science. ~Edmund Arthur Helps
crusader1571 3 months ago 2
blood, guts, glory
fsxflyer787 3 months ago
Native Americans lived much closer to utopia? You need to study a bit more of history. Most Native Americans lived under what today we would call a brutal dictatorship. Decisions reached by consensus? Nope If you disagreed with the emporer they would cut your heart out while you were alive like the Aztecs did to thousands of poor souls. In fact, the emporer of the Aztecs was as a God to their peoples, just like the Inca emporer. This is more like Nero of rome, a brutal dicatorship than utopia
eldiezmaradona 4 months ago
@eldiezmaradona First of all, sacrifice was not considered horrible to the people of those nations. TO them they were sustaining the universe and preventing the death of it when they performed sacrifice. Killing people was more like releasing the greatest source of power into the universe than bloody murder. And the rulers also released a lot of their own blood and be sacrificed too so it wasn't like the most important people of their world was above the law of god.
MexicanoINC 3 months ago
@eldiezmaradona
the "emperor" of the Aztecs wasn't like a god. Inca was. But Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan never was. There were elections where chiefs selected new Tlatoani among the relatives of the previous. It wasn't a real democracy, but a kind of "democracy for aristocracy"
KateeAngel 3 months ago
so, italians are white but spanish are not... how is that??? oh, wait... some french are white but some others are not... hmmm, that will make in the case of canada their french side unwhite while the other side will remain white... that's actually pretty weird.
this is the american (united state way of thinking really, 'cause when you reffer to a continent they think you reffer to their country) way of think... odd.
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saw this movie in history class about a week ago
LastGeicoCaveman 4 months ago
Cristovão Colombo era português e não italiano só podia descobrir a america assim como luso.
MarcopFaria 4 months ago
@MarcopFaria No!!!!! tu estas mal como todos, Espana era la potencia del mundo en ese tiempo y todos los logros eran para la gloria de Espana. Al mismo tiempo la envidia es muy grande y todos querian agarrar un pedazo de los triunfos, ademas si quieres leer un poco te deras cuenta que Cristobal Colom que es su mero nombre por las cartas que el firmo, el apellido proviene de los catalanes del norte de Espana, Y tampoco era Italiano como otros dicen. "La Gloria fue solo para Espana".
deepintosports 4 months ago
@deepintosports Meu caro amigo espanhol se caso não sabe de história eu posso contar o Cristovão Colombo descobriu a america ao seviço do rei de espanha por que portugal não o quis,mas antes dessa descoberta que eu acho muito importante portugal já tinha conquistado meio mundo.
MarcopFaria 4 months ago
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@MarcopFaria No!!!!! tu estas mal como todos, Espana era la potencia del mundo en ese tiempo y todos los logros eran para la gloria de Espana. Al mismo tiempo la envidia es muy grande y todos querian agarrar un pedazo de los triunfos, ademas si quieres leer un poco te deras cuenta que Cristobal Colom que es su mero nombre por las cartas que el firmo, el apellido proviene de los catalanes del norte de Espana, Y tampoco era Italiano como otros dicen. "La Gloria fue solo para Espana".
deepintosports 4 months ago
@MarcopFaria no, Columbus was from Mars
tizona101 4 months ago
he was from Genoa, Italy.
EllliotJack4 4 months ago
The means of conquest were ruthless, this is for sure. However, I only can say that I feel more identified with the conquerers because we are their descendence. I feel Sorry for the excesses commited by all parts involved.
