The thing i hate about Raj thackeray is when he talks about Youth of Maharashtra,he talks about Marathi youth and not all the youth who were born to tax payer families here of all origin.
We need someone like Raj (villain) to make the government work... I think we have had enough of the scams and a lot of money has been lost, thanks to INC/NCP/BSP/DMK etc... People need hope and Raj seems to give it... He must change his agenda though...
@ vkdentertaintment666: are Mitraa... Mee pan Raj Thackeray hyanchaa motha chahtaa aahe...Krupaya Gairsamaj karun gheu nakos..Raj Thackeray Zindabaad...Raj saaahab aage badho,,Anna Hazaare se bhi......jo ki abhi limelight me hai....:)
i kind of agree with raj thackrey. I have always opposed him, but he made sense here. But i still dont understand the violence & breaking of taxi windscreens and beating non marathi taxi drivers. If the marathi youth wants to drive a taxi, who is stopping him? if an outsider doesnt speak marathi, he is not harming the marathi culture. how does it matter if it is called mumbai or bombay? raj can be a great leader if he shuns violence. Ur strength shud be in your ideas not in violence.
UP & Bihar are the worst regions on earth. Really, they are highly populated,they are highly criminal, they are far poor. If there were no UP & Bihar in India, India would be ahead of china.
@akshayboraste Chutia, if there were no migrants, Maharashtra would have been worse than Bihar. Understand that you MADERCHOOD marathi manoos bahinchood
@gaju001 tar marathi bhasha kai ulti ahe ka re bhaitya.............tu raj sahebancha adar pan manto ani tyanchi vitambana pan kartos kai.....mumbai madhe rahato tu ..........amhala kai mahit nahi ka re bhaitya....gapchup ithe pot bhar........ha ek punkari hoti raj sainik chi ugach vakdyat jau nakos alai tikdech sampsil........jai manse........raj sahebancha vijay aso.......
Wow. Goswami is an amazingly bad interviewer. Thackeray has made his views amply clear since the beginning. You would think Goswami would have done research properly, and find smarter ways to ask his questions. Idiot. Obviously, Thackeray is wiping the floor with him. "Violence begets violence Raj". Like he doesn't know that. preachy idiot. Hard question dude, find some.
I agree on some issues of raj thackrey!!But migration is good for the economy of a state provided the migration is of well educated and innovative people!!If all the poor people and farmers leave villages and start coming to cities for a better life then over all standard of living of the people and that of the state reduces and the state or the province may progress slowly!!Hence it is very essential that the population explosion that is occurring in UP and Bihar should be controlled!!
This man definitely is driving the moral and ethical standards down by a century, with his facist agenda. Why is he just always angry about migrants? I think his agenda would have been a lot better if he said, he would empower the 'allegedlly oppressed' marati workforce by improving their educational standards and making them competent in the job market, rather than going after the blood of competent migrant workers.
@dawnstardhruv ...dear aai ghalya, tu khud apni ma ki boli lagata hoga! ye kahte hue bhi mujhe ghin ati hai tumhari!khabardar agar iske age kuch faltu ki baat ki!
i m shocked after seeing so much people supporting this son of a whore...
tell me how many poor marathi people actually get benefit from his strategy...
why the people dont understand he is not a social worker but a dirty minded politician and he can also divide the country for the sake of himself not for marathis, and tell u this will not effect india but will effect the maharashtrian people..
this guy drives audi Q7, Has 2 gradan dogs, Kohinoor mill ani kithi sampathi... ha manus kashala kahi karat nahi poor marathi mannos sathi..vidharba madhey kiti farmer sucide kartat...tikde kahi hi nai karnar..fakt mumbai madhey note chapaycha ahe hyana...waanabe Balasaheb...
@TheSam7866 Hello Mr.whosoever u r.. I totally disagree on your point...!!! Please look into more information on Mananiya Raj Thackeray, nd thus his followers will increase...!!! He's a man of worth, he's a new face of maharashtra politics..!! Ani jarka nota chapaichya astil na, tar itar khup dhande ahet je pawar, shinde etc.loka kartaat.. Saheb nahi..!!!
@pakijihadi..islam is the most stupid religion in the world..the fucking muslim following some kuran which is result of some asshole muhommad who fucked his own daughter....
Raj Thakre is a great human being.The real bastards are Rajput,christian,bengloli,gurjaratee,panjabi,jatt,UP hindu cocksuckers.Raj Thakre destroy all north south east and west india hindu devil Kufrs and make Marthi people free like Pakistanis.Marshtra was a part of Mughal empire. Marshtra will rejoin their Muslim bros and become a province of Pakistan. Shivarji's wife was fucked by Afzal Khan many times,she was his personal whore.Allah Hu Akbar. Raj Thakre,Ibrahim Dawood&Pakistan Zindabad.
Women are wearing almost no clothes. Men and women eating pork, drinking alcohol, praying to false God. The earth will be destroyed unless all mankind embraces Islam, accepts Muhammed pbuh as the last Prophet of Allah who was such a great man Allah gave him special permision to enjoy sex with 5 year old Aisha because Allah wanted Muhammed pbuh to enjoy fresh virgin meat. Muslims will get sex with 72 virgins in Heaven. Its a matter of time before all of India accepts Islam.Pakistan Zindabad.
@paki jihadi - there's a reason my land is called as HINDUSTAN ...the marathas ,rajputs, sikhs defended my land from the islam mughols..and thats the way's its gonna be...fully islamic states as urs are in the worst possible case jus because of the allah worshippin shit and ur shitty fictional book...lol..kill innocent people and have sex wid 5 year old?? bhenchod...isko religion bolte ho...love hinduism and proud of it!!!! jai hind
The people from other states are talking so much againts Raj as they dont have things happing as in Maharashtra where in the local peopel doesnt even come to know about Job apportunites .. its not about deviding nation ,, its about basic rights of people from their own soil... and eventhough Raj's way of doing things may not be acceptible but thats how it works for people who dont understand talks
Many many UP /bihar labours who work in Mumbai also understand Marathi but still due to MNS goonda gardi they are made target due to their helpless and poor status. And whatever this person is advocating is totally against the law.
Wrong. Arnab can understand Marathi even though he is not maharashtrian by origin - which is why he can smoothly talk with raj here. That is what is expected of migrants - every person should adopt the culture of the region. Preserving culture is not just the responsibility of the ethnic locals.
@gatesrocks And let me get to core of the issue: Bombay needs more employment, less people (can be less bhaiyas), better facilities, drinking water, better roads, good education - NONE OF THIS HAS GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING MARATHI MANOOS. Get this right. You dont believe me, check out "Anti Indian" videos of Pakis. You guys (sorry) behave same way. For all your problems, BLAME fucking someone else. You should be glad that Bhaiyas do the fucking "odd jobs" that most Marathis will NEVER do.
What Bombay needs as a city is just a different issue. I just don't buy the crap that just coz Bombay infrastructure is limited that we don' allow migrants. That's silly. My objection is to the narrow point of being in a place for three decades and living there as a foreigner trying to make your buck, partaking its beauty while being conveniently insensitive to the social cultural issues plaguing that place. No laws against that. But it is just not nice
@gatesrocks Preserving culture is the responsibility of the "Ethnic Locals" in any society. What is your take on locals doing "Matka", "Dance Bars", "Gang wars", "Hate Crime" etc. What culture do they promote? Just coz I live in Vatican city, does not mean that I HAVE to become Pope. You gotta be kidding me if u say yes. Moreover, where di you say u r from? Bombay or Saudi????? I am sorry, did you say Bombay???????
heyyy r u mad this man can change maharashtra n have the potenttial to do soo n u idiots dis not only 4 maharashtrians bt also 4 common plpe of maharashtra this man is not insane he never tld plpe to go n fight on road he said dat jus go against north indians its v go take him dat way
In a report released by the BMC, 50% of people in Mumbai are migrants out of which UP accounts for 25% of the migrants - the highest. next are Gujjus with 9.6%. 50% of the city lives in slums, another 20-30% lives in crubling chawls "Migration is becoming major cause of concern taking into consideration the limited availability of resources to accommodate them. But there is no solution to curb the influx, at least in the near future," it said
@gatesrocks My friend I agree & let me assure u that 100% of the industrialists are also Migrants. TATA, Birla, Ambani, Mallya, Mahendra, Goyal etc etc. Dont forget the film industry. Dont spread hate against migrants as Bombay without the migrants is just another city. I also agree with you (despite being a UP born) that YES there are far too many people from UP and Bihar in city. But then if they go away, who will do the odd jobs? Punish the guilty and dont hate your owne countrymen. Jai Hind
This is the problem I have with such views. Every time a legitimate concern is raised, you say - don't spread hate. You wrongly make me look communal AND you confuse the issue. Everyone should be welcome everywhere. But wherever you live, adopt the language and culture of the region. 90% of the people from UP/Bihar, wherever they go, cannot speak a word of the local language. This attitude should change. Empathy for someone's culture should spread both ways. It is not one way.
@gatesrocks Listen Marathi Manoos, Hindi is the national language and we know it. There are 16 National language and 800 Dialects. If a person moves from region to region then it is NOT important for him to learn the languaues. Marathi is NOT above India. Your attitude should change before you turn Bombay to another Calcutta and Gujrat becomes Commercial Centre.
Wrong! And its about time that you get educated. Hindi is NOT the national language. It is an official language - just like Marathi or Bengali. The fact that's its spoken more widely doesn't make it more national. You are no more national than I am. Why is it not important to him? Is language only about convenience for you? Go somewhere, make your money and come back? Language represents the culture of the region. By speaking the local language, you adopt the local culture.
@gatesrocks I am so glad that I am having exchanging communication with someone who is ACTUALLY educated. I have read the constitution and hence I would tell you that you are part correct. Hindi is NOT the national language (if you read the constitution). But then, there was a subsequent amendment (dont remember which one) which "described" Hindi to be the one; you still got a point (not many know this) and hats off "Marathi Manoos". In any case, Hindi has been "adapted" to be "the" language
@gatesrocks Marathi Manoos, I lived in BOM for 10 years & LOVED it. Dont know anything in Marathi language but was always accepted by all. However, I could see the hate in people for Bhaiyas. Unfortunate for MOST people I was well placed in society and hence had my way or else no respect for Bhaiyas (Yes). NOW: I moved to UK (they ruled us) and the amount of respect as an Individual I got was amazing. I used to think they are racists. What did I learn; we Indians are BIGGEST fucking racists.
And if everyone does according to what he or she feels convenient, by that logic, all regional languages should perish and only Hindi should survive? Is that what you want? You propagate a culture by doing it, by speaking it and trying to [preserve customs and traditions. Unity in Diversity - that's what Nehru said. Adopt Marathi as if it were your own because we are also part of India. Otherwise the efforts of artists who have contributed to regional culture, will all die
@gatesrocks You got it sooooo wrong my friend. Since WHEN did customs & tradition become personal property of Marathi’s? Shivaji Maharaj is NATIONAL icon & we ALL are proud of him. Lord Ram (born in UP) is NOT private property or Bhaiyas, we all Hindus worship him. Parliament is in Delhi but all Indians can participate. Understand that you are not the ONLY one worried about culture getting lost, others are too AND others (UP or Bihar) also have culture it is not that ONLY Marathis have culture.
