3. Tainos in New York Part 3

[Ditotiago6]

They are not Tainos! Pure we do not have pure Tainos (unmixed) anymore. That being said alot of people in Puerto Rico,Dominican Republic and Cuba have taino blood. I love the fact that people are more aware of our roots but you can clearly tell that they also have African and European blood.

[TheTainoWarrior]

Not black and white whatever Puerto ricans that has Taino bloods due to the mtdna they r mixed with Taino but not pure ones, just mixed... u can't deny it or word extinction means there's none left in dna not even 1%, culture, food like casabi bread, n such but unfortunately Europeans fail to wipe em out by raped native women, Taino escaped into cave n such that made us mixed bloods n such like that.

[chikawak]

YES THATS RIGHT BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE!! MANY NATIVE NATIONS OF THE AMERICANS HAD PROFICIES ONE DAY THEY WILL BE BACK OR THAT OUR SUN WILL SHINE ON US ONCE AGAIN.THIS IS NOT JUST A COINCIDENCE MANY OF ARE PPL ARE TURNING TO THEIR NATIVE ROOTS! AND THERE IS NOT A GODDAMM THING WRONG WITH THAT!

[mofire9999]

professormiguelperez the so call taint people were kill off by the Europeans in the 1500's by man the Spaniards these people are living in their own world.puerto rican have a lot of Spaniard blood in them a few African blood but mostly Spanish blood and not all Spaniard s look white many of them look Arab in Spain and when it come to the Dominicans they put themselves in a category anything than black many Dominicans are self hated Negros.like i said tainos Indians died out in the 1500's thanks

[kingstaffy]

@mofire9999 lol im sorry did u live in the 1500s to confirm the fact that all taino indians died out? Did u witness it first hand?These guys r talking facts. there were dna and genetic studies done that show native dna in puerto ricans.A lot of puerto ricans are black as well btw.just look at puerto ricos boxers boxers for example.Ppl say argentina is like 100% white but look at their national hero,diego maradona.have u seen maradona's dad? he looks like a north american native indian chief

[mofire9999]

@kingstaffy u are certainly right about argentina and maradona.. alot of so called whites in argentina are really native/indians or just mestizos..well u are so wrong my friend about puerto rico, so so wrong.. well most puerto ricans are 70% to 80% white, these people look more like light skinned mulattos and some are just black in other cases, my mother is a white newer rican...and she is very WHITE... u FAIL tainos were killed out by europeans..in the 1500's open a real book dont be blind.

[kingstaffy]

@mofire9999 yeh i do agree puerto ricans and cubans are either white or black. In the caribbean, it seems the natives werent as succesful in surviving the conquest compared to in south america and central america. In my opinion, the only puerto ricans that have obvious native indian features is roselyn sanchez( she looks mestizo) and the guy who played the mexican guy (raul) in the movie dangerous minds who in terms of appearance, looks full native

[Amalfrida]

@mofire9999 Puerto Ricans arent either black or white, they can be black with white, black with taino, white with taino.

[bayamonkey]

NO ONE denies Taino 500 YEARS AGO!

But to say the majority of people in Puerto Rico are "taino" descendants is as STUPID as saying that all Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are "Mohawk" descendants because the original inhabitants of the area were.

The WHITE MAJORITY in PuertoRico are descendants of European immigrants that arrived in the mid-to-late 1800s NOT from the 1400s.

This is typical acomplejado Nuyorican prattle!

Que buscones son estos mentirosos.

Go back to the costume store you clowns!

[courpodorado1]

ehis guy doesnt look Taino at all, his face doesnt lie, he is Black

[SebastianQuinsella]

I have met these subway Tainos before and I asked myself why are there more "tainos" in the Bronx projects today than ever lived in the Caribbean.

Answer:

Tax-Free Reservations

Tax-Free Liquor

Tax-Free Cigarettes

Tax-Free Gasoline

Tax-Free Casinos

Que charlatanes y este "profesor" merece una paliza bien da'.

[SebastianQuinsella]

que verguenza de chuzma...parece mentira. tainos in the subway? what a joke

[aromadti]

Hey idiot just because maybe your predominant roots are white european or maybe african black doesn't mean you have the right to take away these peoples genetic background YOU STUPID IGNORANT FUCK! as far as I can see is that these people totally look taino, I see no black or white in them, are you blind? do you need glasses? let these people be and shut the fuck up!

[dsamaiable]

ur right black doesnt=African. til this day most white americans r closer to Africans than black americans.