MrAguantemafalda 5 months ago
i think theres alot to be said about the Latin culture, why is it that Italians are considered white and not Latin in this country ? Italians are more Latin than anyone I think, I feel that once you loose your heritage you loose everything, the movie makes me see that as I live in this country as a Mexican American, of Spanish decent. The movie also tells me that no country or society lives for ever. Spain and Italy are the only 2 counties mentioned with their originals names in the bible
abarrios110 5 months ago
utopia? socialist societies? far from it. in fact the aztecs brutalized other native tribes and even went as far as ripping out there hearts and eating their bodies. human sacrifice. more like hell then utopia. the incas conquered their nieghors and forced tribute. the mayans, well, just like the aztecs, they also cut off heads and ripped out hearts. just face it, human nature is capable of evil, and this applies to natives as well as europeans. live with it
eldiezmaradona 6 months ago 3
it was just a matter of time before a major power where to colonize the new world. And no the natives didn't live in Utopia like some believe. They suffered the same wars the europeans did. civil war in inca empire. warring between aztecs and other tribes. warring between mayas and other tribes. wars have existed in every continent. natives arent little angels, they are just as capable of greed as europeans. if not, then look at how the incas, mayas and aztecs conquered their weaker neighbors
eldiezmaradona 6 months ago
Columbus' face looks like Lionel Messi!
poppypudhaphong 6 months ago
If Columbus had never come to America, according to the butterfly effect, you, everyone you know and by now literally everyone in the world wouldn't be alive.......
Meaning the world would be completely different with different people.... MEANING....
they're be no one to create Harry Potter.....but they're would also be no create Twilight so its win lose either way.
RollOnToVictory 6 months ago
one day the north part of this continent will be renamed to...omerica...or homerica....and the south part to colombia....
this will be the nemesis-justice of the future...
anonymosoellin 6 months ago
I really liked this film although I think Ridley Scott was too cautious with his portrayal of Columbus. It looks like he created the character Moxica to represent the true Columbus, or at least the darker side of Columbus who punished and enslaved the natives.
iainhead 6 months ago
I wanna see this god damn movie!!! It sounds so good! People who reviewed it: Is the movie good or not?
loulou93311 6 months ago
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@loulou93311 : It is one of the best movies out there!
MaTaYoJo 6 months ago
@loulou93311 extraordinary movie...
nefredil 6 months ago
what a demonizing representation of the natives! far from the truth
simplejb1 6 months ago
Native Americans were living in a stable communist society, where nobody owned anything and decisions were reached by consensus. It would be exaggerating to call it an utopia, but it is certainly closer than anything we've been able to achieve.
jacksawild 6 months ago 9
@jacksawild yeah, cause they didn't wage war for territorial conquest or anything like that.
corneliusvanDB 6 months ago
@jacksawild Uh huh, and why don't you tell that to the Emperors of the Aztecs? Or perhaps the cities they conquered, or the slave they took. Face it, people are people no matter where they are, just because they got the shit end of the stick in the end does not suddenly make them inherently superior or inferior to their conquerors.
asmodeon 6 months ago
@asmodeon I agree, but my point stands.
jacksawild 6 months ago
@jacksawild Yeah, that wonderful native society. Average life span of 30 years, constant tribal wars, no modern medicine, no technology better than sharp pointed sticks.....
teddy516 5 months ago
@teddy516 Great improvement: a society which murdered them, moved them, broke promises to them, segregated them and forced them to submit to masters who then wages war abroad to murder, segregate and break yet more promises to native people who they have no business interfering with. Yeah... great improvement.
jacksawild 5 months ago
@jacksawild It is a great improvement. How many native americans living today in their houses with tv's, cars, etc... would go back to living in tents and chasing their dinner with spears? The answer is obvious.
teddy516 5 months ago
@teddy516 I agree it is a great improvement. I wouldn't cite tvs and cars though. More like medicine and food supply. To each their own though, I guess. My comment was sarcasm pointing to truth as in even our wonderful societies, there is much to be improved and to think we cannot learn from what we consider to be more primitive cultures, would be foolish.
jacksawild 5 months ago
@jacksawild Agreed.
teddy516 5 months ago
@jacksawild i wonder if they were so different from us; do u think betrayal, war, murder, and other crimes werent executed there? i seriously dont know so much about the way they lived but i cant believe it was such an equitable society....
GeneralDerInfanterie 5 months ago
@GeneralDerInfanterie "are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone...." - Columbus....." Among the Arawaks, mass suicides began, with cassava poison. Infants were killed to save them from the Spaniards. In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead." - Zinn, A peoples history
jacksawild 5 months ago
@GeneralDerInfanterie cont.. "They are not completely peaceful, because they do battle from time to time with other tribes, but their casualties seem small, and they fight when they are individually moved to do so because of some grievance, not on the orders of captains or kings.
