Adam Simpson, [Larrikin Lawyers] is a smarmy faced prick and should hang his head in shame for getting involved in this case! I could punch his face in, CUNT!!
Colin Gay you're going to jail now with Strykert!!!!!! So is Clown Ham!!!!! Cheaters!!!!! Our song Now & Forever should have been the number one song in 1981 and not this stolen song!!!!! Justice for Larrikin and Air Supply's song!!!!!!!
so if you really stretch your imagination you can hear similarities for all of 3 seconds and the company wants 60% or song royalties...what greedy scumbags.
As someone pointed out here on youtube they knew exactly what they were doing as the flute is carrying the tune and where is the flute player?...sitting in the tree same as the kookaburra...coincidence or taking the mick?
I'm not australian but i love the song by men at work.
isn't Kookaburra a nursery rhyme? arent happy birthday or twinkle twinkle little stars nursery rhymes? so by that logic the entire world is guilty for copyright infringement?
@loknich Sadly Happy Birthday is also copyrighted. That why restaurants make up their own birthday songs for their customers, or else they'd owe Warner about $20,000 every time they sing it. This is the problem with copyright law.
Thats it! I am setting fire to the old gum tree and shooting the kookaburra with my rifle if it tries to fly away. Men At Work just got a serious hosing right here folks!
greedy fucking slimey bastards, id love to knock the hit shit out of Larrikin. I never put on me mix 80s tape to hear a fucking old tune named kookaburra, i put on Men at Work. " i gave him a bit of my sandwich and Larrikin smiled and fucking took it ALL.
The largest royalty payment -- nearly $230,000 --- in the settlement will go to the estate of Tommy Edwards, who recorded the hit single "It's All In The Game" for what was then MGM Records. MGM Records catalog is now owned by Universal Music.
Other recipients include jazz saxophonist Gerry Mulligan, who is owed $78,000 and the Fontaine Sisters, who are owed nearly $107,000. Morning TV show host Regis Philbin, who recorded an album in 1968, is owed $7,255.
In the event that the royalties are not claimed, the money will be turned over to the state, which will hold them until the claims are made. But Spitzer said he hoped that all of the royalties would be claimed.
Donnelly said he originally considered filing class action suits against the labels. "But what we discovered is that every time we found a good plaintiff, the record companies would offer to pay them."
Spitzer said the interest on the royalties would be included in the payouts to the artists.
The record companies agreed to establish Web sites that include lists of artists and writers that are owed payments. They also agreed to take out advertisements in industry publications and pledged to share artists' contact information with one another.
"I think there was a lot more money than was disbursed today," said Donnelly, who has represented such artists as jazz giant Ornette Coleman and funk pioneer Bootsy Collins in such royalty disputes. "They've been making interest on this money for a long time."
Spitzer said the interest on the royalties would be included in the payouts to the artists.
The record companies agreed to establish Web sites that include lists of artists and writers that are owed payments.
Spitzer noted that the labels -- Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, Sony Corp.'s Sony Music, EMI Group Plc Bertelsmann AG's BMG Group and closely held Warner Music Group cooperated after his office approached them.
"They did the right thing," he said.
Music industry attorney Bob Donnelly, whom Spitzer credited with bringing the issue to his attention, was more critical of the labels.
"When artists cannot be located because, for example, they or their estates have moved without providing contact information, the royalties are held by the company for the artist to claim them," said Steven Marks, general counsel for the industry's trade group Recording Industry Association of America.
While some popular artists such as David Bowie, Sean "P Diddy" Combs and Dolly Parton will benefit, the majority of the artists are not stars, but rather more obscure performers and one-hit wonders, Spitzer said.
"We have this misperception that artists have all gained enormous wealth by virtue of their success," he said at a press conference. "But there are many artists who struggle, who have one successful song and they depend on those royalties.......
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's largest record labels will return $50 million in unpaid royalties to thousands of artists following a two-year probe by the New York State Attorney General's Office, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said Tuesday.......
