He totally demeaned the very people who had frickn voted for him on the basis of his "concern" for the working poor of Vermont(which is all of them unless they are already transplant millionaires like him).
And let me say here that normally I totally agree with all the Young Turks stuff, but on Howard Dean I have to say Y'ALL ARE WRONG.
HO HO should not ever be trusted. Take it from a native Vermonter who KNOWS.
@nilbud Sorry, but I am exactly correct about Howard Dean. He is a liar and a hypocrite. He should be kicked out of the democrat party because he is a DINO...a democrat in name only. He does not care about you or anyone who is below his socio-economic status. I can think of nothing good to say about Howard Dean. Nothing.
That next weekend, he and his so called "bad back"(that prevented him from going in the military) was out on the ski slopes at Sugarbush Ski Resort, and my family and I were there LOOKING FOR JOBS. I got in his face-I am surprised he didn't have someone drag me off, but I told him about his lying inconsiderate hypocritical "better than you cos I am a millionaire" asshole of a self. Most of the folks there had jobs, or were too old to have jobs and testifying was IMPORTANT to us.
Ho Ho wanted to drop the amount of AFDC and foodstamps, and wanted to cut medicare and medicaid to the elderly and disabled...Over 250 people of all socio economic levels went to the state house to testify to the Speaker of the Vermont house about what these cuts would do to the poor and elderly of the state. Later that night on tv he put us all down and said we all should have been at work and we wouldn't have wasted the Speaker's time all day.
Just do some research into the HO HO Choo Choo...his "commuter" train between Charlotte Vermont(one of the wealthiest communities in the country) and Burlington...COMMUTER TRAIN? Are you effing kidding me? Working people that need public transportation DO NOT live in Charlotte or indeed anywhere along the shores of Lake Champlain. The working people of Vermont who would need that train are down around Barre and Montpelier. Dont believe his lies
Howard Dean is an asshole, that's why he is despised...He is a liar and a hypocrite. I lived in Vermont during the reign of Howard Dean, and Vermont to this day is suffering because of his policies. He consistently tried to insult and degrade those of us who were the working poor. He has immense personal disdain for the poor. I know, as I worked in my local Community Action Agency as a welfare rights advocate, and he never EVER did ANYTHING to help us. Native Vermonters call him HO HO.
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Another "rah-rah" rant from the "infotainment" propaganda machine.
Cenk's bias shows like a stainky, pimpled plumber's crack as he bows in homage to the "dean" of democrat politics.
Shyeah, like HD was soley responsible for Obama's election - I would say Obama won DESPITE Dean by bringing in his own political organization.
Dean orchestrated the fiasco of dumping Sen Lieberman - going so far left with the Dems they would up with a guy the general population would not support.
Not only do I not understand why "the scream" was a big deal, I don't even understand why it was reported on at all. I can't see anything remarkable or noteworthy about it.
Dean speaks his mind he isnt 'smooth' and he isnt afraid to outright oppose wrong ideas. Therefore he rubs many of the giant egos in Washington the wrong way politicans and reporters. Frankly the RNC need a ballbreaker like Dean to get everyone on the same page.
nobody has the balls to say it he set up hillary to fail for president when he stripped the delegats that was intended to stop her momemtum from jump street that was what he did loser #1 howard dean
The reason they are marginalizing Dean is because he took on the Democratic Leadership Council and pushed progressive reform of the party. The DLC is, as Dean said, "Republican lite"--they are like the neocons of the left. Obama's administration is hiring all of Rahm's DLC picks and deliberately excluding the progressive voice in his administration--in other words, the voice of the party base, the people, in favor of the corporations, banks, and other monied interests.
if all you liberal scum assfags think Dean is so successful and wonderful then how in the world did he lose the nomination to that snoozefest John Kerry? given a choice of boring I'd rather listen to McCain than Kerry
Kerry's campaign people, including Obama's press secretary Robert Gibbs, sabotaged Dean's campaign in Iowa. Look up "A Political Mugging In America". Learn something.
do you actually expect me to believe that Kerry's campaign people successfully took down Dean but couldn't sabotage Bush's campaign after the main race was under way. Dean lost the nomination cuz he went way far left looney
like the rest of the republicans nobody cares what you think. and as for fucking up the country i think the republicans had that one covered for the past 8 years.
Comparing Howard Dean to Micheal Steele is a complete insult. Howard Dean was the first guy to realise that places that were considered Republican "strongholds" were actually 45% Democrat. Howard Dean was the first guy to say "Democrats can win anywhere so long as we put forth our core party values and combat opposing veiws with simple and clear logic." Micheal Steele is just a little Limbaugh kiss up. Steele will only lead the GOP into greater losses in 2010 and 2012.
