This is better, no this is better, no this is better, listen to you fucking retards. You put any martial arts in the hands of the right person its effective, alot of you dumbshits forget that in a streefight ( i bounced for 2 years) any training whatever that may be mma, boxing, krav magna, bla bla bla bla goes out the window when its not all rules, and staged practice sessions where the person willingly gives you their arm to break. Dont matter what you know ANYONE can get knocked out.
@Crimescene26 Your right, anyone can get knocked out, but its really hard for a good MMA fighters who knows how to block, dodge, and counter, to get knocked out. Are you kidding me? Besides weapons, MMA fights are usually worse and harder than your average club fight.
@caltraskoo He did, We used this move often & the momentum of your body turning snaps the elbow. This is a self defense move & if done quickly? no tap, just a crack. Extremely effective, you can slow it down a touch & direct the opponent to the ground as well without the break.
To use this is competition... well if you eliminate this you have to get rid of ankle locks too because Imanari has shredded more knees then just about anyone in the sport, by the time they tap its too late
all you dudes talking about krap magna suck! i havent seen one instance where a krap magna guy has actually fought and won. all i see is a bunch of set up demos of krap magna. until you fags have real footage of an actual fight your krap magna techniches are just a theory.
Look at his fight Vs Keith Wisniewski where he does this and breaks a dude's arm. Just punch in "Shinya Aoki Vs Keith Wisniewski" into the YouTube search bar. In the right situation, it works a treat.
of this, the krav magra fighter can drop you in a heartbeat. be sure to wear a cup too because krav magra loves to do groin strikes. and im sure if an mma fighters puts a krav magra guy on his back, its all over but the first rule of street fighting is never go to the ground. you always assume there is more than 1 opponent. multiple opponents and weapons, krav magra wins. both have good points and depends on the circumstance.
fight how you train, and in krav magra they do alot of strikes that mma fighters do not train for or have to worry about such as eye gouges, head butts, groin strikes.believe me, all it takes is one of those strikes to drop someone. but special forces is right about mma fighters having the strength and speed advantage. thats why i have a set of moves for mma and a modified set of moves for street defense. if you keep this in mind mma fighters can have the advantage. but if you do not be mindful
i do mma and traditional martial arts and i can say that it is a double edged sword. in some situations, tad martial arts are better. in others, mma is better suited. say you are at a bar and someone has a broken bottle, pool cue, trad is much better. you cannot trear a weapon like it is someone punching you. totally diffrent techniques.i often hear that mma fighters will break rules in a street fight as well but you gotta remember, when you get in a real fight and the adrenaline is flowing, you
@specialforces69 you just have to remember, there is a difference between the sport of mixed martial arts and self defense. Sure, a good MMA fighter is probably gonna win most street fights, just not against someone versed in something like Krav Maga.
@specialforces69 MMA does not lack the things you state. Competition mma does...because there are rules against permanently maiming or killling your opponent. The is no such martial art called mma. As you know (i hope you do), mma is the practice of any martial art/fighting styles one deems neccesary to be well- rounded. There are no particular fighting styles that one must practice/study to become a mma fighter. Many mma fughters know how to kill or maim people but do not do so in the ring.
I'm not saying don't practice... But I am saying that humans are better than animals at fighting because we can use things, animals are born with teeth and claws ect. We are born with hands. While we CAN attack with our body, why would we focus SO much on it when it's hardly practical... How many times do you think Machida (My favorite) has used his skills outside the gym??? How many people in war died by the triangle choke VS How many died by a sword or a gun... Come on... Lets be HONEST...
Krav Maga guy has trained for real fighting and will think to pick up the closest chair and beat the MMA guy who's mind goes to boxing right away... There's a difference...
I never trained Aikido in my life, I don't like Aikido, I think it has good moves, like this one, but I also think a style that has ZERO offense and only weird stand up locks is very hard to do, if not immpossible. But I like many of it's techniques, especially in the clinch, like when Aoki pulled that move out of no where. I use wrist locks alot in the clinch that are moves in aikido, aikido just uses them in fancy ways that look cool.
