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  • I know this is an old vid but love your fishing comments. Why does everybody think they're gonna go fishing when lost in the woods for a night - the most common survival situation on the planet. Leave the fish hooks at Home!!! PLEASE Help Me Spread The Message... NO FISH HOOKS! The life you save may be your own... learn to make a fish trap. Okay, I've done my part. Good luck! Bic Rules!

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    I always carry a bic lighter in my pocket.

    And would be the easiest method. But I also carry a flint striker and matches. Only having one way to start a fire is NOT smart.

  • @PACER2320 I never only have one method. EDC, redundancy, '...one is none', etc

  • 4:56  THATS WHAT SHE SAID =P hehe

  • the shances that your lighter will crap out on you  in that type of situation is exestent and conciveable when in my opinionthe fire steal is every ones best bet

  • you died of hyperthermia bud took to long with cold hands and wet no chance its good night nurse sorry.

  • "Worst Case Scenario" is EXACTLY why you NEED a flint instead of a lighter...use the space for something else...soak the tinderwick w/ Vaseline or carry chapstick...tada!!...waterproo­f!!

  • Great job! But with all respect I can't agree based on my experience just couple of weeks ago.

    While camping with my friends after heavy rain with moist air and wet hands I tried to light up a similar flint lighter. It didn't work.

    So I assume that this works at hope but not out in the woods with wet cloths, moist air and wet hands or it could take much longer.

    But thanks for this anyway, still great job!

  • Note: Only Use BIC! Some cheapo lighters will lose gas and/or have a striking problems. --- Especially if your lighter is tucked away in a bug out bag or glove compartment for 8 years. Water proof matches and mag/steel strikers have an unlimited shelf life. Keep that in mind when packing your emergency supplies.

  • I have had those mini bics in my pants pocket when they were in the washing machine and it still lit first time when I dried it off. They are so small they really should be part of any kit.

  • I agree, firemaking shouldn't be slow and difficult in a survival situation. But I dont have a lighter in my kit because the gas stops vaporizing when its really cold(like in the north of Norway).

    I have storm matches and a flint/magnesium firestarter

  • worse case scenario. try doing all that with hands that are wet, cold, slow and clumsy. hence why water proof matches are worth their weight in gold. and you can use your teeth to strike the match!

    as a minium take a tin with a few options of fire.

  • A very good idea

  • survival kit, huh? so it makes fire, can keep you warm, and purify water. but in a last chance ditch situation or by some other fault. you'd be without a way to hold water. lets see you carry a daily ration of water in/with your BIC. aint happening. try cutting down a tree with it, or go hunting with it. I dont think thats what they meant when they say " ready, aim, FIRE" big difference.

  • I guess I sometimes have a cryptic way of making

    my points.

    I have a lot of primitive survival skills myself,

    but people who just watch TV and think they can do it...

    well, I worry for their safety.

    Fire=Life, and to the 95% out their, a bic is what you need

    for instant fire, not a hand-drill.

  • just carry a BIC lighter in your pocket, will it hurt?

    you'll be grateful to have a small BIC lighter in your pocket when you lost that survival kit, knife... you were carrying.

  • nice....

  • I agree with the lighter, everyone should keep a lighter.. even real survival experts have hard time lighting fires in the jungle or whatever and they rely on lighters rather than flint or magnesium. The jungles is just to damp and same in winter conditions its harder than you think.. but lighter good item for a survival kit.

  • i like the lighter idea but i think a strike rod / forrero rod would do better because its water proof, & doesnt runout of sparks :P but yeah the lighter is ok i guess :o

  • Nice Video, I like your thinking, but Lighters work on the principle of SODs Law, they always Fcuk up when you need them the most. Especially the really cheap ones and even the expensive ones. i know, i used to smoke. ITs always better to take more than one method of lighting a fire.

  • if i could chhose one item yo have with me it would be either a canteen or a lighter

  • Im planning on going off on a long journey and this video ( and your others) helped a lot thanks.

  • its not a survival KIT, its a survival ITEM

  • a lighter y use that use a flint

  • Many times I've washed my Bic lighter in a clothes washer, by mistake, and I never had much trouble lighting it afterward, but I'd still rather have a magnesium striker and a decent knife. Try building a shelter, making cordage, killing game, making a fire bow, or collecting supplies & fire wood with a Bic lighter! All that stuff's a wee bit easier to do with a trusty knife.

