Everything has changed at Swanston Street over the last 25 years - in 1988 street cars and W-class trams played the dominant role, but today low-floor trams and even Z and B-class trams stroll through the street and there's little car traffic.
Expect Swanston Street Walk to be 100% car free like Bourke Street Mall, and also expect new low-floor trams rolling from the Dandenong plant late this year.
Is it my imagination, or were the trams more frequent then than they are now down Swanston Street? I used to study in Collins Street in 1988, and there never seemed to be much waiting time for a tram back then, now it seems you're waiting forever....
@tramman82 No doubt you're right. Problem is, because of the fact the new trams are wheelchair accessible, the capacity of these larger trams seating wise is no greater than the old ones....
@nupthatisit yep and also, with this low floor crap the bogies come up into the body of the tram thus losing even more seating/standing room, god, id rather live in 1988 melbourne than 2010 melbourne anyday, quality AND quantity! I loved watching trams as a young kid, heaps of W's, orange Z class trams and the odd A class, now they are all the same, nothing really stands out anymore.
Dear IS1943, as you've seen, my nick shows that I'm interested in history of public transport and for this, now (dec 2009) I'm in Melbourne for the 2nd time to take pics of trams. I come from Rome and with this movie I've had the possibility to see Flinders Street Station more than 20 years ago, when there was not Fed Square. The question is this. Oh Lord, Why am not I from Melbourne? Why did I arrive here so late? Were there still older trams than W6?
Yes. The 'biggest' claim is not completely clear. St. Petersburg, Russia used to have a larger system, but they have withdrawn large sections of it over the past fifteen years. Some of the other large ones at around 190-220 km of track are Milano, Italy; Vienna, Austria; Berlin, Germany; Moscow, Russia. There are some even larger systems in Germany that run partly on railways, which are not counted as tram trackage (Karlsruhe).
This would of been filmed from Princes bridge Station, i have a video of mates and I driving down Swanston st in 1988 before it was Swanston st walk,that shows pre-Melbourne central with the chimney bare,once a work out how to transfer video to dvd i will upload it. :-]
Back then, they still used trolley poles instead of pantographs on most trams in Melbourne. How nice! Now tramcars with trolley poles have gone totally extinct there!!
If i'm not wrong there is still one with trolley poles running on the City Circle line, albeit most of the vintage ones on that free service route now sport pantos only. As such, it will definitely require some sheer luck to chance upon that rare trolley pole nowadays, and only on the City Circle. I'll be in Melb for a week-long holiday from next Wed and hope to have more actual updates on the city's tram network when I'm there.
Everything has changed at Swanston Street over the last 25 years - in 1988 street cars and W-class trams played the dominant role, but today low-floor trams and even Z and B-class trams stroll through the street and there's little car traffic.
Expect Swanston Street Walk to be 100% car free like Bourke Street Mall, and also expect new low-floor trams rolling from the Dandenong plant late this year.
GratisEngel 1 month ago
It's amazing how much that one intersection has changed in 23 years
daylesfordcommunity 3 months ago
@daylesfordcommunity YEAH agree, Swann Lager died a horrible death LOL ( Billboard on top of Yong and Jacksons)
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Romerjon17 8 months ago
This is really interesting...thanks
Janeblueheaven7 1 year ago
Is it my imagination, or were the trams more frequent then than they are now down Swanston Street? I used to study in Collins Street in 1988, and there never seemed to be much waiting time for a tram back then, now it seems you're waiting forever....
nupthatisit 2 years ago
@nupthatisit Probably a case of more smaller trams running then & less bigger trams running now :(
tramman82 1 year ago
@tramman82 No doubt you're right. Problem is, because of the fact the new trams are wheelchair accessible, the capacity of these larger trams seating wise is no greater than the old ones....