Howard Dean NEVER prostrated himself before Olbermann--the comparison is idiotic. Dean helped orchestrate the Democratic victory. These Washington insiders need to crawl out of their offices occasionally.
the reason that the insiders hate howard dean is because he recruited blue dog dems who are conservative and liberals hate conservatives despite whatever party they are a member of.
Obama, is technically a conservative. He's a centrist on American standards, but conservative in Canada/Euro standards. Most Americans who register as liberal in the euro/canada spectrum support him because he isn't geroge w, john mccain or Sarah Palin.
I've lived in one of the most red parts of a traditionally red state almost of my life, You have no idea how ecstatic I was to see that state turn blue! Props to Dean!!! TYT on MSNBC!!
you're absolutely right Cenk, i saw chuck todd say that on morning joe and it burned me up. so much so that i sent howard dean an email thanking him for all things he did for the democrats as well as for the country. dean might be rodney dangerfield among the beltway elite, but he's earned a lot of respect from some of the "regular folk" for his forethought, vision and hard work. steele should aspire to be so effective.
Jesus H. Christ, people. Read up on the "scream". It was a media fabrication. Even Diane Sawyer revealed this and it was followed up with apologies, "mea culpas" from the MSM.
Michael Steele only wishes he could do as good a job as Howard Dean did. Just look at the stats. His( Dean's ) party controls congress, the senate and the white house . Pretty good job I'd say. Although I'd say it had as much to do with the failures of the republicans as the success of Howard Dean and the Democrats.
Why would the conservatives go toward the middle? We have not been conservative in decades. bush, clinton, bush and now obama are creating the biggest government in the history of the United states.
Your ideals of conservatism and contemporary conservitism are vastly different. Ideal conservatisim took a backseat to neo conservatism during the rise of reagan. America is tired for all the false.
Also your assement of Clinton is incorrect. Clinton downsized government balanced the budget. Put an end to welfare, His presidency had the lowest unemployement rate since the great depression. Income rose for all americans not the few at the top.
i agree with everything except the end to welfare. he put some sanctions on it & made people get jobs or training. but i suppose that's a beginning to self empowerment; not an end to welfare.
either way, trying to explain to these idiots what clinton did, when it's already well documented, is a waste of good energy. clinton wasn't perfect but he was pretty fucking good
There is a certain kind of thing that begins to happen with humans: As there personal or bushitt power increases their dependences on reality decreases. Another way to say that is that "winning" becomes more important than truth or other people's lives. It is like the King Midas story but with bullshit replacing the gold. Howard Dean seems like a strong willed guy, and very much an on side dem.
SHHHHH, Cenk! Don't tell them to go towards the middle!!!
Don't listen to Cenk, conservatives. Keep going farther and farther right. It's what Jesus would do! What? No, that's not a cliff. There are stairs on the other side. Run along now, faster.
Stock Market? Right, the Conservative Values have destroyed the stock market along with the rest of the country...It will take time to undo the damage. The American people have spoke and Conservative Values have failed...I know the truth hurts but it is what it is!
conservative values didn't force you liberal scum to spend spend spend, max out your credit cards, buy homes you can't afford or give your money to libtard thieves like Madoff. you losers voted in a guy who's gonna give you the free handout you're looking for. good job
ahaha. conservative values preached deregulation, which is why the banks gave out loans left right and centre. libtard thief madoff? hes an asshole, but i love the way you call liberal scum and libtards constantly. it doesnt give your arguments any more substance, just makes you look more foolish. Your the first person ive seen to blame liberalism for madoff, it makes no sense. BTW Obama is not giving free handouts.
OMG, he just cracked me up so hard I almost spewed my tea! Ha-Ha! We're just the loser base...we want to lose...etc.; and the look on his face was hysterical! Is he still in the running for the MSNBC slot? Scarborough Country is completely fetid and retarded and needs to be flushed immediately. This guy would be informative and hysterical!
you liberal gaytard scum are so funny. look how pissed off you get when MSNBCrap actually puts on a guest that doesn't drool over a Democrat. HAHAHA!!!!
Pulse, Cill! I can tell you have a sense of humor. There is bad and ignorance on BOTH sides of the isle. No way the conserves could have screwed this country up so bad on their own. It's gonna take time. MAYBE we will all see a better day. Take care:)
Steel would have been ok if he didn't bitch up and didn't o on stereotypes. Also I didn't agree with the man hardly on anyhting but I had respect for him until he was on his knees for Rush.