EMI IS A CRIMINAL OPERATION AND A DISGRACE TO THOSE WHO CREATE ORIGINAL MUSIC COMPOSITIONS! WHO CARES THAT THEY'RE A SUPER POWER IN THE MUSIC PUBLISHING BUSINESS? CRIME IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today a judge has ordered Men at work must pay 5% of money earned from the song since 2002 as well as future royalties.
Larrikin Music, which owns the copyright to Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree, had sought 60% of royalties.
Obviously it could've been worse for Men at Work, but I still feel a sense of injustice for them. Larrikin Music are just bloodsuckers, Dire Straits once sang about "Money for Nothing (and your cheques for free)", that's what Larrikin are getting.
i dont hear it myself how they r Similar lol...i go to gudies and we still sing kooaburra haha and i love world down under no one acc cares that it "stole" some of the lines from kooaburra the band got ripped off like
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
the judge was quite obviously not a musician and tone deaf....otherwise he would have realized that the riff in men at work is in an entirely different key
Substantial? Judges are supposed to be clever people. How in hell did this guy get to be a Judge? There are other songs that have parts that sound like the kookaburra song. This judgement was a joke. I haven't met anyone who supports it.
It's only a sequence of 11 notes that's same. If you take the 11 notes, divided by the total number of notes in that song, or the duration occupied by the 11 notes over the duration of the entire song, you don't get 60%.
The only thing this verdict proves is that judge Peter Jacobson is an effing retard.
You said it right, buddy! I'm with Team Men At Work! If I meet Colin, I'll tell him this. You and your bandmates are five sweet Australians with the power and the courage to tell all that "Down Under" was and still is an original tune! I'm right beside you all the way, Mate.
1. There are only a certain number of notes on a flute and in the western scale, therefore it's extremely likely that it was done unknowingly
2. I would think that 30 years of being unrecognised would constitute that the infringement is not of a recognisable portion
3 If you break any song up enough you end up with two note intervals which are used literally every other western song. Even scaling this back, and introducing rhythm, surely there would still equate to thousands of potential cases?
You can't hear it? It's utterly obvious, but the REASON it was not noticed for 30 years is that it was unintentional, subconcious, innocuous. Influenced. Iv anyone wants to sue, it should be Paul McCartney suing The Jam for their sonfg START which is IDENTICAL to Taxman. (see my videos)
If youwere to ask 12 people at random(same number as a jury if they could distinguish between the two;my bet is they would not find in favour of Larrikin.Larrikin just tried it on and got lucky.
What a joke. If it blatantly copied Marion Sinclair's work she would have said something about it herself. Even if it was simmilar she was probably a kind hearted soul who would have been flattered to have influenced this huge hit, with no thought of financial gain for herself. This in contrast to the smug Lawyer in this clip.
I hope the attorneys for Men at Work are smart enough to insist the laws used are those from 27 years ago. That's when the infringement was started, those are the laws that are supposed to be used. At least that's how it works in many court systems for many types of crimes discovered from the past. Thats what was done for rap artists who started sampling previous hit records before they changed the law.
That's the shittiest part, the chorus is what makes the song. are vegemite going to sue for using the word vegemite, judge, gay your life must be, sue me.
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Maybe someone should check the judges bank account to see if there was a sizeable deposit made recently. Or maybe he just didn't like the song or the band.
Either way, I hope they can appeal the judgement in that country.
I have no doubt that Men and Work ripped part of the Kook song for Down Under. However, I don't think it is right that Men and Work has to pay 40 to 60 percent of their royalties. The tune was just a small part of overall song and writing.
Copy right laws are NOT bullshit. If you're an artist of ANY SORT you would feel very different. I know of a person who saw one of his art works on a mass produced T shirt of which he got no money for. Imagine if it was your story, illustration, game or music and someone bigger than you with more lawyers took your shit and made millions...Oh now its different right?
You sound like you're arguing against yourself. Copyright laws are BS because big companies and people who have a L OTof money are usually the only ones able to enforce and exploit the copyrights.
Most individuals can not do very much to enforce their "intellectual property". Additionally, so many copyrights lawsuits like this are just ridiculous, especially on movies and music.
