Maybe if he did more research than looking in a outdated high school textbook he would find the transitional fossils he is looking for: Archaeopteryx is one.
If the arguments for Creation are scientifically valid, why haven't any of them been submitted for scientific peer-review?
At the last count, there have been over 240,000 peer-reviewed publications demonstrating beyond any reasonable (or even unreasonable) doubt, the facts of evolution.
As far as I have found, to date, there have been no similar publications supporting creationism that have even been submitted for scientific peer-review, never mind passing it.
This guy dont even understand evolution. First he shows a few slides where its obvious that he doesnt know what evolution ACTUALLY claims, then he starts to rage against his own ad hoc (very very very non-official) definition of evolution! How come none of these creationist idiots actually argue against what scientiests ACTUALLY say about evolution instead of their own misintepretations of evolution! I feel sad for the people actually listening and believing this bullshit... *SIGH*
I always knew that atheists were pretty dumb but the majority of atheists know that deep down in their dark hearts - they beleive their beloved BS macro- evolution crap can excuse them from their sexual and other deviances. they know its true and almost everyone sliding rowards atheism - their sexual perversion increases - possibly hard for them to admit.
So many lies in such a short period of time, how does he keep a straight face? for one thing he forgets about the pre-Cambrian fossils of very basic forms, and then Cambrian again fish with no jaws or skeletal structures as we see in modern animals and no modern lungs, no birds, no flowering plants and the list goes on. U dont see humans with dinosaurs or even prehistoric mammals and so on. So much u can point out so little space to do so...
@rushncap youtube is flooded with stupid atheist's who are incappable of challenging the scientific arguments against evolution in a video like this. As a result many of them resort to abusing the ratings feature as if it were some kind of valid refutation. In fact most of the criticism of this video from atheist's have nothing to do with it's content.
@fellowservant34 -- on the upside, we "atheist's" can spell. Oh, and that dude is a dumbass with no credentials, recycling the same old debunked crap as if he invented it.
@rushncap you just proved my point. You atheist's have nothing more than ad hominem attacks, questioning credentials, and typical filthy mouths. And even if the arguments were old it's irrelevent if the arguments are sound and scientifically valid.
@fellowservant34 you presented this man as Dr Mike Riddle. When did he obtain a doctorate ? To those who earned a doctorate in science it is very offensive for someone with no training to simple claim the title. He has a degree in mathematics and a graduate degree in education. That gives him no more qualifications to challange any science than any other person.
It is not ad hominem to challange falsely claimed credentials.
@fellowservant34 there are no valid scientific arguments that challenges evolution. Evolution is observed extensively in the fossil record, it has been witnessed in bacteria in the lab, as well as being witnessed in humans. This really has nothing to do with atheism - any intelligent religious person understands that evolution happened and is continuing to happen today.
The reason no one is talking about the content of this video is that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.....
@fellowservant34 ... (cont) you just have to see the first opening minutes of this video. The theory of evolution has NOTHING to do with how the Earth formed, no how life came from non-life. Seriously, the guy should at least read a little basic science here before claiming that evolution is how the planet came in to existence. He also uses the word "idea", which is utter nonsense. It's not just an "idea", it's what 100% of the evidence is telling scientists.
@fellowservant34 oh and by the way, the numbers of "transitional" forms that have been found throughout the fossil record, in exactly the places and times they're expected to be (as predicted by evolutionary theory), is so high, that the notion of an "Intermediary form" is absurd. The changes between forms are so numerous and so minute as to be only noticeable over vast periods of time, which we know the Earth has lived through (thanks, carbon dating! go science!)
@fellowservant34 ... also, sorry to keep bugging on this but this video is a bad joke. He's talking about dogs, and he thinks God created dogs? Well actually, humans created dogs through selectively breeding wolves... Also, the quote here from Darwin alleging that he had no evidence to support his claim is cherry picking and not what Darwin meant from that statement - he had plenty of evidence, and we have even more nowadays.
Believe in God if you must, but dude, don't listen to this idiot.
@fellowservant34 you answered what i wanted too. i wanted to say thank you. im a clinical lab scientist. and im not popular. because i believe in God. don't care. no school can brainwash me. believe it or not, more of think its false but many are too afraid to say certain things because they want their career. im not out publishing books, *yet* so i can enjoy speaking out in a few places. God bless you. when the time comes and they realize they are wrong, it will be too late for them. ;-(
WE have HUNDREDS of examples of transitional forms in the fossil record. Christians like this bozo are going to be touting evolution as the indisputable evidence of gods existence in the near future. The debate is OVER.. In fact, there never was a debate. Creationists only WANT to believe there is a controversy here. Evolution is FACT and anyone clinging to fairy tales, like this guy is, will be seen as complete fools. Mark my words...