They don't care about logic or sense, they are planting seeds. When this economy continues to tank, as I believe it will, the mob of displaced middle managers will be howling for a demagogue. They will follow anyone who tells them it wasn't their fault, and all can be as it was.
there he goes again Chuchk Todd; pissing me off! If Dean doesn't have the respect of Washington insiders then it just whos how fucked up washington is
Howard Dean is considered unsuccessful because he blew a serious chance at the Presidency. As Richard II would point out, 'tis a hard thing to settle for being kingmaker when you could have been King.
this reminds me of a conservative article or memo talking about how they need their "howard dean" because of his successful strategy! the media is off in their own world as always :-p
I don't get it either, the sound effect from his victory in 2004 is something a friend of mine continues to laugh at on his cell phone ring tone. Is it funny..... nope, it's such an out of context cheer he made, if it was 20 minute long clip no one would laugh at him as much. Instead he's reduced to a laughing stock by a sound clip. It's a stupid thing to find funny, but still today it's something even guys who know jack about politics still laugh at him.
there should be no shame in juvenile jokes, but there's a difference between flash and substance especially when we are talking about men who are controlling our political parties.
Dean is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is a SUPERIOR politician than Dean could ever be. Dean is a worse chairman than Steele. Palin is MORE MAN than Dean for Dean wears the skirt in his family while his wife wears the pants. Dean will not be able to help Obambi win in 2012 because Palin is an unstoppable force and Palin will PWN him.
palin in 2012? look out, your running strait off a cliff man! you think 4 yrs is long enough for americans to forget that she's retarded? that she doesnt know who hammas is, nor does she read any newspapers? that nearly a trillion dollars got spend and she had no idea where the hell it was going to? i think i speak for every liberal in the usa when i say "PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE RUN PALIN IN 2012!"
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Palin is NOT RETARDED! She is SMARTER than ALL of DC COMBINED! When Palin runs, she will PWN the 2012 election and becomes America's GREATEST POTUS of ALL TIMES!
really? so no one in DC knew what they were spending a trillion dollars on? no one knew who hammas is or read a newspaper? because she sure as shit didnt.
Cenk, Todd was talking about Dean's first year as chairman of DNC. He wasn't liked by most Democrats on the hill during that period, but they were able to come together for the better good.
I think Todd is referring to the Washington political opinion of Dean in the past. For a while Dean was considered a joke on both sides of the isle. Then his strategy worked and it made a huge turn-around for the Dem party. Dean is respected much more in recent years than in past.
Dean will never be able to live down that yell to some. Democrats love him though and recognize that the party wouldn't be where it is now if he didn't become chairman of the DNC. Republicans and Steele could only dream of him transforming that party in the way Dean managed to transform the Democratic party.
Which Democrats don't praise him for it? I remember after Obama's elections many of the top Democrats were going on networks praising Dean for what he'd done for the party. I'm not sure why people in the media doesn't like him. I don't think it really matters though, anyone that knows what he did to the party knows how laughable the comparison between Dean and Steele is.
I never heard that. If they did, they don't doit enough. I NEVER heard Obama give Dean credit for ANYTHING, in any speech at any point in time after or before he won. He doesn't seem to want to give him a job either. Plus, you never answered why Todd would get the idea that Dems don't respect Dean. I'm not expecting you to know, but I was making a point with it. Before you said they praised him,, I never HEARD that, and then Todd says they don't respect him. If you say they did, fine. I think...
"Dean will never be able to live down that yell to some."
Yep. But why?
I've never understood what was the big deal about that yell even when it happened.
Sure it was goofy for someone finishing in third (right?) but it still was'nt anything like bush and "putting food on your family" to name just one of soooo many.
I don't know. It's an anomaly in the matrix I guess.
However, Dean is the MAIN reason President Obama is in the White House today and I think Dean should have stayed on as DNC Chairman for at least four more years.
1st, I've observed that colleagues within a network tend to color their analysis to fit the program their on. Now, not everyone does this but it's a bad habit that does occur. 2nd, so called TV commentators just regurgitate what is spewed on their blackberries and overheard at cocktail parties. The longer you stay in D.C. the more it swallows you up and fall into the trap of establishment thinking or group think regardless of the truth.
I dislike the Democratic party insiders with a passion and their the reason Democrats lost the elections of 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004. I also blame the party insiders for the 1984 Reagan landslide.
the party insiders can go fuck themselves!
JImmy4336 8 months ago
what kind of a name is chuck todd?
redryan20000 1 year ago
He totally demeaned the very people who had frickn voted for him on the basis of his "concern" for the working poor of Vermont(which is all of them unless they are already transplant millionaires like him).
And let me say here that normally I totally agree with all the Young Turks stuff, but on Howard Dean I have to say Y'ALL ARE WRONG.
