UMvC3 - 988k Meter Positive Rocky/Ammy DHC

[Im2Godlike]

I need help learning the rocket raccoons boulder loop any tips?

[maxspecs]

And I thought Trish was "bouncy" before...

[DJKyu]

XD And you said you were bad at the boulder loop. Pffft, whatever dawg :p

[Bmeister42]

@DJKyu I magically learned it overnight

[UltimegaSeven]

Brace yourselfs.

The patches are coming.

[Mattwi]

@UltimegaSeven yeah your so right they are going to nerf rocket racoon and ammy cause there on every team. wait no nevermind thats wesker (insert sarcasm here)

[Stammer6]

@Mattwi I'd halfway be willing to bet they're going to nerf Rocket Raccoon before they nerf Wesker.

This is seriously impressive. A lot of damage for a meter-POSITIVE combo. Though truthfully it looks easy to screw up, so it's probably somewhat impractical. Overall it's a very swagger combo.

[Mattwi]

@Stammer6 yeah no.

[Stammer6]

@Mattwi I've seen similar things with Japanese companies before. They'll often pick one thing they really like (in this case, a character) and make them overpowered. And then with every patch you'd expect them to be nerfed, but instead everything else gets nerfed and the already-overpowered character gets even stronger.

What I said was halfway a joke (in that "wouldn't it be funny if--") and halfway serious (in that "I'd put money on them doing that").

[Cobrakun12]

I got some difficulty hitting the Ammy Glaive ich, ni, san, shi stuff. Do you have to mash it out like in reflector mode, or is there specific timing for it?

[Bmeister42]

@Cobrakun12 It's tighter than the reflector one, but you can still get away with mashing it

[whathwat]

wtf



[Carls493]

To make long combos, ALL YOU NEED IS A RACCOON!

[ciddatech]

I thought they nerfed Ammy's j.H full charge Glaive? Was that just an unconfirmed rumor proved wrong?

[Bmeister42]

@ciddatech It doesn't work in H&H mode because that mode sucks and is glitchy as hell, but it works fine in the normal game.

[ciddatech]

@Bmeister42 Oh okay. Good to know. Thank you. =D

[Antiximo]

@Bmeister42 - I've literally never touched Rocky before, what exactly are you doing in the beginning that is looping. There's no way it's as easy as it looks.

[Bmeister42]

@Antiximo Ground bounce>boulder trap>dash>launcher>TK boulder trap>dash>launch>etc.

It's harder than it looks, but the difficulty is really overrated.

[OOOOOOOOOOOHAI]

I laugh too hard when you use Rocky.

[Lerasaur]

This is like godsend to me, as I myself use amaterasu, firebrand, rr

[Boodendorf]

Was wondering, couldn't you have ended the combo with Ammy's 236 hyper after the log trap assist for more damages?

[Bmeister42]

@Boodendorf You can do j.[H] into power slash to end it with shuffle for a bit more damage, but then it isn't meter positive. Okami shuffle does meh damage as well, so it isn't a huge increase (About 50-60k over the 6HHHH ender)

[Boodendorf]

@Bmeister42 I see, guess it would be to finish the opponent then.

[ThaOriginChu]

@Bmeister42 Wait what about ammy's lv 3 for kicks? cuz I am pretty sure her lv 3 is set damage regardless of previous hits.

[thePRODIGYm]

Maybe*

[thePRODIGYm]

Kk just thought mabey the bolder trap would hit first and then they land on the mad hopper giving it enough time. And the damage wasnt fully scaled so the charged j.Hs would do more damage then what they were doin there

[dfactory]

Great tech!

[thePRODIGYm]

Or do the recover just to quickly

[thePRODIGYm]

Would you have beenable to do this combo with the mad hopper ultra and get less hit stun deterieration and more damage?

[Bmeister42]

@thePRODIGYm Hitstun is scaled back as far as it can get by that point, and Mad Hopper doesn't have enough stun to let Ammy switch to glaive and get the charged j.Hs (at least as far as I know)

Nemesis Stabil- I mean Rock n' Roll adds significantly more damage by that point

[Surferbro74]

O_O mind = blown

FLASHY STUFF AMMY !!! wow

[OtogiMatsuri]

Too sick. I wonder if ending the loop with an SJC'd Log Trap after the final launcher would affect the hitstun scaling. If not, that's potentially more damage.

[Bmeister42]

@OtogiMatsuri If you cut the loop short, then yeah you can do that. I think you get 8 or 9 reps in then do the log trap j.S bear trap super. Problem is, then I don't get a wallbounce for the Ammy extension, so it does less damage overall.

For a solo combo though, it's definitely the way to go.

[OtogiMatsuri]

@Bmeister42

Ah, I see, thanks, that's good to know! Now, if only I could at least do more than 3 reps loop midscreen, or find an assist that'll help me pull it off, then I could get some good midscreen damage with RR too.

[eternal0star]

Or you could just pick Wesker and get this without even switching or having to have half the number of potential spots to drop the combo. ;p

[Bmeister42]

@eternal0star Yeah, but Wesker is overrated and gets zoned by half the cast.

