I don't hate Schrodinger's Cat because it's inaccurate. I don't care. It's a helpful illustrative device. What I hate is that most people have no idea what it means, but think they're smart for saying it.
It's not literally true. It's a thought experiment. It was supposed to stimulate thought, not be an actual experiment.
If you're knowledgeable on the subject, feel free to talk about whatever cat you damn well please. Just don't spout gibberish to make yourself sound smart.
Science and religion aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but science has no need for religion. It can explain everything religion can without religion.
I'm an atheist, but I don't think believing in God means you can't believe in science. I think religion is unnecessary. I don't think there is a God, and I don't see any need to believe in one.
If you believe in God, I can respect that. However, science is independent of religion. Religion needs science, not the other way around.
TL;DR: Religion is fine as long as it's about the spiritual, but as soon as it tries to trump science I'll be out there with a protest sign and megaphone.
@fukingreality Actually he's been very fortunate! Given he has ALS (an illness which is often fatal within 5- 10 years of diagnosis), he's been very lucky! He is now almost 70 and has lived with this progressive illness since he was about 20.
@JokeAt9 Theres a sensor on his glasses that kinda detects where he looks with his cheek muscles and he selects phrases either from scratch or common phrases from a list.
"I set the popular stereotype of a mad scientist or a disabled genius." there, he said it himself and made a lil joke about it too, and people get mad when I point out that he looks like a bond villain =)
@TheTravisChannel Seriously. I mean Barack Obama is the first President in recent history that I can envision finding this interesting (Obama is a total geek; what other President has been compared to Spock). But can't Clinton at least try to pretend he's interested?
Some people say the sky's the limit, no, god is the limit, if there is no god there is no limit, humans have unlimited potential and we all should embrace this fact. Now who's with me.
(God, Im so bored.... Oh yeah, this hawking guys doesnt beleive in God, lol. Man, I can barely keep my eyes open right now. Monica just kept demanding more and more crazy shit from me last night. 'say this to me'. 'ooooh so good, do it again'. 'stick THIS thing up my butt now.' I wonder if Stephen here ever had good romps in the sack-) *Schnicker* (Man that thought was so funny i almost cracked up on live TV. Ah, Who gives a shit? Noone watches C Span anyway. Wait, whats he sayin?)
both sides have their issues with logic. God who loves us should not allow evil, but the scientific explanation for everything is that it was spontaneous creation. in other words, it happened cause it just happened. how illogical does that get after all our search for laws and reason?
The same is assumed from the religious side as well, that everything came from nothing (well, from God, but then rules of causality set in and one has to ask where God came from, which ultimately is nothing).
In terms of logic, as you so quaintly said, neither side can address it at the core.
@AndrewDeLong I can address it. Something always existed and matter came to be from this existence. Could be sort of like god as a first cause or some kind of energy or whatever. No poof out of nothing or out of nothing required. The difficulty for me is how can something exist or change from something that always existed or never didn't exist.
Never didn't exist? Either you intended to use a double negative, or meant to say "never existed." I'll assume the latter, and answer as best I can.
Something can come from nothing, simply put, because it can. There need not be a reason or cause. If the laws of the universe didn't exist prior to it forming, then that also bodes true for the law of causality (that all things need a cause). Basically, if the universe didn't exist, then causality didn't either, & no laws are broken.
@AndrewDeLong No i meant double negative. Something cannot come from nothing. That's illogical. Causality isn't necessarily a scientific concept either. It is a metaphysical idea. Don't confuse all of non supernatural existence, the universe, with our universe that came into be. We could be a bubble that came from a foam. You can't say that just because time exists within our universe that our universe is independent of any other existence.
Well, as much as I like to engage in thought experiments like that, I simply, in all serious cases, must abide by the logic of this universe. That logic says that all observable laws ONLY came into effect when the universe began, and not before that point. Causality is one of these laws. If this is the case, then it, nor any other law, existed before the universe did, and thus it is allowable and reasonable to say that we can get something from nothing.
