@HistoryHmoobGuy As only an ignorant racist could I suppose... perhaps it is not you who is at fault for you way of thinking... but your upbringing. How sad that people with such a limited view point are sill permited to have access to a public forum such as this.
Your a shill. I have a few hydrogen cells and each one of them work. It is really obvious by what videos you upload and your user name that your really mad about the entire HHO concept. I bet you work for an oil company. Maybe even the public affairs. You are dis info and I love people like you,because its so funny to see the "big guy" weak and scared. Thank you!!
BULL SHIT!!!! I have a little cell in my car. I got 35 more miles per gallon and I made it for my self. This is about the weakest bull shit I have ever seen. Can you say the Media was bought out by the petro company to discredit hydrogen generators?
0:37 - No, they're not looking for alternative fuels to lower dependence... they're looking for a way to continue a convenient lifestyle without having to pay for it.
...there is an evil axis in the U.S. and its 1>The Oil Companies, 2>The Pharmacudical Companies 3>The Insurance Companies. By destroying oil and insurance companies and regulating the Pharmacudical companies we will wipe out over 98% of the corruption in the U.S. Govt. The nastiest of the axis is big oil so we are going after them first which is why I dedicate my research to the mass distribution of my 100% HHO fuel for cars units and brag about how they cant stop me, we all have guns....
The media coverage of the Hydrogen installer is trying very hard to discredit this installer, trying to make him look like a scam but he's not a scam. I build HHO units that run ANY vehicle on PURE water with no gas. I'm not afraid of the big oil companies, instead I know for a fact the oil companies are afraid of us, all of us and this false media coverage proves that. Oh how the tables have turned on big oil. We now have them in the defensive position and we plan to put them out of business!!!
@VonBraun87545 It takes more energy to create the hydrogen than can be recovered by using that hydrogen. In addition, an internal combustion engine only converts a third of the supplied energy in the fuel into mechanical energy. Any HHO device would have to be at least 350% efficient in order to overcome system losses. That is impossible.
I saw a form of the question "why wouldn't car manufacturers use it then?" GM is owned by chase manhattan corps which also controls the big five oil companies, it wouldn't make sense for them to use it. Orgler invented a car that got 200 mpg using a "vapor-only" system. It was s huge deal and got a lot of media coverage until he just up and disappeared after being offered millions for the patent. How far would you go to protect a trillion dollar investment? Big oil is doing just that.
The American system of government would be the best in the world if the interests of big business were weighted properly in the system. Communication between congress and big business is important, but America was founded on freedom of thought, speech, press, and religion. They ought to add an amendment that disallows big business from prohibiting advancement of technology for monetary reasons. Let the antiquated companies die so the new ones can bring us out of recession. It is nature's way.
I have seen a car with my own two eyes that runs on pure vegetable oil. I have seen a car with my own two eyes that has run on nothing but electricity and water. If we can make a combustion engine that runs on electricity then we'll have the power to stop polluting whats left of our beautiful ecosystems by using full scale alternatives. No dependence on foreign oil or any oil at all. The problem is that you have presidents who own oil companies and former CEOs of big energy corps in congress
This is absolutely ridiculous. The Rockefellers own the parent company of NBC and are doing exactly what they did with the Diesel engine. Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil and when his patent was bought out by Standard Oil, they put out propaganda through newspapers and other outlets that using peanut oil didn't work in a Diesel engine and that Diesel was lying. NBC says keep buying gas because their boss said so. Big oil is scared by this tech, and they can't suppress it.
I guess we'll just have to wait a little longer. But not impossible. Go back 100 years and try to tell someone about a computer+monitor. Just because we don't understand something now doesn't mean we won't soon.
If I could afford $2,000 for a unit. then I can afford gas. No doubt there are people who want to scam anything & everything and ruin things for everybody else. However, I've built 3 different units of my own design. The most money spent on one was $30. I put them my cars. The MPG increase was not 50% but it was enough for me to keep using them. My motorcycle would go 60 miles on a 2 gal tank. now it goes 80 miles on the same tank. Don't let people tell what works or not . Do things for yourself
Chris Hanson needs to be beat with a tire iron, he sticks his nose into everything. I do not care if he is an investigative journalist the guy is annoying, and arrogant. His egotistical ass needs roasting.
It amuses me how much money was spent on ridiculing this guy,( I think his figures are very exaggerated). As far as I am concerned the basic hho gen that I made for my car increased mileage by an average of 30%.
I don't care if no one believes me, It's saving me money .
"So we hired a government approved company" - pretty much sums it all up. The oil cartels OWN all the governments. What do you think they will really find? Of course they don't want alternative energies on the market. The government can't control that.
This documentary is half truth / half lie to discredit the alternative technology that really exists. The video has been done by professionals to make alternative energy appear "silly" and not worth investigating further. Oil / gas is obsolete.
Remember guys, gas companies will pay anyone including news corporations to silence or destroy a person or device from selling because gas/oil companies will lose a lot of money so what IF this works and that the news station were paid to make it seem that it doesn't work :P
Even I could work this out when I was in primary school, it's simple logic. The gas companies and governments making money from them didn't want people to know about these simple solutions. However now that the oil is running out they don't seem to mind as much........
Hydrogen cannot not have two bonds, If you passed high school chemistry, you learned this FACT. doesnt it kind of blow your mind that some guy from nowhere "discovered" this technology? When Large corporations such as Gas Companies, and Automakers are putting billions of research into alternative fuels?
@j23araluce apparently i misunderstood this concept, but no it is impossible for hydrogen to have two bonds, but oxygen can, so yes oxygen can hold the two bonds... and hydrogen does come from water... but in the end im not quite sure what kind of wack job explanation is given for HHO. The people who believe in this type of thing (HHO) are not stupid, just misinformed.
You idiots, I'm a Marine, and they are making a really good HHO system to Hybrid up the Humm V's. If it's so fake then why is the poorest branch of the Military making good use of it. NBC and all of these ACTORS, are fake as hell. Even the guys on this video that say that they "have sold and worked on many vehicles" and showed a whiteboard of mileage gains are in on this propaganda to try and lie to the people AMERICA, come on, I mean Come On, you really gonna believe this BULLSHIT VIDEO.
@agenthelios1 Boo, freakin' HOO. You are a BIG man talking like this behind a keyboard aren't you. You are such an ignorant prick. Plus you say I'm fake, and then you say what some Marines have done, and you say that I have done those things, so that means you are calling me a Marine, right after you said I wasn't one. Once again IGnorant prick. And yes, I don't really like Motarded (motivated retard) Marines either. Most of them are a bunch of loud obnocious drunks, and yes..
@agenthelios1 .....some of them do go crazy and rape people, just recently (A year or so ago) there was a unit called 3/1, or maybe it was some other unit, were their single Marines weren't allowed to leave base, because this squad (group of 13 Marines and 1 NAVY Doc) raped some civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan (Can't remember which of those 2 countries), they all got demoted to Private and sent to the Brig (NAVY Jail), for some years, and ruined it for the rest of their unit (Like 1,500 others)
@agenthelios1 Yeah your right, some did kill babies and others. So did the ARMY too. EVERY COUNTRY IN HISTORY that has invaded another country (or that is at war with another country) has done this. So before you start singling out MARINES, and blaming ONLY MARINES for these disgusting deeds, when in reality you should be blaming your own species for this, because it is always someone who is a Human Man, and that has a penis, so basically that doesn't just narrow it down.....