@MrTruthAddict It depends what you mean by evolution. If you mean animals change over time, no one questions that, it's a fact. But if you mean these changes are without limits like in darwinism where fish over time become philosophers, then you've left science. This kind of evolution is a myth, having nothing to do with real science.
@fellowservant34 Thanks for the chuckle, but that's like saying "I believe the sun will come up tomorrow, but I don't believe it will in the the year 2012" If you believe in microevolution, then you have just discovered MACRO evolution, because no major change occurs in a species unless there are many small changes. The scientific community does not agree with your pastor's interpretation of science. So stop listening to ignorant people and learn the truth for yourself.
@MrTruthAddict Don’t mistake micro-evolution for Darwinian evolution. They are not related. When a Christian says they do not believe in evolution, it is not a reference to changes in specific traits. It is a reference to changes that require crossing the DNA limitations. When the facts stare evolutionists in the face, they are reduced to either insulting those who present the evidence or they must admit their world view doesn’t hold water.
@fellowservant34 Thats like saying days of the week are not related to months in a year. Macro evolution is nothing more than micro evolution stretched out over a long period of time. Micro evolution IS evolution, just seen on a smaller scale. It's always so easy to see when Im talking to an indoctrinated cult member. You always repeat the same tired ignorant arguments. Learn about evolution before trying to critique it. You're regurgitating old arguments used by creationists for 40 yrs
@MrTruthAddict I know people that call themselves Christian, who deny the diety of Christ. I don't care about titles, I care about evidence which darwinian evolution has none of.
@fellowservant34 Okay stop embarrassing yourself. Just because your cult leader says there is no proof doesn't make it true. The debate is over. In fact, there never really was a debate. Evolution is FACT. Indisputable fact. There are hundreds, if not thousands of examples of transitional fossils which prove that the theory of evolution is valid. Learn something. Start with the Dr Collins video if you need a Christian to teach you.
@fellowservant34 BTW, he does not deny the deity of Christ. He is a Christian. But he also KNOWS that evolution is fact and he will explain to you exactly why. He points out all the evidence and actually explains why Christians like you are making ALL christians look bad by clinging to superstition and antiquated thought.
He skipped over these bible verses never told in a fundy church.
Lev 20:9 - For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death
Lev 26:29 - And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
Deut 2:34 -And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain alive.
@fellowservant34 I'm pointing out ones idiocy in treating the Bible as inerrant. If it truly is, you better kill yourself if you have ever worked on the Sabbath.
I suggest you get out of your parents basement and learn what science is all about before making ignorant statements and posting crap from scientifically illiterate Mike Riddle. He is no more qualified to talk about biology than is his qualifications to perform an appendectomy on you, or do your taxes.
@jknengr796 You've refuted exactly nothing said in this video. Ad hominem attacks, ridicule, and a poor understanding of biblical context does not constitute a good argument.
@fellowservant34 This guy is an evangelical preacher selling his wares to an ignorant audience for profit. Nothing Ad hominem about pointing out that he is unqualified. Look up the definition.
Lev. 20:9 - "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death". Tell me about Biblical context of family values... How many thousands of other verses when cherry picked are absurd? Creationists do this all the time-but only the verses they want you to hear.
@jknengr796 Again, it's telling that you have no contextual understanding as to why this scripture does not apply to Christians, as a result, you have proven to be biblically illiterate in addition to replying to absolutely zero content in this video.
@fellowservant34 LOL, doesnt apply to Christians? How so? I'd LOVE to hear this one. You Christians say that we are not supposed to follow the old testament because it is the old covenant and Jesus came to bring a new covenant but you conveniently pick and choose which verses you want to adhere to. homosexuality is one. Jesus never said a word about it, but you condemn gays as being hellbound perverts. Your belief system really is primitive and ugly.
@fellowservant34 Listen to what MrTruthAddict is telling you. He makes a reasonable point. It's up to you to either be lazy or make an effort to learn about the scientific process. Biblical literalist fundamental types can't reconcile that idea that the scientific process is a way for us to figure out the workings of God's creation without prior bias. Accept it or continue to live with a bronze age understanding of the universe.
@fellowservant34 You're lying and you know it. There is overwhelming evidence which proves that evolution is real and scientific fact. We have real evidence you can touch and feel. On the other hand, the bible is a fairy tale book which causes men to do many evil things to fellow human beings.
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@fellowservant34 LOL, you might want to ask Dr. Francis Collins about his opinion on this subject. He is a devout Christian and he KNOWS that evolution is fact. He explains it fully in his video, (The Language of God) and demonstrates why Christians are going to lose the argument if they persist on clinging to ignorance like the guy in this video and you too obviously do.