@AndrewDeLong Laws of logic apply nomatter what universe exists or doesn't exist. Second, we didn't observe or can scientifically talk about the universe actually coming into existence. We can talk about it's formation over time. Hume would strongly object to your claim about causality. How does observing things in relation to eachother scientifically show that causality occurs? You assume causality before you do science. Also our current universe state began to exist not existence itself.
@AndrewDeLong I might otherwise agree that your position is possible or could be true other than the fact that you word it in an illogical way. If what you mean by the universe came from nothing is that it is all that exists and is eternal with a finite past than fine. If your saying there was nothing and there was this universe springing into action then no. I talk about causality in the sense that if we have a multiverse there can't be independent universes that just are.
@RuinSonic Well, we could but that would severely violate occams razor. There must be a source to a bunch of universes. Maybe there isn't a bunch of universes but it seems strange that the only thing that exists is something that has constants that allow for any formations such as planets or life or whatever when it is tons more likely that it had not. Not to say the TOE is out of the question as a good explanation. But I don't want this issue to distract what we were talking about.
Well, in terms of a multiverse, one must ask what is the originator of that hierarchical structure. Ultimately, the conclusions (excluding a higher intelligence) are drawn to only two possibilities, that 1) The multiverse simply always existed, or 2) it all came from nothing. In either case, the law of causality is ignored or violated, as neither explains what caused the multiverse to occur in the first place. In light of that, I side with the "nothing" argument as the most logical
my thesis is this: instead of arguing about the existence of God,one should ask himself "what is the definition of God"?
91Tribual 1 week ago
I don't hate Schrodinger's Cat because it's inaccurate. I don't care. It's a helpful illustrative device. What I hate is that most people have no idea what it means, but think they're smart for saying it.
It's not literally true. It's a thought experiment. It was supposed to stimulate thought, not be an actual experiment.
If you're knowledgeable on the subject, feel free to talk about whatever cat you damn well please. Just don't spout gibberish to make yourself sound smart.
FuchsiaFF00FF 3 weeks ago
i actually feel so sorry for hawkings. i hope he's happy.
RaidenGear15 1 month ago
The 90s.
YawnGod 1 month ago
hes getting laid tonight
HappyHunter252 2 months ago
Science and god DOESN'T MIX!!!!!!!!
AndroidDeviceFan 2 months ago
@AndroidDeviceFan Albert Einstein the German man who made e-MC says "religion without science is blind science without religion is lame"
nursk11 1 month ago
@nursk11
Science and religion aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but science has no need for religion. It can explain everything religion can without religion.
I'm an atheist, but I don't think believing in God means you can't believe in science. I think religion is unnecessary. I don't think there is a God, and I don't see any need to believe in one.
If you believe in God, I can respect that. However, science is independent of religion. Religion needs science, not the other way around.
FuchsiaFF00FF 3 weeks ago
@nursk11
TL;DR: Religion is fine as long as it's about the spiritual, but as soon as it tries to trump science I'll be out there with a protest sign and megaphone.
FuchsiaFF00FF 3 weeks ago
Hey Hilary looks like a MILF there
imnotdiddy 2 months ago
thanks, can someon pls explain how he talks[ ? she hot
faridjabba 3 months ago
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There are 1000000000000000000 particles in the universe yo mama took the ugly ones and put them into one nerd
FingersUnited 3 months ago
hillary hasn't aged well at all.
vivek3000 4 months ago 2
is that Hillary??
zupels007 6 months ago
He has a google translator voice.
MasterTuxie 6 months ago
awesome human being.
andrehellm13 7 months ago
Damn those computers are so DARN old!
Ginandpop2 7 months ago
One question, how does he eat?
