@rgaleny in 1982 the synclavier sounds were all Chowning FM, very transparent, 'thin' sounds. he was writing music on paper to be performed; the most complex thing on this album is Envelopes, which for sure is a score he wrote on paper - as he had done since around 1954 - which eventually was performed with Kent Nagano directing LSO. It isn't likely that he was taking the time to type-input whole scores AND write out on paper what he was showing the band which was performing most of this by 1981
@rgaleny in 1982 the synclavier sounds were all Chowning FM, very transparent, 'thin' sounds. he was writing music on paper to be performed; the most complex thing on this album is Envelopes, which for sure is a score he wrote on paper - as he had done since around 1954 - which eventually was performed with Kent Nagano directing LSO. It isn't likely that he was taking the time to type-input whole scores AND write out on paper what he was showing the band which was performing most of this by 1981
arthur barrow plays bass in the 1st half, patrick o'hearn plays bass in the 2nd half, apples and oranges complimenting each other perfectly. frank was a genius.
One of my favorites.... Wore out my cassette in '84 and haven't heard it since... Thanks for posting it.... song changes keys as I got older... doesn't sound the same to me.... haaaaaaaaaaaa
rgaleny -- i think you'll find this was a live studio jam/recording (drums & guitar) with the bass and vocals added later. there are two bass parts on this, the main part by Arthur Barrow and overdubs by Patrick O'Hearn on the tail-out of the solo. This predates the Synclavier stuff by about 4 years. Bob Harris did the vocals.
first he scored the idea on the machine and gave the scores to the musicians and played a prototype from the machine to give them a feel. then he either took it on the road and recorded a practiced performance to re master in the studio, or he rehursed
and recorded it in the studio and added layers and touches to it with the machine. It's a production hybrid this way.
@rgaleny no, with rock tunes he taught the band the basic ideas and worked an arrangement with the band. so one band's version will be different owing to the personnel, at least somewhat. half of this is a live jam in the studio. Drowning Witch was live and edited for a hybrid version. He wrote the music for Drowning Witch on paper and had it copied for this band. a lot of things that appear in the final version are not in the original sheet music. I have copies of it.
I love the minimalist art of the album cover. It's like a zen koan, or something. This whole album gives you a feel for what the synclavier can do orchestraly. I was always amazed at what statements he could set to music. But then I got into the instrumental sections for themselves. It broadened my horizons of taste. Valley Girl seems out of place here. I imagine all the folks who bought this album just for that. The album is complex where TINK WALKS AMOK contrasts in it's simplicity.
Zappa usually gave the atonal stuff to the instruments. This is an atonal aria. This whole album cleans the mental taste buds. I wouldn't want to hear this song at a wedding, but that's not what it's for. The lyrics are hard to hear. This song insults the banal. It makes punk look like it's not even trying to piss in your face. It's such a Synclavier composition. I mean, try programming it on a drum machine. The lead follows the verses and outdoes them in feel. Free pencil, anyone?
this, I assume, was before the extreme jazz influences
ZombiesWerePeopleToo 1 month ago
Awesome, Steve vai credited as impossible guitar haha
superiormusicman 1 month ago
<3 Roy Ralph Moleman Guacamole Guadalupe Hidalgo Estrada..
zretaw 3 months ago
i grew with it, the verse is odd. the solo did it
waveydavey100 3 months ago
A melted song. Fantastic. Frank is enormous.
djdjany 4 months ago
@rgaleny in 1982 the synclavier sounds were all Chowning FM, very transparent, 'thin' sounds. he was writing music on paper to be performed; the most complex thing on this album is Envelopes, which for sure is a score he wrote on paper - as he had done since around 1954 - which eventually was performed with Kent Nagano directing LSO. It isn't likely that he was taking the time to type-input whole scores AND write out on paper what he was showing the band which was performing most of this by 1981
jancivil 4 months ago
@rgaleny in 1982 the synclavier sounds were all Chowning FM, very transparent, 'thin' sounds. he was writing music on paper to be performed; the most complex thing on this album is Envelopes, which for sure is a score he wrote on paper - as he had done since around 1954 - which eventually was performed with Kent Nagano directing LSO. It isn't likely that he was taking the time to type-input whole scores AND write out on paper what he was showing the band which was performing most of this by 1981
jancivil 4 months ago
arthur barrow plays bass in the 1st half, patrick o'hearn plays bass in the 2nd half, apples and oranges complimenting each other perfectly. frank was a genius.