[aromadti]

anyone who celebrates oct. 12, 1492 ia a trader, a sellout and a disrespectful son of a low life bitch, you wanna celebrate oct.12, 1492? then GO TO FUCKIN SPAIN AND DO IT! NOT HERE IN THE AMERICAS! THAT IS TOTAL DISRESPECT TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE IF YOU DO! natives are our people!

[aromadti]

October 12, 1492 = HOLOCAUST HOLIDAY

If people celebrate that, then they must be proud of BARBARIAN DESCENTS!

[aromadti]

I applaud these ricans for acknowledging the true roots of their land cause tainos are the original owners of these islands,not spaniards and not even blacks,for a long time the people of these islands always represented the caribe with african and spanish roots,these roots are not even original to these islands,the spaniards have mislead people writing and conspiring history to their convenience and denying and opressing the native roots of these islands cause they know they are the true owners

[SebastianQuinsella]

aromo,do you really think Spanish, Portuguese,English,French,Dutc­h had any reason to lie about the number of"natives" More likely the numbers were not accurate because these early European colonists had NO way of accurate population count.There was NO conspiracy.You have been listengi to too many Nuyorican idiots from the Bronx imagining their "real" roots even when they don't even know who their fathers are. And "rican" is not very respectful language for you to use when referring to us.

[aromadti]

If europeans had NO SCRUPLES whatsoever to set foot in foreign soil and STEAL it from it's ORIGINAL OWNERS, then I DONT doubt one bit that they conspired history of the americas for their own conflict of intrest, if they easily ROBBED they can easily LIE, and we all should know that convenience is OPPRESSION, CULTURAL ESLAVEMENT and IDENTITY THEFT, you are a great example of that IGNORANCE, you are still brain washed and under the corrupted spell of SPANISH COLONIALISM!

[SebastianQuinsella]

aromo, you say..."under the corrupted spell of Spanish colonialism"....hmmmmm....and what spell of fake polyester taino make-believe history are you in? Please take your hatred for whites to the indian reservation i am sure you don't live in. You fake, now go drive your japanese car to your chinese restaurant and then go to your white man created university. hypocrites like you infest the internet with stupid names like aromadti talking your ignorant shit...pathetic loser

[aromadti]

Your problem is that you hate TRUTH to be rubbed to your face, you act as if this FUCKIN CRIMINAL NAMED CHRISTOFER COLUMBUS was the one to begin history in the americas, this bastard didnt discover SHIT, the americas already existed and had a very rich empire and civilization, you are the one who's a FUCKIN RACIST imitating the oppression of the white thieves, all europeans did is bring their CRAP to this continent and the poverty that the americas has been enslaved by speaks for itself

[aromadti]

FYI, you idiot, japenese cars come from JAPAN, not europe duhhhhh, chinese is asia not europe, universities are worldwide and not just from europe, LOL, this is how stupid and manipulated you are by the euros, that you think they are gods are something, the only hypocrite and ignorant FUCK around her is you, only and idiot would use a name and last name for youtube, what a dumb fuck! LOL

[aromadti]

You are a poor excuse for being puerto rican, you have no pride and no shame or respect for the true essence of being boriqua by oppressing the NATIVE DNA of the the island, if your love for the spanish is that strong then go live over there, and see how they treat you, THE SPANIARDS DON'T LIKE LATINAMERICANS in case you didn't know, no matter how white you are, to them your just another SUDACA piece of shit, and that is a racial slur they use for latin americans, so stop being a sellout pendejo

[dsamaiable]

these ppl look Taino.

[aromadti]

And by the way, who are you to JUDGE what these peoples real roots are or not, why would they imagine that they are taino? really dude, are you delusional? tainos are the original owners of the carribeans hellooooooo!!! and if you dont know that, I believe that you are the one who doesnt know who the hell your true father is, and excuse me if "rican" is NOT a very respectful expression, I've never heard any puerto ricans that I've come acrosswith tell me that that expression is disrespectful

[SebastianQuinsella]

Hola "pure" Tainos of duh Bronx

I think all of you should have your OWN DNA tests done to PROVE you are real Tainos and that includes this clown Perez too. Then POST your Taino findings here. That will at least prove YOU are Tainos and not mulattos with straightened hair carrying Gucci bags and wearing Prada boots.

[bayamonkey]

"Dr." Perez should devote himself to selling Goya products &"Made-In-Korea" authentic Taino tail feathers at street fairs in Hoboken.THATwould be more honest than this crap endorsement of these charlatans.And AGAIN,there are certainly some people in PR, Cuba & DR & maybe even in Atlantis that are part Taino, but NOWHERE near the numbers that these idiots with their made in Peru handbags would want you to believe.I am Puerto Rican of European background &ONLY in the Bronx do see this nonsense.

