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  • this is the best scene of all sw epicsodes, even lucas couldnt touch it. you will pay for your lack of vision

  • This is a little bit too fast, maybe slowing it down 30% can fix it.

  • I actually liked your Bespin duel changes as well as the changes to the first Death Star duel but this one seemed too fast.

  • I liked it. And I didn't feel that it was "too fast" until the last part of the segment. But, otherwise I'd have to say that you did a superb job of editing this fight.

  • in the begenning this fight was pretty much the same level as the prequels in terms of speed. no need to mess with this one. great job on episode 5 fight tho.

  • could you make the prequel fights slow? y'now to make them like the originals

  • Just practice this was? Complete your skills so we can see these entire scenes in new glory! This scene always brings a tear to my eyes.

  • Darth Vader is a fag, he should've won.

  • god i love star wars

  • skywalker cuts his own hair

  • the best fight is anakin vs obi-wan !

  • "....sissster....you have a twin sisssster.... "

    he sounds like a snake saying that. makes him scary. i like that

  • I really like the way you sped it up. Guess I'm the only one that thinks the original version just looked to fake, like they were just trying to hit the sabers together, rather than trying to find an opening in each other's attacks. The speed up makes it more believable imo.

  • very well done nice job

  • i think they should re-do the duel scenes of the films to a standard seen in The Force Unleashed with all those super duper force powers....

  • @weilim10 Agreed.

  • Throw the sith down the well, so my galaxy can be free.. 

  • way too fast! its like their on speed!

  • i disagree. i'm an episode 3 fan

  • i like it

  • If you watch the documentary on the series, producer Rick Maccallum and Lucas both said that the sword fighting is slower in the period of ROTJ, because there was not a "school" for Jedi as there was in Phantom and TCW. Lucas himself said that he made it slower to show the difference in the "hay day" of the Jedi and the time when Jedi were rare.

  • not bad ; )

  • And I forgot to say that faster is not always better

  • First: You cant make anything more intense than the original duel.Second: The fast-motion is so ridiculous that its funny

  • My goodness! The first four seconds of that fight were better than all the jedi-sith duels in all six movies combined. Awesome.

  • You should have speeded it up way more!

  • wtf you changed palpatines face to look like the prequels anakin eyes. it is wierd since the rest of his face around his eye areas is white

  • It has been shown in the movies that when a strong Jedi does temporarily use his anger, they are far stronger and faster than the sith.

  • i always wondered what this fight would look like with a blue saber

  • Where did you get these clips from oiringaly ? ( I know, it's spelt wrong) The lightsabers look different to me.

  • i know it wasn't your fault but speeding it up ruined the music.

    but apart from that good job

  • He was supposed to be just as powerful as his father. I think the reason he never seemed as strong as Vader was that he didn't use the Force as much as Anakin did in the prequels

  • That's because they amped up all  the prequal duels to compensate for their not being as good as the original trilogy.

  • @Ch35h1r3C47

    He becomes more powerful after ep. 6 (all-mighty)

  • Interesting work. I think speeding up the fight did kind of work, but it was sped up a degree too much as you already noted in your vid description.

    The only place I think speeding it up detracts is the last clash when Vader goes "...Sister...", specifically with the final blows from Luke's saber when Vader has fallen.

    But yeah, nice take on an epic fight scene (and my fave lighsaber fight).

  • the reason for the way they fought was because lightsabers were suppose to be like 40 pound claymores...like the one william wallace use...prequals made them more like samurai sowrds.

  • How could you say this duel was way better than Darth Maul vs QuiGonn and ObiWan!? I mean seriously it's got duel of the fates playing in the background and believe or not that whole fight was real, those guys were really moving that fast nothing was made to help that fight with a computer unlike episodes II and III. I will still say that this is the greatest saber battle in all the movies because of the bond between father and son and the music.

  • Duel of the Fates was okay but it's overrated. Darth Maul kicks The Jedi in the face so many times they don't even bleed (I know they're Jedi and far more durable than regular people but still) and the way that Maul was defeated by just standing there really cheapens it. This fight (Without the speeding up) was far better. Just my opinion.