  • Those ferrocium sticks are better than a lighter. They last forever and don't run out of fuel. It's not like flint/steel. Those sticks produce fire fast.

  • Is that the same as a magnessium stick?

  • Yea, its just a different name for the same thing. Some people say magnesium or fire stick.

  • There is no such thing as unfair in a survival scenario. Always "cheat", Always live. p.s. leave the big freakin bears alone.

    Without SERIOUS bang on our side we are lower on the food chain... lol

  • These are the top 5 items for long term survival:

    Survival blanket

    US Army survival manual

    Knife

    Flint/Magensium Striker

    Metal Pot

  • i dont like taking lighters beacuse lighters can become deadly if cracked. if something gets sprayed with butane after a lighter racks it is highly flammable, and im not diggin' that. cool vid tho

  • you guys keep saying, "be smart be smart." how about a knife and a lighter. that seems pretty smart.

  • A valid point for sure :)

    The context of what everyone is saying is, "if I only brought one thing"

  • please be smart

    really

    the only survival tool that you will need besides your head is a knife if you really want to survive all you need is those two things

  • I am smart, and experienced.

    My experience tells me it takes more energy to start a fire with nothing (if you are even successful given your environment), than it is to make a makeshift knife out of a rock.

    You can harden a wooden spear tip (digging stick) in a fire as well.

  • Wouldn't the dude who came up with a 2 in 1 Knife Lighter become rich? I'd add that to my kit.

  • Actually, they do have those!

  • @survivethewild Gotta agree with SurviveTheWild! Tool Logic survival Card has a knife, firestarter, flashlight or compass/magnifying glass and a bunch of other goodies in a card that can fit in your wallet or small pocket!

  • Excellent point. I'd definitely add one or two of those things to my kit, too.

  • he means by saying that he cant you are saying you cant :)

  • You don't know me, so don't place the doubts u have about yourself on me please.

  • wouldnt u rather keep a knife if nothing else? with a knife u can make a bow drill or hand drill. Also u can make a trap that consists of just sticks. before i thought a lighter would be the item but now that i know more im pretty sure if ur good at the bow drill or hand drill methods a knife would be a better choice.

  • how do u boil the water if all u have is a lighter? what do u boil the water in?

  • im guessing you make a fire.. then find what little water you can and put it inside the bic lighter? lmao

  • Good question! You need to use the 'hot rocks' method.

    Dig a hole in the dirt and line it with many layers of big leaves. Wet each layer. You could also use birch bark to make a container.

    There are many ways to make containers. Anyways, then throw in the hot rocks until you get a boil :)

  • thanks

  • how would you boil water in a birch bark container idiot.

  • I believe I explained, and u will be blocked for your ignorance.

  • im thinkin your an idiot you probably couldnt survive if your electricity went out for a week. your question would'nt be a bad one for someone who is just ignorant do survival techniques but you had to try to insult the man by calling him an idiot and you dont even realize your the jack ass here

  • I keep a bic with me as well, however I always keep my swedish firesteel with me too for waterproof fire starting.

  • Very well put. However, some sort of a knife would be number 1 to me. You can make fire, in the wild with nothing, but a sturdy well made knife is not something you can make out of rocks. Like you said though, worst case is no time to display skill making fire.

  • I love how you never cheat. My training classes typically have instructors saying, "Well, normally what happens..." so you never are sure if it's true or not.

  • Would only be cheating myself, and you guys.

    I wouldn't have it! :)

  • i just got a blast match from ebay, and it works like a charm even after being wet...just FYI

    good vid btw, keep it up

  • gist breng a magneseum stick and a knife.

    i take one evrey ware.

  • dude i cood hav had fire mutch faster than that.

  • what do you mean?

  • ur a cutie :)

  • The problem with any lighter (flint style bic, piezo electric type or Zippo etc) is they all run the risk of mechanical failure or fuel leakage.  I always have a little Bic in my kit as they are very light and handy, but you can't beat a firesteel or magnesium block for guaranteed dependability imo. Plus plenty of practice of course.

  • That's about how I feel.

    Too light to not carry,

    and I have plenty of other ways to start fire too.

    People who aren't used to flint/steel and finding/making proper tinder, should have a lighter.

  • Lighters dissipate and drie off, at least if you are in the Southwest. I tried it, and now I use matches in a waterproof container like a film case.

  • Really, even if in an altoids tin in your bags?