Women in Indian society were treated so well as to startle the Spaniards."...."Marriage laws are non-existent men and women alike choose their mates and leave them as they please, without offense, jealousy or anger."
jacksawild 5 months ago
@GeneralDerInfanterie "They lack all manner of commerce, neither buying nor selling, and rely exclusively on their natural environment for maintenance. They are extremely generous with their possessions and by the same token covet the possessions of then; friends and expect the same degree of liberality."....
jacksawild 5 months ago
@GeneralDerInfanterie "Endless testimonies prove the mild and pacific temperament of the natives. But our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then"
jacksawild 5 months ago
@GeneralDerInfanterie It goes on... but you get the point
jacksawild 5 months ago
@jacksawild yes i get ur point; seems like we can learn a lot from the natives, though i like our way of doing things better in some cases. everyone has his own opinion of course
GeneralDerInfanterie 5 months ago
@jacksawild
Not true in the Aztec and Inca Empires. They were brutal autocratic dictatorships. Theres more to the Americas than the USA.
shazzboy 4 months ago
@shazzboy They became dictatorships when the climate changed and resources became scarce. Eventually the people rose up against their dictators and killed them. The USA, in my view, is an afterthought of the history of the Americas.
jacksawild 3 months ago
@jacksawild LMAO, go watch Pocahontas again you delusional retard. Amazing how so many people eat up the noble redman myth/propaganda in fantasy Hollywood movies and books... Some Indian tribes were cool, most were completely savage. I'd like you to travel back in time as a Native American and try to walk across the beautiful continent of say, North America before you are murdered/sacrificed, tortured or enslaved by another tribe..You would likely make it no further than 50 miles at best.
guest062888 3 months ago
@guest062888 I'll put my history degree against your knowledge of disney films any day, retard.
jacksawild 3 months ago
@jacksawild
what the fuck is this bullshit ??? :)))
the fact that they hated the other tribes so much brought their demise. comunist society my ass =)
fucking hippie
muiebozgorilor 3 months ago
@jacksawild indeed and ppl call these ppl for savages and un-educated. Those ppl should have been sent to SIberia for therapy! Some ppl in this world are very very lost and yet mankind has xplored every continent!
Opiuth 3 months ago
@jacksawild And they were in constant war, killing each other for resources... You forgot to mention that :) BTW, what you described is normal for hunter-gatherer societies, BUT, for their own family/tribe. With other families/tribes, we humans are pretty ruthless, because the worst enemy for a human in the wild, is another unknown human.
AgimA74 3 months ago
@jacksawild yea living like cavemen with stone age technology is clearly better than we have it now. if only we could acieve the same amazing feats of living like animals and squandering our brains.
pkendall19 3 months ago
@jacksawild You Too,try some History,YES "some" Native American Tribes/Councils etc, WERE happy.But many were NOT,same as today,it's the Chief,..good Chief=happy people,......Rat-Chief=unhappy people.Cave painting 50,000 years old have been found,the native people were here for a long,long,time,and not always happy.Europeans brought measles,mumps,plagues,that they has antibodies for.8 out of 10,natives died.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@jacksawild Native Indians killed, murdered, and raped each other enough times to make the taliban look civilized. FACT!
aguyfromTennessee 3 months ago
@jacksawild do you think they were really in a communist society? i learnt that they had alot of hierarchical relationships and different strata in their communities
mariaj985 3 months ago
...and so began the SLAUGHTER of millions of Indians.
gorfjorf2112112 7 months ago
@gorfjorf2112112 well they were also slaughtering eachother
tizona101 7 months ago
@tizona101 - You would think so...but that's not how it was. The Indian's philosophy was "We own nothing. You can come and share everything." But of course the Europeans were like "No. We will take everything. And you Indians are sub human."
gorfjorf2112112 7 months ago
@gorfjorf2112112 i guess you really wanted me to reply to your idiotic comment, you should look further into this.... the truth is that Spain coulnt have done what they done with out their help,..spain walked into a civil war between them, both in Mexico and Peru, and look at some of the accounts, theres an account where 1000s were sacrficed in 1 morning had their hearts torn out, did you think that these worlds were gonna be separated for ever or something?
tizona101 7 months ago
@tizona101 - Dude...I ain't arguing with you. The world is fucked up and always has been.
gorfjorf2112112 7 months ago
@gorfjorf2112112 you're right
tizona101 7 months ago
@tizona101 How ignorant, how arrogant..