HO HO should not ever be trusted. Take it from a native Vermonter who KNOWS.
patriotgyrl65 2 years ago
@patriotgyrl65 You're wrong
nilbud 1 year ago
@nilbud Sorry, but I am exactly correct about Howard Dean. He is a liar and a hypocrite. He should be kicked out of the democrat party because he is a DINO...a democrat in name only. He does not care about you or anyone who is below his socio-economic status. I can think of nothing good to say about Howard Dean. Nothing.
patriotgyrl65 1 year ago
That next weekend, he and his so called "bad back"(that prevented him from going in the military) was out on the ski slopes at Sugarbush Ski Resort, and my family and I were there LOOKING FOR JOBS. I got in his face-I am surprised he didn't have someone drag me off, but I told him about his lying inconsiderate hypocritical "better than you cos I am a millionaire" asshole of a self. Most of the folks there had jobs, or were too old to have jobs and testifying was IMPORTANT to us.
patriotgyrl65 2 years ago
Ho Ho wanted to drop the amount of AFDC and foodstamps, and wanted to cut medicare and medicaid to the elderly and disabled...Over 250 people of all socio economic levels went to the state house to testify to the Speaker of the Vermont house about what these cuts would do to the poor and elderly of the state. Later that night on tv he put us all down and said we all should have been at work and we wouldn't have wasted the Speaker's time all day.
patriotgyrl65 2 years ago
We call him HO HO cos he is such an effing joke.
Just do some research into the HO HO Choo Choo...his "commuter" train between Charlotte Vermont(one of the wealthiest communities in the country) and Burlington...COMMUTER TRAIN? Are you effing kidding me? Working people that need public transportation DO NOT live in Charlotte or indeed anywhere along the shores of Lake Champlain. The working people of Vermont who would need that train are down around Barre and Montpelier. Dont believe his lies
patriotgyrl65 2 years ago
Howard Dean is an asshole, that's why he is despised...He is a liar and a hypocrite. I lived in Vermont during the reign of Howard Dean, and Vermont to this day is suffering because of his policies. He consistently tried to insult and degrade those of us who were the working poor. He has immense personal disdain for the poor. I know, as I worked in my local Community Action Agency as a welfare rights advocate, and he never EVER did ANYTHING to help us. Native Vermonters call him HO HO.
patriotgyrl65 2 years ago
SCenk, suck a dick.
Stickmodee 2 years ago
@Stickmodee That was clever.... fucking idiot.
metalrox555 1 year ago
@metalrox555 Thak you............douchebag.
Stickmodee 1 year ago
How is Howard Dean Like Michael Steele? Easy
Howard Dean said "byah"
Dave Chappelle parodied him
Dave Chappelle is black
Michael Steele is black
Therefore, Howard Dean is like Michael Steele. (Didn't even have to look at the video)
Snowgoon901 2 years ago 7
Haha, the best reply this video will ever get!
kefkahkefkah 2 years ago
I have to think that he meant somebody besides Howard Dean. There is no way Chuck Dodd can reasonably compare the two.
biozepp 2 years ago
Dean got the job done,
Steele is a whore job
MrRightAllTime 2 years ago 3
LOL, it's funny
petkol 2 years ago
That's right! Howard Dean is the reason Obama won North Carolina, Indiana, Virginia, Colorado and Nevada!
theovidofbucktown 2 years ago 10
It would be nice if Dean stayed as DNC Chairman for another 6 years. Dean is a genius.
Worrier316 2 years ago 3
Cenk, you take the words right out of my mouth. Way to go!
halette20001 2 years ago 11
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Another "rah-rah" rant from the "infotainment" propaganda machine.
Cenk's bias shows like a stainky, pimpled plumber's crack as he bows in homage to the "dean" of democrat politics.
Shyeah, like HD was soley responsible for Obama's election - I would say Obama won DESPITE Dean by bringing in his own political organization.
Dean orchestrated the fiasco of dumping Sen Lieberman - going so far left with the Dems they would up with a guy the general population would not support.
Swift.
Manelvagorio 2 years ago
Howard Dean? Chuck Todd must be drunk.
myha16 2 years ago 4
I like Howard Dean. So what if he screamed. WHat the hell is the big deal?
badmuffy 2 years ago 7
why can't i reach these keeeeds
seestickglue232 2 years ago 3
Not only do I not understand why "the scream" was a big deal, I don't even understand why it was reported on at all. I can't see anything remarkable or noteworthy about it.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago
Comparing Howard Dean to his "I have a Scream" speech 5 YEARS AGO was obsolete than as much as it is now.....
Michael Steele is Black.....wow....that shit just blows my mind.....
ExplosiveMuddButt 2 years ago 5
HOWARD DEAN FTW!!!
ThrashBeast 2 years ago 4
Dean speaks his mind he isnt 'smooth' and he isnt afraid to outright oppose wrong ideas. Therefore he rubs many of the giant egos in Washington the wrong way politicans and reporters. Frankly the RNC need a ballbreaker like Dean to get everyone on the same page.
duncan36 2 years ago 2
Chuck Todd is a Republican...nuff said
negrowithabrain 2 years ago 3
nobody has the balls to say it he set up hillary to fail for president when he stripped the delegats that was intended to stop her momemtum from jump street that was what he did loser #1 howard dean
gtfoimmed 2 years ago
Dean is the man. One day he'll get the respect he deserves.
knixphan 2 years ago 6
He ran into huge trouble when he stated that then USA should take a fair and balanced approach in the Middle east.