@agenthelios1 ...to us Marines, it narrows it down to every race of every country of every person that is a man and that has no morals and no heart and no control and no discipline, well just the ones that are like that, and they are all over, it's not every one of every branch. You IGNORANT PRICK. You need to study some History or something, or ask someone who knows their History, and that's not a GENIUS like yourself. Cuntbag.
I can't believe so many people fall for this HHO shit. This guy has been arrested for fraud before. Don't people realize that if HHO worked, every carmaker in the world would put them in every vehicle they sold and double their profits? Fucking idiots!
@SakoTGrimes The thing is, as a stipulation of Opec, alternative energy research is prohibited. HHO can work, it is just a matter of figuring out how. When it does actually work it will be all over youtube because there are several DIYers working at it.
he probaly is a scammer but " you tube" stan meyers, then john cristie there are a lot smarter people than you dumb arses that think the earth is flat and thats that. and guess what their aussies too"dumb arse yanks"
So the supposed new fuel mileage figure which Sam Burlem quoted was 96mpg fron the original manufacturers 34 mpg (and after getting caught in a bit of traffic) and then the new 'revised fuel mileage figure' he quotes is 57.77mpg supposedly due to having extra weight and 4 people in the car. So if each extra person excluding driver weighed 90kg that's 270Kg and that is supposed to somehow reduce the fuel economy by a whopping 38.23mpg..that's laughable...
The losses in an on board on demand HHO generator system are in fact far worse than most realize!
We all know that the internal combustion process to convert energy to kinetic motion is fundamentally inefficient, because the increased pressure from an explosion is supposed to move a piston down because the outside atmospheric pressure is lower.
So, you end up doing this TWICE ! Once to tap energy to generate HHO gas, and then the burning of that HHO. That's doubling up the process.
I built my own hho system for far less than this bloodsucker. I was getting 14mph on my 91 F150. With the hho i got it to 27mph for about a week, then the computer corrected back to the 14mph. Gave up on the idea for awhile. But I'm not done, I'll fix the problem. If you build your own following youtube and google the answers you won't fail. Trial and error! Don't give up.
@a1mint I'm sorry I didn't see you in my truck with me when I refilled my gas tank and did the math with a calculator. You must of put gas in my tank to make me think I got 27 mph.
@a1mint you can't say something doesn't work till you tried it. If you have tried it and it did not work for you than you did something wrong. There are so many videos here on youtube that show that it does work. If you still don't believe that it works fine that does not mean the rest of us have to believe what you say.
@wantblackwolf You did not get 27 mpg on your F150, period.
All credible evidence shows that mpg only goes down. And that makes sense, because the extra load the alternator puts on the engine does not come for free. Expensive gas explosion energy is used to generate electricity which is used to split water, and then that puny amount of energy is then exploded a second time.
Double up inefficient. Plus all the heat losses all over the place.
Dateline admits the reason this particular installation is ineffective is because the apparatus installed does not produce sufficient quantities of hydrogen. That doesn't mean that the entire process is a fraud.
Dateline is not interested in the science; they are only interested in exposing this particular scam artist.
I would like to see them expose the real criminals and scam artists who've been repressing technology for decades in order to keep us chained to the gas pump.
It is not science. Watch all my videos about HHO and you will understand that it is technically impossible for HHO to increase miles per gallon. All the numbers needed are in the videos.
Water and hydrogen injection can help to increase the efficiency of internal combustion engines by up to 10% by lowering engine temp costs. Beyond that it will not help. You can get the same benefits by getting your cars CPU remapped.
If it increases efficiency and power you will find a tuner doing it. They know all of the ways to squeeze more out of an ICE.
@a1mint The water vapor injection (not necessarily HHO) can aid some poorly functioning industrial IC engines to burn more cleanly and efficiently. However their are cheaper and more efficient ways to solve the issue.
@a1mint Gasoline IC engines burn less than 70% of available fuel. The rest is burnt off in the catalytic converter. Current fuel saving technologies are often focused on increasing that range.
You should do some more in depth research into current fuel saving technologies used by the major manufactures.
@a1mint I am sorry, but I am not going to teach you a free course in IC engine theory. Fuel not burning or burning at the wrong time is a major cause of IC engine inefficiency. For that reason the high compression injection system was developed to prevent early burn of fuel. Late burn of fuel still has not been successfully tackled.
I don't mean to offend but you are too ignorant of IC engines to school you on YouTube. You need a basic background to understand the explanation.
@XCritonX Suggesting that 30% of fuel is unburned, followed up by a lecture how supposedly you are far more knowledgeable about engines, just makes you look incredibly arrogant and stupid, just like the rest of the HHO quacks out there.
John Heywood, the most recognized expert on the IC engine, states that at least 98 percent of the gasoline is burned. He is the head Professor at the prestigious MIT. 36 percent of the heat goes out the exhaust, 34 percent to the cooling system and 6 percent to the surrounding air. If 30 percent was burned in the cal it would destroy the cat as temperatures would go above the max of 1250 F. Study and learn. HHO is a total scam.
That's funny, he says his devices don't always work..well he must be able to tell the buyer in what cases it will and will not work if it's been tested properly. I would think if a device like this was fitted to a Toyota for example and it worked it wouldn't matter what make of car it was fitted GM, Ford, it should still work as the basic principle of engine operation between manufacturers is the same.. It seems like the device doesn't work at all to save fuel or emissions.
Yea cars all have high-technology fuel injection and not neccesarily at all are they set up the same, but cars have to abide by all the same rules, blah blah. But if hes talking about newer cars and hes talking about upwards of 100% increases then why wouldnt any newer car see at least a dramatic increase. Plus of course his claim to test so many cars and all have dramatic improvements. Hes focusing on profit and positive attention torwards the product at his speech not on specifics.
@94EglVisionTSI Yeah any newer car should theoretically see a dramatic increase as they all operate under the same rules but trouble is the product is a scam. He cannnot focus on specifics in his speech because he has none as the device doesn't work..you can only get specifics if something actually works and you have real results. You are correct that he is focusing on profit and positive attention to the product because that is what con artists do best.. they dupe people who do not understand.
"Reset your computer" What a load of BS! I've heard of remapping the ecu (basically changing the configuration so the engine burns leaner, more HP at the cost of fuel economy), but that resetting line was a crock.
How many people have reported fuel mileage increases that you have blatantly ignored. you would have swore up and down heaver that air flight was imposable as the wright brothers where flying there plains until they flew over your head. Stop treating science like a religion dude.
A few. I usually take the time to determine whether they've done something even approaching a proper test
Science never said powered flight was impossible. The naysayers in the Wright Bros.' time just thought that the engineering and materials of the era weren't good enough yet.
And again, I'm not treating science like a religion. The problem is you seem to think it works like town hall democracy. No matter how much you want something to work your way, it won't magically make it so.
A fOOL and HIS money are soon parted. There ios a special place in hell for these snake oil salesmen. They are the worst type of thief. they pray on desperate people. They are bottom feeders. I would shed no tears if they all got murdered. FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
Excess energy has now been PROVEN coming from water fuel cells, google department of defence cold fusion, or google Dr. Mossier-Boss of the US NAVY cold fusion. It's even in wki now and encyclopedia britannica known as muon catalyse fusion.
Sure I'm going to trust some fuck bag scam artist who thinks he can beat the basic pronciples of physics. lol sure buddy. Maybe you should work for nasa. lol How's that ebay business going for you?