Plus, hitting buttons is fun. Combos aren't fun if I'm not breaking my wrist to do it.

[Stammer6]

I love Rocket Raccoon, but it's only now, two months after this game came out that I've really started seeing awesome stuff with him. How do you do the Angel's Gift loop? Is it as simple as hitting it, dashing in, hitting it again, repeat?

[Bmeister42]

@Stammer6 You have to get a ground bounce off the bear trap, lay a boulder trap, wait for it to activate, then dash forward and do launcher and TK a boulder trap off of it, then dash in and repeat. It seems hard at first but once you get the timing down its honestly not too hard to do consistently.

[Stammer6]

@Bmeister42 Thanks!

[DML897]

I assume that the boulder trap loop would have deteriorated and thats why you DHCed? I thought RR could do it forever but Im probably wrong.

[Bmeister42]

@DML897 You can only get a max of 10 reps, maybe a few less depending on the combo beforehand.

[jhvidst2]

Just wait till I finish my vid on RR unblockables. You'll have some great ammo then.

Awesome combo btw, I can see a lot of potential in this pairing, even if I'm only 50/50 with the boulder loop right now.

[Bmeister42]

@jhvidst2 Cool, can't wait. I've always been crap at figuring out resets, that's why I try to max my damage as much as possible.

And yeah, this pairing is pretty godlike. Ammy with log trap assist has no blindspots, and it gives her some great combo extensions, Rocky with Cold Star gets easy crossup mixups, and if they block it its a free boulder trap>unblockable.

[jhvidst2]

@Bmeister42 A lot of my setups are similar, the big difference is I've been using Sentinel for it's anti-tech roll properties, but your vid has made me go see if I can work it with Ammy.

But with your team, when your doing 1000k, resets seem less important. What are you doing about the Air-to-Air issue out of curiosity. That's the biggest puzzle I can't really solve with the Coon. I've been using Dante.

[Bmeister42]

@jhvidst2 Resets don't matter as much when I get optimal hitconfirms, but that isn't always possible. I also love me some support supers (Veil of Mist, Spring and Stalking Flare) so I prefer saving meter when I can.

For air to air with rocky I'm mostly just doing sj.S rocket skates down S. Once you get the timing down, you can land a full combo from sj height and the hitbox is amazing (beats Wesker j.S, pizza cutter and wolverine dive if you space it right).

[assassin4than]

Ammy is so useful with everyone :3

[cmanoa]

Playing Rocket Raccoon AND Amaterasu? Who does that?

[Bmeister42]

@cmanoa Says the Leona player

[DJKyu]

@cmanoa I do

[Devhawk124]

Could you have ended with a super?

[Bmeister42]

@Devhawk124 If you really want to, yeah. The problem is that Okami Shuffle does crap damage, and you can't really do much to combo into it outside of cancelling the last charged j.H (They flip out of Glaive Chop at that point, and you don't have enough time to charge thunder edge). Because of that, you're basically doing 50k more than the 6HHHH ender, but you're spending meter, so it isn't really worth it.

Ending it with paper>Lv3 earns you a ton of style points though.

[xprtsniper]

Inputs please

[Bmeister42]

@xprtsniper Sorry, messed up the last one:

2H 6H 5S j.MS 623M 214L [66 5S 2147L]x10 236LM 214LM

j.[H]x4 6HHH~A1~H j.[H] 6HHH~A2~H j.[H] 6HHHH

[chaserthewolf]

Lmao, didn't know that boulder trap loop could last that long.

But how long does it normally take until the loop stops generating damage?

[Bmeister42]

@chaserthewolf 10 reps off a standard hitconfirm straight into it. The loop itself will always do decent damage, even when scaled back as much as possible, you just end up hitting a point where hitstun scaling says "No" and they flip out of your launcher.

[brunossbb]

ah, those holy traps....

[Shockeled]

You're amazing at this game... Do you go to any tournaments? If not you should.

[Bmeister42]

@Shockeled I go to pretty much every local tournament that I can, and I was also at Canada Cup last year.

Planning on hitting up at least a couple of majors this year (assuming I have the cash to do so)

[Kombine047]

Further proof that Rocket and Ammy are BFFs.

[Bmeister42]

@Kombine047 Woodland Friends Forever

[ArtificialFlavaFTB2]

Lol omg. But yeah, I don't like how all the maybe more difficult characters to play have lower damage, like Chunli for example.

High exection brings low dmg

Low exection brings high damage.

Thats capcom logic for ya

[TheAeroTurtle]

It's always the low damage ones we gotta keep an eye on.

/goes to do boulder trap loop.

:|

[AxleIsBored]

the day i see that done in a match.... good god....

[Bmeister42]

@AxleIsBored I'll be posting up some of my offline sessions soon (as soon as youtube stops rejecting them anyways...). You'll see this kind of stuff in matches then

[xXBroJacKsoNXx]

i liked the part where he used boulder trap

[twinblademasta]

Low damage characters my ass