MMA is not very realistic... It's a duel of skill, not a battle for your life. You want to see a real life martial art look into some Israel Krav Maga or something. Rolling on the ground for 3 5 minute rounds is not real at all. Someone trying to stab you with a knife and you having a split second to block it and run away or pick up a chair or something is more realistic. Getting away from 3 guys with sticks. Or how fast can you pull out your pistol. THAT is real, MMA is just a duel of glory...
This move is popular in Aikido, aikido works, just not as fancy as they show it in demos. You guys saw Aoki break the guys arm with this move right? THAT is what happens when you don't flip in a aikido move... That is what it really looks like, not fancy, brutal =)
Anyone who says something doesn't work is a fool these are movements that have been being modified and adjusted to work since the acient olympic games... Do you think you know better then thousands of years of practice study and innovation?
why do ppl talk like mma and the STREET are worlds apart,if u can bang you can fuckin bang ,simples!ppl are like yeh so wat about mma i'd hit him with a bat, bite,eye gauge ,kick him in the balls!MMA fighters can do this too you know dickheads just we already have an arsenal that will ruin you anyways !peace,to all the muppets who dont take part, just observe and talk a good fight!
@sktigerjs Cans? yes he snapped the cans arms, but hes won against decent American and Brazilian and even Japanese competition. Good names hes won against are.
Rob McCollough, Rich Clementi, Lyle Beerhom, Eddie Alvares, Joachin Hansen, Geisias Calvacante, George Sotripulous. Those are very good MMA fighters, if you don't think those MMA fighters are worth anything then you have no respect for the sport.
hehe shiya aoki was a police officer this is a text book arrest technique for police officers hehehe he used it in MMA effective on the street and the sport....
hes not choking up high enough on the arm. his elbow was never locked out wtf? easy way to slip this weak "arm lock". simply swing in front of him facing him. right arm grabs his left leg drive through him pushing with your locked arm.
@juliealyvia if you do it fast enough it can break the arm (as Aoki did against Wisniewski). And you can transition to a standard armbar if you can retain control of the wrist.
Is this legal in bjj competitions?
poolboyinla 2 months ago
This is better, no this is better, no this is better, listen to you fucking retards. You put any martial arts in the hands of the right person its effective, alot of you dumbshits forget that in a streefight ( i bounced for 2 years) any training whatever that may be mma, boxing, krav magna, bla bla bla bla goes out the window when its not all rules, and staged practice sessions where the person willingly gives you their arm to break. Dont matter what you know ANYONE can get knocked out.
Crimescene26 4 months ago
@Crimescene26 Your right, anyone can get knocked out, but its really hard for a good MMA fighters who knows how to block, dodge, and counter, to get knocked out. Are you kidding me? Besides weapons, MMA fights are usually worse and harder than your average club fight.
myloveforMMA 2 months ago
Shinya Aoki vs. Keith Wisniewski
corporacionmonstruo 4 months ago
should be illegal in MMA, this move give sno time to tap. I believe aoki broke someone's arm in this manner.
caltraskoo 5 months ago
@caltraskoo He did, We used this move often & the momentum of your body turning snaps the elbow. This is a self defense move & if done quickly? no tap, just a crack. Extremely effective, you can slow it down a touch & direct the opponent to the ground as well without the break.
To use this is competition... well if you eliminate this you have to get rid of ankle locks too because Imanari has shredded more knees then just about anyone in the sport, by the time they tap its too late
sunnsu 1 month ago
Is this move legal in the UFC or Strikeforce?
ricyorb 5 months ago
I have a feint remembrance of aoki doing this in a real fight accept the guys forearm was in a 90 degree angle going the same way hes pulling
illmindful 6 months ago
nasty, nasty move. this move is best left for someone you really don't like and don't want to ever train with again.
rohr808 6 months ago
Subtitles please. lol
insdel2004 6 months ago
this is waki gatame.
illegal in judo
oyan1984 7 months ago
/watch?v=Q_718dOW09k
eastkilla5 8 months ago
@shurikenxhunterv2 I bet you would take him seriously with those rainbow pants wrapped around your neck in a deep triangle choke.