No it may not be private property but believe me, Marathi literary culture is dying. And so its the responsibility of ALL Indians to protect it, ESPECIALLY the ones who live here. UP and Bihar culture dosen't need to be protected today because there are just so many of you. Its not an immediate emergency. Butwhat is happening in Mumbai is that it is flooded with migrants. Which is ok! Economic migration is a reliaty, But if migrants cannot adapt,
@gatesrocks In the end, let me tell you. You are TOTALLY on a different tangent (like Muslims say Islam is uner threat). Issue here is NOT that Bhaiyas are not speaking Marathi. Actually Bhaiyas are soft target for people like Raj & Bala. Issue here is (I agree with Raj & Bala) that Bombay is way too crowded & less jobs due Bhaiyas. contd.....2
You are right. Bhaiyyas are soft targets because most are poor - that's a truth. But there is another truth floating out there - that Bhaiyyas can't speak Marathi after living for 30-35 years. That is worrying. Get rid of the second and you won't have retards like Raj Thackeray trying to beat up taxi drivers. Don't give them an opportunity for them to do vote bank politics.
@gatesrocks Arre mere Bhai. WHAT will you achieve if Bhaiya speaks Marathi & WHO told you Bhaiya's do not speak Marathi (u are mistaken). If Bhaiya's start speaking Marathi, will Marathi's get more jobs, better roads, hospitals etc? Noooo. Only 3 things need to be done 1) Create suttle entry barrier in Bombay 2) Create Jobs for loacls (who gives a shit marathi or not) 3) Make this city the best place to live in the world. NONE of the big cities in world are made by Raj's way - TRUST ME.
eventually the locals would be squeezed out. Fewer people will know the laguage and that would be the end. The efforts of so many authors and literary artists will be laid to absolute waste. No one will read them ever. sad. Not just true of Maharashtra, but also some states like Goa. The Goan culture is also dying and more so due to migration than the Mumbai problem
@gatesrocks ...2 What can anyone do? Sad state of our country. Do you even know how many MILLION Bangladeshis have come in UP & Bihar & taken away jobs? State Govt under pressure from Centre to let Bangladeshi Mislims stay as they in future will VOTE. Get up from your state and see what the country is going through. Wake up dude. As a city, I feel sad for Bombay and abuse (yes) that too many slum people have moved in - what do i do - kill them? Did any Bangladeshi get killed in UP / Bihar - NO.
@gatesrocks Why do Marathis feel so threatened???? Who on the earth has EVER even dreamt of stopping ANY person for practising their culture, tradition or language in India? If you want to maintain your culture, please do so. I (& all Indians) reserve and DEFEND our right to practise my culture, religion and language irrespective of which part of the INDIA I live in. Simple. Just coz you go to Tamilnadu, it does not mean that you should be FORCED to speak Tamil - dont speak, talk in English.
@TheArunsingh1 There are a lakh persons moving into Mumbai almost every month (mostly from UP/Bihar) and none of them are ever going to make an attempt to learn the language. You're still not listening. No one is stopping from practicing YOUR culture. But adopt other cultures too. Is that so hard esp if you lived there for three decades? Rajnikanth is a Marathi, moved to TN as a teenager, now speaks fluent Tamil and considers himself TAMIL! That's called national integration!!!!
@gatesrocks U are talking about Empathy, tell me WHO runs underworld in BOM? Which community has max crime rate? Ask Raj / Bal Thackeray to go & shout slogans like this for Muslims. Do they or U have guts? They will chop their balls off & have it for dinner. Morevoer, it is all vote politics and both Raj & Bala need Muslim votes. Have you EVER heard anoyone of them attacking muslims? Biggest underworld dons, Dawood, Arun Gawli, Chota Rajan, Haji Mastan, Karim Lala etc - how many from UP / Bihar?
It may or may not be vote bank politics. I am not a fan of Raj Thackeray if he beats up people. I don't care about the underworld. My point is extremely simple - wherever you go, adopt the culture of the region. If you live in Mumbai for 35 years and cannot speak a word of Marathi, then you are trying to spread hatred by sending a message to the locals - I am here to make money, for a job. You speak my language. I don't care about Marathi language, folk culture or history!
@gatesrocks Okkkk. and since when did speaking a language bome symbol of respect? Marathis, Gujratis, Sindhis, Muslims, Chriatians, Parsis, Tamil etc etc all live in India for their entire LIFE and hence they all should SPEAK, READ and WRITE hindi. No, thats not the case as in India there is Freedom - this is Not Saudi, this is India my friend. India comes first and then a state. If Hindi is not enforced on all Indians then local language is secondary. Get that right and no confusions
You are missing the point. Speaking Marathi dosen't have to be at cost of Hindi. I will fight as much as for the Hindi as I will for the Marathi because I am Indian. But Hindi dosen't require protection. Its Marathi because fewer people are speaking it. You are right - you have the legal freedom to not speak Marathi. But this isn't about legalities, is it? You have the legal right to spit on the street too? But there is a long term cost you will pay for it. The cost is..
The cost is that Marathi will eventually die out. And you see that happening. So as an Indian, YOU (as much as the local) have a moral (not legal) obligation to protect it through use and practice. I should not have to force people to speak Marathi like Raj Tahckeray does. You should know it yourself because you are an Indian FIRST and so you are about not only Hindi, but also Marathi and Tamil. If you don't then you are implicitly dividing the country.
@gatesrocks Dost, Marathi may die out; not because of Bhaiyas or Muslims NOT speaking Marathi (ask Raj to enforce Marathi in Kurla - lol, he will be beheaded). Marathis will die out IF they leave their roots (which is happening). Why the hell r u a scared chickens? Ever heard about Jews / Parsis? They dont give chicken shit to what language people around them speak? Go to Israel, Jews r SURROUNDED by muslims but they stick to what they want 2 do. Issue: Marathis NOT respecting their own culture.
Absolutely not. Marathis are as much responsible as the Bhaiya. (btw many Muslims speak excellent Marathi - go to the coastal areas). You should not enforce anything. But if it comes to a point where you see nothing but eventual death of a culture in the future, then you will have a Thackeray trying to address the issue in his own crude way. You may not like it. But it will happen. But Marathis at least speak Marathi, so there is an implicit check. Most Bhaiya can't speak a word
1) Does not matter where you live - u are responsible ONLY for your culture & not the place u live in. Do you mean to suggest that when U move to Dubai you will adapt Islam or learn Urdu & fight for muslims - WRONG?
2) Protecting Marathi culture is responsibility of Marathi Manoos. Ex Parsi is reponsible for his culture & does not go fighting for his culture to others.
2) Dont tell me what Muslims are & what they respect. Most guys are just TOO scared to admit.
Says who? You have a moral obligation to adopt the culture you live in. And language is a central part of the culture. You don't have to change your religion if you move to dubai. Just like you don't have to give up Hindi to speak Marathi. But you do have to be able to speak Arabic if you intend to settle there for the rest of your life. Otherwise everyone will go to Dubai, become 90% of the population and yet not be held responsible for Dubai culture.
@gatesrocks Just saw your message on "Moral Obligation". Ha ha. R you "Moral" police of India? And who told you that in Dubai you can survive ONLY if you know Arabic ? WTF? I now live in a country where I dont UNDERSTAND a shit of what they say and they are just FINE with it. They dont feel threatened with it. It is YOUR job to teach YOUR language to YOUR kids and not anyone elses. You are all mixed up buddy. Focus on real problem in BOM. Is it TOOO many people & lack of proper infrastructure
Protecting Marathi culture is not the responsibility of ONLY Marathis. But also other communities living there. Did you not say that we are Indians FIRST? Yes. Is Marathi not a part of India? Yes. Is Marathi not dying? Yes. So if a culture is dying, being an Indian FIRST, should we not concerned as all Indians that a culture is dying. And esp so if you live in the same city. If you go to Dubai and see a fire burning, are you going to say: It is the Arab's problem and not yours?
@gatesrocks Sirji, I agree wz Dubai stuff. Trust me it pains when I see screw up in BOM. Let me ask u a simple question (forget Bhaiyas & culture for a min). Have u travelled from Marol to Saki Naka? I have commuted on that road for 10 years on & off. I own a BMW in BOM & CURSE that road. Now, who made that road? Migrants? No. Your own culture people. Bad administrative control. Issue is NOT migrant but BAD administration. Till the time admin is not brought under control, all this will happen.
@gatesrocks I thought I will ignore your last comment till now when I came accross this video on Youtube. Search for "Economic Freedom and Growth" by user "LearnLiberty". If you still cant understand where the REAL focus should be, then I pity you. In any case, good video to watch and I am sure you will enjoy it. Cheers buddy
I do not disagree with the video. But the emphasis in that was - what drives prosperity? My question is different - how does one preserve ethnic culture within a diverse society? We already have legal/economic freedom, so we will prosper - that's not a problem. What we don't have is a sensitization to culture. We need to preserve diversity if we need to unite this diverse country. Language is an element of diversity. If we don't resolve this, we will be prosperous but divided.
We are already seeing evidence of it. India has never been more prosperous in its history due to economic freedom since 1991 with a reasonably strong legal system. Yet we are also probably more divided than we ever were. Do not underestimate the value of cultural sensitivities in a prosperous society.
@gatesrocks Again culture??? When will you learn? Your culture is YOUR responsibility, my culture is MY responsibility, Mr. X's culture is HIS responsiblity. I am NOT going to babysit you just because u are a scared chicken & goes the other around too. Let's keep it that way. Be happy with your culture and preserve it - no issues. Dont try to impose on others or people will get sick of it and walk out from Bombay to Gujrat and all your arrogance (of best city) will die in matter of two decades.
@gatesrocks Also UNDERSTAND that Ego, "Culture", History, Race, Caste, Lannguage, emotions have VERY little to do with Economics and wealth. Bombay was NOT built that way. People worked and they worked their ass off and that time (when Bombay grew) there was no Shiv Sena or MNS. Had they been there, Bombay would have been just aother port in 8,000 kms of cost lines in India. People like Raj, Bala, Mayawati, Laloo, Mushraff, Zaid Hamid, Didi, Amma etc are Detrimental to any society.
...so pls dont defend this guy...n i hope every marathi understands this coz i find that majority of them just fail to understand what the core issue over here is.Also,pls dont think that he is a messiah and will make mumbai the 8th wonder of the world.Mumbai is a cosmopolitan city & hence respect its diversity.Think Rationally,Think wisely....Country First Always
He may not be a messiah but the average Marathi politician cares two hoots about development. I hope Raj can at least change course. I also feel that this allegation of Raj being divisive is being used by UP politicians as an excuse to continue what they have been doing. Its almost like - you beat me black and blue and then if I open my mouth, I am the one who is "divisive". Nationalism comes first because you cannot use it as an excuse to kill regional culture, growth and development!
...yes they are..and should be dealt accordingly.There is law.However,how do you justify such brazen disrespect by an individual for all a democracy stands for.That is the issue.You cant let him get away with this.This will give wrong signals.Just imagine tmrw after being inspired by this guy,28 new raj thakerays were to be born in every state,what would happen???....