Oh, and the copyright term is ridiculously too long.
@thejetshowlive, it depends on how much of a wanker you are...
I made a song years ago when I was in a band and this guy who used to jam with us joined a new band, then he started playing my song live at venues... I think it's awesome, a song I made was liked by someone and now is being played on a stage! It makes me feel good.
If your life is all about money, that's your problem...
@83uoykcuf - Wanker? Whats with the name calling? Sure music is a "hobby"…that is always said by anyone not making money at it. But watch what happens to all your happiness if that other band takes a portion of your song and makes huge money from it and goes #1. I'm sure you will "feel so good" when they reap all the benefits from your brain child. My life isnt all about money but there is sense of Right and Wrong. Walk a mile in a successful artists shoes and then see how you feel.
@thejetshowlive I'm pretty sure the lady who wrote the Kookaburra song was never bothered by it. Now that she's dead it's just a bunch of suits running around trying to grab money... Every job has it's ups and downs, and the downs of being a musician is that it's not a real job. I'm in a band but there's no way I'd expect to make a living out of it... I'd rather have a more steady job where I'm guaranteed a certain income. It's just the way life is. Want guaranteed money? Get a job, sorry.
Thats why the law is in place. Having said that I think that this is WAY EXCESSIVE and doesnt warrant MILLIONS of Dollars...not on a song that got heavy air play and was #1 THIRTY YRS AGO! So NOW you want MILLIONS? Like I said its very vauge...its not like when Vanilla Ice stole the bass like from Bowie/Mercury's Under Pressure. That was BLATANT!
Businesses like Disney have warped copyright law to serve their own interests. Disney has no problem using other people's stories to make movies but god forbid you draw a picture of a 100 year old rat without their permission.
Life +70 years? Not likely. They'll just extend copyright law again.
So any asshole can go out, buy the copyright to an old song, listen for something similar in a recent or current song and then sue the shit out of some random musician.
How many songs out there "borrow" a bit of this or that culturally-significant music? Men at Work probably grew up hearing that little ditty, and naturally, unconsciously incorporated a snatch of it in this iconic song about Australia. That's no more a deliberate infringement than if they had used a lick from "Waltzing Matilda."
Ts-hh. They can go get fucked. Composers used to borrow all the time from others, there wasn't any 'copy-fucking-right' back then. It was a sign of prestige.
I don't see how playing a flute line is plagiarism. So they have to fork over 60% of their royalties for a few seconds of a song? What BS. Colin is right. It's all about money to this dirtbag. And it only took them 30 years to come to this conclusion. I'd hunt that guy down and split his wig.
yes it does sound 'like' it but at the same time it is about 10 notes (if that) in about a 30-40 second instrumental.... they are being picky and money hungry to be honest... especially since they bought the copy right for the kookaburra song and only now are suing because of a tv show they saw in 2007
So let me get this straight, Australlia is screwing the band that that made the world fantasize about and want to visit the land down under??? I think every australlian book author should start sueing every other book author who has any single sentance that is the same as in their book. That's how retarded this is!! Blood sucking bastards! Boycotting "Music Sales" for life!
this just shows how petty people are, that after all these years it took them this long to do something about it, all for money greedy bastards!
willowbel 1 week ago
Since when did Megyn Kelly have an Australian accent?
kaylasdaddy55 1 month ago
@stevespielberg I believe you. I think so too.
s0n152 3 months ago
Spicks and specks DARN you go back to playschool dude so men at work could live but they split up :( :( :(
metal66683 6 months ago
there are millions of songs that sound alike, if you go to that amount of stretch when comparing song parts.
fuck this shit.
WilliamAztech 6 months ago
Adam Simpson, [Larrikin Lawyers] is a smarmy faced prick and should hang his head in shame for getting involved in this case! I could punch his face in, CUNT!!
BigCrookster 7 months ago
airsupplyband is sooooooooooo wrong.
MortOscarstein 9 months ago
larriken only got 5%. they should ahve got nothing. i dont hear any kukaberra in down under.