Ponds & Fleishman never said it was fusion, Dr Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY and her colleagues say this excess energy could be between a nuclear and chemical reaction, they are right, I found Ormes, ORMUS, M-State matter, exotic matter in these cells.
funny that no one can actually prove it work. NO ONE. The only people who claim it works sell the fucking things. LOL right. I smell BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAH DUMB FUCKING people who buy this shit. Maybe I'll start selling some cock pills that make your dick 25 inches over night, lol
lol it has been proven many times, you guys crack me up somehow doing no work on the subject means it has not been proven, This Lee guy is a scammer and clings to any free energy devise out there but that does not mean some of this technology is not real like excess energy from water.
Google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion.
oh how about you google GO FUCK YOURSELF?? See what comes up on that search. Your pure scum. Bottom feeder. You prey on the ignorant, the desperate the poor. Your type has been around since the dawn of time. Hope we never meet.
again lol what part of I don't sell any of this stuff don't you understand? I offer information freely to anyone that is not an idiot like your self and can think for themselves and not have there reality dictated to them like yourself.
@1freedomfighter11 Reality is what it is. We don't get to dictate it and neither do you. Free spread of information is great, but when you don't have any interest in knowing whether it's true or not, honestly, what's the fucking point?
You don't seem to understand I am trying to share some information freely, i am not selling anything, do you see how these people react to me? They treat science like its a religion. The only thing I am trying to say here is it is now a proven fact excess energy can come from water so people need to rethink what they are saying, they are inadvertently playing a roll in suppression. And yes Ponds and Fleishman did do exactly what the US NAVY has now proven a fact. watch the war on coldfusion.
You are a liar. "it is now a proven fact excess energy can come from water " This is 100% bullshit. I bet you got a perpetual motion machine you also sell. lol.
Again, your "information" is WRONG, and I have to ask again, what's the benefit of spreading information if you don't give a fuck as to whether it's true or not?
I don't see anybody treating science like it's a religion. I don't even quite understand what you mean by that.
Your "proven fact" is wrong.
You can watch all the conspiracy theory docuganda you like but it's not going to bend reality to match your fantasies or delusions.
lol are you 12 years old? Ponds & Fleischman ( I doubt you even know who they are because you clearly know nothing about this technology) never said it was fusion at all, that was a term dumped on them by the media.
@1freedomfighter11 Pons & Fleischmann also turned out to be wrong. Apparently you're the one who doesn't know who they are, seeing as you know neither what they did or even how to spell their names.
Bullshit you never said it was fusion. It's EXACTLY what you said.
lol dude its called cold fusion or LENR, ponds and fleishman did not say it was fusion that was a termed dumped on them, i call it cold fusion but that is not where the energy is coming from. Don't put words in my mouth.
Well if I am 12 years old I am smart enough to call a thief a thief. Why did you even bring up cold fusion? HHO is a scam. You know you sell it so why deny it. Dumb ass people will still buy into your pipe dreams. I am just calling you out.
click on my user name it leads to a link that leads to a link of my tree years work i offer freely for anyone to learn. Again i do not sell anything nor work for anyone that does, the only thing i am trying to do is help people save money and help clean up the planet.
sure and I can shoot gold bars out of my ass. you can see but it will cost you. LOL ahahaha sammers are so fucking funny. You would go down with the ship wouldn't you? lol
@1freedomfighter11 Stop repeating yourself. We read you fine the first time. You really have a tough time grasping the notion that you could ever be wrong, don't you?
A clue to what? my information is wrong? you say these things but don't say what you are talking about? i have worked with this stuff for three years, i know every aspect about it so don't say I don't, can i see your work? Oh that's right you just have your ideologies and belief systems, NOTHING MORE.
@1freedomfighter11 You're projecting. You're the one with ideological blinders.
I believe in the scientific method. It's very simple. Hypothesize, test, verify.
You believe in amazing technology and vast conspiracies of suppression, and you collect "information" that supports your theories like old crazy ladies collect junk.
I could write a BS site about fusion in 5 minutes, and you would cling to it as another piece of your "information" just because it tells you what you want to hear.
No you don't believe in true science, you have to have your reality dictated to you by your peers, if you believed in true science you would see that thousands upon thousands are reporting fuel mileage increases and you would understand the work has been done, replication has been shown to you and that you should do the work your self to know what you are talking about. We are not talking old science here but new science.
@1freedomfighter11 Yeah, thousands upon thousands of ordinary people who are doing absolutely no followup work to determine WHY they're seeing mileage increases (whether it's really the HHO or not) or what kind of effects the systems have on their cars in the long run.
That's not scientific experimentation, that's an exercise in confirmation bias.
This is not new science. This is very old science. It's a plain fact that you don't get more energy from burning "HHO" than you put into making it.
That is because the energy is not coming from hydrogen, hydrogen doesn't implode like this energy does. how is the average Joe supposed to explain something he doesn't understand? This is why my discovery of ORMES in these cells is important. Add superconductivity and exotic matter or a fifth state of matter and everything changes. All I am saying is there are things going on here that people should look into more before passing judgment and if they really care about the planet.
part 2: i only use short burst of positive and do way better than hydrogen on demand systems, this is not from hydrogen, look up transmutation and implosions, they are facts with these cells and science will not explain them. Check out browns gas implosions, browns gas has been on the market of over 25 years in water torches.
@1fff11 It's not transmutation. You're just turning H2O into H2 & O2 and back again. There's no energy to be gained in that cycle.
I'm not denying that you can make flammable hydroxy gas from water. I've known about water torches for years. What you don't seem to understand is that THERE IS NO EXCESS ENERGY. Water torches require electric current to turn the water into hydroxy, and the energy you get out of them is less than you put in. Water torches are a convenience thing, not free energy.
part 2: it excites the water molecules and electrons long after positive is connected, you can view something similar to this in a scientific article, google self sputtering well beyond threshold. I am not lying nor would i waist anyone's time, nor do I sell anything, i do want to help people get away from the slavery we are under and want to help clean the planet up though.
@1freedomfighter11 That article isn't talking about water electrolysis, and it mentions excess current, not excess energy. There's a huge difference there. Current is just one dimension of power and power in turn is just one dimension of energy. Excess current is a far, far cry from excess energy.
This is what I am trying to tell you about the department of defence analysis and Dr. Mossier-Boss's work, there is excess energy coming from these cells. and it's not from hydrogen, even the hydrogen on demand systems produce some of this energy. I don't know if you have heard of it but I run what is called a Joe cell, And transmutation requires proton manipulation.
And to be clear i have seen all of my water in my cell turn into a solid substance from only water. Be it a chemical reaction or transmutation science has still not stepped up the plate to explain it is all i am saying. Nor have they with implosions.
@1freedomfighter11 Again you're either ignorant or delusional - science HAS explained it.
As for the solid substance, the water didn't all turn into it. What happened is that either the minerals and impurities precipitated out of the water or some other impurity in the water got electrolyzed.
part 1: lol i am not in denial, i have doubled my fuel mileage. It is you that has done no work on the subject and in denial. Bypassing the oxygen censer is to stop fuel from being added when not needed from the excess energy, you don't need to do this with older vehicles and they increase mileage as well. You have no idea what kind of cell I use,
Again, you're wrong about the oxygen sensor and excess energy - there IS NO excess energy.
There's no way you're doubling your fuel mileage. 5%, maybe even 10% is believable (as I explained before, due to a forced lean burn) but 100% is absurd.
No I doubled my fuel mileage, i actually did better than that at first as i put 120 K in my car on empty. And no I am not wrong about oxygen sensors, they measure the flow of oxygen and supply fuel ratio according to the readings.
You're right about what you just said now - they measure the flow of oxygen and the computer supplies the proper amount of fuel according to the reading.