People like you should hand their life over to someone who can treat with it rationally...fool
Kyoulicious 7 months ago
anybody knows why the indians spit out that white shit when they got stabbed ?
ridlazz921 7 months ago
Americas a continent, not a country, and Columbus represented Spain, this movie's like a work of art, one of the only movies that show the real beginnings of European America, a time when England was just an insignificant shithole
tizona101 7 months ago 17
@tizona101 Columbus represents Spain it is true, but he also works for the devil as he is a mason. Cheers.
mtlfinest123 7 months ago
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tizona101 7 months ago
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@mtlfinest123 no.... he was just a man,.. like you and me, unfortunately its in mans nature to destroy
tizona101 7 months ago 2
@tizona101 what england did to you to frive hate for them
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rugby851 5 months ago
@tizona101 too bad Spain is now the insignificant shithole...20% unemployed, and with the possibility of needing to be bailed out......once, Spain was a great country, now it isn't.....thats called decadence.....and you my friend, are part of the decadent era, not the glorious one
rugby851 5 months ago 3
@rugby851 Desde luego es bastante más rica que Chile. Sin ir más lejos está entre las 10 economias más poderosas del mundo. Obviamente no es lo que era de eso no cabe duda, Francia tampoco es la que era en tiempos de napoleón o UK en su pleno apogeo.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@KikinBcN a Chile nadie lo tiene que rescatar, no tenemos 20% de desempleo, no vivimos del pasado, porque somos una nación creciente, nosotros somos futuro, ustedes pasado.....recuerda pequeño amigo, la epoca de gloria de españa pertenece a OTRAS personas, no a ti....tú eres parte de la época de decadencia....saludos
rugby851 5 months ago
@rugby851 De momento a España no la ha rescatado nadie, Italia está peor, y no por ello tiene menos futuro que Chile. Chile a lo único que aspira es a mantener la hegemonía en su zona de influencia. Por no hablar del nivel de delincuencia de tu país, que es cuando menos "bastante" elevado. Mira es que no pienso ni seguir porque ni antes ni ahora ni creo que en el futuro cercano Chile y España jueguen en la misma división.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@KikinBcN ya estamos en la misma división pequeño e ingenuo amigo....te informo que ustedes pertenecen a la categoria de paises denominados ironicamente PIIGS (cerdos), ustedes tienen tales niveles de deuda que los mercados mundiales les asignan altas probabilidades de DEFAULT....o sea, NO PODER PAGAR SUS DEUDAS....ustedes viven de la ILUSION de grandeza, viven del pasado, pero apenas pueden pagar lo que gastan, que además es prestado....patetico, decadente...en la misma division?? jaja
rugby851 5 months ago
@rugby851 Espera que me rio JA Ja ja JA Ja. El deficit español está en el 60%, el de otros paises como Italia esta en el 120% y ahi lo tienes formando parte del G7. Es decir para ti Chile está en la misma división jajajajaj, observa el PIB nominal, es decir riqueza absoluta: 12 España.....1.374.779
44 Chile- 199.183. Si los cálculos no me fallan España es como 11 veces más rica que Chile?. si, creo que si..datos reales, vive mejor un parado en España que un currante en Chile.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 A ti te quiero ver ganando 2000 $ como gano yo al mes.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@KikinBcN jaja pobre tonto ignorante....ganas 2000 euros al mes?, eres un empleado satisfecho?....jaja en tu pais comprar un kilo de manzanas vale varias veces más que en Chile idiota, te vendieron la idea de riqueza, cuando en realidad tu costo de vida es mucho más alto y por ende tu poder adquisitivo menor....tonto, decadente, empleado.....2000 euros mensuales???, pff, yo invierto en la bolsa de Nueva York amiguito, 2000 euros mensuales??? jaja...sigue conformado en tu mediocridad...decadente