  • That song in my opinion is not overrated it really is epic, I think it's the second best saber duel in the whole series. I never said I thought it was better than this duel though I will always believe that this was the greatest saber duel because of the dialogue and the music and simply having the Emperor, Luke and Vader in the same room is amazing.

  • @vfgjhj I agree to some extent. Maul vs Gui-Gon and Obi-Wan was epic. However, Lucas said the Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel wasn't sped up either - except for when Obi-Wan slashes his lightsaber down at Anakin on the table after their brief hand-to-hand bout.

  • @vfgjhj Also return had more emotion in it for me.

  • @vfgjhj I agree with you both. There is a distinctive difference between two in the term of satisfaction. I got more of an adrenaline kick from Duel of the Fates but more emotional felt by this fight. But else I think both were great.

  • @vfgjhj hey guys, dont mean to intrude, just wanted to give my opinion....i felt that being that Darth vader is now machine, and luke skywalker didnt recieve the proper "sword training", the "return of the jedi" final battle made sense.....Luke didnt have real sword training (in the story) so his skills are just amature, and since vader is now machine, he isnt in shape to sword fight. The prequels (which i dont like at all), showed anakin before he was a machine, in shape and with prope

  • @gtrman12887 proper sword training.....so although the moves in the prequels were "better" and "more realistic", it made sense. its all about the training (regarding the story)....just sayin....enjoy the vid....i love all the final battles of the movies lol

  • thanks you gave me a great idea

  • the light efects are superb but the speed is too much fast!

  • Thing is, even though Anakin is sposed to be stronger as his former self...I think Vader is way more of a badass and I would be way more terrified of duelin a tall dude in black armour with a bitchin' mask that makes a fuckin freaky noise than simply Anakin :P VADER FTW!

  • whats the music at 4:10 and following? can you say me the name pls :-)

  • it was fine as it was - it showed lukes power fine enough, bear in mind jedi in the prequals had decades of training luke would of had months - for him to stand against even a cripled vader is impressive

  • Notice how Vader didn't leap up after Luke as he did on Mustafar.

  • He is older LOL. And less of an angry bitch that he was in ROTS.

  • That was pretty cool. Nice to speed the duel up to have a faster pace. Also, did you notice that when vader throws his saber, it looks more pink than red, shocking.

  • Man this is way too fast, it makes it look like crap man. No need to mess with this, it was a good fight from the begining. Like I said way to fast, which makes it look crappy. I agree with those below. Nice try though.

  • I agree 100%. This was just an experiment in editing and there is no way I'd want this duel to be changed.

  • sorry, this is one scene that should never be touched... [2]

  • sorry, this is one scene that should never be touched...

  • i watched this while listening to the speedycake remix of caramelldansen, it was awsome!

  • but the only part you should of kept normal was when luke tapped into the darkside

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  • The slow fighting looks better in the Original trilogy

  • its not that fast a tad slower in some places and it could be good

  • I think you made it a little too fast.

    Though the original was too slow.

    I think it should be fast enough to be entertaining, but not so fast so that the movements seem inhumane.

  • Should their lightsabers be casting shadows at 4:25? I think that's a production gaffe.

  • love the music at 4:18

  • Why did Anakin never become emperor he was said to be stronger his master the sith?

  • 4:20

  • This was the most epic 1 IMO. Ep.V was pretty much at the same level but this was more epic so it wins. Revenge follows and then Ep.IV, then Phantom and last comes Ep.II. The problem with Revenge was that the effects were awesome but just unreal, it wasn't a normal lightsaber duel anymore, watch Ep-IV and u'll c how it was maybe even better than Ep.3 cuz it was real and had more emotion. Just my opinion but that's I think how it is. Return FTW.

  • I thought Phantom was the best duel of the saga cause it wasn't zoomed in on the characters too much like Revenge of the Sith or this one. But this one comes at a close second just because of the drama in it.

  • Yeah the drama intensified it.

  • well it makes sence to have the battle on mustafar really fast because it was an epic fight between master and apprentice and was some what emotional if you ask me this fight is the best simply because

    master vs apprentice<father vs son

  • i agree - it is not too fast. the original is far too slow.