Mark my words, in 2 or 3 years, televangelists will be claiming evolution as evidence of Gods existence. Mark my words
08:43 proves that the person in the video is either ignorant or intentionally deceiptful or both. The Cambrian explosion is nothing of the sort. The highest life form to come out the end of this period was fish (and jawless fish at that). It was only the major Phyla that appeared in this period which was precededed by soft bodied organisms which are less likely to leave fossils. You won't even find and amphibian in the Cambrian let alone a mammal which is a big problem for Creationists.
We have an embarrassment of transitionals despite the fact that fossilisation is a relatively rare process. However, transitionals per se are NOT needed to prove Evolution, they are merely a bonus. The simple fact that fossils exhibit a general trend from simplicity to complexity over geological time is sufficient not only to prove Evolution but to disprove the Biblical Creation at the same time. The fossil record is not remotely anything like that which would be expected of a global flood.
Wikipedia(co-founded by an avowed atheist) goes out of its way to trash creationists on their transitional fossils page, yet when it's time to produce a list based on the many so called transitionals in existence, the list is called "very tentative" and they then go on to say quote" An ideal list would only recursively include 'true' transitionals" What!! Do you people have indisputable evidence for transitional fossils or not.
@theabiotictheory You're right, transitional fossils have been an ongoing and nagging problem for evolutionist's. The dirty history of frauds and hoaxes are a testiment to their lack real scientific evidence. The best thing evolution has going for it is the incredible PR machine used to convince the public of the evolutionary position by increasing and frequently using the term "overwhelming evidence" or similar terms in relation to the alleged existence of evidence that supports their position.
Another fraudulent academically dishonest creationist "Dr". He does NOT have an earned doctorate from an accredited degree granting institution.
He apparently has a math education bachelors degree. This does not make him qualified to discuss anything other than 11th grade algebra or 10th grade geometry. His complete lack of knowledge and ignorance of science and more specifically biology and geology are pretty apparent. What a moron!
I'm sorry but you lost all credibility in my eyes the moment I noticed links to CONSERVAPEDIA (the Mos Eisley (look it up) of the internet) in the description box.
wow he had to tell the audience what a vertebrate and invertebrate was. was he talking to grade school kids and he got it wrong an invertebrate is an animal without a backbone not a week one if an animal has a back bone at all week or strong it is a vertebrate.He is just saying that evolution is wrong because i say so and i have a graph and it doesn't even have numbers on it (is this a joke?)
I consider myself rather open minded, but after 5 mins of watching this, it was obvious this guy has no clue. He talks about intermediate forms and states that we should see birds with half feathers and half scales. Well guess what? They still do to this day. He clearly has never looked at a live bird very closely. The body is covered in feathers, while the feet have scales. ...wait, what?
"& if a man sells his daughter to be a female servant, she shall not go out as the male servant do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully w her. & if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal w her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, & her marriage
" If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, & her marriage rights. & if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money."
What about the starlight issue ? Are you questioning the speed of light or is it 186,282 MPH ? Are not supernovas the standard candle in the universe & can be used to accurately estimate distance ? Isnt the Universe about 13.4 billion years old or is the starlight we are seeing an image put there to complete the illusion? You have to think about how probable and well researched this data is. Also whether it works in a uniform manner and is repeatable, it is.
..vague to say the least. But I will play. 1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...” Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...” Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.” Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
Lets put it this way, .....people at that time thought the earth was flat.
@AutoBahnForever Again you have a very poor understanding of scripture. The word moved here doesn't mean what you think. You are looking for things to discredit the Bible. But the word moved here means pulling off from its orbit. At the very least you should consider the Bible is using a figure of speech to express the permanence of God's will and the permanence of his creation.
On your other point, there are people today who think the earth is flat, what does that have to do with the Bible?
@fellowservant34 ........Its very interesting that it must be interpreted in a certain way, or somehow I am missing the meaning. Is it being revealed to you in a different manner than me ? I dont think so. Your interpretation of a translated book is so different than the scientific method of proof or not believable. My point is not against Christianity, just using it (the parables in the Bible) to explain scientific processes that so obviously happened over billions of years is ridiculous.
@AutoBahnForever Your problem is that you've been conditioned to believe a particular view of the world.... millions of years...evolution...the dinosaur age ect. what you could use is an education from the creationist worldview. This way you'll at least be informed and won't misrepresent the position and say things like, you can't mix religion and science. It's also obvious that you have very little understanding of the Bible, suggesting that slavery was instituted by God.
@fellowservant34 not instituted but tolerated. How can there be no commandments for slavery ? Or rape ? Or child molestation ?
The real problem you have, is my "views" are backed by the scientific method and peer reviewed FACTS that gains further understanding in many types of science yearly. Its SCIENCE..you know the stuff we use to fly to the moon, map DNA and peer deep into space and time. What about the starlight issue ? Are you questioning the speed of light or is it 186,282 MPH ?
Religion is not science.....there is no mechanism in religion for proof of any aspect of creationism. Just take the word of a 2000 year old book written by people that thought the earth was flat.