rugby851 5 months ago
@rugby851 Efectivamente el coste de vida es más alto, pero aún con 5 millones de parados, me falta ver a un español irse a Chile a trabajar. Pondría la mano en el fuego y no me quemaría llamandote mentiroso, pero eres libre de creerte tu propias mentiras, por mi como si crees que trabajas en el Area 51.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 Tu me dijiste que Chile está al nivel de España, y eso es falso... ( ojalá estuvieran mejor aún ). Chile está muy bien, cierto pero comparandolo con su zona de influencia. De hecho no veo empresas chilenas en España, pero si españolas en Chile. USA es el país con más mendigos del mundo, ¿quiere eso decir que es más pobre que Chile?. Los paises nórdicos no están ni entre los 20 paises más ricos del mundo, pero su nivel de vida es altísimo.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 ¿De que hablamos?, de P.I.B nominal, de Renta per capita?. Porque en P.i.B nominal ( riqueza absoluta ), lo digo para ti que inviertes en bolsa jajajja, Nigeria es más rica que Chile.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 España 12º, Chile 44º, si eso es estar cerca....que venga dios y lo vea.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@KikinBcN tonto, la gente mas rica de Chile tiene una mejor vida que el 90% de los españoles.....no se trata de la riqueza del pais, ese es el discurso del pueblo, se trata de los logros, exitos, riqueza PERSONAL....los ganadores hablamos POR NOSOTROS MISMOS, los perdedores y mediocres como tú hablan por el conjunto, por el pais.....la plebe de Roma también se vanagloriaba de la grandeza del imperio, cuando en verdad esa grandeza nunca fue de ellos....lo mismo le pasa a la gente como tú.
rugby851 5 months ago
@rugby851 Ahora ya me estas hablando de otra cosa bien distinta, esa no es la riqueza de un país, esa es la riqueza personal que es muy distinta. Explotados y explotadores.. golfos y esclavos hay en todos lados. La discusión inicial no era esa. Según tu teoría, México debe de ser el mejor país del mundo, porque tiene a Carlos Slim entre sus ciudadanos.. habrase visto. Yo que coño me voy a vanagloriar.. a mi m la trae floja, solo son datos ni más ni menos.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 eres chileno??? por favor, para de hablar pendejadas que me dejas mal como compatriota... te sientes orgulloso de ser un ganador por tus logros personales, pertenecer (según tú) a esa parte burgués del país que la mayoría de la gente detesta y re fregarlo a los demás en la cara???
loco, no sé si cagarme de vergüenza o ponerme a reír, pero por favor... no digas que eres un ganador, porque lo mas probable es que todo lo que tienes te lo dieron tus papitos... que pendejo mas pedante.
sevencrushes 4 months ago
@rugby851 Cuidado con la información barata... si España está en la crisis que está, es por culpa del euro. Es una moneda hecha a la medida de Alemania, al no poder devaluarse, estanca el crecimiento económico de los paises "menos ricos" ... hasta Francia se esta viendo afectada ultimamente, así que tú me diras.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@rugby851 Jajaja Eres un autentico troll colega, ahora mismo España no está ni en defecit, está en crecimiento débil pero creciendo. Chile tiene q fijarse en paises como Nigeria, que está por delante de Chile en riqueaz absoluta.
KikinBcN 5 months ago
@KikinBcN sigue nadando en tu desinformación amiguito, por gente como tú España está donde está....inspiran cero respeto....como dije: tú eres parte de la era decadente
rugby851 5 months ago
@tizona101 Realy? Columbus looks more like a foreign(not only in culture and language) to Spain. But in his feeling and beliefs aswell.