  • ABdirector I REALLY like what you've done here and DONT think that it's TOO FAST(Except for the very last part MAYBE)but your comment that the "Return" duel was probably the best in the saga is untenable to say the least! For EMOTIONAL content and overall coolness the award goes to "Empire" AND "Revenge". And if it wasn't for the EXCELLENT Darth Maul vs. Qui-Gon+Obi-Wan duel,"Phantom" might have been a COMPLETE WASTE.Special mention also goes out to "Revenge" for MOST duels in a Star Wars film.

  • Got to give the actor who played the Emperor credit (I can't remember his name at the moment). Not only did he do an excellent job, but he went back and played himself younger, 20 years later in episodes 1-3.

    I know it's a ton of make-up to make him look old on this one, but it's still pretty cool.

  • The guy who played the Emperor was Ian McDiarmid. He's also in a movie called Dirty, Rotten Scoundrels.

  • wow

    how can u think this duel is better then the prequel battles?

    go watch Obi-Wan vs Anakin

  • there to fake looking the only good prequil fight is the darth maul one thats some crazy real martial arrts on an actual set not infront of a blue screem

  • Ray Parks (uber good with a staff. He even did some damn good shit in Xmen as toad) The coreography was more martial arts i agree. The original trilogy was more like fencing LOL.

  • you should have made some bits of the fight fast and overs a bit slower

  • i dont understand whats the difference?

  • Why is this fight not more even-Luke can't have improved THAT much to easily beat the chosen one-it should be evenly matched-come on, he can't have improved THAT much against an-all powerful Sith who could beat Obi Wan/Dooku!

  • but then again darth vader is not as powerful as he was before he lost his limbs

  • back then people didn't know that though :(

    This is supposed to be the chosen one for both sides and #1 bad guy in all film history and he almost gets killed by a young boy with only a years worth of Jedi training-it should have been an even fight like Obi Wan vs Anakin :(

  • I think it was to emphasize how Luke was giving in to his anger and rage to give him the ability to defeat Vader like that. (Shown by how the Emperor is laughing telling him how well he did after).

  • I guess but Vader also has tremendous anger and rage-he's a Sith for crying out loud!

  • He gave into rage, sort of like Anakin did to count Dooko. However, dont forget how powerful luke is. He goes on to become the leader of the jedi for many years after these films. He is also better then Anakin. He not only is as powerful but could control himself. Luke was the best jedi in my opinion.

  • i agree but when you think about it vader only killed count dooku and obi wan when they were old.

  • lol-that's a different type of viewpoint I guess-but they should have explained WHY Luke improved so much in the film when it was released in the cinemas

  • wow! That was pretty amazing, do you think that you can make one where you add a few of the scenes more than once like the Obi Wan vs Darth vader one?

  • huh, I've seen the real version about 15-20 times and Luke looks a lot better in this. GJ

  • Before seeing the REAL scene, I thought that luke actually beat vader down that quickly with his lightsaber. To be honest, I was disappointed with the real video's speed when luke chopped vader's hand off. GJ

  • anakin betrayal and the song in 4 : 21 sorry %!

  • the best song ever is anakin betrayal in 4 : 20 empror theme in the fduel luke vs dad

  • man i thought this fight was cool in the 90's even a couple og weeks ago good job on speeding up

  • good job! but i think speeding up the last duel just got rid of the intensity of the scene. you know all the drama of it :D i love this movie so much.

  • Great idea, but it seems like all you did was speed it up.

  • It seems a little too fast but awesome job! 5/5

  • i liked the jedi's fury scene, but seems rushed...like vader saying 'hurry up luke, i want to get on the floor' lol. Great job here anyway 5/5 from me.

  • Thanks for posting this. Luke and was equal to ROTS Anakin by now in force power and saber dueling so the speed should have looked close to this.

  • Also, as a final note, Luke becomes the most powerful Jedi ever in the EU(Expanded Universe, that is, everything that's not the movies). He's pretty much a noob in 4-6.

  • Did you use after effects to edit?

  • Nope. Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum.

  • Isn't the force choke just a dark-side development of force telekinesis (ie. force throw, movement of objects, etc?)

  • Question. `1.