Where you went wrong is in failing to account for how a lean burn works and how the oxygen in Brown's Gas throws the sensor off.
You still haven't answered my question about *how* you conducted the test.
What article? Coldfusion? It is electrolysis of water, and yes ALL of my water as transmuted into a mud lie substance. if you go to griffinsofdawnDOTcom, general forums topic my latest battery experiments last page you can see the latest transmutation or chemical reaction from my cell. I did my tests by adding $10 of fuel and keeping track of my mileage, i went from 16 MPG to 32 MPG.
Electrolysis is a chemical reaction and fusion is a nuclear reaction. They are two entirely different things: Chemical reactions are elements like H and O linking together in different ways. Nuclear reactions are elements fusing together or splitting to make different elements (e.g. H atoms fusing together to make He atoms).
About your test again: How did you get an accurate measurement of the fuel used and distance traveled?
I have not had to mess with oxygen censors yet because I did my work in older cars that dint have them but I do now have to trick the oxygen censors with these cells. I think it kinda works like this, these censors keep spitting out the same amount of fuel when it is not needed do to the energy from the cells.
@1freedomfighter11 But there's very, very little energy coming from the cells. The reason you have to trick the sensors is because of the amount of oxygen produced by the cells.
@1freedomfighter11 Work? I don't see any work there. I see a bunch of stuff that any teenager could find in 5 minutes on Google (and 10 minutes to find out it's wrong!).
If that's three years' worth of work, I'm sorry, but that's really, really sad.
lol for one thing you didn't have time to read the 25 pages of my work, you followed the first link to where I discuss some of it, but you did not go the my original work where I posted it as I started to play with these cells, nice try though.
Not at all Denis Lee is an obvious scammer and there are others out there as well. some people put 2 washers in a container and sell them, it's a scam. This Lee clown clings on to any claims and it is obvious he only cares about money. But you don't though away the baby with the bathwater. As for myth busters they dint build and charge there cell properly, lol they dint even have bubbles coming out of there cells. There is a process called seeding or incubation period involved with these cells.
As for datelines test, it could have been these people building and installing these units are scammers, or they don't understand the incubation period, or they don't understand oxygen sensors have to by bypassed, or if they had there intake line to close to any electrical systems it could hinder it, there are so many aspects that could have gone wrong, this is a energy not widely understood.
@1freedomfighter11 No, the energy's solidly understood. It's the operating principles of modern fuel injected engines that people have trouble understanding.
When you bypass the oxygen sensor you're making the engine run with a different fuel-air ratio than it's intended to run. This could give you slightly better gas mileage. But you're just as likely to end up with more pollution rather than less because the catalytic converter can't handle the extra toxins from the lean burn.
It's incredible how some stupid people say that oil companies are trying to stop these HHO devices from being installed in vehicles to protect their business. Oil companies are not interested in a worthless piece of junk that some backyard mechanic is installing under a car hood. The fact is that these devices have been proven not to work and will never work. Anyone who believes that a conspiracy exists to stop these devices probably believes that the tooth fairy exists as well.
WHITE PEOPLE = BEST ACTORS and BEST CON ARTIST on planet earth.
HistoryHmoobGuy 1 month ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy Wow... do you enjoy being a racist or is it just a passtime for you? Your ignorance does not anger me but saddens me...
RenewedFaith 1 month ago
@RenewedFaith LoL, I speak the truth !
HistoryHmoobGuy 1 month ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy As only an ignorant racist could I suppose... perhaps it is not you who is at fault for you way of thinking... but your upbringing. How sad that people with such a limited view point are sill permited to have access to a public forum such as this.
RenewedFaith 1 month ago
@RenewedFaith dude !, white people love to talk shit about my people ! OK !, Why cant we talk shit back ?
HistoryHmoobGuy 1 month ago
Your a shill. I have a few hydrogen cells and each one of them work. It is really obvious by what videos you upload and your user name that your really mad about the entire HHO concept. I bet you work for an oil company. Maybe even the public affairs. You are dis info and I love people like you,because its so funny to see the "big guy" weak and scared. Thank you!!
kren2012 2 months ago
@kren2012 exactly!!!!!!!!
punkchewbacca 1 month ago
BULL SHIT!!!! I have a little cell in my car. I got 35 more miles per gallon and I made it for my self. This is about the weakest bull shit I have ever seen. Can you say the Media was bought out by the petro company to discredit hydrogen generators?
kren2012 2 months ago
0:37 - No, they're not looking for alternative fuels to lower dependence... they're looking for a way to continue a convenient lifestyle without having to pay for it.
HillChris1234 2 months ago
...there is an evil axis in the U.S. and its 1>The Oil Companies, 2>The Pharmacudical Companies 3>The Insurance Companies. By destroying oil and insurance companies and regulating the Pharmacudical companies we will wipe out over 98% of the corruption in the U.S. Govt. The nastiest of the axis is big oil so we are going after them first which is why I dedicate my research to the mass distribution of my 100% HHO fuel for cars units and brag about how they cant stop me, we all have guns....
VonBraun87545 2 months ago
The media coverage of the Hydrogen installer is trying very hard to discredit this installer, trying to make him look like a scam but he's not a scam. I build HHO units that run ANY vehicle on PURE water with no gas. I'm not afraid of the big oil companies, instead I know for a fact the oil companies are afraid of us, all of us and this false media coverage proves that. Oh how the tables have turned on big oil. We now have them in the defensive position and we plan to put them out of business!!!
VonBraun87545 2 months ago
@VonBraun87545 It takes more energy to create the hydrogen than can be recovered by using that hydrogen. In addition, an internal combustion engine only converts a third of the supplied energy in the fuel into mechanical energy. Any HHO device would have to be at least 350% efficient in order to overcome system losses. That is impossible.
randacnam7321 1 month ago
Thanks for uploading this! Great to see Hansen doesn't catch only pedos!
mattsnow81 4 months ago
Looks like 13 people who viewed this are HHO kit retailers.
dick117 5 months ago
this guy was working on self running motor also
timelineman37 5 months ago
I saw a form of the question "why wouldn't car manufacturers use it then?" GM is owned by chase manhattan corps which also controls the big five oil companies, it wouldn't make sense for them to use it. Orgler invented a car that got 200 mpg using a "vapor-only" system. It was s huge deal and got a lot of media coverage until he just up and disappeared after being offered millions for the patent. How far would you go to protect a trillion dollar investment? Big oil is doing just that.
jonnyvanb1 6 months ago
The American system of government would be the best in the world if the interests of big business were weighted properly in the system. Communication between congress and big business is important, but America was founded on freedom of thought, speech, press, and religion. They ought to add an amendment that disallows big business from prohibiting advancement of technology for monetary reasons. Let the antiquated companies die so the new ones can bring us out of recession. It is nature's way.
jonnyvanb1 6 months ago
I have seen a car with my own two eyes that runs on pure vegetable oil. I have seen a car with my own two eyes that has run on nothing but electricity and water. If we can make a combustion engine that runs on electricity then we'll have the power to stop polluting whats left of our beautiful ecosystems by using full scale alternatives. No dependence on foreign oil or any oil at all. The problem is that you have presidents who own oil companies and former CEOs of big energy corps in congress
jonnyvanb1 6 months ago
This is absolutely ridiculous. The Rockefellers own the parent company of NBC and are doing exactly what they did with the Diesel engine. Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil and when his patent was bought out by Standard Oil, they put out propaganda through newspapers and other outlets that using peanut oil didn't work in a Diesel engine and that Diesel was lying. NBC says keep buying gas because their boss said so. Big oil is scared by this tech, and they can't suppress it.
jonnyvanb1 6 months ago
I guess we'll just have to wait a little longer. But not impossible. Go back 100 years and try to tell someone about a computer+monitor. Just because we don't understand something now doesn't mean we won't soon.