@gatesrocks: Dude,all your points are valid,but why dont u understand the gravity and implications of thakeray's actions.Its not about showing a clip 100 times on the TV,he does it time and again as if he is doesnt care.Now THIS ATTITUDE is the concern.He has no regrets,no respect for the state,no respect for the people,no respect for centre.You will say what about Mayawati,Lalu..arent they corrupt etc...
I agree, Aman. If there is one thing I don't agree with what he does is his tendency to be inciteful and take the law into his own hands. I have always maintained that more Marathis will support him if acts democratically and without creating chaos. But I find nothing wrong with his underlying views. You have to separate his ideology from his methods and give credit where its due.
On 21 July 2005 a five acre plot of land, Kohinoor Mill No. 3, located across the road from the Shiv Sena party headquarters, Sena Bhavan, in Dadar, Mumbai, was purchased by Raj and Unmesh Joshi (son of former Maharashtra Chief Minister and former Lok Sabha speaker Manohar Joshi) for a whopping Rs 421 crore. Source - wikipedia. By the way Raj Thackerey only wants to win the marathi vote. What has he actually done for marathis except talking.
By the way, i agree 421 crore is peanuts to you. I am a marathi myself. Talking about getting jobs for us people is different than creating jobs for us. With 421 crores, if used in a right way 40,000 jobs can be created. But, us marathi people are loving him because we just believe in what he says. Raj Thackerey does not understand that Mumbai is one of the richest city in India because of it diversity, its like what is london without Lakshmi Mittal and other rich indians there.
@pratapgshinde Mr. Shinde, before I say anything let me tell you, I am North Indian, lived in Bombay for 10 years and loved the city & people. I DO NOT support Raj Thackeray as he is spreading hate but if I listen to him carefully, he is not worng totally. He talks good but has done little for Marathis. By spreading hate, MH is not going to progress. Also, like any other politician he too is power hungry.
Moreover, let me assure you, he is MUCH richer than you think he is.
@pratapgshinde Also, he in a way will end up damaging MH. Dont forget that before Bombay, Calcutta was commercial and India's # 1 city. People belonging to the same ideology ruined CCU. Ex. ISB wanted to start school in Bombay and SS wanted reservation for Marathi’s. Result, they went to HYD and Bombay is deprived of world class business school.
@pratapgshinde I agree that too many people coming in BOM is NOT good & at times safe. However, the way immigrants cause problems in BOM, immigrants (Sindhi, Parsi, Panjabi, Marwari, Gujju etc) r the one who have turned Bombay in Business capital on India whilst UP & Bihar provided strong labour force. Don’t forget that.
Being a "Bhaiya" myself, even I had a Marathi driver, maid and a servant in Bombay and loved all of them. They were a part of my family & I never felt like stranger to them.
What do you expect him to do? You will not ask the same question to a Congress who has been ruling Maharashra for the last 45 years. Oh but wait - let's focus on Raj Thackeray and ask him what he has done coz they showed a taxi driver being pushed almost a 100 times on TV! Let us ignore the fact that he has a 3-year old party and opened his account only yesterday in the state assembly! How dishonest of you!
He says he interrupted the Railways Exam for the benefit of local candidates and that these job opportunities don't come often.
Did he really help anyone by this? Did this really help the local candidates get a job? He spoiled whatever chances there were for the local candidates by interrupting the exam. They will just move the exam centers elsewhere next time. What if the locals get the same treatment at the other place?
so u think its fair tht all the posts for Indian railways in every state go 2 ppl from outside the state?? Is it not right when he says that local jobs of any state should go 2 ppl from that state 1st?? or should all jobs be rewarded only 2 ppl from UP and Bihar coz the last railway minister was from that state?? Look at the reasons and ends not the trivialties..and mind u this has been happenin for yrs this is 1 man who has stepped u 2 support the right thing..
Maharashtrians are not banned from appearing for the exam from other states. And the debate here is really the same as globalization vs localization. Any economy that needs to progress will have to inevitably open up. And by opening up, the quality of it's citizens and their net property increases.
Agreed. This is the global vs local with an added twist. The migrants are often involved in illegal consumption of state resources which they don't pay for - either housing, electricity, roads. And this often comes at an extra cost to the locals, apart from the fact that their jobs are lost. No one is banned from doing anything. And what if they don't want to move? Every local should have the prerogative to get a job in his own state first. coz he is culturally bound to his place.
Economic migration happens everywhere. The difference here it acts with political connivance - where politicians from UP encourage people to move and set base elsewhere (either on streets or govt land) and create ghettoized vote banks. Once you change the demographics of the new place, capturing state and local lower is easy. Already, SP candidates are being elected in pockets of Maharashtra due to these ghettoes.
@gatesrocks My friend, what you are referring to as "Ghettoes" is actually offshoot of Democracy. Welcome to the free world. Once again, Jews (out numbered like hell in the world) have made their mark & contribution. You dont want to improve skill sets but just want others not to come and give you competition - that aren’t going to heppen friend.
It is really easy to act radical when one is out of power and aspires for it and not when he is within the constraints of law making and reality.
Finally, we have laws and constitution which needs to be respected. If politicos themselves throw it in the air, How can you trust them to protect it? What about the common citizens who adore them? It doesn't bode well for anyone but for those who want to make cheap political gains at whatever cost. We are not an anarchy.
That is why I do not agree with Raj Thackeray's inclination to take the law into his own hands even though I agree completely with his underlying views. But the fact remains that law enforcement is weak in India. Which in turn gives rise to these extra-judicial methods for resurrecting things. People lose patience, get angry and the anger boils over. At least in his interviews, he does not claim to use it as a party strategy - he often claims that the violence is spontaneous, not planned.
Whether he spoiled the chances or increased the chances for all future local candidates for years to come, only time will tell. You cannot hang him until you have seen the results. The local railway recruitment ads have already started appearing in Marathi newspapers which hitherto were appearing only in the Hindi and English newspapers.
He specifically said he did not choose democratic process because the exams don't come often and he wanted quick results. So you have to evaluate his actions w.r.t it's goals, which is, did he get his quick results? No. He spoiled their chances.
He didn't say the exams often didn't come. he said jobs are lost if you don't agitate at the right time. I am sure they conducted the exams elsewhere under security. But the authorities will think twice about railways recruitment policies in the future.
Recruitment Ad appearing in Marathi dailies is the simplest thing he could have done himself all these years without waiting for the Indian Railways if he really cared. There are NGOs and Interest Groups which can easily finance a simple recruitment Ad in a Marathi Daily. In politics, it's all about gains and timing the events. There are lots of criterion u can keep using to divide and discriminate people. You can either be open or closed. Choice is of course urs to make.
UP & Biharies who cann't show a good gesture by doing small things like learning the local language or respecting the culture, how can they be good reg money to the locals? the cancer must be stopped at patna station itself!
if biharis and Upitiies have a problem in their states is because the yhavent developed it. the governemrt sends ample amount of money to support these states. its the people who have to bring a change there. beggers shouldnt talk of self respect
I think Raj Thackeray is misguided when he goes and beats up a taxi driver. He has a very strong underlying message. But that message gets diluted when he indulges in hooliganism. and these dumb media channels hype up by playing the same clip again and again and again....
y nt stop d local marathis from givin away illegal taxi licences n free electricity n mak it impossibl for such thngs to hapen..u knw beat up a few marathi corporators as well...den u wud mak a lot mor sens n prhaps gain a lot mre suport
Anyway enuf of al dis mostly childish debate...v al understnd that der is dis problem with vaias in mumbai..most of their attitude 2wards local governmnt (or any gov for that mater) n local ppl is pathetic..accept it....bt d point is jst dont BRAND them n demand stuffs dat ruins the country...
what do you think they are happy leaving their own states and listening to all the crap they have to listen and being treated as 3rd class citizens in their own country....no one is....you got to understand their problem...probably they are even more frustrated than yourself...give it a thought!...Your reason to the migration point makes sense i guess but using it politically to instigate violence...not really called for...these are sensitive issues and need to be dealt in a moderate manner.
aman, I am sympathetic to them. But I will give you a situation. But sometimes things are imposed. I will repeat what Raj said in an interview "We don't wake up in the morning and decide to bash UP/Biharis. It is being imposed and anger builds up over time and sometimes that anger overflows when people like Amar Singh and Abu Azmi come into Mumbai and talk of distributing lathis to beat marathi people". You are right - it should be dealt in moderation. But moderation has to work both ways.
@gatesrocks : Going by your response to vijayrules qsns,do you feel UP/Biharis are fond of living on the streets?...no...its just that they cant afford...now if they cant afford,i guess the attitude should be of sympathy..after all they are your countrymen...aint it?...you cant play the moral police over here...gotta analyze things at a macro level....
@gatesrock ...jst for a second imagine ur state goes down on economy n infrastructure..i wud nevr want it to bt jst suppose somethn infernal hapens n mumbai n maha gets ripped...no jobs no proper life...u tel me wat wud u do...stay in wateva is left n rebuild maha which is gonna tk 50-60 yrs..or go 2 anotherstate for a btr lif...wat wud mst ob marathis do?gimme a prac ans
vijayrules, first of all there is a difference between your situation n what is happening in UP/Bihar. UP/Bihar today is coz of corrupt politicians and the feudal mindset. there are many poor people from Orissa, MP - with UP/Bihar people have a problem because of the thug mentality.
But as you say, there is an earthquake in M'tra and everything is ruined. Then I would move to UP/Bihar/TN. I will learn their culture, speak Hindi, Tamil, pay taxes, do my job and not live on the streets!
vijayrules, if you can't call someone a migrant, then why have different states. let us do away with the concept of states. The reason why we have states is to preserve culture, facilitate governance and meet local needs. If one region has good governance and another is just living off the good state, will it not be demotivating for the good state? what happens to the local people there who have lived there for centuries?
@gates..ya xactly wat aman has writen...u will probably get a good livin in another state as well coz i assume u hav d education n skills to do dat..nt evryone wil...2ndly altho v do hav state govs n other state owned institues bt its nt like d states are fully self-dependent n sovereign....i dnt nid 2 tel ya hw much maharashtra needs oder states 4 its survival as well..nt prosperity bt 'Survival'..
@tinku...good point...in 26/11..did ya count hw many marathi jawans died n hw many 'Bhaia' jawans did...dey risked ther lives to protect Mumbai..which is d pride ob d country nt jst maharashtra......u cant call an indian inside India a "migrant"..u jst cant
As far as raj thakre is concerned such politicains are born every single minute in bihar and up so people like u can idolise him as hero for me he is a piece of trash needs to be dumped .
I hate every bad politician be it from anywhere . I ll tell there r thousand of marathis in maharashtra getting free elecricity ad not paying bil . U and other politicians shud have raised the issue 20-30 yrs back when govt invested the money collected as tax throughout the nation in making mumbai as the financial capital , now after development from our tax u want us to sit and see u reap benifits of efforts that is actually a contribution of all the indians and not only mrathas.
tinkushukla, you do not listen to Raj. He says Marathis are as much responsible for this mess as migrants. Who gives illegal licenses to taxis for a few rupees or free electricity to the slums. It is the local RTO officer or the corporators who are Marathi people.