He was branded an anti-semite and actually had to apologize. And shortly thereafter had his Scream Moment
oldjoe5 2 years ago
BINGO. That's when the shit started.
Carolab 2 years ago
lmao the crazy voice is amazing
Kward107 2 years ago
Howard Dean owns fuck the DLC.
Joe402 2 years ago
The reason they are marginalizing Dean is because he took on the Democratic Leadership Council and pushed progressive reform of the party. The DLC is, as Dean said, "Republican lite"--they are like the neocons of the left. Obama's administration is hiring all of Rahm's DLC picks and deliberately excluding the progressive voice in his administration--in other words, the voice of the party base, the people, in favor of the corporations, banks, and other monied interests.
Carolab 2 years ago 2
I also fail to understand why Howard Dean is so marginalized.
ThousandSunAnger 2 years ago
i was at a party and he showed up. hes a really cool guy
will0ughby 2 years ago
if all you liberal scum assfags think Dean is so successful and wonderful then how in the world did he lose the nomination to that snoozefest John Kerry? given a choice of boring I'd rather listen to McCain than Kerry
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Kerry's campaign people, including Obama's press secretary Robert Gibbs, sabotaged Dean's campaign in Iowa. Look up "A Political Mugging In America". Learn something.
Carolab 2 years ago
do you actually expect me to believe that Kerry's campaign people successfully took down Dean but couldn't sabotage Bush's campaign after the main race was under way. Dean lost the nomination cuz he went way far left looney
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Didn't Google the article I told you to, did you?
Well, fine, stay stupid.
Carolab 2 years ago
ok ok I'll go to the google and get back to you
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Dean is a fucking moron.
donottake 2 years ago
we was smart enough to lead the way to making the republicans irrelevant
popasmurf78 2 years ago
So Dean is responsible for fucking up this country.
donottake 2 years ago
like the rest of the republicans nobody cares what you think. and as for fucking up the country i think the republicans had that one covered for the past 8 years.
popasmurf78 2 years ago
You like trading a DOW of 14,000 for one at 6,000. You are truly a dumbfuck.
donottake 2 years ago
But he screamed funny. So obviously he can't be successful.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
They can't acknowledge Dean's success because they want to believe that THEY lost these elections rather the Democrats winning the elections.
NSU224 2 years ago 3
m s is a house nigga
sullivansean 2 years ago
Howard Dean is one of the unsung Political Geniuses of our time....bottom line.
SunRunnerNY 2 years ago 8
Comparing Howard Dean to Micheal Steele is a complete insult. Howard Dean was the first guy to realise that places that were considered Republican "strongholds" were actually 45% Democrat. Howard Dean was the first guy to say "Democrats can win anywhere so long as we put forth our core party values and combat opposing veiws with simple and clear logic." Micheal Steele is just a little Limbaugh kiss up. Steele will only lead the GOP into greater losses in 2010 and 2012.
GeeYouAreYou0001 2 years ago 9
Howard Dean was successful! You're right Cenk, the guys in Washington are clueless, including Chuck T. apparently!!!!
Michael Steele IS a laughing stock!
ver506 2 years ago 2
Howard Dean still has his testicles intact.
Ed76638 2 years ago 6
Exactly, Dean never pulled a bitch move like Steele.
game3525 2 years ago 4
I do not remember Dean Apologizing in the first month of his tenure, or ever.
and we have majority in both houses.
JerezJulio 2 years ago 4
Are they saying that he's crazy because of that scream he did when he ran for President?
Because if that's true, that's a stupid reason to think he's crazy...
MoPapparani 2 years ago 3
Howard Dean NEVER prostrated himself before Olbermann--the comparison is idiotic. Dean helped orchestrate the Democratic victory. These Washington insiders need to crawl out of their offices occasionally.
Frackin64 2 years ago 3
this dude knows he's lying. like many non-dumb people on the right
cherrydog9 2 years ago
Cenk is not on the right.
Carolab 2 years ago
clearly. I'm talking about Chuck Todd
cherrydog9 2 years ago
Oh.
Carolab 2 years ago
the reason that the insiders hate howard dean is because he recruited blue dog dems who are conservative and liberals hate conservatives despite whatever party they are a member of.
bonanzausa 2 years ago
Obama, is technically a conservative. He's a centrist on American standards, but conservative in Canada/Euro standards. Most Americans who register as liberal in the euro/canada spectrum support him because he isn't geroge w, john mccain or Sarah Palin.
Propagandhi900 2 years ago
Thats not it at all. Howard Dean only set up shop in all 50 states. It was Rham Emanuel who recruited those blue dog Democrats.