ImperialGuard9001 5 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 culture and language?? feelings believes? you are the foreigner here
tizona101 4 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 be a little more specific
tizona101 4 months ago
@tizona101 America is not a continent, north and south America are continents. AMERICA IS a country you pretentious fuckwad, the United States of AMERICA. Do you expect people to call Americans 'United Statesmen'? Sick of douchebags like you harping over this non-issue which you are dead wrong about.
USA=America, USA citizens=Americans. END OF STORY SHITBAG.
guest062888 3 months ago
@guest062888 you stupid son of a bitch....USA= united states of... imbecile..xd thats why on your passport it says USA not America u fool...u will never have America written on paper only word of mouth...what do you think the 5 Olympic rings represent?? America was 1 continent, you cant change history..sorry kid
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 Het fuckface, name another country in the Americas with AMERICA in it? Thought so you little bitch. AMERICANS have been called AMERICANS since the dawn of the USA . Fucking deal with it. I suppose next you will say South Africa is not a country because there are other countries in south Africa. God you are a fucking douche. I am not a united statesman(Well technically I am but LMAO) I am an American.
A great AMERICAN Steve Jobs just died so fuck off.
-American citizen
guest062888 3 months ago
@guest062888 you only call yourself Americans.. because your country doesn't have a name, as other countries in the continent do..... countries that reject the west and reject the name America thats why they use it on USA citizens xd
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 Correction: EVERYONE calls us Americans(as they should, it is proper)aside from bitter losers with no lives like yourself.
Fact 1: USA=only country in the Americas with the name AMERICA in it
Fact 2: there is the United States of Mexico right below us
fact 3: Your IQ is sub-80, you borderline retarded pedophile.
Love,
-Your friend from the ONLY country in the Americas with the name America in it as well as one of 2 countries with the name United States in it in NORTH America.
guest062888 3 months ago
@guest062888 dude.. find me a document or map that names USA America LMAO.. i rest my case.. you poor fool
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 Completely fucking irrelevant you chimpanzee. Do you call people from UAE 'United arab Emeratis'? No, you call them Emiratis. Show me where it says Emirates in place of UAE on a map douche bag. You are so dumb it is mind numbing.
All your retarded arguments aside, fact is, the whole world,from beggars, farmers, to elite businessmen,politicians &academics call USA citizens Americans and have for centuries. By virtue of that I am right, you are wrong. Now shut your fucking mouth.
guest062888 3 months ago
@guest062888 Americas not a country...you must be retarded.. even showing it on 1492...Columbus first to reach the continent ...stick your united theory up your ass, continents aren't countries
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 You are very mixed up.First,Americas for Amerigo Vespucci,is America The Country.Which stole the Northern Continent from it's Native people.England "the shit hole" is NOW.But if you gaze at History,you will become aware that the English NAVY Ruled,along with the French Navy,and the Spanish Navy.For England to try to take over a continent,they were from NO shithole,then.England was NOT Insignificant,it was a Power.Try History.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist make some sense.. the continent was named after Americo..... another italian that represented Spain.... if you think that in the 15th century England was a significant world power then you need to study some more... look up this date..... 1741 Cartagena
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 Are you OK ??? I speak about the world in 1492.NOT 1741.There was NO SPAIN in1468,in 1469 the Aragon family and the Castile family married,and gave birth to SPAIN.The world was predominently a European one.The Church of ROME RULED,France the POWER and England a power with Navy,fought.Spain just started wanted Power also this was the 1400's,later Spain would grow to have more power.The Royals tried to intermarry to make ties.Yes i WILL look up 1741,but we are 300 years prior.??
