U.S. abducts Canadian (Live Free or Die rally, NH, Ron Paul)

[crogsvien]

at least the coins are real money

[bweazel]

So wait. What is their crime? Fraud or something?

[Souls4Freedom]

Hmmm ~ how many have gone to their local stores and found a little note informing them that they do not accept bills higher than a 20. A little hippocritical on the governments side wouldn't you say?

I'm sure they would take a pure silver coin though!!!

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[schwitt01]

Cool vid. Very informative, very clear.

Legal tender is based on mafia mentality, since the fractional reserve ensures that Banks will receive real resources and property in exchange for numbers tapped on a screen, when payments default. Consolidation of wealth, massive source of inflation. We need to free that man (but I'm in the UK, so I have little power to do so).

Hilter came to power at a time when rural Germans were apparently increasingly bartering goods. It soon stopped afterwards.

[RodneyHampton]

Thanks for another great report Dave R. That guy is getting the shaft.

[Elephantintheroom01]

Save that poor man.

[RationalDischarge]

Only rapists and murderers should get 40-year prison sentences. How the HELL can this kind of miscarriage of justice go unchallenged?

[hedsift123]

And where are the defenders of the 10th amendment, the courts, our judges who 'are blind to politics', who invoke a state's right against another and especially against the Fed whose right is secondary to a sovereign state in the union? Our country has been stolen by the federal reserve bank with the federal government being complicit in the theft. All these things must happen before the one world leader is placed into power.

[woodlandcammo27]

When I cash my paychecks at the bank they always ask me how I want it back. I say in silver or gold. They look at me funny and a couple times they brought a manager over. I then had to school them on our fiat currency. Usually thought the young bank tellers are more jip and know what I am talking about,.

[dbl79]

a neighbor of mine who is 78 years old found a ww2 era grenade that he forgot he had. he brought it home form the Army when he served. so he called the sheriff to see what he should do with it. the sbi and jttf came to his house with a backhoe, dug a 4 foot hole buried it then detonated it with plastic explosives. now charges are pending on him. you try to do the right thing and you get in trouble for it. kinda makes ya wonder WHY do the right thing if its not gonna get ya anywhere

[grillurnuts]

So what about the Pittsboro Plenty in North Carolina? is that also an act of terrorism?

[eurohim]

Damn it, I want some liberty dollars.

[p00lman]

It doesn't matter whether or not he actually harmed anyone. He broke a law and got jail time for it.

That's what happens in a society.

[p00lman]

What does "law is not truth" mean?

The truth is that America has laws, and if you break them, you get punished.

[p00lman]

No, it doesn't.

But it does mean that if you live in that country, you have to obey those laws, just as the police have to uphold them.

[RidleyReport]

Do you follow all 75,000 pages of Federal law?  Are you sure?

[sugarpuddin88]

Liberty & freedom are in an inverse relation to the sum of laws on a countries books!

[p00lman]

If I know it's illegal, I don't intentionally try to defy it.

[mcgrawtim123]

Thanks Ridley. I wrote to Innes. Hope they release him back to Canada.

[JosiahsBackpack]

I think that we ought to start making 1/10, 1/4, 1/2 and 1ounce of silver and gold. Then call them a barter round let's say. Then just swap them.

I think the problem in his case is that he had $20 symbols on them and called them a DOLLAR. Don't even go there. Just put the ounce denomination on it and let it go. I would think that the government would not have a leg to stand on at that point I mean all you are buying is silver and gold at that point.

[JosiahsBackpack]

It isn't illegal to buy, sell and barter silver and gold is it? Well, for now anyways.

[p00lman]

He made CURRENCY out of those metals. That's what is illegal.

[HHODork]

if you trade a chicken to someone who mowed your lawn, then you turned that chicken into currency. Is that illegal? To take property and use it in exchange for goods or services? That is what you are calling illegal?

[p00lman]

No, a chicken is not legal tender, no matter how tender it may be.