MortOscarstein 9 months ago
Colin Gay you're going to jail now with Strykert!!!!!! So is Clown Ham!!!!! Cheaters!!!!! Our song Now & Forever should have been the number one song in 1981 and not this stolen song!!!!! Justice for Larrikin and Air Supply's song!!!!!!!
Airsupplyband 10 months ago
Travesties of justice such as these are fine examples for the NEED of TORT REFORM a.s.a.p.
GrymWraith 11 months ago
Warren Fahey is a LOSER. Here's some lyrics for his stupid little tune
.....Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree, line him up with a 303, laugh Kookaburra, laugh Kookaburra...BANG!
Hope you get what you deserve Fahey.
Larrikin music is a DISGRACE for doing this.
VonTripps 11 months ago 2
this is bullshit
fkngtwat 11 months ago
so if you really stretch your imagination you can hear similarities for all of 3 seconds and the company wants 60% or song royalties...what greedy scumbags.
rjrichme 11 months ago 4
The makers of Vegemite are in line for their share
JesusSatanAllah 11 months ago 2
better start suing artists for using the same pallete, and suing everyone who writes for using the same alphabet??..
wunnamurra 1 year ago
money, money, money
wunnamurra 1 year ago
At this point I would like to thank the lawyers for their contribution to society....
Morhasone 1 year ago
As someone pointed out here on youtube they knew exactly what they were doing as the flute is carrying the tune and where is the flute player?...sitting in the tree same as the kookaburra...coincidence or taking the mick?
WELLBRAN 1 year ago
Sounds like the Aussie's lawyers are just as money-grubbing greedy as the bastards here in American.
ExTexan68 1 year ago
this is the biggest joke in Australian music history. Nobody is ever going to release a record in Australia again.
keyanage 1 year ago
Lawyers....If I was a lawyer and someone said 'what do you do'? I would say that I was a Pedophile to avoid the embarrassment...
Breatherable 1 year ago
What is the next move sued BARNEY because he also sings the Koobaburra!
this is ridiculous!!
MarielaSimons 1 year ago
What is the next move sued BARNEY because he also sings the Koobaburra!
MarielaSimons 1 year ago
Completely different melodies imo.
arnaldo35 1 year ago
I'm not australian but i love the song by men at work.
isn't Kookaburra a nursery rhyme? arent happy birthday or twinkle twinkle little stars nursery rhymes? so by that logic the entire world is guilty for copyright infringement?
loknich 1 year ago 4
@loknich
How would the entire world be guilty of copyright infringement? You're an idiot.
JoanIsNotTheMaid 1 year ago
@loknich Sadly Happy Birthday is also copyrighted. That why restaurants make up their own birthday songs for their customers, or else they'd owe Warner about $20,000 every time they sing it. This is the problem with copyright law.
PowerViolenceDave 1 month ago
aaaaa now i understand, The woman who wrote the song died then the copyrights where sold a lawyer firm, and now they want tons and tons of money.
WimanX 1 year ago
Thats it! I am setting fire to the old gum tree and shooting the kookaburra with my rifle if it tries to fly away. Men At Work just got a serious hosing right here folks!
directconnection1969 1 year ago
Kookaburra sits on a gold nest egg
fuhrman66 1 year ago 2
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did they hear of something called 'inspiration'? .. greedy bastards like the fagots at Larrikin should try it sometime.
ThemTheyHeShe 1 year ago
greedy fucking slimey bastards, id love to knock the hit shit out of Larrikin. I never put on me mix 80s tape to hear a fucking old tune named kookaburra, i put on Men at Work. " i gave him a bit of my sandwich and Larrikin smiled and fucking took it ALL.
phastasm 1 year ago 2
0.45 secs = do we really need these people on our planet ?
captaincrumble 1 year ago 4
The largest royalty payment -- nearly $230,000 --- in the settlement will go to the estate of Tommy Edwards, who recorded the hit single "It's All In The Game" for what was then MGM Records. MGM Records catalog is now owned by Universal Music.