BoyznGirlz09 7 months ago
@BoyznGirlz09 probably the same way people in coma do
pokekiller5swords 5 months ago
@pokekiller5swords a coma not coma damnit typo
pokekiller5swords 5 months ago
poor man... so smart, and so unfortunate
fukingreality 8 months ago 4
@fukingreality Actually he's been very fortunate! Given he has ALS (an illness which is often fatal within 5- 10 years of diagnosis), he's been very lucky! He is now almost 70 and has lived with this progressive illness since he was about 20.
lennic95 7 months ago
He has the absolute best smile in the world.
chadheck96 8 months ago 3
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Kolyamatic 9 months ago
why do they ask so stupid questions?
TheAntiestablishment 10 months ago 3
how can he speak so fast with that computer?
JokeAt9 10 months ago
@JokeAt9 if you had a computer to you for the last 15 or so years, i think you would get use to it.
HiVxN3G4TiiV3 10 months ago
@JokeAt9 Theres a sensor on his glasses that kinda detects where he looks with his cheek muscles and he selects phrases either from scratch or common phrases from a list.
chadheck96 8 months ago
Is it me or does the first person speaking in this video actually sound like stephen hawkings computer voice???
No offence but americans sounds like robot computers.
Dannyd2134 1 year ago 4
@Dannyd2134 Totally agree! Sounds like Microsoft Sam
Dendiol 9 months ago
"I set the popular stereotype of a mad scientist or a disabled genius." there, he said it himself and made a lil joke about it too, and people get mad when I point out that he looks like a bond villain =)
MarkArandjus 1 year ago
lol it's funny to see how fascinated they are with the internet
iPojCoNr 1 year ago
Be ready Asian women online #lushfmlk.info#
brdbrch 1 year ago
Bill Clinton is so close to sleeping
micshaz 1 year ago
francis collins is an idiot
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
Clinton´s face looks like "I was elected to lead....not to read" hahahaha
Computerdisplay 1 year ago 45
Like Clinton is really interested in this
TheTravisChannel 1 year ago
@TheTravisChannel Seriously. I mean Barack Obama is the first President in recent history that I can envision finding this interesting (Obama is a total geek; what other President has been compared to Spock). But can't Clinton at least try to pretend he's interested?
aquagrl63 11 months ago
@8shotbarrel i skim through the vid and i know he cant talk i mean the lil machine he have im sorry i dont pay that much attention in science class
YoungJackassStar1 1 year ago
Some people say the sky's the limit, no, god is the limit, if there is no god there is no limit, humans have unlimited potential and we all should embrace this fact. Now who's with me.
DarknessKingCoH 1 year ago
i only watch this cause i wanted to hear him talk?!!
YoungJackassStar1 1 year ago 93
@YoungJackassStar1 then you wasted like 3 minutes of your life. and youre a fucking idiot, he CANT talk.
8shotbarrel 1 year ago
@YoungJackassStar1 OMG absolutely right oracle ..
0engima0 8 months ago
@YoungJackassStar1 Why the question mark?
ZachariasClub 6 months ago
@YoungJackassStar1 sounds like one of my electronic dictionaries.
p1t3n6 2 days ago
2:06
(God, Im so bored.... Oh yeah, this hawking guys doesnt beleive in God, lol. Man, I can barely keep my eyes open right now. Monica just kept demanding more and more crazy shit from me last night. 'say this to me'. 'ooooh so good, do it again'. 'stick THIS thing up my butt now.' I wonder if Stephen here ever had good romps in the sack-) *Schnicker* (Man that thought was so funny i almost cracked up on live TV. Ah, Who gives a shit? Noone watches C Span anyway. Wait, whats he sayin?)
worrowindXVI 1 year ago
@worrowindXVI Stephen has been married twice, so the answer probably is yeah
DoomNoMore 1 year ago
lol god wanted us to evolve into careless violent human beings that have no sense of self preservation, hence the violence?
yeah no im not buy that whole god wanted to us to evolve like this line..
nope.