Tinku, tax is something you do on an ongoing basis. You can't pay tax once 50 years back and then claim the fruits forever. You have to pay tax every year while you are consuming the resources of the state. Bad logic
get this in writing kee log inter state migrate nahin kar sakte from indian government....maoist& aussies ko bhi support karo...un logon kee vichaar dhaara bhi tum logon se milti hai...ab se JAI MAHARASHTRA bolna chorh ke JAI MAHARASHTRA,JAI MAOIST,JAI AUSSIES bolna shuru karo...aur bhi support base badega...kyun?
Ohohoho, I repeat - I do not support the violence of Raj Thackeray, even if it just pushing ONE taxi driver. I am only supporting his underlying views. I also support the injustice faced by Naxalites in the past. but beheading police officers is not the same as pushing a taxi driver. Naxalites have gone beyond sympathy levels. And do not compare this against Aussies. Indians by and large are not illegal migrants who go and live on the streets and get free electricity. Do not oversimplify.
U both didnt understood my point ok , if mumbai is the financial capital its bcoz of all the non marathis like the primeministers , the actors , dhirubhai ambani , i m not talking of biharis , i m talking of the indians who paid tax from every where and contributed the central govt in building BSE here ok... Another think mr gate u seem to be that kind of person who will embace ur brother if he is success and ignore him if he is not . First lift ur morale to be called as a human and the maratha
Even if I were to believe that Mumbai was built only by non-Marathis, the fact is today - Mumbai is a part of Maharashtra. 60-70% of the people speak Marathi. Today we pay tax for generating jobs, building roads. I really don't care if Ambani paid his tax 20 years ago. He is not doing us a favor by paying tax. It is his duty as is the duty of the migrants. The migrants get free electricity, housing living on the streets, plum jobs in railways while the local citizens go hungry. It is not fair.
It is not about being successful or unsuccessful. I don't have personal animosity towards poor people. But you have to accept that they are poor because people like Mayawati are busy building statues. Who is supposed to question Mayawati or Mulayam? If Raj raises his voice, you accuse him of breaking the country. So what are we supposed to do? Just sit quietly while millions from UP and Bihar swamp Maharashtra??
I challenge u the day reservation is declared in mnc for people from here not a single mnc is going to come bcoz they choose the best be it from anywhere. One more u r so much proud today just give the credit to english who lived here and developed it for their own benefit , u shud have said the same thing to dhiru bhai ambani who was not marathi , u shud have avoided seeing amitabh films but he is the bap of mumbai and he comes from mumbai, not a single marathi pm is in the count .
Mr. Shukla we don't deny that every mumbaikar has contributed to the developement of Mumbai. Our point is "RHE LOCAL MAN" (including those who are living in maharashtra since 15 years) should get the jobs. There are about 70% marathi people in New Jersi, America. We never said that their developement is because of us. There are so many Marathi people living in Delhi, Kolakata. Bengulru. We dont say that we developed them. then why are you making such foolish statements?
70% marathis in NJ...70 % of wat..do u actually suggest dat 70% of all ppl in NJ are Marathis.....he he...den hw many indians v hav der ..lik 99%...u r a funny guy
I will continue to watch Amitabh movies because Amitabh did not migrate from UP and built his slum on the streets. He did not steal free power from the electricity poles. He did not write on the walls of Mumbai " Mumbai will soon be ours". He did not drive illegal taxis in Mumbai. Ambani created millions and millions of jobs for Mumbai and India. We do not have to worry about people who contribute whether they are UP, Bihari, gujrati or even Pakistanis!
U r a real fool do u think that mumbai is developed because of marathis foolish fellow , the whole country has cotributed , and if mumbai is the financial capital its bcoz every one has contributed . One more thing u fat ass i hate all the bad politicians whether it be laloo or any body else , but they r not traitor like marathi politician who work with daood ibrahim and chota shakeel shameless fellow , and i tell u few facts , first primeminister from up e, first president from bihar
Whether Mumbai was developed by Biharis or Martians is immaterial. We as Maharshtrians pay the huge tax for living in Mumbai. UP/Bihar don't pay that tax. We will be glad to accommodate all the Biharis and UP'ites if UP and Bihar can give us $20 billion every year for taking care of your migrants! Ask your uncle or aunts to pay for the education, food and clothing of your family and allow them to stay in their house forever. Let us see if they are your friends!
Isn't it sad inspite of FOUR PM's coming from UP and President from Bihar - still UP and Bihar have the lowest literacy, the highest infant mortality, the most Polio diseases and the most lawlessness?? Develop your states - then come and argue.
So called marathis u r a real fool, leaders like raj thakrey misguides people like u to be a known politician and u start fightig. U must think like an indian and idolise people like sunil dutt who often visited dharavi and was a respected person everywhere . U all r educated , if a state in country is backward rather than making conditions worse work to make things better. Remember there are only two classes , politicians and voters ur vote decides the natios future.
Marathi people are probably more Indian than the UP and Bihari politicians ever will be. If the Mulayams and Mayawatis and Laloos and Paswans considered themselves Indians, they would have made an attempt to develop their own states and create jobs for their own peoplle instead of letting them migrate and being a burden in other states. Being Indian means able to take care of yourself. Not sitting on your ass and building statues and letting the rest of the country bear the burden of UP/Bihar.
Good for you if u r not...maybe its not as popular with marathis...but emotion is similar to that of the term bhaiyyas.its something like when u see a marathi with the below mentioned traits,you may say "Look at that idiot ghati"....sumthng like when u c a bihari spitting on the road,u may say "Bhaiyya sale"!....hehe iv become a teacher now...woahhh vat an intellectual comment frm my end
woahhh...dudes and dudettes....pehle samjho main kya keh raha hoon....i said just like UP-Bihari -> Bhaiyyas...similarly,Marathis -> Ghatis...yes it is a derogatory term(just as bhaiyyas - just as pakis)....symbolizing these properties namely lazy,unclouth,good for nothing people....just as you refer to biharis as unkempt,filthy and the ones who spit here and there...got it now...n dnt worry i know my geography for that matter regarding meaning of Ghatis!
I don't know about Bhaiyyas but whether the term Ghati is derogatory is controversial. I think people who don't know the language attempt to use it offensively but I don't think most Maharshtrians are offended - not as much as you think. I personally am not offended. If you call me lazy, I will be offended. But Ghati ≠ Lazy.
Ghatis mean people from the mountains. Not lazy. What is the point in provoking your own countrymen? Would it not be better if UP and Bihar increased their literacy rates from 40% to at least 60-70% which is the national average. Or reduced the number of kids produced by a UP/Bihari woman from 5 kids to 1-2 kids?
If bhaiyas from UP & Bihar think they are so great why do they have to migrate outside? We see bhaiyaas getting kicked in Karnataka, Goa, Assam and Tamilnadu. If bhaiyas think they are hard-working why migrate when UP an Bihar need the most help.
yeahhh marathi men dance on Ganesh Chaturthi.....n wat do bhayaz do....oggle n look at women in d most pervert wayy, try to touch them....dat wud make yu go n slap them... ............ !!
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The thing i hate about Raj thackeray is when he talks about Youth of Maharashtra,he talks about Marathi youth and not all the youth who were born to tax payer families here of all origin.
KINGMJ1990 5 months ago
hes d best !!!!!!!!
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We need someone like Raj (villain) to make the government work... I think we have had enough of the scams and a lot of money has been lost, thanks to INC/NCP/BSP/DMK etc... People need hope and Raj seems to give it... He must change his agenda though...
kingdomofloss1 7 months ago
5 ball 5 four good raj jai maharashtara
MrAwakode 8 months ago
Mr thackrey: when u r on english channel then why dont u speak in english?
qizzak 9 months ago
@ vkdentertaintment666: are Mitraa... Mee pan Raj Thackeray hyanchaa motha chahtaa aahe...Krupaya Gairsamaj karun gheu nakos..Raj Thackeray Zindabaad...Raj saaahab aage badho,,Anna Hazaare se bhi......jo ki abhi limelight me hai....:)
gaju001 10 months ago
I am Raj Thackeray Fan.....No body should blame him.... Aur Log kaahe beech me unglee kar rahe hai??
gaju001 10 months ago
Raj rocks... He is real Hero of Maharashtra
freaksd 1 year ago 5
i kind of agree with raj thackrey. I have always opposed him, but he made sense here. But i still dont understand the violence & breaking of taxi windscreens and beating non marathi taxi drivers. If the marathi youth wants to drive a taxi, who is stopping him? if an outsider doesnt speak marathi, he is not harming the marathi culture. how does it matter if it is called mumbai or bombay? raj can be a great leader if he shuns violence. Ur strength shud be in your ideas not in violence.
sonu1179 1 year ago
UP & Bihar are the worst regions on earth. Really, they are highly populated,they are highly criminal, they are far poor. If there were no UP & Bihar in India, India would be ahead of china.
akshayboraste 1 year ago
@akshayboraste Chutia, if there were no migrants, Maharashtra would have been worse than Bihar. Understand that you MADERCHOOD marathi manoos bahinchood
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
Planning Commission reports -
90 percent population is living under USD 2.
50 percent population earns less than INR 20.
58000 crores worth of grain rots every year.
More than 1 million farmers have committed suicide.
Players in commodity exchange earned 10 Lakh Crores vs actual delivery of 3460 crores, means 99 percent was earned by players in market.
Inflation of China/Malasia, etc is lessThan 3 percent, India Food Inflation moreThan 17percent
50 percent children victim of malnutrition
vicnick30 1 year ago
Find some important facts of Nehru and his lust for power
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keaesha19 1 year ago
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Jai Ho Raj Thackeray bhaiyya Ki...E ka Pahile Bhojpuriaya Bhasaa seekhava..Kyunki ee bhaasa Bahot saral ba.......,......
gaju001 1 year ago
Jai Ho Raj Thackeray bhaiyya Ki...E ka Pahile Bhojpuriaya Bhasaa seekhava..Kyunki ee bhaasa Bahot saral ba.......
gaju001 1 year ago
@gaju001 tar marathi bhasha kai ulti ahe ka re bhaitya.............tu raj sahebancha adar pan manto ani tyanchi vitambana pan kartos kai.....mumbai madhe rahato tu ..........amhala kai mahit nahi ka re bhaitya....gapchup ithe pot bhar........ha ek punkari hoti raj sainik chi ugach vakdyat jau nakos alai tikdech sampsil........jai manse........raj sahebancha vijay aso.......
vkdentertaintment666 10 months ago
Jai Ho Raj Thackeray aur unke Bhaiyya Logan ki..Rauva ke Bahot bahot Dhanvaad..Saale ee Humri baat naikhe Jaanel ba...Baaki sab Ekdum Badhiya Ba.....
gaju001 1 year ago
Wow. Goswami is an amazingly bad interviewer. Thackeray has made his views amply clear since the beginning. You would think Goswami would have done research properly, and find smarter ways to ask his questions. Idiot. Obviously, Thackeray is wiping the floor with him. "Violence begets violence Raj". Like he doesn't know that. preachy idiot. Hard question dude, find some.
smenon7 1 year ago
@smenon7 i kinda agree. i am a big fan of arnab, but he looked out of touch in this interview
sonu1179 1 year ago
I agree on some issues of raj thackrey!!But migration is good for the economy of a state provided the migration is of well educated and innovative people!!If all the poor people and farmers leave villages and start coming to cities for a better life then over all standard of living of the people and that of the state reduces and the state or the province may progress slowly!!Hence it is very essential that the population explosion that is occurring in UP and Bihar should be controlled!!