Other recipients include jazz saxophonist Gerry Mulligan, who is owed $78,000 and the Fontaine Sisters, who are owed nearly $107,000. Morning TV show host Regis Philbin, who recorded an album in 1968, is owed $7,255.
Romancewright 1 year ago
In the event that the royalties are not claimed, the money will be turned over to the state, which will hold them until the claims are made. But Spitzer said he hoped that all of the royalties would be claimed.
Donnelly said he originally considered filing class action suits against the labels. "But what we discovered is that every time we found a good plaintiff, the record companies would offer to pay them."
Romancewright 1 year ago
Spitzer said the interest on the royalties would be included in the payouts to the artists.
The record companies agreed to establish Web sites that include lists of artists and writers that are owed payments. They also agreed to take out advertisements in industry publications and pledged to share artists' contact information with one another.
Romancewright 1 year ago
"I think there was a lot more money than was disbursed today," said Donnelly, who has represented such artists as jazz giant Ornette Coleman and funk pioneer Bootsy Collins in such royalty disputes. "They've been making interest on this money for a long time."
Spitzer said the interest on the royalties would be included in the payouts to the artists.
The record companies agreed to establish Web sites that include lists of artists and writers that are owed payments.
Romancewright 1 year ago
'DID THE RIGHT THING'
Spitzer noted that the labels -- Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, Sony Corp.'s Sony Music, EMI Group Plc Bertelsmann AG's BMG Group and closely held Warner Music Group cooperated after his office approached them.
"They did the right thing," he said.
Music industry attorney Bob Donnelly, whom Spitzer credited with bringing the issue to his attention, was more critical of the labels.
Romancewright 1 year ago
"When artists cannot be located because, for example, they or their estates have moved without providing contact information, the royalties are held by the company for the artist to claim them," said Steven Marks, general counsel for the industry's trade group Recording Industry Association of America.
Romancewright 1 year ago
While some popular artists such as David Bowie, Sean "P Diddy" Combs and Dolly Parton will benefit, the majority of the artists are not stars, but rather more obscure performers and one-hit wonders, Spitzer said.
"We have this misperception that artists have all gained enormous wealth by virtue of their success," he said at a press conference. "But there are many artists who struggle, who have one successful song and they depend on those royalties.......
Romancewright 1 year ago
Date: May 4, 2004 @ 6:42 PM
Artists to get $50 mln in unpaid music royalties
By Derek Caney
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's largest record labels will return $50 million in unpaid royalties to thousands of artists following a two-year probe by the New York State Attorney General's Office, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said Tuesday.......
Romancewright 1 year ago
The Beatles, Romance - All Dis Music, and so on.......
Criminals
11:11
Romancewright 1 year ago
EMI IS A CRIMINAL OPERATION AND A DISGRACE TO THOSE WHO CREATE ORIGINAL MUSIC COMPOSITIONS! WHO CARES THAT THEY'RE A SUPER POWER IN THE MUSIC PUBLISHING BUSINESS? CRIME IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenneth Wright
"Romance"
11:11
Romancewright 1 year ago
Today a judge has ordered Men at work must pay 5% of money earned from the song since 2002 as well as future royalties.
Larrikin Music, which owns the copyright to Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree, had sought 60% of royalties.
Obviously it could've been worse for Men at Work, but I still feel a sense of injustice for them. Larrikin Music are just bloodsuckers, Dire Straits once sang about "Money for Nothing (and your cheques for free)", that's what Larrikin are getting.
standenberg 1 year ago
i dont hear it myself how they r Similar lol...i go to gudies and we still sing kooaburra haha and i love world down under no one acc cares that it "stole" some of the lines from kooaburra the band got ripped off like
crazyvicki18 1 year ago
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
mikeknight4u 1 year ago
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
mikeknight4u 1 year ago
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
mikeknight4u 1 year ago
I'm sure MOW blew all their money a long time ago. Can you go bankrupt in Australia? If yes, then I'd recommend the members all file for bankruptcy and laugh at the record companies like a kookaburra.
mikeknight4u 1 year ago
I think it would be a good idea to sue the lawyers for ruining the song.
If we club together i think we could be in with a chance.