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@tizona101 *Columubus never set foot on North America,either did Vespucci.Cabot sailed from England that insignificant shithole as you said,for Henry VII,and found it in 1496,'found' it .Vikings were there in the 400's,Native people lived there for 1000's of years,before.Columbus got Haiti,and Caribian.Vespucci Brazil & South America named after him in 1507.As Central & North Continent was found,America "The Name" followed.Spain was conceived in 1486,Aragon&Castile married and Spain was born.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist It doesn't matter, Spain and Portugal divided the world in 1494(Tordesillas). Those territories which "discovered" Cabot, were in fact private property of the King of Castile(Spain). That treaty was ratified by the Pope with his temporal authority and subsequently by the Holy Roman Emperor (The King of Spain), successor of the Roman Emperors, therefore with authority in the entire world (orbi).
larn724 3 months ago
Responder a este vídeo... Para hablar de cultura tendríamos que reconocer que toda sociedad tiene cultura unas más avanzadas, otras menos. Dentro de la cultura se incluye la lengua (más o menos compleja) y la religión(falsa si no es la católica). Sobre las ciudades solamente existían en América del Sur y Mezoamérica, aunque no por tener ciudades se dejan de practicar sacrificios humanos como los aztecas o mayas y según parece los incas pero en menor medida, estuvo bien dejar de ser gobernados
larn724 3 months ago
@larn724 por déspotas que disponían de la vida o muerte de las personas, con los españoles llegaron los mandamientos como no matarás, no robarás, amarás al prójimo como a ti mismo.... (*según mi interpretación el prójimo es el hermano en Cristo, por lo tanto si un pagano impío rechaza a Nuestro Señor no es prójimo)
larn724 3 months ago
@billy1212ist im sorry, America was 1 continent... north and south.... and Columbus was first to set foot on it......
simple... then followed Vespucci....cabott,... Florida is the oldest state occupied by Europeans, and Vespucci was first there
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 *This is YT,I can not Google ,the information then transfer it to you,why don't you just go do it? Do Google Sources know more about the subject ?You go and see OK ? .They ( Google) say C.Columbus NEVER set foot on North America. Then there is CENTRAL AMERICA,which you skipped by the way, then,SOUTH AMERICA. South was Named for Vespucci,the "NAME" spread to Central,then North.Just Google Cabott,and the others.as i did.I've also read two,thick books about him.Saw film 5 times.DONE.
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tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 Indeed this is correct, there are many examples of Florida being the oldest state occupied by the spanish such as 'Castillo San Marcos' in the city of St. Augustine -FL, a fort built by the spanish that still exists today... it has soo much dark history it is widely reported to be haunted.
dalar2 2 months ago
@billy1212ist Soon you;'ll tell me that Australia was discovered by Captain Cook right?? xd
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101*Why such foolishness?WHY,after telling you that there were "Native" people in America FIRST ? The same holds true for Australia,the 'Native people ' were there FIRST. Capt.Cook,found/discovered it for himself,but the Island was already inhabited for 1000's of years.How the peoples got there is interesting,as is how some of the animals got there.You talk to me like I am stupid,you can Google all that I've said,to be true.Where as YOUR "England was a shithole",is NOT the case at all.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist ok... look at where you're writing your comments.... have you even seen the movie??? you just dont get it do u...it was new new world, for the old world {Europe} im done here.
tizona101 3 months ago
@billy1212ist Third voyage....He explored the mainland of South America, including the Orinoco River. his journal..............5/8/1498 " I believe that this is a very great continent, until today unknown"....you're wrong Billy
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 * I found YOUR MISTAKE,you refer to North and South America being ONE CONTINENT,below in YOUR writing,go and read YOUR WORDS,..So to YOU, Columbus setting foot on South America is also discovering North America.NOT SO....Google "Continents",They are TWO Separate Continents,South,where he set foot,and NORTH AMERICA where he DID NOT. Read the names of the earths continents.If you DARE to say they were connected,then he discovered the earth,it's all connected. Must you be right?
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist lol rage? can you not read? "was" i know now its 2 xd, ,.. America was know as 1 continent.. until not so long ago.... what do the 5 Olympic rings represent ... 5 continents. why do you think there's a north and south America??? lol why do you think they celebrate Columbus day in USA??