feralmusic 5 months ago
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the best part of the song starts at 3:01
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TracyAndersonFoxhunt 6 months ago
I SAID! -THIS SONG IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO SHOULDNT SMOKE POT.
GOING NOWHERE HAS NEVER BEEN SO AMAZING.... WAITING FOR NOTHING TO HAPPEN....CAN I HAVE MORE NOTHING SIR/ PLEASE? OLIVER TWIST ONE UP...
A LIVER......HARDLY.
noodlesmealey 7 months ago
this song is about potheads..
noodlesmealey 8 months ago
great guitar and bass
speedoflife7 9 months ago
One of my favorites.... Wore out my cassette in '84 and haven't heard it since... Thanks for posting it.... song changes keys as I got older... doesn't sound the same to me.... haaaaaaaaaaaa
Landotter1 10 months ago 7
Isn't that the same synth sound that they used for the Safety Dance?
DimensionsofChange 11 months ago
rgaleny -- i think you'll find this was a live studio jam/recording (drums & guitar) with the bass and vocals added later. there are two bass parts on this, the main part by Arthur Barrow and overdubs by Patrick O'Hearn on the tail-out of the solo. This predates the Synclavier stuff by about 4 years. Bob Harris did the vocals.
DouglasWatts 11 months ago 2
@DouglasWatts Thank you.
rgaleny 8 months ago
first he scored the idea on the machine and gave the scores to the musicians and played a prototype from the machine to give them a feel. then he either took it on the road and recorded a practiced performance to re master in the studio, or he rehursed
and recorded it in the studio and added layers and touches to it with the machine. It's a production hybrid this way.
rgaleny 1 year ago
@rgaleny no, with rock tunes he taught the band the basic ideas and worked an arrangement with the band. so one band's version will be different owing to the personnel, at least somewhat. half of this is a live jam in the studio. Drowning Witch was live and edited for a hybrid version. He wrote the music for Drowning Witch on paper and had it copied for this band. a lot of things that appear in the final version are not in the original sheet music. I have copies of it.
jancivil 4 months ago
@jancivil Thank you. I like getting notes on his operation modes.
rgaleny 4 months ago
this was worked out on a computer.
rgaleny 1 year ago
Zappa is the best............period !
The1belal 1 year ago
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The1belal 1 year ago
@The1belal dude, you should probably take your number down and message it, that was a fucking stupid thing to do.
denfigueroa 1 year ago
I attended the Frankfurt (Germany) concert of the Shiup arriving too late tour..It was such a great event....thx for upload
Bummelz 1 year ago
Really! nobody but nobody had a synclavier in 1982. Afterwards, it made hop hop possible.
rgaleny 1 year ago
I love the minimalist art of the album cover. It's like a zen koan, or something. This whole album gives you a feel for what the synclavier can do orchestraly. I was always amazed at what statements he could set to music. But then I got into the instrumental sections for themselves. It broadened my horizons of taste. Valley Girl seems out of place here. I imagine all the folks who bought this album just for that. The album is complex where TINK WALKS AMOK contrasts in it's simplicity.
rgaleny 1 year ago
@rgaleny This was played by a real band.
MrMariodave 1 year ago 6
Zappa usually gave the atonal stuff to the instruments. This is an atonal aria. This whole album cleans the mental taste buds. I wouldn't want to hear this song at a wedding, but that's not what it's for. The lyrics are hard to hear. This song insults the banal. It makes punk look like it's not even trying to piss in your face. It's such a Synclavier composition. I mean, try programming it on a drum machine. The lead follows the verses and outdoes them in feel. Free pencil, anyone?
rgaleny 1 year ago