GeekingForJesus 6 months ago
If I could afford $2,000 for a unit. then I can afford gas. No doubt there are people who want to scam anything & everything and ruin things for everybody else. However, I've built 3 different units of my own design. The most money spent on one was $30. I put them my cars. The MPG increase was not 50% but it was enough for me to keep using them. My motorcycle would go 60 miles on a 2 gal tank. now it goes 80 miles on the same tank. Don't let people tell what works or not . Do things for yourself
wcemichael 7 months ago
Chris Hanson needs to be beat with a tire iron, he sticks his nose into everything. I do not care if he is an investigative journalist the guy is annoying, and arrogant. His egotistical ass needs roasting.
HydrolicXL 8 months ago
It amuses me how much money was spent on ridiculing this guy,( I think his figures are very exaggerated). As far as I am concerned the basic hho gen that I made for my car increased mileage by an average of 30%.
I don't care if no one believes me, It's saving me money .
twinboost 8 months ago
It's so sad that the basic science gets missed in the such simple science. Water has very low energy and gasoline has very high energy.
Jotter324Studios 9 months ago
This is like when they found a 30% effective cure for aids lol
chamblizi 9 months ago
"So we hired a government approved company" - pretty much sums it all up. The oil cartels OWN all the governments. What do you think they will really find? Of course they don't want alternative energies on the market. The government can't control that.
This documentary is half truth / half lie to discredit the alternative technology that really exists. The video has been done by professionals to make alternative energy appear "silly" and not worth investigating further. Oil / gas is obsolete.
JakeThanksYou 9 months ago
Where's the rest of the video? Why is it cut off at the final results?
ksmnet 10 months ago
Remember guys, gas companies will pay anyone including news corporations to silence or destroy a person or device from selling because gas/oil companies will lose a lot of money so what IF this works and that the news station were paid to make it seem that it doesn't work :P
davidboofer 10 months ago
What is the price of a dealship today??? $300,00-NO! $30,000-NO! $3,000-NO! $300-NO! $30-NO! $3-NO! 3 cents-NO! And that is TRUTH here.
nneads 10 months ago
Even I could work this out when I was in primary school, it's simple logic. The gas companies and governments making money from them didn't want people to know about these simple solutions. However now that the oil is running out they don't seem to mind as much........
themongru 11 months ago
Hydrogen cannot not have two bonds, If you passed high school chemistry, you learned this FACT. doesnt it kind of blow your mind that some guy from nowhere "discovered" this technology? When Large corporations such as Gas Companies, and Automakers are putting billions of research into alternative fuels?
austenaholley 1 year ago
@austenaholley
so does that mean that hydrogen doesnt come from water? what does it not having 2 bonds even mean?
j23araluce 1 year ago
@j23araluce apparently i misunderstood this concept, but no it is impossible for hydrogen to have two bonds, but oxygen can, so yes oxygen can hold the two bonds... and hydrogen does come from water... but in the end im not quite sure what kind of wack job explanation is given for HHO. The people who believe in this type of thing (HHO) are not stupid, just misinformed.
austenaholley 11 months ago
You idiots, I'm a Marine, and they are making a really good HHO system to Hybrid up the Humm V's. If it's so fake then why is the poorest branch of the Military making good use of it. NBC and all of these ACTORS, are fake as hell. Even the guys on this video that say that they "have sold and worked on many vehicles" and showed a whiteboard of mileage gains are in on this propaganda to try and lie to the people AMERICA, come on, I mean Come On, you really gonna believe this BULLSHIT VIDEO.
askaboutRudyV 1 year ago
@askaboutRudyV Fuck you, your a fake marine, plus you are just a child killer and like to kill innocent people, no one respectsou , youre a faggot!
agenthelios1 10 months ago
@agenthelios1 Boo, freakin' HOO. You are a BIG man talking like this behind a keyboard aren't you. You are such an ignorant prick. Plus you say I'm fake, and then you say what some Marines have done, and you say that I have done those things, so that means you are calling me a Marine, right after you said I wasn't one. Once again IGnorant prick. And yes, I don't really like Motarded (motivated retard) Marines either. Most of them are a bunch of loud obnocious drunks, and yes..
askaboutRudyV 10 months ago
@agenthelios1 .....some of them do go crazy and rape people, just recently (A year or so ago) there was a unit called 3/1, or maybe it was some other unit, were their single Marines weren't allowed to leave base, because this squad (group of 13 Marines and 1 NAVY Doc) raped some civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan (Can't remember which of those 2 countries), they all got demoted to Private and sent to the Brig (NAVY Jail), for some years, and ruined it for the rest of their unit (Like 1,500 others)
askaboutRudyV 10 months ago
@agenthelios1 Yeah your right, some did kill babies and others. So did the ARMY too. EVERY COUNTRY IN HISTORY that has invaded another country (or that is at war with another country) has done this. So before you start singling out MARINES, and blaming ONLY MARINES for these disgusting deeds, when in reality you should be blaming your own species for this, because it is always someone who is a Human Man, and that has a penis, so basically that doesn't just narrow it down.....
askaboutRudyV 10 months ago
@agenthelios1 ...to us Marines, it narrows it down to every race of every country of every person that is a man and that has no morals and no heart and no control and no discipline, well just the ones that are like that, and they are all over, it's not every one of every branch. You IGNORANT PRICK. You need to study some History or something, or ask someone who knows their History, and that's not a GENIUS like yourself. Cuntbag.
askaboutRudyV 10 months ago
I can't believe so many people fall for this HHO shit. This guy has been arrested for fraud before. Don't people realize that if HHO worked, every carmaker in the world would put them in every vehicle they sold and double their profits? Fucking idiots!
SakoTGrimes 1 year ago
@SakoTGrimes The thing is, as a stipulation of Opec, alternative energy research is prohibited. HHO can work, it is just a matter of figuring out how. When it does actually work it will be all over youtube because there are several DIYers working at it.
Jeeperanthony 1 year ago
Looks like a typical carney
nucks1111 1 year ago
Never mind his little powerpoint bull shit psuedo scientists
like EnergySupply2008
watch?v=176h_I51Kgk
DutchUnited71 1 year ago
Have a "Blue Pill" dude!
Honea Path Police Department and Mayor endorses HHO System
DutchUnited71 1 year ago
5 HHO scammers and maybe Dennis Lee disliked this video.. :D
CaptianObviousIII 1 year ago
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superwhiz88 1 year ago
he probaly is a scammer but " you tube" stan meyers, then john cristie there are a lot smarter people than you dumb arses that think the earth is flat and thats that. and guess what their aussies too"dumb arse yanks"
34ramjet 1 year ago
So the supposed new fuel mileage figure which Sam Burlem quoted was 96mpg fron the original manufacturers 34 mpg (and after getting caught in a bit of traffic) and then the new 'revised fuel mileage figure' he quotes is 57.77mpg supposedly due to having extra weight and 4 people in the car. So if each extra person excluding driver weighed 90kg that's 270Kg and that is supposed to somehow reduce the fuel economy by a whopping 38.23mpg..that's laughable...
Voxson1 1 year ago
Give it up, you HHO quacks ! All your attempts to create a false sense that it works, isn't working. *Especially* in this video.
Everyone that watches this video quickly discovers that it simply can not and does not work. Ever. Period.