KilroyWasHere444 9 months ago
@KilroyWasHere444 u sound mad
murderousintent 8 months ago
@murderousintent no,i'm smiling because of my witty rebuttal actually.
KilroyWasHere444 8 months ago
@KilroyWasHere444 he already said he takes him seriously with his rainbow pants on, so you're not witty, you're an idiot.
gleader 6 months ago
@gleader uh.....blow me?
KilroyWasHere444 6 months ago
@KilroyWasHere444 You're so witty.
gleader 6 months ago
This move is too brutal for me e_e
realfreakaynaughtay 10 months ago
In one of Shynia Aoki HL videos I sow this move and broken arm. Still not serios???
Boriskordic 1 year ago
this looks like a good gun defense xD
that1grappler 1 year ago
all you dudes talking about krap magna suck! i havent seen one instance where a krap magna guy has actually fought and won. all i see is a bunch of set up demos of krap magna. until you fags have real footage of an actual fight your krap magna techniches are just a theory.
clebervic 1 year ago
Look at his fight Vs Keith Wisniewski where he does this and breaks a dude's arm. Just punch in "Shinya Aoki Vs Keith Wisniewski" into the YouTube search bar. In the right situation, it works a treat.
skraddypoo 1 year ago
of this, the krav magra fighter can drop you in a heartbeat. be sure to wear a cup too because krav magra loves to do groin strikes. and im sure if an mma fighters puts a krav magra guy on his back, its all over but the first rule of street fighting is never go to the ground. you always assume there is more than 1 opponent. multiple opponents and weapons, krav magra wins. both have good points and depends on the circumstance.
acidkid1984 1 year ago
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KilroyWasHere444 9 months ago
fight how you train, and in krav magra they do alot of strikes that mma fighters do not train for or have to worry about such as eye gouges, head butts, groin strikes.believe me, all it takes is one of those strikes to drop someone. but special forces is right about mma fighters having the strength and speed advantage. thats why i have a set of moves for mma and a modified set of moves for street defense. if you keep this in mind mma fighters can have the advantage. but if you do not be mindful
acidkid1984 1 year ago
i do mma and traditional martial arts and i can say that it is a double edged sword. in some situations, tad martial arts are better. in others, mma is better suited. say you are at a bar and someone has a broken bottle, pool cue, trad is much better. you cannot trear a weapon like it is someone punching you. totally diffrent techniques.i often hear that mma fighters will break rules in a street fight as well but you gotta remember, when you get in a real fight and the adrenaline is flowing, you
acidkid1984 1 year ago
@specialforces69 Thats a very good point that I overlooked. I also train MMA in Cincinnati at JG MMA so I should have kept that in mind.
jtwidmer 1 year ago
@specialforces69 you just have to remember, there is a difference between the sport of mixed martial arts and self defense. Sure, a good MMA fighter is probably gonna win most street fights, just not against someone versed in something like Krav Maga.
jtwidmer 1 year ago
@specialforces69 MMA does not lack the things you state. Competition mma does...because there are rules against permanently maiming or killling your opponent. The is no such martial art called mma. As you know (i hope you do), mma is the practice of any martial art/fighting styles one deems neccesary to be well- rounded. There are no particular fighting styles that one must practice/study to become a mma fighter. Many mma fughters know how to kill or maim people but do not do so in the ring.
islandmonkey007 1 year ago
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islandmonkey007 1 year ago
I'm implying that it takes ALOT of skill to use bombs, because if you do it wrong... You will kill yourself and or all your friends... >.>
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
I get it, but knife fighting and weapon fighting are martial arts >.>
Especially bombs, you MIGHT want some training when dealing with bombs haha
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
I'm not saying don't practice... But I am saying that humans are better than animals at fighting because we can use things, animals are born with teeth and claws ect. We are born with hands. While we CAN attack with our body, why would we focus SO much on it when it's hardly practical... How many times do you think Machida (My favorite) has used his skills outside the gym??? How many people in war died by the triangle choke VS How many died by a sword or a gun... Come on... Lets be HONEST...