MewsBews 1 year ago 2
i dont get it
ccc21dm 1 year ago
It's a shame for the band. Both songs come from Australia. How patriotic!
Terrible. Hopefully Men at Work will stay together and recoup their losses.
Tomblebooze 1 year ago 3
bullshit
alltimetali 1 year ago
the judge was quite obviously not a musician and tone deaf....otherwise he would have realized that the riff in men at work is in an entirely different key
eyeshalfclosed 1 year ago
Substantial? Judges are supposed to be clever people. How in hell did this guy get to be a Judge? There are other songs that have parts that sound like the kookaburra song. This judgement was a joke. I haven't met anyone who supports it.
RCbeastly 2 years ago
It's only a sequence of 11 notes that's same. If you take the 11 notes, divided by the total number of notes in that song, or the duration occupied by the 11 notes over the duration of the entire song, you don't get 60%.
The only thing this verdict proves is that judge Peter Jacobson is an effing retard.
disainit 2 years ago
You said it right, buddy! I'm with Team Men At Work! If I meet Colin, I'll tell him this. You and your bandmates are five sweet Australians with the power and the courage to tell all that "Down Under" was and still is an original tune! I'm right beside you all the way, Mate.
MsAussie83 1 year ago 3
Glory hunting judge. Or complete music idiot
whose music understanding is limited to short sequences of notes played on a recorder in primary school.
disainit 2 years ago
1. There are only a certain number of notes on a flute and in the western scale, therefore it's extremely likely that it was done unknowingly
2. I would think that 30 years of being unrecognised would constitute that the infringement is not of a recognisable portion
3 If you break any song up enough you end up with two note intervals which are used literally every other western song. Even scaling this back, and introducing rhythm, surely there would still equate to thousands of potential cases?
explode90 2 years ago
hmmm... think its time to upload some Men at Work albums...
terwindows 2 years ago
Shame on you Australians,is this what we have become and by the way,i cant heae it and no one has for 30 yrs, up until now,go figure!
chique1111 2 years ago 2
You can't hear it? It's utterly obvious, but the REASON it was not noticed for 30 years is that it was unintentional, subconcious, innocuous. Influenced. Iv anyone wants to sue, it should be Paul McCartney suing The Jam for their sonfg START which is IDENTICAL to Taxman. (see my videos)
LordInksworth 2 years ago
@LordInksworth Geoge Harrison wrote Taxman.
If youwere to ask 12 people at random(same number as a jury if they could distinguish between the two;my bet is they would not find in favour of Larrikin.Larrikin just tried it on and got lucky.
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someguywithvideos 2 years ago
Shoot the band
jnmklo9 2 years ago
Smug lawyer? Surely not.
Lawyer: second only to the leech
jnmklo9 2 years ago
NewsOnABC, Not just another video.
datingwomensex 2 years ago
What a joke. If it blatantly copied Marion Sinclair's work she would have said something about it herself. Even if it was simmilar she was probably a kind hearted soul who would have been flattered to have influenced this huge hit, with no thought of financial gain for herself. This in contrast to the smug Lawyer in this clip.
britishfirstandlast 2 years ago
This is total bullshit. Men at Work just got royally fucked.
ar4216 2 years ago 41
The woman who made the song died. Now it's just greedy pricks trying to get free money.
stevespielberg 2 years ago 48
I'll give thumbs up to that.
dwarfish 2 years ago 2
60%? That's fucking cheeky for a tiny little bit of the song that sounds remotely similar. This is taking the piss!
xArmagideonTime 2 years ago 2
Are you kidding me?? That's the biggest stretch I have ever seen in terms of copyright infringement on a song.
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I hope the attorneys for Men at Work are smart enough to insist the laws used are those from 27 years ago. That's when the infringement was started, those are the laws that are supposed to be used. At least that's how it works in many court systems for many types of crimes discovered from the past. Thats what was done for rap artists who started sampling previous hit records before they changed the law.