JaiHind8 1 year ago
I just believe that, If you want a Job then Be perfect for the job. Study well. Get good marks. Get good degree. Then say I M PERFECT.
zaviiee 1 year ago
@zaviiee
Sir wo sarkari job hai usme skillset aur education nahi dekhi jati
vijaydahiwal 1 year ago
This man definitely is driving the moral and ethical standards down by a century, with his facist agenda. Why is he just always angry about migrants? I think his agenda would have been a lot better if he said, he would empower the 'allegedlly oppressed' marati workforce by improving their educational standards and making them competent in the job market, rather than going after the blood of competent migrant workers.
IThinkForMe 1 year ago
whatlanguage he is speaking?
apnalosamajkar 1 year ago
Raj thakrey bhadwa ek no ka darpok hai..iski ma madarchod mughal log se chudwati hai
dawnstardhruv 1 year ago
@dawnstardhruv aur tuney kisse choodvaayi hey lol
shreenterprises 1 year ago
@dawnstardhruv ...dear aai ghalya, tu khud apni ma ki boli lagata hoga! ye kahte hue bhi mujhe ghin ati hai tumhari!khabardar agar iske age kuch faltu ki baat ki!
mnsmarathimanus 1 year ago
part--1
This man is absolutely right. What is wrong?
If he is doing something for his homeland,
This is India,
great Bartratn Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar who wrote the Constitution of India here not only left,
his interest in that country if one fights, So he reads all this to endure,
I am not Raj Compare to Dr Babasaheb.
Many people like him....... if we are steadfast on the suit ..living today
luckydhawan 2 years ago
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ma ka bhosda raj ki
prashantxecutioner17 2 years ago
go to him personally and say it yaar, is forum pe kyon zahar ugaal raha hai?
aniketn 2 years ago
i m shocked after seeing so much people supporting this son of a whore...
tell me how many poor marathi people actually get benefit from his strategy...
why the people dont understand he is not a social worker but a dirty minded politician and he can also divide the country for the sake of himself not for marathis, and tell u this will not effect india but will effect the maharashtrian people..
raj4u2009 2 years ago
this guy drives audi Q7, Has 2 gradan dogs, Kohinoor mill ani kithi sampathi... ha manus kashala kahi karat nahi poor marathi mannos sathi..vidharba madhey kiti farmer sucide kartat...tikde kahi hi nai karnar..fakt mumbai madhey note chapaycha ahe hyana...waanabe Balasaheb...
TheSam7866 2 years ago 4
If its that way then,
Lalu and Mayawati can rid their state of poverty too..
Why dont you think of it that way then.
Hes a rich guy cz hes a big shot builder in Bombay and he will use his money for elections...
Zenedarr 1 year ago
@TheSam7866 Hello Mr.whosoever u r.. I totally disagree on your point...!!! Please look into more information on Mananiya Raj Thackeray, nd thus his followers will increase...!!! He's a man of worth, he's a new face of maharashtra politics..!! Ani jarka nota chapaichya astil na, tar itar khup dhande ahet je pawar, shinde etc.loka kartaat.. Saheb nahi..!!!
Raj Sahebanna Manacha mujra..!!
Medha30390 1 year ago
@Medha30390
medha is a child she dnt understand politics totally
vijaydahiwal 1 year ago
@ shikhsoldier : YEH ALL UP/BIHAR MUSLIM LEADER LIKE ABU AZMI FUCKED UR WIFE AND SISTERS !!! HAHAHAHA
IF U BELIVE THIS I WILL BELIVE THAT TOO ;)
vimawa 2 years ago
@ nucdev :
U FUCKER SIT IN UK AND CLEAN THEIR TOILETS DONT COMMENT ON INDIAN POLITICS....
COME HERE PARTICIPATE IN INDIAN PROGRESS AND THEN TALK .... BASTERD !!!
vimawa 2 years ago
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i swear politicians like this who incite state violence should be burnt alive or something!!
Shiv Sena Murdabad from the UK
nucdev 2 years ago
Hes not practical because people of different states live in other sates. He thinks its still the 60's
Grungy3651 2 years ago
@pakijihadi..islam is the most stupid religion in the world..the fucking muslim following some kuran which is result of some asshole muhommad who fucked his own daughter....
adirider1 2 years ago 3
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Raj Thakre is a great human being.The real bastards are Rajput,christian,bengloli,gurjaratee,panjabi,jatt,UP hindu cocksuckers.Raj Thakre destroy all north south east and west india hindu devil Kufrs and make Marthi people free like Pakistanis.Marshtra was a part of Mughal empire. Marshtra will rejoin their Muslim bros and become a province of Pakistan. Shivarji's wife was fucked by Afzal Khan many times,she was his personal whore.Allah Hu Akbar. Raj Thakre,Ibrahim Dawood&Pakistan Zindabad.
SikhSoIdier09 2 years ago
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Women are wearing almost no clothes. Men and women eating pork, drinking alcohol, praying to false God. The earth will be destroyed unless all mankind embraces Islam, accepts Muhammed pbuh as the last Prophet of Allah who was such a great man Allah gave him special permision to enjoy sex with 5 year old Aisha because Allah wanted Muhammed pbuh to enjoy fresh virgin meat. Muslims will get sex with 72 virgins in Heaven. Its a matter of time before all of India accepts Islam.Pakistan Zindabad.
PakiMuslimJihadi1980 2 years ago
@paki jihadi - there's a reason my land is called as HINDUSTAN ...the marathas ,rajputs, sikhs defended my land from the islam mughols..and thats the way's its gonna be...fully islamic states as urs are in the worst possible case jus because of the allah worshippin shit and ur shitty fictional book...lol..kill innocent people and have sex wid 5 year old?? bhenchod...isko religion bolte ho...love hinduism and proud of it!!!! jai hind
sunrulzz 2 years ago 5
ur funny
shaioliver 2 years ago
shutup
go else where faggot. bet ur an indian luslims doing anti national things.
Grungy3651 2 years ago
The people from other states are talking so much againts Raj as they dont have things happing as in Maharashtra where in the local peopel doesnt even come to know about Job apportunites .. its not about deviding nation ,, its about basic rights of people from their own soil... and eventhough Raj's way of doing things may not be acceptible but thats how it works for people who dont understand talks
vsequence 2 years ago
Many many UP /bihar labours who work in Mumbai also understand Marathi but still due to MNS goonda gardi they are made target due to their helpless and poor status. And whatever this person is advocating is totally against the law.
lallantripathi 2 years ago
sounds like a mad dog barking
MrGreyPoopOn 2 years ago 3
In that case even Arnab should leave his job in Mumbai and go to Kolkata and work there, Arnab's job should be given to a Maharastrian journalist.
lallantripathi 2 years ago 3
Wrong. Arnab can understand Marathi even though he is not maharashtrian by origin - which is why he can smoothly talk with raj here. That is what is expected of migrants - every person should adopt the culture of the region. Preserving culture is not just the responsibility of the ethnic locals.
gatesrocks 2 years ago 20
@gatesrocks And let me get to core of the issue: Bombay needs more employment, less people (can be less bhaiyas), better facilities, drinking water, better roads, good education - NONE OF THIS HAS GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING MARATHI MANOOS. Get this right. You dont believe me, check out "Anti Indian" videos of Pakis. You guys (sorry) behave same way. For all your problems, BLAME fucking someone else. You should be glad that Bhaiyas do the fucking "odd jobs" that most Marathis will NEVER do.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
What Bombay needs as a city is just a different issue. I just don't buy the crap that just coz Bombay infrastructure is limited that we don' allow migrants. That's silly. My objection is to the narrow point of being in a place for three decades and living there as a foreigner trying to make your buck, partaking its beauty while being conveniently insensitive to the social cultural issues plaguing that place. No laws against that. But it is just not nice
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Preserving culture is the responsibility of the "Ethnic Locals" in any society. What is your take on locals doing "Matka", "Dance Bars", "Gang wars", "Hate Crime" etc. What culture do they promote? Just coz I live in Vatican city, does not mean that I HAVE to become Pope. You gotta be kidding me if u say yes. Moreover, where di you say u r from? Bombay or Saudi????? I am sorry, did you say Bombay???????
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
what the fuck is this ediot is saying....
it's jenerating hate inside me 4 marathie pepl....
i m an indian n then punjabi....