Ed76638 2 years ago
I've lived in one of the most red parts of a traditionally red state almost of my life, You have no idea how ecstatic I was to see that state turn blue! Props to Dean!!! TYT on MSNBC!!
WARDOG1138 2 years ago
you're absolutely right Cenk, i saw chuck todd say that on morning joe and it burned me up. so much so that i sent howard dean an email thanking him for all things he did for the democrats as well as for the country. dean might be rodney dangerfield among the beltway elite, but he's earned a lot of respect from some of the "regular folk" for his forethought, vision and hard work. steele should aspire to be so effective.
ScoundrelLB 2 years ago 2
chuck todd needs to stick to talking about polls
WarDukeBoye 2 years ago
Got that right.
pookiewood 2 years ago
they dodn't like Howard Dean because he screamed, "YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH!" Sad.
pookiewood 2 years ago 2
Which was extremely stupid. He would have been a great president. Instead, we got Bush.
KiwiTwist03 2 years ago 3
No doubt. I was excited for Howard Dean and it was going to be the first time I would've voted.
pookiewood 2 years ago
Jesus H. Christ, people. Read up on the "scream". It was a media fabrication. Even Diane Sawyer revealed this and it was followed up with apologies, "mea culpas" from the MSM.
Just GOOGLE it.
Carolab 2 years ago
You nailed it Cenk!
Encyclopeteia 2 years ago
Michael Steele only wishes he could do as good a job as Howard Dean did. Just look at the stats. His( Dean's ) party controls congress, the senate and the white house . Pretty good job I'd say. Although I'd say it had as much to do with the failures of the republicans as the success of Howard Dean and the Democrats.
plumbweis 2 years ago 3
Howard Dean, a very good stragetist and responsible for a large part of the democrats succes.
Michael Steele, a very weak man who so far have achieved nothing but hurting his party.
They are quite different.
qanazir 2 years ago 3
Chuck Todd is a dunce. He can never speak for two minutes without saying something stupid.
VanadiusRex 2 years ago 2
Kinda like Limbaugh the Hutt or O'Retard lol
PTKilowatt 2 years ago
Why would the conservatives go toward the middle? We have not been conservative in decades. bush, clinton, bush and now obama are creating the biggest government in the history of the United states.
iwillspyonyou 2 years ago
Your ideals of conservatism and contemporary conservitism are vastly different. Ideal conservatisim took a backseat to neo conservatism during the rise of reagan. America is tired for all the false.
Also your assement of Clinton is incorrect. Clinton downsized government balanced the budget. Put an end to welfare, His presidency had the lowest unemployement rate since the great depression. Income rose for all americans not the few at the top.
Frets200 2 years ago
i agree with everything except the end to welfare. he put some sanctions on it & made people get jobs or training. but i suppose that's a beginning to self empowerment; not an end to welfare.
either way, trying to explain to these idiots what clinton did, when it's already well documented, is a waste of good energy. clinton wasn't perfect but he was pretty fucking good
upabittoolate 2 years ago
Conservatism has nothing to do with the size of a government.
I think you are confusing it with libertarianism and/or anarchism.
qanazir 2 years ago
There is a certain kind of thing that begins to happen with humans: As there personal or bushitt power increases their dependences on reality decreases. Another way to say that is that "winning" becomes more important than truth or other people's lives. It is like the King Midas story but with bullshit replacing the gold. Howard Dean seems like a strong willed guy, and very much an on side dem.
hypnofan35 2 years ago
SHHHHH, Cenk! Don't tell them to go towards the middle!!!
Don't listen to Cenk, conservatives. Keep going farther and farther right. It's what Jesus would do! What? No, that's not a cliff. There are stairs on the other side. Run along now, faster.
Bobbiethejean 2 years ago 4
Howard Dean did nothing to make himself look like a pussy, and there's the difference between Dean and Michael Steele.
takomaguy 2 years ago
takomaguy,
Thank you my thoughts exactly. :)
yuukisama2001 2 years ago
BYAAAAAAA!!!
highwind8124 2 years ago
the TYT threads are no different than MSNBCrap. only braindead zombie liberal scum allowed in. HAHAHA!!!!
pulsar00815 2 years ago
I believe you guys are the ones who worship a Zombie, right? So, go wait on the Zombie Son to return and save your sorry sinful self.
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
is Keith Olberdouche the zombie you're referring to? sorry, no it's not him
pulsar00815 2 years ago
LOL! Go wait on your Zombie Son and let us liberals fix the damage done by 8-12 yrs of "Conservative Values"
Scurry on! Your maker is coming!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
LOL! yeah man, great job so far with that stock market thing. HAHAHA!!!!