StraightUppJeff 1 year ago
@StraightUppJeff
both sides have their issues with logic. God who loves us should not allow evil, but the scientific explanation for everything is that it was spontaneous creation. in other words, it happened cause it just happened. how illogical does that get after all our search for laws and reason?
worrowindXVI 1 year ago
@worrowindXVI
The same is assumed from the religious side as well, that everything came from nothing (well, from God, but then rules of causality set in and one has to ask where God came from, which ultimately is nothing).
In terms of logic, as you so quaintly said, neither side can address it at the core.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong I can address it. Something always existed and matter came to be from this existence. Could be sort of like god as a first cause or some kind of energy or whatever. No poof out of nothing or out of nothing required. The difficulty for me is how can something exist or change from something that always existed or never didn't exist.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
@RuinSonic
Never didn't exist? Either you intended to use a double negative, or meant to say "never existed." I'll assume the latter, and answer as best I can.
Something can come from nothing, simply put, because it can. There need not be a reason or cause. If the laws of the universe didn't exist prior to it forming, then that also bodes true for the law of causality (that all things need a cause). Basically, if the universe didn't exist, then causality didn't either, & no laws are broken.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong No i meant double negative. Something cannot come from nothing. That's illogical. Causality isn't necessarily a scientific concept either. It is a metaphysical idea. Don't confuse all of non supernatural existence, the universe, with our universe that came into be. We could be a bubble that came from a foam. You can't say that just because time exists within our universe that our universe is independent of any other existence.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
@RuinSonic
Well, as much as I like to engage in thought experiments like that, I simply, in all serious cases, must abide by the logic of this universe. That logic says that all observable laws ONLY came into effect when the universe began, and not before that point. Causality is one of these laws. If this is the case, then it, nor any other law, existed before the universe did, and thus it is allowable and reasonable to say that we can get something from nothing.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong Laws of logic apply nomatter what universe exists or doesn't exist. Second, we didn't observe or can scientifically talk about the universe actually coming into existence. We can talk about it's formation over time. Hume would strongly object to your claim about causality. How does observing things in relation to eachother scientifically show that causality occurs? You assume causality before you do science. Also our current universe state began to exist not existence itself.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong I might otherwise agree that your position is possible or could be true other than the fact that you word it in an illogical way. If what you mean by the universe came from nothing is that it is all that exists and is eternal with a finite past than fine. If your saying there was nothing and there was this universe springing into action then no. I talk about causality in the sense that if we have a multiverse there can't be independent universes that just are.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
@RuinSonic Well, we could but that would severely violate occams razor. There must be a source to a bunch of universes. Maybe there isn't a bunch of universes but it seems strange that the only thing that exists is something that has constants that allow for any formations such as planets or life or whatever when it is tons more likely that it had not. Not to say the TOE is out of the question as a good explanation. But I don't want this issue to distract what we were talking about.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
@RuinSonic
Well, in terms of a multiverse, one must ask what is the originator of that hierarchical structure. Ultimately, the conclusions (excluding a higher intelligence) are drawn to only two possibilities, that 1) The multiverse simply always existed, or 2) it all came from nothing. In either case, the law of causality is ignored or violated, as neither explains what caused the multiverse to occur in the first place. In light of that, I side with the "nothing" argument as the most logical
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong /watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
GOSUPitZ 1 year ago
2:11 he looks like an asshole to me for some reason.
xxxxfatcatxxxx 1 year ago
Who are these boring people talking about their God? I WANNA HEAR DR. HAWKING!
3:58 OMG! Awesomesauce! He's so smart! :D
velcroboy60000 1 year ago
can someone slap the first retard for me thx n hugs
suravthevoid 1 year ago
trollface.jpg
CoomShot 1 year ago
lol at the first guy...god wants a lot doesn't he? omg
lunaticz0r 1 year ago
utter BS
EnchancedHuman 1 year ago