Anyway, don't you QUACKS have some fake videos to publish on your own pathetic little fraud channels?
Wish oh wish your "customers" don't ever see this video - you CONS !
a1mint 1 year ago 2
The losses in an on board on demand HHO generator system are in fact far worse than most realize!
We all know that the internal combustion process to convert energy to kinetic motion is fundamentally inefficient, because the increased pressure from an explosion is supposed to move a piston down because the outside atmospheric pressure is lower.
So, you end up doing this TWICE ! Once to tap energy to generate HHO gas, and then the burning of that HHO. That's doubling up the process.
OUCH !
a1mint 1 year ago 4
I built my own hho system for far less than this bloodsucker. I was getting 14mph on my 91 F150. With the hho i got it to 27mph for about a week, then the computer corrected back to the 14mph. Gave up on the idea for awhile. But I'm not done, I'll fix the problem. If you build your own following youtube and google the answers you won't fail. Trial and error! Don't give up.
wantblackwolf 1 year ago
@wantblackwolf You never got 27 mpg on your F150. Noway hosay.
a1mint 1 year ago 3
@a1mint I'm sorry I didn't see you in my truck with me when I refilled my gas tank and did the math with a calculator. You must of put gas in my tank to make me think I got 27 mph.
wantblackwolf 1 year ago
@wantblackwolf You did not get 27 mpg on your F150, period.
a1mint 1 year ago 3
@a1mint you can't say something doesn't work till you tried it. If you have tried it and it did not work for you than you did something wrong. There are so many videos here on youtube that show that it does work. If you still don't believe that it works fine that does not mean the rest of us have to believe what you say.
wantblackwolf 1 year ago
@wantblackwolf You did not get 27 mpg on your F150, period.
All credible evidence shows that mpg only goes down. And that makes sense, because the extra load the alternator puts on the engine does not come for free. Expensive gas explosion energy is used to generate electricity which is used to split water, and then that puny amount of energy is then exploded a second time.
Double up inefficient. Plus all the heat losses all over the place.
HHO == A LIE !
a1mint 1 year ago 3
@a1mint Like I said if you don't believe it that's fine, I do so that's good enough for me.
wantblackwolf 1 year ago
@wantblackwolf
30% unburned. Pfff, and you actually expect anyone to believe that...
You *ARE* a liar !
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@wantblackwolf O wait ! I thought that I was talking to XCritonX, who claimed that 30% of fuel goes unburned in gasoline cars. Sorry about that.
Ok, 27 mpg on a F150. That's right, I don't believe you.
a1mint 1 year ago
Dateline admits the reason this particular installation is ineffective is because the apparatus installed does not produce sufficient quantities of hydrogen. That doesn't mean that the entire process is a fraud.
Dateline is not interested in the science; they are only interested in exposing this particular scam artist.
I would like to see them expose the real criminals and scam artists who've been repressing technology for decades in order to keep us chained to the gas pump.
KevinMerck 1 year ago
@KevinMerck Yes, the entire process is a fraud. Front to back, left to right, inside out. A bona fide in your face FACT.
The HHO part sales people here with their lies are so transparent it just aint funny.
a1mint 1 year ago 4
@KevinMerck
It is not science. Watch all my videos about HHO and you will understand that it is technically impossible for HHO to increase miles per gallon. All the numbers needed are in the videos.
EnergySupply2008 1 year ago
Water and hydrogen injection can help to increase the efficiency of internal combustion engines by up to 10% by lowering engine temp costs. Beyond that it will not help. You can get the same benefits by getting your cars CPU remapped.
If it increases efficiency and power you will find a tuner doing it. They know all of the ways to squeeze more out of an ICE.
XCritonX 1 year ago
@XCritonX You can not increase mpg 10% through an on board on demand HHO system, period !
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@a1mint The water vapor injection (not necessarily HHO) can aid some poorly functioning industrial IC engines to burn more cleanly and efficiently. However their are cheaper and more efficient ways to solve the issue.
XCritonX 1 year ago
@XCritonX 99+% of the gasoline is already used in standard vehicle IC engines. Where's the gain to be had?
a1mint 1 year ago 3
@a1mint Gasoline IC engines burn less than 70% of available fuel. The rest is burnt off in the catalytic converter. Current fuel saving technologies are often focused on increasing that range.
You should do some more in depth research into current fuel saving technologies used by the major manufactures.
XCritonX 1 year ago
@XCritonX 99%+ of gasoline is burned. Not 70%. Provide credible evidence that it's 70%. Unless you do, you're just making this up.
It's you that needs to do some actual research, instead of pretending you know things, you lying sack of shit !
a1mint 1 year ago 4
@a1mint I am sorry, but I am not going to teach you a free course in IC engine theory. Fuel not burning or burning at the wrong time is a major cause of IC engine inefficiency. For that reason the high compression injection system was developed to prevent early burn of fuel. Late burn of fuel still has not been successfully tackled.
I don't mean to offend but you are too ignorant of IC engines to school you on YouTube. You need a basic background to understand the explanation.
XCritonX 1 year ago
@XCritonX Suggesting that 30% of fuel is unburned, followed up by a lecture how supposedly you are far more knowledgeable about engines, just makes you look incredibly arrogant and stupid, just like the rest of the HHO quacks out there.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@XCritonX
Watch this video to understand why hydrogen or HHO is not magical.
watch?v=zy1GdP4GYkM
EnergySupply2008 1 year ago
@XCritonX
John Heywood, the most recognized expert on the IC engine, states that at least 98 percent of the gasoline is burned. He is the head Professor at the prestigious MIT. 36 percent of the heat goes out the exhaust, 34 percent to the cooling system and 6 percent to the surrounding air. If 30 percent was burned in the cal it would destroy the cat as temperatures would go above the max of 1250 F. Study and learn. HHO is a total scam.
EnergySupply2008 1 year ago
@EnergySupply2008 FCUK MIT They in SHELLS Pocket.
DutchUnited71 1 year ago 2
That's funny, he says his devices don't always work..well he must be able to tell the buyer in what cases it will and will not work if it's been tested properly. I would think if a device like this was fitted to a Toyota for example and it worked it wouldn't matter what make of car it was fitted GM, Ford, it should still work as the basic principle of engine operation between manufacturers is the same.. It seems like the device doesn't work at all to save fuel or emissions.
Voxson1 1 year ago 22
@Voxson1
Yea cars all have high-technology fuel injection and not neccesarily at all are they set up the same, but cars have to abide by all the same rules, blah blah. But if hes talking about newer cars and hes talking about upwards of 100% increases then why wouldnt any newer car see at least a dramatic increase. Plus of course his claim to test so many cars and all have dramatic improvements. Hes focusing on profit and positive attention torwards the product at his speech not on specifics.
94EglVisionTSI 1 year ago
@94EglVisionTSI Yeah any newer car should theoretically see a dramatic increase as they all operate under the same rules but trouble is the product is a scam. He cannnot focus on specifics in his speech because he has none as the device doesn't work..you can only get specifics if something actually works and you have real results. You are correct that he is focusing on profit and positive attention to the product because that is what con artists do best.. they dupe people who do not understand.
Voxson1 1 year ago
@Voxson1 well the factor of this is this is 89% more effective then tornados
chamblizi 9 months ago
"Reset your computer" What a load of BS! I've heard of remapping the ecu (basically changing the configuration so the engine burns leaner, more HP at the cost of fuel economy), but that resetting line was a crock.