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Stock Market? Right, the Conservative Values have destroyed the stock market along with the rest of the country...It will take time to undo the damage. The American people have spoke and Conservative Values have failed...I know the truth hurts but it is what it is!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago 2
conservative values didn't force you liberal scum to spend spend spend, max out your credit cards, buy homes you can't afford or give your money to libtard thieves like Madoff. you losers voted in a guy who's gonna give you the free handout you're looking for. good job
pulsar00815 2 years ago
ahaha. conservative values preached deregulation, which is why the banks gave out loans left right and centre. libtard thief madoff? hes an asshole, but i love the way you call liberal scum and libtards constantly. it doesnt give your arguments any more substance, just makes you look more foolish. Your the first person ive seen to blame liberalism for madoff, it makes no sense. BTW Obama is not giving free handouts.
Xiller8 2 years ago
Chuck Todd talks a lot of BS
synonys 2 years ago
OMG, he just cracked me up so hard I almost spewed my tea! Ha-Ha! We're just the loser base...we want to lose...etc.; and the look on his face was hysterical! Is he still in the running for the MSNBC slot? Scarborough Country is completely fetid and retarded and needs to be flushed immediately. This guy would be informative and hysterical!
bettablue1 2 years ago
Chuck Todd is a first rate idiot!
myha16 2 years ago
I just laughed out loud in a coffee shop to the "because he's a loser and a failure" quip.
uoftron 2 years ago
you liberal gaytard scum are so funny. look how pissed off you get when MSNBCrap actually puts on a guest that doesn't drool over a Democrat. HAHAHA!!!!
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Hey Pulsar, why don't you do planet earth a favor and go super nova! (Get it!)
tomhansonnh 2 years ago
I'm gonna take a wild guess here ok tom. you're a liberal fucktard..yes?
pulsar00815 2 years ago
Pulse, Cill! I can tell you have a sense of humor. There is bad and ignorance on BOTH sides of the isle. No way the conserves could have screwed this country up so bad on their own. It's gonna take time. MAYBE we will all see a better day. Take care:)
tomhansonnh 2 years ago
chuck todd is a garbage fucktard hack. wtf is nbc thinking putting this fuckface on tv. he's got no personality what soever and is a droll.
tom22p 2 years ago
Steel would have been ok if he didn't bitch up and didn't o on stereotypes. Also I didn't agree with the man hardly on anyhting but I had respect for him until he was on his knees for Rush.
rell127 2 years ago
I guess we just found out if TYT will be on MSNBC.
ElectricPineapple79 2 years ago
They don't care about logic or sense, they are planting seeds. When this economy continues to tank, as I believe it will, the mob of displaced middle managers will be howling for a demagogue. They will follow anyone who tells them it wasn't their fault, and all can be as it was.
Republican, enter stage right.
facelesshorseman 2 years ago
there he goes again Chuchk Todd; pissing me off! If Dean doesn't have the respect of Washington insiders then it just whos how fucked up washington is
bodah44 2 years ago 2
Howard Dean actually has a set of balls unlike Steele.
PVTSolis 2 years ago 7
Howard Dean IS THE MAN!
punto puto.
daderone 2 years ago 6
Chuck Todd SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!
777CARL777 2 years ago 4
I agree with everyone all the time about anything.
p12psicop 2 years ago
Howard Dean is considered unsuccessful because he blew a serious chance at the Presidency. As Richard II would point out, 'tis a hard thing to settle for being kingmaker when you could have been King.
franksnow79 2 years ago
this reminds me of a conservative article or memo talking about how they need their "howard dean" because of his successful strategy! the media is off in their own world as always :-p
sisforshayla 2 years ago 2
I don't get it either, the sound effect from his victory in 2004 is something a friend of mine continues to laugh at on his cell phone ring tone. Is it funny..... nope, it's such an out of context cheer he made, if it was 20 minute long clip no one would laugh at him as much. Instead he's reduced to a laughing stock by a sound clip. It's a stupid thing to find funny, but still today it's something even guys who know jack about politics still laugh at him.
crithon 2 years ago 2
yea just take one little incident and hes "crazy"
Such crap
micahgee 2 years ago 4
there should be no shame in juvenile jokes, but there's a difference between flash and substance especially when we are talking about men who are controlling our political parties.
crithon 2 years ago
Chuck Todd has been annoying for a while now. After the primaries you didn't know what was going to come out of his mouth.
canycme 2 years ago
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Dean is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is a SUPERIOR politician than Dean could ever be. Dean is a worse chairman than Steele. Palin is MORE MAN than Dean for Dean wears the skirt in his family while his wife wears the pants. Dean will not be able to help Obambi win in 2012 because Palin is an unstoppable force and Palin will PWN him.