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daskitso 2 years ago
do you see the Gay community having a go at Larrikin music for having a go at GAY in that song, counter claim LOL
mumandtwins 2 years ago
That's the shittiest part, the chorus is what makes the song. are vegemite going to sue for using the word vegemite, judge, gay your life must be, sue me.
gelfl 2 years ago
that fun
SexCyberGuideCom 2 years ago
this judge must be some old death dumb ass muthafucka, or hes in on it some how. wat a retarded fuk
WogPride201 2 years ago 3
i bet that judge owns the rights to that fucking kookaburra shite
phastasm 2 years ago 4
Both these pieces of music are shit!! Stop fuckin playing them!!
beefjerky3 2 years ago 2
Beef Jerky 3 is right you know
bazzil66 2 years ago
what a bunch of bullshit...the judge must be fucking the lawyer....you know like most faggot aussie judges.
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Cellimmunitydotcom 2 years ago
I hear "Come On Eileen." Watch out Dexy - you're next!
smurfblood 2 years ago
They should have given some credit for using someone elses work instead of getting all the money, fame and credit.
spareaxe 2 years ago
I don't really hear the similarity. I'm not particularly a fan of Men at Work, but I think they got screwed.
1967PONTIACGTO 2 years ago 4
shouldn't it be the record company that has to pay, not the band itself.
ss4donnie 2 years ago
Who the fuck cares about that stupid song anyway? They act like it's actually worth something. lol Wow.
themarycity 2 years ago
fucking bullshit. money money money that's all its about.
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kindweed 2 years ago
Maybe someone should check the judges bank account to see if there was a sizeable deposit made recently. Or maybe he just didn't like the song or the band.
Either way, I hope they can appeal the judgement in that country.
TallosHunter 2 years ago
I have no doubt that Men and Work ripped part of the Kook song for Down Under. However, I don't think it is right that Men and Work has to pay 40 to 60 percent of their royalties. The tune was just a small part of overall song and writing.
RubberWilbur 2 years ago
Give me a break! this is all about Money! Not artists rights. MONEY! You know. the thing thats become most ppl's God.
viperBSG 2 years ago 4
Copy right laws are NOT bullshit. If you're an artist of ANY SORT you would feel very different. I know of a person who saw one of his art works on a mass produced T shirt of which he got no money for. Imagine if it was your story, illustration, game or music and someone bigger than you with more lawyers took your shit and made millions...Oh now its different right?
thejetshowlive 2 years ago
You sound like you're arguing against yourself. Copyright laws are BS because big companies and people who have a L OTof money are usually the only ones able to enforce and exploit the copyrights.
Most individuals can not do very much to enforce their "intellectual property". Additionally, so many copyrights lawsuits like this are just ridiculous, especially on movies and music.
Oh, and the copyright term is ridiculously too long.
tooosweeet 2 years ago
@thejetshowlive, it depends on how much of a wanker you are...
I made a song years ago when I was in a band and this guy who used to jam with us joined a new band, then he started playing my song live at venues... I think it's awesome, a song I made was liked by someone and now is being played on a stage! It makes me feel good.
If your life is all about money, that's your problem...
Music is a hobby. You want money? Get a job...
83uoykcuf 2 years ago 2
@83uoykcuf - Wanker? Whats with the name calling? Sure music is a "hobby"…that is always said by anyone not making money at it. But watch what happens to all your happiness if that other band takes a portion of your song and makes huge money from it and goes #1. I'm sure you will "feel so good" when they reap all the benefits from your brain child. My life isnt all about money but there is sense of Right and Wrong. Walk a mile in a successful artists shoes and then see how you feel.
thejetshowlive 8 months ago
@thejetshowlive I'm pretty sure the lady who wrote the Kookaburra song was never bothered by it. Now that she's dead it's just a bunch of suits running around trying to grab money... Every job has it's ups and downs, and the downs of being a musician is that it's not a real job. I'm in a band but there's no way I'd expect to make a living out of it... I'd rather have a more steady job where I'm guaranteed a certain income. It's just the way life is. Want guaranteed money? Get a job, sorry.