101ELCID 3 months ago
@101ELCID * NO, it was Not,Hey this is NOT a contest,or school,find out for yourself,Google it.What are you to lazy to find out that you are wrong ?What does "2 xd " mean? Known as 1 Continent,No it was NOT,your source is what ? "Until not so long ago" means what and when? Your source ? Why do they celebrate Columbus Day in America ? Google it and LEARN WHY.......I DID.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist if you're trying to say that South America is not part of the Americas... well dude.. you must be some kind of moron
101ELCID 3 months ago
@101ELCID *My god you are slow.I AM SAYING,on the planet Earth there are 5 Continents-1) ,North America. 2), Africa 3),Asia. 4),South America. 5). Australia. These are all SEPARATE CONTINENTS. You can use GOOGLE to prove this to yourself. Christopher Columbus,on his FIRST Voyage discovered an ISLAND,on his THIRD Voyage he discovered a CONTINENT,SOUTH AMERICA, he never set a foot on NORTH AMERICA,which is a different CONTINENT.And YOU have the gall to call me a moron ?What a DOPE,YOU ARE.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist Apparently, you're a big "dope" yourself... There are 7, not 5 continents. Just sayin'...
pdlussier 3 months ago
@pdlussier -Thank You"just sayin",and you forgot the "G",I'm 'just saying' too.I realized later that I'd forgotten Antarctica and Europe.Was going to return and add them but they were NOT my point.My point has been stated over and over and 'the dope' part refuses to concede that North,and South America are 2 Different Continents,ELMORON with the 5 Rings threw me off.Reminds me of an ex-wife,who could never be wrong,when backed into a corner,and about to be wrong,she would change the subject.cont
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@billy1212ist United States of "AMERICA" u stupid imbecile back then they didnt know 2 plates separated the continents.. so it was 1.. known as 1 so thats why Columbus gets the credit.. not every1 else that followed him
tizona101 3 months ago
@tizona101 -Wow ! Plate tectonics,sure that's it,so it was one big Continent,ah boy you really are smart.And me,.....well,I am a moron imbecile for not realizing your grasp of geography and history .Your are really quite profound.YEP,YOU taught me,and allot of people much,thank You for your instruction.I am awed by your smarts.Bye.and we all thank you.
billy1212ist 3 months ago
@pdlussier -cont...............This "tizona101" finally shut up with all of the ridiculous America was 1 Continent crap,mixing up the Americas with Continents,so to ELMORON with the 5 rings.And why celebrate in the USA.They also are and were in the USA miss taught.But for a reason The USA imported a New Irish working class,and they had Saint Patty's Day,to"FEEL" American.Then the ITALIAN working class needed a day too,hence"Christopher C.",all these facts are there,hit Google and you got it.NUTZ
billy1212ist 3 months ago
Este holocuasto se quiere callar ...españa no lo acepta .... y aun siguen llegando a nuestras tierras como depredadores ..esta vez consumiendo sexoturismo
canchanel 7 months ago
Never knew about this movie. Thx for the upload, will look out for it =) !
belmontsmild 7 months ago
the movie wasn't that exciting ...just stereotyping natives ...not teaching about their culture, and something about bringing them to Europe...music is good tho
publiccable 7 months ago
The Middle Age was finished, when prof. de Arojaz was shocked...
historianus33 8 months ago
The photo and the music!! What a treasure!! Excellent job !! Thank you !!!
LemmyDecaution 8 months ago
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@bohemianwriter1 I just realized this was the whole dispute caused by him reading your post and me attacking his claim. lols You will be glad to know that he has resorted to name calling and seems unable to find any evidence to support his case. Meanwhile I found a vast multitude of evidence supporting mine.
1426305384950384 8 months ago
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@mrshutter77 What I find sad is that you attempt to hide your lack of an actually logical argument by attack me personally through a barrage of insults. Luckily your attempts are so see through that any person will intelligence will see through them. Do I need to point out that you have not shown any evidence supporting your claims.
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1426305384950384 8 months ago
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"Actually it does, a dumb 18 year old raised by a jingle mommie is never to be taken seriously on anything" How could It discredit my evidence. I am just quoting things that other people have written.
"Maybe your dumb 18 year old ass need to work on his grammer skills because writing stupid sentences like this again!" do you really want to go there. Do you realize how many typing and grammar (let alone spelling) mistakes you have made.