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
Krav Maga guy has trained for real fighting and will think to pick up the closest chair and beat the MMA guy who's mind goes to boxing right away... There's a difference...
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
It Looks like a variation of Waki gatame.
samluke8121 1 year ago
I never trained Aikido in my life, I don't like Aikido, I think it has good moves, like this one, but I also think a style that has ZERO offense and only weird stand up locks is very hard to do, if not immpossible. But I like many of it's techniques, especially in the clinch, like when Aoki pulled that move out of no where. I use wrist locks alot in the clinch that are moves in aikido, aikido just uses them in fancy ways that look cool.
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
@GuamKomudo
Yes. A lot of different arts have good moves. A lot of stuff is just untested in a real meaningful way like MMA competition.
ThePainFactoryCom 1 year ago
MMA is not very realistic... It's a duel of skill, not a battle for your life. You want to see a real life martial art look into some Israel Krav Maga or something. Rolling on the ground for 3 5 minute rounds is not real at all. Someone trying to stab you with a knife and you having a split second to block it and run away or pick up a chair or something is more realistic. Getting away from 3 guys with sticks. Or how fast can you pull out your pistol. THAT is real, MMA is just a duel of glory...
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
@GuamKomudo israel is full of pussys....just abunch of cheap shots, thats about it
TheDonTheSon 1 year ago
Yeah... How do you cheap shot your way out of EVERY country around you trying to kill you... They're badass, get over it. The BIBLE even says so LOL
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
@GuamKomudo You... sound very very very gay.
sktigerjs 2 months ago
This move is popular in Aikido, aikido works, just not as fancy as they show it in demos. You guys saw Aoki break the guys arm with this move right? THAT is what happens when you don't flip in a aikido move... That is what it really looks like, not fancy, brutal =)
GuamKomudo 1 year ago
i just seen it...had to see it to believe it...cause that looks like a stupid move until u see him dislocate his elbow!..
HolyHavoc444 1 year ago
Anyone who says something doesn't work is a fool these are movements that have been being modified and adjusted to work since the acient olympic games... Do you think you know better then thousands of years of practice study and innovation?
polethiopian 1 year ago
I will break many arms with this technique...
*evil laugh*
zx6rtt 1 year ago
Crazy that it is a pretty brutal break with no real stability that offers an opportunity to tap.
Fletch828 1 year ago
Is this a Judo technique? it works pretty well
redcapKO 1 year ago
@redcapKO yeah, its called a waki gatami
Panzerfaust26 1 year ago
this is who they should have bought to the ufc not gomi , his fight was terrible
kevsenior 1 year ago
@kevsenior gomi didnt look that bad against florian.
xgladar 1 year ago
why do ppl talk like mma and the STREET are worlds apart,if u can bang you can fuckin bang ,simples!ppl are like yeh so wat about mma i'd hit him with a bat, bite,eye gauge ,kick him in the balls!MMA fighters can do this too you know dickheads just we already have an arsenal that will ruin you anyways !peace,to all the muppets who dont take part, just observe and talk a good fight!
ilovejenm1 1 year ago 8
Aoki is an arm breakin' FIEND! Can't think of another MMA fighter who's snapped more elbows in the ring.
Doroboneko 2 years ago 3
@Doroboneko Like you say... In the ring
rencilein 2 years ago 2
@Doroboneko brock lesner
kappkids 1 year ago
@Doroboneko Only reason Aoki's been snapping arms an shit is cus he's fighting cans, see how well he did in the US... yeah not so well.
sktigerjs 2 months ago
@sktigerjs Cans? yes he snapped the cans arms, but hes won against decent American and Brazilian and even Japanese competition. Good names hes won against are.