[HHODork]

If you use an item, any item in trade for goods or services and both parties agree on the value of it, it is legal tender between the two parties for that transaction.

[p00lman]

That's not what legal tender is.

Legal tender is "is an offered payment that, by law, cannot be refused in settlement of a debt, and have the debt remain in force."

"United States coins and currency are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts."

Reading is fundamental.

[HHODork]

and as I stated. Legal tender can be anything as long as two parties agree to them as terms as paying for the goods or services. matter of fact, the Federal government can only pay debts in gold or silver according to the Constitution. People can pay or exchange anything they want at legal tender as long as both parties agree. The US has no power to issue paper money or fake coins.

[p00lman]

And as I stated, that's not what legal tender is. I can scratch your back if you give me a piece of gum, but that is not an exchange in a legal sense (it's not illegal; I'm just saying it doesn't count for anything).

Legal tender is the only thing that can pay off debts or determine the extent of a debt. If you owe a company money, you can't pay it off in chickens.

[HHODork]

If I enter into an agreement with a business where the payment of services is chickens then sure I can. Any agreement you enter into has terms set for payment. You stated that liberty dollar was being passed off as legal tender. Barter of goods is legal tender if both parties agree to it.

[p00lman]

But that's a barter, not legal tender.

If you get taken to court over a deal, there is only one form of currency acceptable.

[HHODork]

I got news for you. Barter is a reletive term. You do barter when you exchange currency for goods or service. And again. If both parties agree that chickens are a acceptable form of payment, then yes, I will show up with chickens to court or expecting chickens in court as payment. its what the two parties agree on that is the basis of legal tender. I can enter into an agreement and state that I do not want Federal Reserve Notes (dollars) and no law man can force me to take dollars.

[p00lman]

Try it and prepare for a rude awakening.

[HHODork]

Try what? No law requires anyone to take us dollars as payment. Only the federal government has that power and only accepts FDRs as payment for debts. But in a Free Country (USA?) you can accept anything you want as payment and can post it in your store. You can say, I dont take personal checks. Even if it states that it is backed by dollars. I can say, I only want Silver or Euros and no one can take me to court over it. I might go out of business but thats a different issue.

[p00lman]

Good luck with that. Tell me how it goes.

[SaveOurSovereignty3]

Great report

[sugarpuddin88]

Take money from the competent & give to incompetent?

Daschle, Killefer, & Geithner tax-cheats!; Berney Madoff fraud; Barney Frank was arrested for running a male prostitution ring from his own house when he was supposed to have oversight of Freddie Mack; Sen Dodd for mortgage fraud; US Trade Rep Ron Kirk a tax cheat; etc

Tax-exempt foundations are used to conceal and protect wealth from taxes, and to reward corrupt politicians who "went along."

Is it now time American citizens break the law?

[tj5555555]

An eye opener for me. i thought that it was not illegal to coin money or print currency as long as if did not attempt to resemble federal money. Please someone send me a link that shows the law that may be broken. We know that a checking account issues personal paper as money, banks print cashiers checks and has no intrensic value beyond what someone is willing to give for it. Likewise could not bullets or metal washers be substituted for coins if accepted? What is the LAW being broken? tj

[sugarpuddin88]

The worlds best hope is that the USA collapses!

Longest period of time the USA has gone without bombing someone: 2 years

How many innocent millions have died due to Americas Deep Government, Economic Hit men, Jackals, armies, or economic sanctions?

How many countries have been forced to kowtow to Americas demands & extortion?

How much good business never got started because the US Gov protects the Oligarchs of Banking & Industry?

America finally dying is the best thing for this century!

[p00lman]

Don't get your hopes up, nutbag.

[sugarpuddin88]

Shouldn't everyone that tries to pass a canadian coin as a US quarter face the same charges?

[p00lman]

No, because Canadian money can be legally exchanges at US banks.