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit yep and also, with this low floor crap the bogies come up into the body of the tram thus losing even more seating/standing room, god, id rather live in 1988 melbourne than 2010 melbourne anyday, quality AND quantity! I loved watching trams as a young kid, heaps of W's, orange Z class trams and the odd A class, now they are all the same, nothing really stands out anymore.
tramman82 1 year ago
Dear IS1943, as you've seen, my nick shows that I'm interested in history of public transport and for this, now (dec 2009) I'm in Melbourne for the 2nd time to take pics of trams. I come from Rome and with this movie I've had the possibility to see Flinders Street Station more than 20 years ago, when there was not Fed Square. The question is this. Oh Lord, Why am not I from Melbourne? Why did I arrive here so late? Were there still older trams than W6?
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tramvinicyus 2 years ago
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Did you know that Melbourne has the world's largest tram network!
ashleybrient 1 year ago
@ashleybrient True :D
Romerjon17 8 months ago
@tramvinicyus Man try getting an attraction to Women not Trams LOL
OutlawMCC 2 months ago
@OutlawMCC
Too late mate! CU in Rome!
tramvinicyus2 2 months ago
Is it true that tram in Melbourne have about 250 km of tracks? And that it is the biggest tram system in the world?
krizvasa 2 years ago
Yes. The 'biggest' claim is not completely clear. St. Petersburg, Russia used to have a larger system, but they have withdrawn large sections of it over the past fifteen years. Some of the other large ones at around 190-220 km of track are Milano, Italy; Vienna, Austria; Berlin, Germany; Moscow, Russia. There are some even larger systems in Germany that run partly on railways, which are not counted as tram trackage (Karlsruhe).
rbrhood 2 years ago
I know... What happened and is happening in Russian tram cities is very sad.
krizvasa 2 years ago
This would of been filmed from Princes bridge Station, i have a video of mates and I driving down Swanston st in 1988 before it was Swanston st walk,that shows pre-Melbourne central with the chimney bare,once a work out how to transfer video to dvd i will upload it. :-]
Gezza1967 2 years ago
The trams look just as busy on Swanston Street back then as they do today!
melb223 2 years ago
ITs CULTURE BABY
SaintTony1968 2 years ago
Great to see some of the old MMTB Volvo B59 Buses passing by. Would be nice to see more of them.
lucasmayr 2 years ago
they saved one at newport, last they ran was in about 2000! They've been gone a while now.
fringemagnet1 2 years ago
SOUNDS OF FLINDERS STREET
SaintTony1968 2 years ago
No junk food stores i love it ..
3aw77 2 years ago
Do you have an exact date of when this was filmed?
EliteVideoGamer 3 years ago
unfortunately no I havent.
is1943 3 years ago
all these unique trams gone WHY!
fringemagnet1 3 years ago
Too old (built in 1920s) and cost $ to keep up.
Wally1967 2 years ago
actually the W6 were built more like in the 1940s/50s, the W2s were the ones built in the 1920s, they went off the rails in the late 80s
nupthatisit 2 years ago
I can remember when Federation Square used to have a big, ugly building on it...what?!
You can still ride the old W class trams on route 78/79 and 30.
TimChuma 3 years ago
Gas & Fuel office building that ugly brown building.
Wally1967 2 years ago
Note to self, do not try humour on Youtube comments.
TimChuma 2 years ago
Crazy
lauriehammy 3 years ago
Back then, they still used trolley poles instead of pantographs on most trams in Melbourne. How nice! Now tramcars with trolley poles have gone totally extinct there!!
jemdude22 3 years ago
i dont know of any in melbourne still with trolley poles?
Haydz01 2 years ago
If i'm not wrong there is still one with trolley poles running on the City Circle line, albeit most of the vintage ones on that free service route now sport pantos only. As such, it will definitely require some sheer luck to chance upon that rare trolley pole nowadays, and only on the City Circle. I'll be in Melb for a week-long holiday from next Wed and hope to have more actual updates on the city's tram network when I'm there.
jemdude22 2 years ago
very very nice!!!!!!
747K 3 years ago
Thank you,I have also been on the San Diego Trolley.
is1943 3 years ago