TruthBeyond 2 years ago 9
HHO=SCAM
mcnabj 2 years ago 4
HHO=scam
mcnabj 2 years ago 3
HHO=scam
mcnabj 2 years ago 5
How many people have reported fuel mileage increases that you have blatantly ignored. you would have swore up and down heaver that air flight was imposable as the wright brothers where flying there plains until they flew over your head. Stop treating science like a religion dude.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
A few. I usually take the time to determine whether they've done something even approaching a proper test
Science never said powered flight was impossible. The naysayers in the Wright Bros.' time just thought that the engineering and materials of the era weren't good enough yet.
And again, I'm not treating science like a religion. The problem is you seem to think it works like town hall democracy. No matter how much you want something to work your way, it won't magically make it so.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
HHO=SCAM
mcnabj 2 years ago
HHO=BULLSHIT
mcnabj 2 years ago 2
HHO=BULLSHIT
mcnabj 2 years ago 3
A fOOL and HIS money are soon parted. There ios a special place in hell for these snake oil salesmen. They are the worst type of thief. they pray on desperate people. They are bottom feeders. I would shed no tears if they all got murdered. FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
mcnabj 2 years ago
Excess energy has now been PROVEN coming from water fuel cells, google department of defence cold fusion, or google Dr. Mossier-Boss of the US NAVY cold fusion. It's even in wki now and encyclopedia britannica known as muon catalyse fusion.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
HORSE SHIT IN THE VERY FIRST DEGREE
a1mint 2 years ago 2
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1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Your post demonstrate your IQ very clearly.
Google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
lol sure. Excess energy ahahah lol Let me guess that you sel HHO kits on ebay? ahahah a sucker born every second.
mcnabj 2 years ago
Nope, i don't sell anything, try looking up what I said you might actually learn something instead of assuming.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Sure I'm going to trust some fuck bag scam artist who thinks he can beat the basic pronciples of physics. lol sure buddy. Maybe you should work for nasa. lol How's that ebay business going for you?
mcnabj 2 years ago 2
HHO/water4gas is a chemical reaction. It has absolutely nothing to do with nuclear fusion.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
Ponds & Fleishman never said it was fusion, Dr Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY and her colleagues say this excess energy could be between a nuclear and chemical reaction, they are right, I found Ormes, ORMUS, M-State matter, exotic matter in these cells.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
stop pushing your bullshit. stfu and die.
mcnabj 2 years ago
Hahahaha your name describes it all.
JohnkHutchinson2010 2 years ago
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM
mcnabj 2 years ago 2
No it's not a scam.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Yes it is you dumb fuck !
a1mint 2 years ago
funny that no one can actually prove it work. NO ONE. The only people who claim it works sell the fucking things. LOL right. I smell BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAH DUMB FUCKING people who buy this shit. Maybe I'll start selling some cock pills that make your dick 25 inches over night, lol
mcnabj 2 years ago
lol it has been proven many times, you guys crack me up somehow doing no work on the subject means it has not been proven, This Lee guy is a scammer and clings to any free energy devise out there but that does not mean some of this technology is not real like excess energy from water.
Google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Funny they can never prove it on when put on the spot. RIGHT!!!! I trust the laws of Thermodynamics
over your fucking lying mouth. Oh Did I tell you to go fuck yourself? If not GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mcnabj 2 years ago
Google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
oh how about you google GO FUCK YOURSELF?? See what comes up on that search. Your pure scum. Bottom feeder. You prey on the ignorant, the desperate the poor. Your type has been around since the dawn of time. Hope we never meet.
mcnabj 2 years ago
again lol what part of I don't sell any of this stuff don't you understand? I offer information freely to anyone that is not an idiot like your self and can think for themselves and not have there reality dictated to them like yourself.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
sure I'll take you on your fucking word. lol. Ebay sales must be booming.
mcnabj 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Reality is what it is. We don't get to dictate it and neither do you. Free spread of information is great, but when you don't have any interest in knowing whether it's true or not, honestly, what's the fucking point?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
You don't seem to understand I am trying to share some information freely, i am not selling anything, do you see how these people react to me? They treat science like its a religion. The only thing I am trying to say here is it is now a proven fact excess energy can come from water so people need to rethink what they are saying, they are inadvertently playing a roll in suppression. And yes Ponds and Fleishman did do exactly what the US NAVY has now proven a fact. watch the war on coldfusion.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
You are a liar. "it is now a proven fact excess energy can come from water " This is 100% bullshit. I bet you got a perpetual motion machine you also sell. lol.
mcnabj 2 years ago
Again, your "information" is WRONG, and I have to ask again, what's the benefit of spreading information if you don't give a fuck as to whether it's true or not?
I don't see anybody treating science like it's a religion. I don't even quite understand what you mean by that.
Your "proven fact" is wrong.
You can watch all the conspiracy theory docuganda you like but it's not going to bend reality to match your fantasies or delusions.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr.Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion and call them a liar.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
we are not talking about cold fusion fuck hole. We are talking about the HHO scam that you sell on ebay.
mcnabj 2 years ago
lol are you 12 years old? Ponds & Fleischman ( I doubt you even know who they are because you clearly know nothing about this technology) never said it was fusion at all, that was a term dumped on them by the media.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Pons & Fleischmann also turned out to be wrong. Apparently you're the one who doesn't know who they are, seeing as you know neither what they did or even how to spell their names.
Bullshit you never said it was fusion. It's EXACTLY what you said.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
lol dude its called cold fusion or LENR, ponds and fleishman did not say it was fusion that was a termed dumped on them, i call it cold fusion but that is not where the energy is coming from. Don't put words in my mouth.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 You call it "cold fusion"? Oh my God, you're really living in your own little world, aren't you?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
lol it's called coldfusion or LENR, that does not mean that is where the excess energy is coming from.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Well if I am 12 years old I am smart enough to call a thief a thief. Why did you even bring up cold fusion? HHO is a scam. You know you sell it so why deny it. Dumb ass people will still buy into your pipe dreams. I am just calling you out.
mcnabj 2 years ago
I don't sell anything at all to do with this technology and never have.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 So what are you doing shilling for the people that are, then?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
you are a liar. you have no honor.
mcnabj 2 years ago
click on my user name it leads to a link that leads to a link of my tree years work i offer freely for anyone to learn. Again i do not sell anything nor work for anyone that does, the only thing i am trying to do is help people save money and help clean up the planet.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
sure and I can shoot gold bars out of my ass. you can see but it will cost you. LOL ahahaha sammers are so fucking funny. You would go down with the ship wouldn't you? lol
mcnabj 2 years ago
google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr.Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion and call them a liar.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Stop repeating yourself. We read you fine the first time. You really have a tough time grasping the notion that you could ever be wrong, don't you?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
please go shove that hho setup up your ass. we are talking about hho you dimwitted monkey.
mcnabj 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 you should start by getting a clue for yourself.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
A clue to what? my information is wrong? you say these things but don't say what you are talking about? i have worked with this stuff for three years, i know every aspect about it so don't say I don't, can i see your work? Oh that's right you just have your ideologies and belief systems, NOTHING MORE.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 You're projecting. You're the one with ideological blinders.
I believe in the scientific method. It's very simple. Hypothesize, test, verify.
You believe in amazing technology and vast conspiracies of suppression, and you collect "information" that supports your theories like old crazy ladies collect junk.