[bayamonkey]

And re. the "study" that these idiots are citing...this "study" is the laughing stock of REAL scientists. The jerk who conducted the "study" went to a couple of mountain towns, found some "taino" women who WERE ALL REALATED and then using this TINY sample decided that most PRs are Tainos. This IS NOT RESEARCH! This is junk history with Taino lipstick on it. Only intellectual frauds would buy into this Nyorican Taino fiction. Very sad, indeed. Others have cited this fraud here as well.

[bayamonkey]

I still want to know about "Taino Subways"

[papote1207]

i think the messege here is a natural reaction to the historical lies we are being fed. which by way of being "cryptic" have seduced us apart spiritually. the seducers identity is "crypto" can you name this devil? he has amalgamated himself replacing our culture with a god he himself doesnt believe in. in order to escape his inquisitors and redirect their anger to us!! and in their anger attempted to erase us from our own consiousness. i am taino, boriqua! and im learning!!!

[bayamonkey]

you are also a pendejo

[DacaTainoKiskeya]

DNA has already confirmed taino deccendants. Not every one is a deccendant. In puerto rico is 61%, in cuba 33% (in the mountain areas) in dominican rep 15% (especialy in the cibao region where dna strands confirm we were unmixed till recently) How can anyone argue with dna ..

Taino de kiskeya.

[SebastianQuinsella]

taino, how can anyone argue with stupidity is the better question

[portacoelhi]

"800 samples?" "500 samples?" Another perfect example of fake history based on hearsay, hunches & hair-do's. Just pathetic! And these samples speak for FOUR MILLION people on the Island & MANY more OFF the Island? What geometric progression and scientific model told them this? These fools need to go home to continue sewing glitter sequins on their "authentic" Taino headdress. Que bochorno! Gente sin verguenza ni integridad. Funny how they are in the Bronx,the ancestral home of fake Tainos!

[dnr71345]

Why are you so threatened and so negative. I am no fool just a lover of my culture and identity. In addition, I would never attack another person's identity. What is the use? Que bochorno! Gente sin verguenza ni integridad will attack others like you are doing here. Relax and enjoy the ride!

[portacoelhi]

Dios Mio,mas mierda de Tainos postizo.

Listen,I can braid my horse's tail & that doesn't make him Taino. ThePR Day parade is theFULL picture of Fake Tainos wearing polyester FAKE suede loincloths;FAKE because there were NO animals in theCaribbean that suede loin cloths could have been made of w/peacock feathers sticking out of their ass. 1 problem! There were NO peacocks in the Caribbean. History is made by the conquerors? THANK GOD! Look at the junk history you're peddling.Shame on "Dr"Perez.

[portacoelhi]

I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician & Basque) & I know about Tainos in the Caribbean.I do not argue that there are SOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent. But,to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All the Mormons in Utah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? Get real!

[ese151]

Roman Perez is taino from dominican republic.. & the others??

[DominicanMestizo]

I have met all these folks. Jorge Estevez, Roman Perez and Irka are tainos from kiskeya aka dominican rep. Louis Ramos is a taino from Boriken aka Puerto rico.

Jorge is a good friend who I know for many months now. Very knowlegable man and a proud taino. Roman perez I seen about 3 times and have emailed him. Irka and louis I only met once on separate ocassion.

Ese I see you live in Netherlands. I know there are many dominican there. Are you from there too?

[ese151]

yeah im from holland but, im 100% dominican ;)

& you??

[DominicanMestizo]

That great. I was born in NYC but I am 100% via both my parents are from kiskeya. Hey do you know if your taino too? I know it sound silly but many tainos some times dont even know they are. Sad

[ese151]

i asked my uncel he said that, but if its true...

[bayamonkey]

DominicanMextico,they will "know" after they swallow this paquete and then they can go fishing in the Hudson River to discover their "roots" too.

[Breal191]

Jorge takes himself way too serious. He was actually upset that the TV host had to take a break. Gees. Take it easy holmes!

[DominicanMestizo]

Jorge is a great man. I personaly met all the tainos in this clip. But I know jorge longer and had many coversation with him. He is a great man. The host is an idiot. Check out the other clips that he has. You can find it in th professor page under "America's Hidden Hispanic Heritage" It is compleatly base on a euro-centric view.

[minutemenAREcowards]

AWESOME my TAINO BROTHERS!!!!!!!