    I never had that problem, but maybe in the dry summer heat where you are.

    The plus side is where you are there is yucca and sotol right?

    Good fire materials.

  • Magnesium fire starter better than flint, the shavings will light when wet. Ive had a lot of problems with butane lighters in the winter. Now I just carry a zippo and I have not had a problem with it.

  • this is the best

  • this is the worst

  • Could you be more specific?

  • Something that came to me the other day...

    I added to my survival kit a checklist of things to get accomplished in a survival situation, starting with shelter, fire, and water...it would help keep your head clear and your priorities straight. Whaddya guys think?

  • YES! And you would only come to that conclusion having already been humbled into a realist by nature. Good for you.

  • Yes, even Les Stroud says that you need to keep busy and keep your thoughts active when in the bush because it keeps you moving forward towards successfully walking out, and offers potential opportunities which may produce a better chance of survival... provided you are always careful and make wise decisions - you are not trying to prove you are rough and tough. :o)

  • you could pass out blowing on that lighter so much.. lol

  • i always carry a pellet gun for when the situation getts stick and u encounter a bear or small animals to eat

  • you show me a man armed with a pellet gun standing up to a bear, and I'll show you a bear with a full stomach.

  • I got a laugh outta that one, LOL.

    Ya, I'd take a loud voice and long, speared walking stick, (with KaBar to back me up on the ground) before even a 22 caliber against a bear.

    I have a sling shot for small game.

    It's true BMegalo, even 9mm don't slow bears down sometimes. If I had a 9mm, I'd try to stay calm (whilst peeing myself :) ) and try to shoot him in the face until he pulled and gave me a neck shot.

    Their bodies are too strong to penetrate.

  • Thanx 4 info makes my fishin pack lighter :)

  • If I were limited to one thing then a good knife would come first but a lighter would be right up there next to it as the next thing I like to have, I have lots of lighters bought from the dollar store and carry one in most of my bags.

  • I agree, work smarter not harder! I keep a mini bic in my kit too. Although, it could leak fuel if not packed properly, corrode, or break as it has moving parts. Wise to carry several firemaking options when possible (ie. freznel lens, Flint block, Firesteel, etc...) Experience with primitive methods is bonus.

  • Or you could just use an electronic lighter...

  • Hmmm...I'll have to throw one in water and find out. I know they make some with led lights in them too.

    That would be cool.

  • The LED light type are the ones I use in my packs. Never chucked it in water though! They are certainly damp resistant. The lights are only up to a little reading.

  • Thanks. Good input!

  • What happens when your lighter runs out of fuel?

  • I make fire by hand-drill.

    Again, I'm talking about "mini-survival kits for the masses" here.

  • i would suggest a decent knife

  • good points. Yeah you COULD get a fire going with only a knife and you COULD get a fire going with a magnesium bar, with good tinder, but when you are cold, wet, shaking and your ability to start a fire will determine whether you live or die, a $.50 lighter is irreplaceble.

    Ever use your magnesium bar and watch your 20 minutes of shavings flare up with no fire? Happens more often then not.

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  • thanks for your comment.

    Exactly...I have actively been learning how to start fires in many ways. I carry magnesium and flint. I also carry alcohol, trioxane, and esbit.

    Fire by hand-drill is fun and is extremely good to know, cause it is self-reliance.

    But I also carry lighters at all times...in different places.

    Preparedness is key!

  • survivethewild: It makes sense. Fire is the basic. A knife and other items on the second place. It really make sense, man. I think about it. Thanks for a good vid and practical idea.

  • With a magnesium and ferro rod keychain I could have simplly wiped it off if it was wet scrape some filings gather needed fuel and syarted a fire just in the time it took you to get the lighter lit after submerging it. I get your point but I have three ways to start fire in my mini survival kit as well as a knife and a tie on trade point arrow head. A knife and cordage and a fore starter of some kind the three most important items. But not a bad vid.

  • Believe you me, I got some great gear too.

    But again, for the masses and just pure emergency, I think a lighter should be right next to my other stuff.

    The only reason not to have one is "survival training". Learning to cope without such things...which I do all the time.

    Thanks for the comment.

  • Yes you can. Have you ever tried to walk into the woods with just a knife, make fire, and stay the night? You need the right spark and tinder.

    I will be doing videos demonstrating this soon.

    The lighter is from the stand point of a mini survival kit for the masses.

    Personnally, I want to know how to start fire every way humanly possible!

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