No matter what people say...this recording is a treasure made by the earliest-born pianist to have his playing preserved in any format. June 23, 1824 – March 10, 1910
I read that we didn't have any pianists born before 1840 playing .now this totally clear but not well played treasure shows up. The training is infinitesimally better these days. The amazing thing is there are no Hofmann's . Funny Rach wasn't much impressed with Cortot .I can't believe we have several recs of this man! The Mozart i'm afraid to hear but one generation must hear this. What will Mozart sound like when there are no more plants &we live on machine made planets?
I'm not upset... I get enjoyment out of being caustic, but it's nothing personal. My whole point was making fun of inexperienced listeners (well, at least one in particular) while at the same time writing like one.
Did you know that The earliest born pianist ever to record on music roll was Carl Reinecke, who came into the world on 23 June 1824, three years before the death of Beethoven.
Keep in mind, he was in his 80s when this was made. He was much better in his earlier years. Check out his Piano Concerto #3 sometime, along with some other works: I think he's one of the greatest composers of all time.
tastes change with the times, as does language, as does philosophy, ideals, knowledge, religious beliefs etc..
who is more adept at playing classical music, an aristocratic European of the 18-19th century, a balinese peasant, or a shopping-centre-dwelling american which grew up watching TV?
what's the use of even studying the art of the past then? since we all have the same 'perception'?
only problem is that the people who went to the concerts in the 1800-1850 period were LIVING in the same period, and the music was then modern and understood..
'as they wished' was in the style of the times.. not in our current style.
Just as technically perfect as GLENN GOULD there I said it. Now I'm expecting a visit from Smith Sherman. Seriously though, Smith has good music examples. Very detailed knowledge. I just listen from time to time. I don't even play the piano. I listen to hip hop and a bit of chinese music and a bit meditative music. I must say, classical music might be too hard (perhaps too emotional) for the serious zen meditator (interestingly, all of music and meditation is about the achieving of awareness.
said : "In front of a masterpiece , there are two attitudes : ultra-conservatism or adventure. To play according to the author's wish, or in the tradition of his students, what does it mean ? What is needed, it's to give free play to one's fancy, to re-create, to revive the work. This is how to render...".
Cortot himself stated that men of the 19th century did not feel the need for drama and power that modern audiences expect, and that the pianos of the time were not suited for expressing such emotive dynamics.
cortot was a modern pianist on a modern piano which interpreted chopin in a modern manner respecting the original creations.
I appreciate your commitment to the issue Smithy but surely its a bit subjective of you to dismiss a century of piano playing. With respect, if you put your remarks into a more balanced context I might take you more seriously.
he is my great, great, great, uncle. aren't i lucky?
lolololololcatss 7 months ago 2
is this a level 6 piece?
324kayla 8 months ago
holy crap i wanna hear him actually play this so badly! thanks for upload.
kobiianardo 1 year ago
This sounds too good for an acoustic recording - I think it's a modern recording of a Welte piano roll.
RollaArtis 1 year ago
No matter what people say...this recording is a treasure made by the earliest-born pianist to have his playing preserved in any format. June 23, 1824 – March 10, 1910
figensco 1 year ago
I read that we didn't have any pianists born before 1840 playing .now this totally clear but not well played treasure shows up. The training is infinitesimally better these days. The amazing thing is there are no Hofmann's . Funny Rach wasn't much impressed with Cortot .I can't believe we have several recs of this man! The Mozart i'm afraid to hear but one generation must hear this. What will Mozart sound like when there are no more plants &we live on machine made planets?
lovesGenet 1 year ago
one bar of this is worth an entire career of some modern pianists IMO
acortot 2 years ago 4
Carl Reinecke is a very underrated pianist and composer. Some of his compositions are very good and his piano roll recordings are pretty virtuosic.
morvensky 2 years ago 7
wonderful skill!
bentandarkmobile 3 years ago 3
I'm not upset... I get enjoyment out of being caustic, but it's nothing personal. My whole point was making fun of inexperienced listeners (well, at least one in particular) while at the same time writing like one.
faustianliszt 3 years ago
... and my comment right after that was "but it's definitely in E#" ... so again. fail
faustianliszt 3 years ago 3
I know. I was responding sarcastically and mockingly to the idiocy of the original comment from Wolvesblood97. You get an F for not realizing that.
faustianliszt 3 years ago
Nobilitiest play ever.
good
take3571 3 years ago
Did you know that The earliest born pianist ever to record on music roll was Carl Reinecke, who came into the world on 23 June 1824, three years before the death of Beethoven.
figensco 3 years ago 10
no,i didnt know,but very intersting.
Achtelnote 3 years ago
im looking for a fast piano song in the Key of E (or E# or flat) but it is very pretty . . . . i cant remember the name in the least D:
please help
Wolvesblood97 3 years ago
i think the song you're looking for is "sonata" i can't remember who wrote it though
faustianliszt 3 years ago
... but it's definitely in E#
faustianliszt 3 years ago
hahaha lol
twigyman 3 years ago
Great comment! :-)
xper2xper 2 years ago
WOW! I don't think i can play that good!
molie987 3 years ago
Keep in mind, he was in his 80s when this was made. He was much better in his earlier years. Check out his Piano Concerto #3 sometime, along with some other works: I think he's one of the greatest composers of all time.
IgnatzKolisch 3 years ago
the human perception of what?
tastes change with the times, as does language, as does philosophy, ideals, knowledge, religious beliefs etc..
who is more adept at playing classical music, an aristocratic European of the 18-19th century, a balinese peasant, or a shopping-centre-dwelling american which grew up watching TV?
what's the use of even studying the art of the past then? since we all have the same 'perception'?
acortot 3 years ago 2
only problem is that the people who went to the concerts in the 1800-1850 period were LIVING in the same period, and the music was then modern and understood..
'as they wished' was in the style of the times.. not in our current style.
WE, on the other hand live in the computer age.
acortot 3 years ago
Just as technically perfect as GLENN GOULD there I said it. Now I'm expecting a visit from Smith Sherman. Seriously though, Smith has good music examples. Very detailed knowledge. I just listen from time to time. I don't even play the piano. I listen to hip hop and a bit of chinese music and a bit meditative music. I must say, classical music might be too hard (perhaps too emotional) for the serious zen meditator (interestingly, all of music and meditation is about the achieving of awareness.
MaBu888 4 years ago
Is this a piano roll or reproducing roll?
JASenior44 4 years ago
Dear Smith, may I remind you what Cortot
said : "In front of a masterpiece , there are two attitudes : ultra-conservatism or adventure. To play according to the author's wish, or in the tradition of his students, what does it mean ? What is needed, it's to give free play to one's fancy, to re-create, to revive the work. This is how to render...".
rigel48 4 years ago 4
Cortot himself stated that men of the 19th century did not feel the need for drama and power that modern audiences expect, and that the pianos of the time were not suited for expressing such emotive dynamics.
cortot was a modern pianist on a modern piano which interpreted chopin in a modern manner respecting the original creations.
acortot 3 years ago
Don't have this record ;( but I'll try to find!
truecrypt 4 years ago
also dont forget this guy is playing a century after Beethoven, hardly a first-hand example of the playing style of the period
chrish12345 4 years ago
I appreciate your commitment to the issue Smithy but surely its a bit subjective of you to dismiss a century of piano playing. With respect, if you put your remarks into a more balanced context I might take you more seriously.
chrish12345 4 years ago
Very interesting! Thanks. :-)
Pladask 4 years ago