83uoykcuf 8 months ago
Thats why the law is in place. Having said that I think that this is WAY EXCESSIVE and doesnt warrant MILLIONS of Dollars...not on a song that got heavy air play and was #1 THIRTY YRS AGO! So NOW you want MILLIONS? Like I said its very vauge...its not like when Vanilla Ice stole the bass like from Bowie/Mercury's Under Pressure. That was BLATANT!
thejetshowlive 2 years ago
what people dont know is that most top 40 pop songs all over the world are based on only 8 different chord progressions.
so everyone can start suing everyone and win!!
odinmp5 2 years ago 4
The judge is clearly full of Koala Shit!
schratboy 2 years ago 3
This is bullshit. Copyright law is bullshit, too.
Businesses like Disney have warped copyright law to serve their own interests. Disney has no problem using other people's stories to make movies but god forbid you draw a picture of a 100 year old rat without their permission.
Life +70 years? Not likely. They'll just extend copyright law again.
FatoDrunkoAndoStupid 2 years ago 3
this is Bull shit
city68 2 years ago
So any asshole can go out, buy the copyright to an old song, listen for something similar in a recent or current song and then sue the shit out of some random musician.
What a load of bullshit!
theidiotslapper 2 years ago 2
How many songs out there "borrow" a bit of this or that culturally-significant music? Men at Work probably grew up hearing that little ditty, and naturally, unconsciously incorporated a snatch of it in this iconic song about Australia. That's no more a deliberate infringement than if they had used a lick from "Waltzing Matilda."
This is about opportunism and greed. ='[.]''=
Raycheetah 2 years ago 2
Ts-hh. They can go get fucked. Composers used to borrow all the time from others, there wasn't any 'copy-fucking-right' back then. It was a sign of prestige.
posquint 2 years ago 3
That judge couldn't tell a musical note from a bank note.
2uberu 2 years ago 3
Larrikin is gay...
RockyBalboa211 2 years ago 2
I don't see how playing a flute line is plagiarism. So they have to fork over 60% of their royalties for a few seconds of a song? What BS. Colin is right. It's all about money to this dirtbag. And it only took them 30 years to come to this conclusion. I'd hunt that guy down and split his wig.
darkknight91 2 years ago 5
This is bs... the people who sued them should be shot then and there citizenship to Australia be REVOKED!... bastards greedy money grabbers
SyCoStephen 2 years ago 3
What!? That old song doesn't sound anything like "Down Under"! That is ridiculous! The judge must have been high as fuck!
fatsotomuscles 2 years ago 4
@fatsotomuscles
nonsense is it
and if so it would be reminiscive adopting a famous -childrens-song-hymn whithin a new
pop hymn.
Realizalize 2 years ago
this is FUCKEN BULLSHIT...FUCK YOU LARRIKIN! FUCK YOU!!!!
siliconsurf 2 years ago 2
For those of you who don't hear the the similarity, you have to do what the judge did:
Fill your ears and your head with cotton, and then listen to the playback of both songs side by side. You really won't be able to tell the difference!
SeeSp0tRun 2 years ago
fuck this asshole
siliconsurf 2 years ago
yes it does sound 'like' it but at the same time it is about 10 notes (if that) in about a 30-40 second instrumental.... they are being picky and money hungry to be honest... especially since they bought the copy right for the kookaburra song and only now are suing because of a tv show they saw in 2007
SyCoStephen 2 years ago 3
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So let me get this straight, Australlia is screwing the band that that made the world fantasize about and want to visit the land down under??? I think every australlian book author should start sueing every other book author who has any single sentance that is the same as in their book. That's how retarded this is!! Blood sucking bastards! Boycotting "Music Sales" for life!
fredlobster2 2 years ago
what a load of shit. Fucking beurocrats
Renegade30 2 years ago 4
Bullshit.
gruezork 2 years ago 5
Who holds the copyright now?
They also mention Vegemite
don't tell Kraft
Choowbz 2 years ago 3
Larrikin Music Publishing Pty Ltd
draac1 2 years ago
FUCK U JUDGES FUCK U Kookaburra U FUCKING GREEDY CUNT
GoogleSays 2 years ago