Me6GunLover 2 years ago
heyyy r u mad this man can change maharashtra n have the potenttial to do soo n u idiots dis not only 4 maharashtrians bt also 4 common plpe of maharashtra this man is not insane he never tld plpe to go n fight on road he said dat jus go against north indians its v go take him dat way
MRGAURAVAMBEKAR 2 years ago
In a report released by the BMC, 50% of people in Mumbai are migrants out of which UP accounts for 25% of the migrants - the highest. next are Gujjus with 9.6%. 50% of the city lives in slums, another 20-30% lives in crubling chawls "Migration is becoming major cause of concern taking into consideration the limited availability of resources to accommodate them. But there is no solution to curb the influx, at least in the near future," it said
gatesrocks 2 years ago 10
@gatesrocks My friend I agree & let me assure u that 100% of the industrialists are also Migrants. TATA, Birla, Ambani, Mallya, Mahendra, Goyal etc etc. Dont forget the film industry. Dont spread hate against migrants as Bombay without the migrants is just another city. I also agree with you (despite being a UP born) that YES there are far too many people from UP and Bihar in city. But then if they go away, who will do the odd jobs? Punish the guilty and dont hate your owne countrymen. Jai Hind
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
This is the problem I have with such views. Every time a legitimate concern is raised, you say - don't spread hate. You wrongly make me look communal AND you confuse the issue. Everyone should be welcome everywhere. But wherever you live, adopt the language and culture of the region. 90% of the people from UP/Bihar, wherever they go, cannot speak a word of the local language. This attitude should change. Empathy for someone's culture should spread both ways. It is not one way.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Listen Marathi Manoos, Hindi is the national language and we know it. There are 16 National language and 800 Dialects. If a person moves from region to region then it is NOT important for him to learn the languaues. Marathi is NOT above India. Your attitude should change before you turn Bombay to another Calcutta and Gujrat becomes Commercial Centre.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
Wrong! And its about time that you get educated. Hindi is NOT the national language. It is an official language - just like Marathi or Bengali. The fact that's its spoken more widely doesn't make it more national. You are no more national than I am. Why is it not important to him? Is language only about convenience for you? Go somewhere, make your money and come back? Language represents the culture of the region. By speaking the local language, you adopt the local culture.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks I am so glad that I am having exchanging communication with someone who is ACTUALLY educated. I have read the constitution and hence I would tell you that you are part correct. Hindi is NOT the national language (if you read the constitution). But then, there was a subsequent amendment (dont remember which one) which "described" Hindi to be the one; you still got a point (not many know this) and hats off "Marathi Manoos". In any case, Hindi has been "adapted" to be "the" language
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Marathi Manoos, I lived in BOM for 10 years & LOVED it. Dont know anything in Marathi language but was always accepted by all. However, I could see the hate in people for Bhaiyas. Unfortunate for MOST people I was well placed in society and hence had my way or else no respect for Bhaiyas (Yes). NOW: I moved to UK (they ruled us) and the amount of respect as an Individual I got was amazing. I used to think they are racists. What did I learn; we Indians are BIGGEST fucking racists.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
And if everyone does according to what he or she feels convenient, by that logic, all regional languages should perish and only Hindi should survive? Is that what you want? You propagate a culture by doing it, by speaking it and trying to [preserve customs and traditions. Unity in Diversity - that's what Nehru said. Adopt Marathi as if it were your own because we are also part of India. Otherwise the efforts of artists who have contributed to regional culture, will all die
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks You got it sooooo wrong my friend. Since WHEN did customs & tradition become personal property of Marathi’s? Shivaji Maharaj is NATIONAL icon & we ALL are proud of him. Lord Ram (born in UP) is NOT private property or Bhaiyas, we all Hindus worship him. Parliament is in Delhi but all Indians can participate. Understand that you are not the ONLY one worried about culture getting lost, others are too AND others (UP or Bihar) also have culture it is not that ONLY Marathis have culture.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
No it may not be private property but believe me, Marathi literary culture is dying. And so its the responsibility of ALL Indians to protect it, ESPECIALLY the ones who live here. UP and Bihar culture dosen't need to be protected today because there are just so many of you. Its not an immediate emergency. Butwhat is happening in Mumbai is that it is flooded with migrants. Which is ok! Economic migration is a reliaty, But if migrants cannot adapt,
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks In the end, let me tell you. You are TOTALLY on a different tangent (like Muslims say Islam is uner threat). Issue here is NOT that Bhaiyas are not speaking Marathi. Actually Bhaiyas are soft target for people like Raj & Bala. Issue here is (I agree with Raj & Bala) that Bombay is way too crowded & less jobs due Bhaiyas. contd.....2
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
You are right. Bhaiyyas are soft targets because most are poor - that's a truth. But there is another truth floating out there - that Bhaiyyas can't speak Marathi after living for 30-35 years. That is worrying. Get rid of the second and you won't have retards like Raj Thackeray trying to beat up taxi drivers. Don't give them an opportunity for them to do vote bank politics.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Arre mere Bhai. WHAT will you achieve if Bhaiya speaks Marathi & WHO told you Bhaiya's do not speak Marathi (u are mistaken). If Bhaiya's start speaking Marathi, will Marathi's get more jobs, better roads, hospitals etc? Noooo. Only 3 things need to be done 1) Create suttle entry barrier in Bombay 2) Create Jobs for loacls (who gives a shit marathi or not) 3) Make this city the best place to live in the world. NONE of the big cities in world are made by Raj's way - TRUST ME.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
eventually the locals would be squeezed out. Fewer people will know the laguage and that would be the end. The efforts of so many authors and literary artists will be laid to absolute waste. No one will read them ever. sad. Not just true of Maharashtra, but also some states like Goa. The Goan culture is also dying and more so due to migration than the Mumbai problem
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks ...2 What can anyone do? Sad state of our country. Do you even know how many MILLION Bangladeshis have come in UP & Bihar & taken away jobs? State Govt under pressure from Centre to let Bangladeshi Mislims stay as they in future will VOTE. Get up from your state and see what the country is going through. Wake up dude. As a city, I feel sad for Bombay and abuse (yes) that too many slum people have moved in - what do i do - kill them? Did any Bangladeshi get killed in UP / Bihar - NO.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Why do Marathis feel so threatened???? Who on the earth has EVER even dreamt of stopping ANY person for practising their culture, tradition or language in India? If you want to maintain your culture, please do so. I (& all Indians) reserve and DEFEND our right to practise my culture, religion and language irrespective of which part of the INDIA I live in. Simple. Just coz you go to Tamilnadu, it does not mean that you should be FORCED to speak Tamil - dont speak, talk in English.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1 There are a lakh persons moving into Mumbai almost every month (mostly from UP/Bihar) and none of them are ever going to make an attempt to learn the language. You're still not listening. No one is stopping from practicing YOUR culture. But adopt other cultures too. Is that so hard esp if you lived there for three decades? Rajnikanth is a Marathi, moved to TN as a teenager, now speaks fluent Tamil and considers himself TAMIL! That's called national integration!!!!
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks U are talking about Empathy, tell me WHO runs underworld in BOM? Which community has max crime rate? Ask Raj / Bal Thackeray to go & shout slogans like this for Muslims. Do they or U have guts? They will chop their balls off & have it for dinner. Morevoer, it is all vote politics and both Raj & Bala need Muslim votes. Have you EVER heard anoyone of them attacking muslims? Biggest underworld dons, Dawood, Arun Gawli, Chota Rajan, Haji Mastan, Karim Lala etc - how many from UP / Bihar?
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
It may or may not be vote bank politics. I am not a fan of Raj Thackeray if he beats up people. I don't care about the underworld. My point is extremely simple - wherever you go, adopt the culture of the region. If you live in Mumbai for 35 years and cannot speak a word of Marathi, then you are trying to spread hatred by sending a message to the locals - I am here to make money, for a job. You speak my language. I don't care about Marathi language, folk culture or history!
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Okkkk. and since when did speaking a language bome symbol of respect? Marathis, Gujratis, Sindhis, Muslims, Chriatians, Parsis, Tamil etc etc all live in India for their entire LIFE and hence they all should SPEAK, READ and WRITE hindi. No, thats not the case as in India there is Freedom - this is Not Saudi, this is India my friend. India comes first and then a state. If Hindi is not enforced on all Indians then local language is secondary. Get that right and no confusions
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
You are missing the point. Speaking Marathi dosen't have to be at cost of Hindi. I will fight as much as for the Hindi as I will for the Marathi because I am Indian. But Hindi dosen't require protection. Its Marathi because fewer people are speaking it. You are right - you have the legal freedom to not speak Marathi. But this isn't about legalities, is it? You have the legal right to spit on the street too? But there is a long term cost you will pay for it. The cost is..
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
The cost is that Marathi will eventually die out. And you see that happening. So as an Indian, YOU (as much as the local) have a moral (not legal) obligation to protect it through use and practice. I should not have to force people to speak Marathi like Raj Tahckeray does. You should know it yourself because you are an Indian FIRST and so you are about not only Hindi, but also Marathi and Tamil. If you don't then you are implicitly dividing the country.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Dost, Marathi may die out; not because of Bhaiyas or Muslims NOT speaking Marathi (ask Raj to enforce Marathi in Kurla - lol, he will be beheaded). Marathis will die out IF they leave their roots (which is happening). Why the hell r u a scared chickens? Ever heard about Jews / Parsis? They dont give chicken shit to what language people around them speak? Go to Israel, Jews r SURROUNDED by muslims but they stick to what they want 2 do. Issue: Marathis NOT respecting their own culture.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
Absolutely not. Marathis are as much responsible as the Bhaiya. (btw many Muslims speak excellent Marathi - go to the coastal areas). You should not enforce anything. But if it comes to a point where you see nothing but eventual death of a culture in the future, then you will have a Thackeray trying to address the issue in his own crude way. You may not like it. But it will happen. But Marathis at least speak Marathi, so there is an implicit check. Most Bhaiya can't speak a word
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Boss, some points;
1) Does not matter where you live - u are responsible ONLY for your culture & not the place u live in. Do you mean to suggest that when U move to Dubai you will adapt Islam or learn Urdu & fight for muslims - WRONG?
2) Protecting Marathi culture is responsibility of Marathi Manoos. Ex Parsi is reponsible for his culture & does not go fighting for his culture to others.
2) Dont tell me what Muslims are & what they respect. Most guys are just TOO scared to admit.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
Says who? You have a moral obligation to adopt the culture you live in. And language is a central part of the culture. You don't have to change your religion if you move to dubai. Just like you don't have to give up Hindi to speak Marathi. But you do have to be able to speak Arabic if you intend to settle there for the rest of your life. Otherwise everyone will go to Dubai, become 90% of the population and yet not be held responsible for Dubai culture.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Just saw your message on "Moral Obligation". Ha ha. R you "Moral" police of India? And who told you that in Dubai you can survive ONLY if you know Arabic ? WTF? I now live in a country where I dont UNDERSTAND a shit of what they say and they are just FINE with it. They dont feel threatened with it. It is YOUR job to teach YOUR language to YOUR kids and not anyone elses. You are all mixed up buddy. Focus on real problem in BOM. Is it TOOO many people & lack of proper infrastructure
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
Protecting Marathi culture is not the responsibility of ONLY Marathis. But also other communities living there. Did you not say that we are Indians FIRST? Yes. Is Marathi not a part of India? Yes. Is Marathi not dying? Yes. So if a culture is dying, being an Indian FIRST, should we not concerned as all Indians that a culture is dying. And esp so if you live in the same city. If you go to Dubai and see a fire burning, are you going to say: It is the Arab's problem and not yours?
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Sirji, I agree wz Dubai stuff. Trust me it pains when I see screw up in BOM. Let me ask u a simple question (forget Bhaiyas & culture for a min). Have u travelled from Marol to Saki Naka? I have commuted on that road for 10 years on & off. I own a BMW in BOM & CURSE that road. Now, who made that road? Migrants? No. Your own culture people. Bad administrative control. Issue is NOT migrant but BAD administration. Till the time admin is not brought under control, all this will happen.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@gatesrocks I thought I will ignore your last comment till now when I came accross this video on Youtube. Search for "Economic Freedom and Growth" by user "LearnLiberty". If you still cant understand where the REAL focus should be, then I pity you. In any case, good video to watch and I am sure you will enjoy it. Cheers buddy
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
I do not disagree with the video. But the emphasis in that was - what drives prosperity? My question is different - how does one preserve ethnic culture within a diverse society? We already have legal/economic freedom, so we will prosper - that's not a problem. What we don't have is a sensitization to culture. We need to preserve diversity if we need to unite this diverse country. Language is an element of diversity. If we don't resolve this, we will be prosperous but divided.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@TheArunsingh1
We are already seeing evidence of it. India has never been more prosperous in its history due to economic freedom since 1991 with a reasonably strong legal system. Yet we are also probably more divided than we ever were. Do not underestimate the value of cultural sensitivities in a prosperous society.
gatesrocks 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Again culture??? When will you learn? Your culture is YOUR responsibility, my culture is MY responsibility, Mr. X's culture is HIS responsiblity. I am NOT going to babysit you just because u are a scared chicken & goes the other around too. Let's keep it that way. Be happy with your culture and preserve it - no issues. Dont try to impose on others or people will get sick of it and walk out from Bombay to Gujrat and all your arrogance (of best city) will die in matter of two decades.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@gatesrocks Also UNDERSTAND that Ego, "Culture", History, Race, Caste, Lannguage, emotions have VERY little to do with Economics and wealth. Bombay was NOT built that way. People worked and they worked their ass off and that time (when Bombay grew) there was no Shiv Sena or MNS. Had they been there, Bombay would have been just aother port in 8,000 kms of cost lines in India. People like Raj, Bala, Mayawati, Laloo, Mushraff, Zaid Hamid, Didi, Amma etc are Detrimental to any society.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
ok, lets c wat he does wid his 13 MLAs....i hav faith in him...
sudinkadam 2 years ago 6
...so pls dont defend this guy...n i hope every marathi understands this coz i find that majority of them just fail to understand what the core issue over here is.Also,pls dont think that he is a messiah and will make mumbai the 8th wonder of the world.Mumbai is a cosmopolitan city & hence respect its diversity.Think Rationally,Think wisely....Country First Always
aman709 2 years ago
He may not be a messiah but the average Marathi politician cares two hoots about development. I hope Raj can at least change course. I also feel that this allegation of Raj being divisive is being used by UP politicians as an excuse to continue what they have been doing. Its almost like - you beat me black and blue and then if I open my mouth, I am the one who is "divisive". Nationalism comes first because you cannot use it as an excuse to kill regional culture, growth and development!
gatesrocks 2 years ago 3
...yes they are..and should be dealt accordingly.There is law.However,how do you justify such brazen disrespect by an individual for all a democracy stands for.That is the issue.You cant let him get away with this.This will give wrong signals.Just imagine tmrw after being inspired by this guy,28 new raj thakerays were to be born in every state,what would happen???....
aman709 2 years ago
every state will develop & there will be no migration everyone will be happy in there own state.