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
ummmmmmmmmmmm You should seek some professional help now.
kitteneater123456 2 years ago
hahahahahaha your funny man
solid220 2 years ago
palin in 2012? look out, your running strait off a cliff man! you think 4 yrs is long enough for americans to forget that she's retarded? that she doesnt know who hammas is, nor does she read any newspapers? that nearly a trillion dollars got spend and she had no idea where the hell it was going to? i think i speak for every liberal in the usa when i say "PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE RUN PALIN IN 2012!"
largegrainsofsalt 2 years ago 4
Not really youtube is here and alot of people will remember.
rell127 2 years ago
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Palin is NOT RETARDED! She is SMARTER than ALL of DC COMBINED! When Palin runs, she will PWN the 2012 election and becomes America's GREATEST POTUS of ALL TIMES!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
really? so no one in DC knew what they were spending a trillion dollars on? no one knew who hammas is or read a newspaper? because she sure as shit didnt.
largegrainsofsalt 2 years ago
lol good one :P
InCupsOfCoffee821 2 years ago 2
Cenk, Todd was talking about Dean's first year as chairman of DNC. He wasn't liked by most Democrats on the hill during that period, but they were able to come together for the better good.
BrightWave 2 years ago
BYIAAH!
WKaliber1 2 years ago
I think Todd is referring to the Washington political opinion of Dean in the past. For a while Dean was considered a joke on both sides of the isle. Then his strategy worked and it made a huge turn-around for the Dem party. Dean is respected much more in recent years than in past.
ekbrogan 2 years ago
I'm with you Cenk. That was a jaw droppingly incomprehensible statement by Chuck. I have no idea where he's coming from with that.
GrownupPhan 2 years ago
Steele lost a competive US Senate Race in MD in 2006.
nkpolitics0845 2 years ago
Ack! Cenk, don't call people losers, you'll sound like that Santelli guy!
Lavalampoflava 2 years ago
Dean will never be able to live down that yell to some. Democrats love him though and recognize that the party wouldn't be where it is now if he didn't become chairman of the DNC. Republicans and Steele could only dream of him transforming that party in the way Dean managed to transform the Democratic party.
TokyoNiGHTS1 2 years ago
then why don't they give him credit for anything? And where did that bozo Todd get the idea that he's lost their respect?
Rosannasfriend 2 years ago 5
Which Democrats don't praise him for it? I remember after Obama's elections many of the top Democrats were going on networks praising Dean for what he'd done for the party. I'm not sure why people in the media doesn't like him. I don't think it really matters though, anyone that knows what he did to the party knows how laughable the comparison between Dean and Steele is.
TokyoNiGHTS1 2 years ago 2
I never heard that. If they did, they don't doit enough. I NEVER heard Obama give Dean credit for ANYTHING, in any speech at any point in time after or before he won. He doesn't seem to want to give him a job either. Plus, you never answered why Todd would get the idea that Dems don't respect Dean. I'm not expecting you to know, but I was making a point with it. Before you said they praised him,, I never HEARD that, and then Todd says they don't respect him. If you say they did, fine. I think...
Rosannasfriend 2 years ago
TokyNight, I didn't read the last few lines of your post. You did address my Chuck Todd point. Sorry.
Rosannasfriend 2 years ago
think he still deserves more than they 've given him.
Rosannasfriend 2 years ago
"Dean will never be able to live down that yell to some."
Yep. But why?
I've never understood what was the big deal about that yell even when it happened.
Sure it was goofy for someone finishing in third (right?) but it still was'nt anything like bush and "putting food on your family" to name just one of soooo many.
I don't know. It's an anomaly in the matrix I guess.
HulkSmashPunyHumans 2 years ago 6
The yell was unpresidential that's why.
Worrier316 2 years ago
However, Dean is the MAIN reason President Obama is in the White House today and I think Dean should have stayed on as DNC Chairman for at least four more years.
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Worrier316 2 years ago
In reality, most people in the real world just don't care about the yell.
Frackin64 2 years ago 4
LOL. Steele is pissing off his party insiders,, just by ACCIDENT. LOL. He's got no guts or imagination, like Dean does.
Rosannasfriend 2 years ago 7
1st, I've observed that colleagues within a network tend to color their analysis to fit the program their on. Now, not everyone does this but it's a bad habit that does occur. 2nd, so called TV commentators just regurgitate what is spewed on their blackberries and overheard at cocktail parties. The longer you stay in D.C. the more it swallows you up and fall into the trap of establishment thinking or group think regardless of the truth.
mysteryegg 2 years ago 4
I feel bad for Dean...
I have never seen someone so right ...
get treated so wrong...
Unekwu89 2 years ago 9
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I dislike the Democratic party insiders with a passion and their the reason Democrats lost the elections of 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004. I also blame the party insiders for the 1984 Reagan landslide.
Worrier316 2 years ago
Without Dean, Obama would have NEVER became President.
skynet329 2 years ago 9
Howard Dean should leave that ridiculous party that is the Democratic Party and should form a new party.
sonyavsystem 2 years ago
I agree. What a lack of appreciation.
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cartrifride 2 years ago