Rob McCollough, Rich Clementi, Lyle Beerhom, Eddie Alvares, Joachin Hansen, Geisias Calvacante, George Sotripulous. Those are very good MMA fighters, if you don't think those MMA fighters are worth anything then you have no respect for the sport.
myloveforMMA 2 months ago
It was used in the ring. he broke Keith Wisniewski's arm with it. In your defense, it was broken horribly well.
Invisibledafiied 2 years ago
hehe shiya aoki was a police officer this is a text book arrest technique for police officers hehehe he used it in MMA effective on the street and the sport....
gabbomushy 2 years ago
hes not choking up high enough on the arm. his elbow was never locked out wtf? easy way to slip this weak "arm lock". simply swing in front of him facing him. right arm grabs his left leg drive through him pushing with your locked arm.
juliealyvia 2 years ago
He won one of is fights with this exact move,and broke the guys arm.
ksired 2 years ago 3
@juliealyvia watch any aoki highlight reel and you'll see this breaking an arm in real life.
renshumainichi 2 years ago
@juliealyvia if you do it fast enough it can break the arm (as Aoki did against Wisniewski). And you can transition to a standard armbar if you can retain control of the wrist.
thinkpad20 2 years ago 3
simply do it fast enough to breake the arm, as Aoki did
monkfg 2 years ago 3
yup against keith wisniewski
whitestrand 2 years ago
Mate, watch the fight where he does this move, it's brutal, you see adn hear the guys arms just snap. S'all in the hips!
Toxeh 2 years ago
This guy Aoki was Amazing!!!!!
57mily 2 years ago
Looks great. Does Aoki have an Instructional Series by any chance?
IrishKyokushin 2 years ago 4
umm.. dude.
unityrover 2 years ago
this is the best thing to do when being over hook..
D3MONZOUL 2 years ago
japonês um golpe esse adversário golpe no Claro que.
Ukabumba 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i wonder if it's possible to headbutt him while he's doing it. not saying the move is bad
Scyeth 3 years ago
I believe he broke a guy's arm with it in a fight. It's a lot faster when done in "real life."
ThomasRiekki 3 years ago 27
Yeah, that was the fight with Keith Wisniewski, although I think I remember hearing it was just a dislocated elbow, and not actually a broken arm.
Still a nice technique.
xScotty87x 3 years ago
@xScotty87x
yeah just a dislocation...
pnishimu 1 year ago
@xScotty87x It broke at the forearm You can see it in the video if you look close enough. I'm afraid to try this on my sparring partners lmao.
AudienceKiller66 1 year ago
not the same move, but once that look like that but the arm of the opponent is on your back so if you make a twist with your body, crack,
xmaurox 3 years ago
yeah I agree... I really don't think the move he used on Winsniewski was the same as this but more of a judo throw variation
RynoZ 3 years ago
It's the same move, he just did it more forcefully in the fight, and is doing it slow to demonsrate in the video.
StreetFighterFanClub 2 years ago
@ThomasRiekki Yes. Yes he did.. it was awesome and so fast that he didn't even realize that he had broken the guys arm.
phys1c 11 months ago
slick transition to an armbar....nice
watchreality 3 years ago
yeah that was just nasty when he nearly ripped that guys arm off
TheProdigy15 3 years ago 6
hell yeah. I remember this. This is how he broke that one guy's arm. That fight made me love Aoki.
GreatestCreation909 3 years ago
yaaaah.. he fuxed that guy up.. if u pause it u can see his arm broken backwards 90 degrees ALAKBAR
abahawas 3 years ago
Hmmm...não sei se isso realmente funciona. Mas vou tentar e postar aqui se é "bão memo".
sakurabaLP 3 years ago
Claro que funciona é um golpe clássico, esse japonês já quebrou o braço de um adversário com esse golpe no MMA.
JIUJITSUMAN22 3 years ago