TheSiddhu116 2 years ago
@gatesrocks: Dude,all your points are valid,but why dont u understand the gravity and implications of thakeray's actions.Its not about showing a clip 100 times on the TV,he does it time and again as if he is doesnt care.Now THIS ATTITUDE is the concern.He has no regrets,no respect for the state,no respect for the people,no respect for centre.You will say what about Mayawati,Lalu..arent they corrupt etc...
aman709 2 years ago
I agree, Aman. If there is one thing I don't agree with what he does is his tendency to be inciteful and take the law into his own hands. I have always maintained that more Marathis will support him if acts democratically and without creating chaos. But I find nothing wrong with his underlying views. You have to separate his ideology from his methods and give credit where its due.
gatesrocks 2 years ago 2
On 21 July 2005 a five acre plot of land, Kohinoor Mill No. 3, located across the road from the Shiv Sena party headquarters, Sena Bhavan, in Dadar, Mumbai, was purchased by Raj and Unmesh Joshi (son of former Maharashtra Chief Minister and former Lok Sabha speaker Manohar Joshi) for a whopping Rs 421 crore. Source - wikipedia. By the way Raj Thackerey only wants to win the marathi vote. What has he actually done for marathis except talking.
ravikant23091989 2 years ago
So how does it matters. I think still he will be one of the most poorest politician in India.
Brother you know very well how many tons of dollars our politicians have.
What Raj have is peanuts compared to anybody else.
Moreover I am glad that Raj is open enough that you can find such a personal information on wiki. I bet you can find about anybody's rupee on wiki.
pratapgshinde 2 years ago 5
By the way, i agree 421 crore is peanuts to you. I am a marathi myself. Talking about getting jobs for us people is different than creating jobs for us. With 421 crores, if used in a right way 40,000 jobs can be created. But, us marathi people are loving him because we just believe in what he says. Raj Thackerey does not understand that Mumbai is one of the richest city in India because of it diversity, its like what is london without Lakshmi Mittal and other rich indians there.
ravikant23091989 2 years ago
@pratapgshinde Mr. Shinde, before I say anything let me tell you, I am North Indian, lived in Bombay for 10 years and loved the city & people. I DO NOT support Raj Thackeray as he is spreading hate but if I listen to him carefully, he is not worng totally. He talks good but has done little for Marathis. By spreading hate, MH is not going to progress. Also, like any other politician he too is power hungry.
Moreover, let me assure you, he is MUCH richer than you think he is.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@pratapgshinde Also, he in a way will end up damaging MH. Dont forget that before Bombay, Calcutta was commercial and India's # 1 city. People belonging to the same ideology ruined CCU. Ex. ISB wanted to start school in Bombay and SS wanted reservation for Marathi’s. Result, they went to HYD and Bombay is deprived of world class business school.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
@pratapgshinde I agree that too many people coming in BOM is NOT good & at times safe. However, the way immigrants cause problems in BOM, immigrants (Sindhi, Parsi, Panjabi, Marwari, Gujju etc) r the one who have turned Bombay in Business capital on India whilst UP & Bihar provided strong labour force. Don’t forget that.
Being a "Bhaiya" myself, even I had a Marathi driver, maid and a servant in Bombay and loved all of them. They were a part of my family & I never felt like stranger to them.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
What do you expect him to do? You will not ask the same question to a Congress who has been ruling Maharashra for the last 45 years. Oh but wait - let's focus on Raj Thackeray and ask him what he has done coz they showed a taxi driver being pushed almost a 100 times on TV! Let us ignore the fact that he has a 3-year old party and opened his account only yesterday in the state assembly! How dishonest of you!
gatesrocks 2 years ago
by the way abt ur comments on exam centres .. the exams of recruitment in a state are only conducted in that state only...
rocky555567 2 years ago
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gubbi 2 years ago
That isn't the case. Anybody can apply to a job in any state from anywhere.
Couldn't post links here.
gubbi 2 years ago
He says he interrupted the Railways Exam for the benefit of local candidates and that these job opportunities don't come often.
Did he really help anyone by this? Did this really help the local candidates get a job? He spoiled whatever chances there were for the local candidates by interrupting the exam. They will just move the exam centers elsewhere next time. What if the locals get the same treatment at the other place?
He doesn't give a damn. Stop being a sheep.
gubbi 2 years ago
so u think its fair tht all the posts for Indian railways in every state go 2 ppl from outside the state?? Is it not right when he says that local jobs of any state should go 2 ppl from that state 1st?? or should all jobs be rewarded only 2 ppl from UP and Bihar coz the last railway minister was from that state?? Look at the reasons and ends not the trivialties..and mind u this has been happenin for yrs this is 1 man who has stepped u 2 support the right thing..
rocky555567 2 years ago
Maharashtrians are not banned from appearing for the exam from other states. And the debate here is really the same as globalization vs localization. Any economy that needs to progress will have to inevitably open up. And by opening up, the quality of it's citizens and their net property increases.
gubbi 2 years ago
Agreed. This is the global vs local with an added twist. The migrants are often involved in illegal consumption of state resources which they don't pay for - either housing, electricity, roads. And this often comes at an extra cost to the locals, apart from the fact that their jobs are lost. No one is banned from doing anything. And what if they don't want to move? Every local should have the prerogative to get a job in his own state first. coz he is culturally bound to his place.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Economic migration happens everywhere. The difference here it acts with political connivance - where politicians from UP encourage people to move and set base elsewhere (either on streets or govt land) and create ghettoized vote banks. Once you change the demographics of the new place, capturing state and local lower is easy. Already, SP candidates are being elected in pockets of Maharashtra due to these ghettoes.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
@gatesrocks My friend, what you are referring to as "Ghettoes" is actually offshoot of Democracy. Welcome to the free world. Once again, Jews (out numbered like hell in the world) have made their mark & contribution. You dont want to improve skill sets but just want others not to come and give you competition - that aren’t going to heppen friend.
TheArunsingh1 8 months ago
It is really easy to act radical when one is out of power and aspires for it and not when he is within the constraints of law making and reality.
Finally, we have laws and constitution which needs to be respected. If politicos themselves throw it in the air, How can you trust them to protect it? What about the common citizens who adore them? It doesn't bode well for anyone but for those who want to make cheap political gains at whatever cost. We are not an anarchy.
gubbi 2 years ago
That is why I do not agree with Raj Thackeray's inclination to take the law into his own hands even though I agree completely with his underlying views. But the fact remains that law enforcement is weak in India. Which in turn gives rise to these extra-judicial methods for resurrecting things. People lose patience, get angry and the anger boils over. At least in his interviews, he does not claim to use it as a party strategy - he often claims that the violence is spontaneous, not planned.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Whether he spoiled the chances or increased the chances for all future local candidates for years to come, only time will tell. You cannot hang him until you have seen the results. The local railway recruitment ads have already started appearing in Marathi newspapers which hitherto were appearing only in the Hindi and English newspapers.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
He specifically said he did not choose democratic process because the exams don't come often and he wanted quick results. So you have to evaluate his actions w.r.t it's goals, which is, did he get his quick results? No. He spoiled their chances.
gubbi 2 years ago
He didn't say the exams often didn't come. he said jobs are lost if you don't agitate at the right time. I am sure they conducted the exams elsewhere under security. But the authorities will think twice about railways recruitment policies in the future.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Recruitment Ad appearing in Marathi dailies is the simplest thing he could have done himself all these years without waiting for the Indian Railways if he really cared. There are NGOs and Interest Groups which can easily finance a simple recruitment Ad in a Marathi Daily. In politics, it's all about gains and timing the events. There are lots of criterion u can keep using to divide and discriminate people. You can either be open or closed. Choice is of course urs to make.
gubbi 2 years ago
UP & Biharies who cann't show a good gesture by doing small things like learning the local language or respecting the culture, how can they be good reg money to the locals? the cancer must be stopped at patna station itself!
Makenziproject 2 years ago
if biharis and Upitiies have a problem in their states is because the yhavent developed it. the governemrt sends ample amount of money to support these states. its the people who have to bring a change there. beggers shouldnt talk of self respect
Makenziproject 2 years ago
I think Raj Thackeray is misguided when he goes and beats up a taxi driver. He has a very strong underlying message. But that message gets diluted when he indulges in hooliganism. and these dumb media channels hype up by playing the same clip again and again and again....
gatesrocks 2 years ago
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y nt stop d local marathis from givin away illegal taxi licences n free electricity n mak it impossibl for such thngs to hapen..u knw beat up a few marathi corporators as well...den u wud mak a lot mor sens n prhaps gain a lot mre suport
vijayruls 2 years ago
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vijayruls 2 years ago
Anyway enuf of al dis mostly childish debate...v al understnd that der is dis problem with vaias in mumbai..most of their attitude 2wards local governmnt (or any gov for that mater) n local ppl is pathetic..accept it....bt d point is jst dont BRAND them n demand stuffs dat ruins the country...
vijayruls 2 years ago
He's a sick man..... yanchi gosht aicha chi garaj naahi....
dumbpaki1 2 years ago
Tyanchi goshi aikaichi ani samjvacha. Nahi tar tyaana excuse milte ki raj thackeray aamhala marto, breaking law, anti-national etc etc
gatesrocks 2 years ago
what do you think they are happy leaving their own states and listening to all the crap they have to listen and being treated as 3rd class citizens in their own country....no one is....you got to understand their problem...probably they are even more frustrated than yourself...give it a thought!...Your reason to the migration point makes sense i guess but using it politically to instigate violence...not really called for...these are sensitive issues and need to be dealt in a moderate manner.
aman709 2 years ago
aman, I am sympathetic to them. But I will give you a situation. But sometimes things are imposed. I will repeat what Raj said in an interview "We don't wake up in the morning and decide to bash UP/Biharis. It is being imposed and anger builds up over time and sometimes that anger overflows when people like Amar Singh and Abu Azmi come into Mumbai and talk of distributing lathis to beat marathi people". You are right - it should be dealt in moderation. But moderation has to work both ways.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
@gatesrocks : Going by your response to vijayrules qsns,do you feel UP/Biharis are fond of living on the streets?...no...its just that they cant afford...now if they cant afford,i guess the attitude should be of sympathy..after all they are your countrymen...aint it?...you cant play the moral police over here...gotta analyze things at a macro level....
aman709 2 years ago
@gatesrock ...jst for a second imagine ur state goes down on economy n infrastructure..i wud nevr want it to bt jst suppose somethn infernal hapens n mumbai n maha gets ripped...no jobs no proper life...u tel me wat wud u do...stay in wateva is left n rebuild maha which is gonna tk 50-60 yrs..or go 2 anotherstate for a btr lif...wat wud mst ob marathis do?gimme a prac ans
vijayruls 2 years ago
vijayrules, first of all there is a difference between your situation n what is happening in UP/Bihar. UP/Bihar today is coz of corrupt politicians and the feudal mindset. there are many poor people from Orissa, MP - with UP/Bihar people have a problem because of the thug mentality.