I could write a BS site about fusion in 5 minutes, and you would cling to it as another piece of your "information" just because it tells you what you want to hear.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
No you don't believe in true science, you have to have your reality dictated to you by your peers, if you believed in true science you would see that thousands upon thousands are reporting fuel mileage increases and you would understand the work has been done, replication has been shown to you and that you should do the work your self to know what you are talking about. We are not talking old science here but new science.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Yeah, thousands upon thousands of ordinary people who are doing absolutely no followup work to determine WHY they're seeing mileage increases (whether it's really the HHO or not) or what kind of effects the systems have on their cars in the long run.
That's not scientific experimentation, that's an exercise in confirmation bias.
This is not new science. This is very old science. It's a plain fact that you don't get more energy from burning "HHO" than you put into making it.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
That is because the energy is not coming from hydrogen, hydrogen doesn't implode like this energy does. how is the average Joe supposed to explain something he doesn't understand? This is why my discovery of ORMES in these cells is important. Add superconductivity and exotic matter or a fifth state of matter and everything changes. All I am saying is there are things going on here that people should look into more before passing judgment and if they really care about the planet.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 You're getting way too far ahead of yourself.
These cells use simple electrolysis. All you're doing with various different cell designs is improving the efficiency of the electrolysis.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
part 2: i only use short burst of positive and do way better than hydrogen on demand systems, this is not from hydrogen, look up transmutation and implosions, they are facts with these cells and science will not explain them. Check out browns gas implosions, browns gas has been on the market of over 25 years in water torches.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1fff11 It's not transmutation. You're just turning H2O into H2 & O2 and back again. There's no energy to be gained in that cycle.
I'm not denying that you can make flammable hydroxy gas from water. I've known about water torches for years. What you don't seem to understand is that THERE IS NO EXCESS ENERGY. Water torches require electric current to turn the water into hydroxy, and the energy you get out of them is less than you put in. Water torches are a convenience thing, not free energy.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
In case I didn't make it clear enough: It's not transmutation, it's just a simple chemical reaction.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
part 2: it excites the water molecules and electrons long after positive is connected, you can view something similar to this in a scientific article, google self sputtering well beyond threshold. I am not lying nor would i waist anyone's time, nor do I sell anything, i do want to help people get away from the slavery we are under and want to help clean the planet up though.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 That article isn't talking about water electrolysis, and it mentions excess current, not excess energy. There's a huge difference there. Current is just one dimension of power and power in turn is just one dimension of energy. Excess current is a far, far cry from excess energy.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
This is what I am trying to tell you about the department of defence analysis and Dr. Mossier-Boss's work, there is excess energy coming from these cells. and it's not from hydrogen, even the hydrogen on demand systems produce some of this energy. I don't know if you have heard of it but I run what is called a Joe cell, And transmutation requires proton manipulation.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 You're right, transmutation requires proton manipulation - and no such thing is happening here.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
And to be clear i have seen all of my water in my cell turn into a solid substance from only water. Be it a chemical reaction or transmutation science has still not stepped up the plate to explain it is all i am saying. Nor have they with implosions.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Again you're either ignorant or delusional - science HAS explained it.
As for the solid substance, the water didn't all turn into it. What happened is that either the minerals and impurities precipitated out of the water or some other impurity in the water got electrolyzed.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
part 1: lol i am not in denial, i have doubled my fuel mileage. It is you that has done no work on the subject and in denial. Bypassing the oxygen censer is to stop fuel from being added when not needed from the excess energy, you don't need to do this with older vehicles and they increase mileage as well. You have no idea what kind of cell I use,
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 How have you been measuring your fuel consumption?
Again, you're wrong about the oxygen sensor and excess energy - there IS NO excess energy.
There's no way you're doubling your fuel mileage. 5%, maybe even 10% is believable (as I explained before, due to a forced lean burn) but 100% is absurd.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
No I doubled my fuel mileage, i actually did better than that at first as i put 120 K in my car on empty. And no I am not wrong about oxygen sensors, they measure the flow of oxygen and supply fuel ratio according to the readings.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 You are wrong about oxygen sensors.
You're right about what you just said now - they measure the flow of oxygen and the computer supplies the proper amount of fuel according to the reading.
Where you went wrong is in failing to account for how a lean burn works and how the oxygen in Brown's Gas throws the sensor off.
You still haven't answered my question about *how* you conducted the test.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
What article? Coldfusion? It is electrolysis of water, and yes ALL of my water as transmuted into a mud lie substance. if you go to griffinsofdawnDOTcom, general forums topic my latest battery experiments last page you can see the latest transmutation or chemical reaction from my cell. I did my tests by adding $10 of fuel and keeping track of my mileage, i went from 16 MPG to 32 MPG.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Electrolysis is a chemical reaction and fusion is a nuclear reaction. They are two entirely different things: Chemical reactions are elements like H and O linking together in different ways. Nuclear reactions are elements fusing together or splitting to make different elements (e.g. H atoms fusing together to make He atoms).
About your test again: How did you get an accurate measurement of the fuel used and distance traveled?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
you can view all my work at griffinsofdawnDOTcom tome section titled free energy source.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
I have not had to mess with oxygen censors yet because I did my work in older cars that dint have them but I do now have to trick the oxygen censors with these cells. I think it kinda works like this, these censors keep spitting out the same amount of fuel when it is not needed do to the energy from the cells.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 But there's very, very little energy coming from the cells. The reason you have to trick the sensors is because of the amount of oxygen produced by the cells.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Work? I don't see any work there. I see a bunch of stuff that any teenager could find in 5 minutes on Google (and 10 minutes to find out it's wrong!).
If that's three years' worth of work, I'm sorry, but that's really, really sad.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
lol for one thing you didn't have time to read the 25 pages of my work, you followed the first link to where I discuss some of it, but you did not go the my original work where I posted it as I started to play with these cells, nice try though.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 And what do you have to say about the Mythbusters' work with HHO or Dateline's more expert test?
Oh right, they determined it didn't work, so obviously you're going to say they're wrong and ignore it, right?
NRen2k5 2 years ago
Not at all Denis Lee is an obvious scammer and there are others out there as well. some people put 2 washers in a container and sell them, it's a scam. This Lee clown clings on to any claims and it is obvious he only cares about money. But you don't though away the baby with the bathwater. As for myth busters they dint build and charge there cell properly, lol they dint even have bubbles coming out of there cells. There is a process called seeding or incubation period involved with these cells.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 Just listen to yourself. You're in denial. Get over it.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
As for datelines test, it could have been these people building and installing these units are scammers, or they don't understand the incubation period, or they don't understand oxygen sensors have to by bypassed, or if they had there intake line to close to any electrical systems it could hinder it, there are so many aspects that could have gone wrong, this is a energy not widely understood.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 No, the energy's solidly understood. It's the operating principles of modern fuel injected engines that people have trouble understanding.
When you bypass the oxygen sensor you're making the engine run with a different fuel-air ratio than it's intended to run. This could give you slightly better gas mileage. But you're just as likely to end up with more pollution rather than less because the catalytic converter can't handle the extra toxins from the lean burn.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
Police uses HHO Powered Vehicles To Save On Gas
watch?v=bv21pvM9akM
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
in fantasy land??
mcnabj 2 years ago
Google department of defence coldfusion, or Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion and call them liars.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
@1freedomfighter11 It's a small-town police department. They got duped. It happens.
NRen2k5 2 years ago
It's incredible how some stupid people say that oil companies are trying to stop these HHO devices from being installed in vehicles to protect their business. Oil companies are not interested in a worthless piece of junk that some backyard mechanic is installing under a car hood. The fact is that these devices have been proven not to work and will never work. Anyone who believes that a conspiracy exists to stop these devices probably believes that the tooth fairy exists as well.
Penazzi 2 years ago