    Would killing Palpatine have caused Luke to have irrevocably gone over to the Dark Side?

    2. I wonder what would have happened if Yoda had gone to Endor instead of Dagobah?

  • Yoda living with ewoks? Oh my god.

  • 1.) Probably. Killing Palpatine would imply that Luke gave in to his hate, since Palpatine was defenseless. He probably would've killed Vader, too.

    2.) He would've been captured and killed. The entire point of Yoda going to Dagobah was that it was an ambiguous planet, one outside of Republic space. He needed a secluded location for his exile.

  • Yeah yeah, I think that the theme of the movie is like "KIlling in cold blood leads to the dark side blah blah blah." Then again Ben told Luke to kill Vader. Obi Wan is a stupid old man..

  • Hm a little bit too fast, but of course better..

  • More awesomeness.

  • aparrently the force choke is hereditary. only luke and vader were able to use it.

  • ya i noticed that luke can use force choke

  • he used in in jabbas palace, didnt he?

  • I noticed that too, but what about Kyle Katarn, he was able to use it!

    But other then that I have not seen any other jedi use it.

  • this looks good!

  • The speed was fine in the original. Speeding it up just looks awkward. Especially at the end where the strikes are meant to be slower, angrier, and more vicious. Adding speed doesn't make it any more intense. You just lose a lot of the emotion.

  • I second that

  • I third that. I 100% agree BeierFilms. This was just for fun and experiment.

  • this is a little too fast imo...just a hair slower and it might have looked more natural

  • I agree. The original is ten million times better. I'm tempted to remove this video from Youtube but I'm not gonna because bad videos like these can teach valuable lessons.

  • ur work is good it's just that u need to find the point in where it's not too fast that it looks like ur fast forwarding, but then not slow enough to be the original. But still, not bad

  • They need to make a speed increase device that let's you specify factors smaller than 2x available to the general public for cheap, because sometimes double is just too fast!

  • very good. actually i wonder why didnt george lukas had the idea of simply speeding it up... Oo

  • I hope Lucas does not touch the duel. I just did this for fun. No way do I think the original should be changed.

  • Teah, but the other 2 were good in theory, and with some simple tweaking, they can be sped up cool. I may get back to you on that!

  • As darth vader would say impressive, most impressive your work was outsatnding and i say keep them coming in the future.

  • did u notice that anakin/darth vader gets his arm cut off twice,his wife dies,he gets burned,cut in half,and gets owned in like all movies. WTF?

  • In Episodes IV and V he stomps everyone.

  • nope he gets owned at da end of 4 when hes like spining in the fighter =P

    u got me on 5tho

  • lol this gave me an idea, whatd be well funny is if someone speeded it up so much an put the benny hill theme in the background

  • the speed makes it much better haha so what i dont get is why that paletine dude or whatever is like WANTING too kill off vader, if i was vader id be like wtf bro i thought we were cool??

  • What's the name of the music at 4:01 ??

  • just the normal starwars soundtrack. On the soundtrack its called lightsaber duel i think. Oo

  • a jedi's fury.

  • The speed looks ridiculous at some points...

  • good...perhaps don't speed it up too much or it looks comical at certain points.

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  • You've done better...

    But speeding up the duels blows with a capital B. It's better in the movie's...

  • It was awesome and you know it!

  • i kinda have to agree with athanasidis24. This is like watching a Benny Hill skit with no Yakkity Sax.

  • I'm going to have to agree as well. I liked the speed of the this movie's duel. The music's effect is almost lost, with a higher speed duel.

  • I agree. It is better in the movies and if Lucas did what I did to this in the Revised Revised versions, I'd be pretty pissed. I just did this for fun.

  • Honestly, didnt like it as much as your other ones. Some parts were too fast and some parts didnt need to be fast. but overall it was alright.

  • I made it fast to match it with the prequels.

    But don't get me wrong, I like the original way better. I just did this for fun and I too like the original better.

  • Your video is nice, watching it a little faster was funny!

  • Good escpellialy at when Luke defeats Vader

  • Awesome! You did a great job with the sound effects and the music!

  • That was incredible! Best Sped up duel edit yet!

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