But as you say, there is an earthquake in M'tra and everything is ruined. Then I would move to UP/Bihar/TN. I will learn their culture, speak Hindi, Tamil, pay taxes, do my job and not live on the streets!
gatesrocks 2 years ago
vijayrules, if you can't call someone a migrant, then why have different states. let us do away with the concept of states. The reason why we have states is to preserve culture, facilitate governance and meet local needs. If one region has good governance and another is just living off the good state, will it not be demotivating for the good state? what happens to the local people there who have lived there for centuries?
gatesrocks 2 years ago
@gates..ya xactly wat aman has writen...u will probably get a good livin in another state as well coz i assume u hav d education n skills to do dat..nt evryone wil...2ndly altho v do hav state govs n other state owned institues bt its nt like d states are fully self-dependent n sovereign....i dnt nid 2 tel ya hw much maharashtra needs oder states 4 its survival as well..nt prosperity bt 'Survival'..
vijayruls 2 years ago
@tinku...good point...in 26/11..did ya count hw many marathi jawans died n hw many 'Bhaia' jawans did...dey risked ther lives to protect Mumbai..which is d pride ob d country nt jst maharashtra......u cant call an indian inside India a "migrant"..u jst cant
vijayruls 2 years ago
As far as raj thakre is concerned such politicains are born every single minute in bihar and up so people like u can idolise him as hero for me he is a piece of trash needs to be dumped .
tinkushukla 2 years ago
I hate every bad politician be it from anywhere . I ll tell there r thousand of marathis in maharashtra getting free elecricity ad not paying bil . U and other politicians shud have raised the issue 20-30 yrs back when govt invested the money collected as tax throughout the nation in making mumbai as the financial capital , now after development from our tax u want us to sit and see u reap benifits of efforts that is actually a contribution of all the indians and not only mrathas.
tinkushukla 2 years ago
tinkushukla, you do not listen to Raj. He says Marathis are as much responsible for this mess as migrants. Who gives illegal licenses to taxis for a few rupees or free electricity to the slums. It is the local RTO officer or the corporators who are Marathi people.
Tinku, tax is something you do on an ongoing basis. You can't pay tax once 50 years back and then claim the fruits forever. You have to pay tax every year while you are consuming the resources of the state. Bad logic
gatesrocks 2 years ago
@GATESROCKS:
get this in writing kee log inter state migrate nahin kar sakte from indian government....maoist& aussies ko bhi support karo...un logon kee vichaar dhaara bhi tum logon se milti hai...ab se JAI MAHARASHTRA bolna chorh ke JAI MAHARASHTRA,JAI MAOIST,JAI AUSSIES bolna shuru karo...aur bhi support base badega...kyun?
Theohohoho 2 years ago
Ohohoho, I repeat - I do not support the violence of Raj Thackeray, even if it just pushing ONE taxi driver. I am only supporting his underlying views. I also support the injustice faced by Naxalites in the past. but beheading police officers is not the same as pushing a taxi driver. Naxalites have gone beyond sympathy levels. And do not compare this against Aussies. Indians by and large are not illegal migrants who go and live on the streets and get free electricity. Do not oversimplify.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
U both didnt understood my point ok , if mumbai is the financial capital its bcoz of all the non marathis like the primeministers , the actors , dhirubhai ambani , i m not talking of biharis , i m talking of the indians who paid tax from every where and contributed the central govt in building BSE here ok... Another think mr gate u seem to be that kind of person who will embace ur brother if he is success and ignore him if he is not . First lift ur morale to be called as a human and the maratha
tinkushukla 2 years ago
Even if I were to believe that Mumbai was built only by non-Marathis, the fact is today - Mumbai is a part of Maharashtra. 60-70% of the people speak Marathi. Today we pay tax for generating jobs, building roads. I really don't care if Ambani paid his tax 20 years ago. He is not doing us a favor by paying tax. It is his duty as is the duty of the migrants. The migrants get free electricity, housing living on the streets, plum jobs in railways while the local citizens go hungry. It is not fair.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
It is not about being successful or unsuccessful. I don't have personal animosity towards poor people. But you have to accept that they are poor because people like Mayawati are busy building statues. Who is supposed to question Mayawati or Mulayam? If Raj raises his voice, you accuse him of breaking the country. So what are we supposed to do? Just sit quietly while millions from UP and Bihar swamp Maharashtra??
gatesrocks 2 years ago
I challenge u the day reservation is declared in mnc for people from here not a single mnc is going to come bcoz they choose the best be it from anywhere. One more u r so much proud today just give the credit to english who lived here and developed it for their own benefit , u shud have said the same thing to dhiru bhai ambani who was not marathi , u shud have avoided seeing amitabh films but he is the bap of mumbai and he comes from mumbai, not a single marathi pm is in the count .
tinkushukla 2 years ago
Mr. Shukla we don't deny that every mumbaikar has contributed to the developement of Mumbai. Our point is "RHE LOCAL MAN" (including those who are living in maharashtra since 15 years) should get the jobs. There are about 70% marathi people in New Jersi, America. We never said that their developement is because of us. There are so many Marathi people living in Delhi, Kolakata. Bengulru. We dont say that we developed them. then why are you making such foolish statements?
PraSadaye 2 years ago
70% marathis in NJ...70 % of wat..do u actually suggest dat 70% of all ppl in NJ are Marathis.....he he...den hw many indians v hav der ..lik 99%...u r a funny guy
vijayruls 2 years ago
I will continue to watch Amitabh movies because Amitabh did not migrate from UP and built his slum on the streets. He did not steal free power from the electricity poles. He did not write on the walls of Mumbai " Mumbai will soon be ours". He did not drive illegal taxis in Mumbai. Ambani created millions and millions of jobs for Mumbai and India. We do not have to worry about people who contribute whether they are UP, Bihari, gujrati or even Pakistanis!
gatesrocks 2 years ago
U r a real fool do u think that mumbai is developed because of marathis foolish fellow , the whole country has cotributed , and if mumbai is the financial capital its bcoz every one has contributed . One more thing u fat ass i hate all the bad politicians whether it be laloo or any body else , but they r not traitor like marathi politician who work with daood ibrahim and chota shakeel shameless fellow , and i tell u few facts , first primeminister from up e, first president from bihar
tinkushukla 2 years ago
Whether Mumbai was developed by Biharis or Martians is immaterial. We as Maharshtrians pay the huge tax for living in Mumbai. UP/Bihar don't pay that tax. We will be glad to accommodate all the Biharis and UP'ites if UP and Bihar can give us $20 billion every year for taking care of your migrants! Ask your uncle or aunts to pay for the education, food and clothing of your family and allow them to stay in their house forever. Let us see if they are your friends!
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Isn't it sad inspite of FOUR PM's coming from UP and President from Bihar - still UP and Bihar have the lowest literacy, the highest infant mortality, the most Polio diseases and the most lawlessness?? Develop your states - then come and argue.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
So called marathis u r a real fool, leaders like raj thakrey misguides people like u to be a known politician and u start fightig. U must think like an indian and idolise people like sunil dutt who often visited dharavi and was a respected person everywhere . U all r educated , if a state in country is backward rather than making conditions worse work to make things better. Remember there are only two classes , politicians and voters ur vote decides the natios future.
tinkushukla 2 years ago
Marathi people are probably more Indian than the UP and Bihari politicians ever will be. If the Mulayams and Mayawatis and Laloos and Paswans considered themselves Indians, they would have made an attempt to develop their own states and create jobs for their own peoplle instead of letting them migrate and being a burden in other states. Being Indian means able to take care of yourself. Not sitting on your ass and building statues and letting the rest of the country bear the burden of UP/Bihar.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Good for you if u r not...maybe its not as popular with marathis...but emotion is similar to that of the term bhaiyyas.its something like when u see a marathi with the below mentioned traits,you may say "Look at that idiot ghati"....sumthng like when u c a bihari spitting on the road,u may say "Bhaiyya sale"!....hehe iv become a teacher now...woahhh vat an intellectual comment frm my end
Theohohoho 2 years ago
woahhh...dudes and dudettes....pehle samjho main kya keh raha hoon....i said just like UP-Bihari -> Bhaiyyas...similarly,Marathis -> Ghatis...yes it is a derogatory term(just as bhaiyyas - just as pakis)....symbolizing these properties namely lazy,unclouth,good for nothing people....just as you refer to biharis as unkempt,filthy and the ones who spit here and there...got it now...n dnt worry i know my geography for that matter regarding meaning of Ghatis!
Theohohoho 2 years ago
I don't know about Bhaiyyas but whether the term Ghati is derogatory is controversial. I think people who don't know the language attempt to use it offensively but I don't think most Maharshtrians are offended - not as much as you think. I personally am not offended. If you call me lazy, I will be offended. But Ghati ≠ Lazy.
gatesrocks 2 years ago
Ghatis mean people from the mountains. Not lazy. What is the point in provoking your own countrymen? Would it not be better if UP and Bihar increased their literacy rates from 40% to at least 60-70% which is the national average. Or reduced the number of kids produced by a UP/Bihari woman from 5 kids to 1-2 kids?
gatesrocks 2 years ago
If bhaiyas from UP & Bihar think they are so great why do they have to migrate outside? We see bhaiyaas getting kicked in Karnataka, Goa, Assam and Tamilnadu. If bhaiyas think they are hard-working why migrate when UP an Bihar need the most help.
NPegasus 2 years ago
yeahhh marathi men dance on Ganesh Chaturthi.....n wat do bhayaz do....oggle n look at women in d most pervert wayy, try to touch them....dat wud make yu go n slap them... ............ !!
anushkaa0025 2 years ago
Ghaties meanz ppl living on the Ghats of Shayadri mountain range....n not lazzyy idiot...n wat evr yu thinkk........
1st know d language n den talk.......!
anushkaa0025 2 years ago
Whatever you say.................. he is a awesome orator. The 10 day countdown was too cool :D
harshavardhan83 2 years ago
Raj makes everyone piss in thier pants, people fear him !
cortez666666 2 years ago