Science has peer review & the scientific method. It is also self correcting & self policing by means of research funding.
Remember these are the people that told its members that dinosaurs bones were placed in the soil by God to test our faith & use of condoms is worse than spreading Aids.
@AutoBahnForever Everthing you wrote about the Bible and what Christians believe was a lie.You are completely oblivious to scripture as well as the creationist positon. I'd ask you to consider a sincere and honest study of the creation worldview, but it's obvious people like you only out to mock but not think critically.
@fellowservant34 ,......no mock intended and I am a Christian. But I do not mix science with religion and make up facts to support the conclusions. I understand the view you have, but it is flawed because of the interaction of a true science which includes the wonder of DNA (Evolutionary Science) with the dogma of a supernatural being (Christian religion). Any serious person that believes that science is targeting them is absurd.....their world is dominated by true research, not parables..
@AutoBahnForever How could you ridicule Gods' word and call yourself a Christian? You even said the Bible claims the earth is flat. You wouldn't know the Bible if it fell out the sky and hit you in the head. You sound about as christian as my toaster oven. Besides that, why do you keep attacking arguments that are not being made by me or in this video? FYI I love science because real science supports the Bible, unlike darwinian evolution which is nothing more than a myth.
@fellowservant34 .......I said it was written by people that thought the earth was flat, not that the Bible says so.........I am not ridiculing Gods word, I am ridiculing people that believe that Darwinian Evolution is a myth. You simply cant mix religion and science, Do you believe the Bible word for word ? Should we allow slavery ? Or do you have to make allowances because of time ? Also what part of Bible am I missing ? Some specifics would be grand.
@AutoBahnForever Sorry but you are still incorrect, those who wrote the Bible did not think the earth was flat. As a matter of fact the prophet Isaiah who wrote his book seven centuries before Christ, described the earth as being spherical. Job, which may be the oldest book in the Bible, describes the eath as suspended in space. Science has only recently caught up to the Bible and discovered these facts.
fs34Here are yours. shamayim means sky Job 9:8, “...who by himself spread out the heavens [shamayim]...” Psalm 19:1, “The heavens [shamayim] tell out the glory of God, the vault of heaven [raqiya] reveals his handiwork.” Psalm 102:25, “...the heavens [shamayim] were thy handiwork.” Isaiah 45:12, “I, with my own hands, stretched out the heavens [shamayim] and caused all their host to shine...” Isaiah 48:13, “...with my right hand I formed the expanse of the sky [shamayim]...”
@AutoBahnForever When the Bible says God stetches out the heavens, what's your gripe? It's exactly what we see in reference to the expanding universe.
"How can there be no commandments for slavery ? Or rape ? Or child molestation ?"
It does, you need to read what the Bible says about manstealers, and how we are to treat our neighbors. Stop listening only to Bible mockers and scoffers. Read and listen to the christian apologist's who can give you detailed answers to your questions.
@fellowservant34 ..........You dont think that Slavery and Child Molestation should make the top 10 ? I sure do. I think that shows more of the morals of the time (man made) versus a divine rule list (perfect intellect and knowledge). I dont think you could speak with a moral person that would not include those 2 over your pick of 2 that made the final version. Glaring omissions.
Please show where Isiah says the earth is spherical. Science overtook bible scriptures centuries ago. The bible is not written by scientists. It is written by ancient desert tribes who had one slightest understanding of science. To think otherwise is wishful thinking and completely erroneous
@baikinmon None that I know of. They wouldn't truly be open-minded or free-thinking that way. Not only that, this video's "sources" are conservapedia links? Laughable at best.
Since you don't know what you're talking about, I recommend that you watch some vids by Aronra or Thunderf00t about evolution. You're argument is crap, your sources are garbage and your belief is foolish.
@fellowservant34: Means, that you are quite biased and don`t even realize that the pope has many scientific advisors in earthly matters The Vatican stopped opposition to evolution , because Galileo was not yet forgotten.
"don`t even realize that the pope has many scientific advisors in earthly matters"
LoL...that was quite humerous, nevertheless the Roman Catholic Church is an apostasy to the biblical christian. It's an antichrist system. The pope is a mouthpiece of Satan.
Use the seach engine, lots of good video's here on YT concerning this in detail.
@fellowservant34: You are participating sir/lady in a baseless smear campaign against the cath. church, which are your roots, if you are christian. Continue to sew discord, division, hatred, distrust emnity and we will go under together.
Where do get your nonsense ? Ever had a friend catholic ? What happened to" not seeying the splinter in your brothers eye" ?
You must be a Roman Catholic...sorry :/ what can I say in 500 charicters? I can send you some video's showing why Roman Catholocism is not christianity if that would help.
Secondly, my "roots" are in Jesus Christ and the Bible, not the RCC. The first church is the church that is recorded in the New Testament. A study of the New Testament will clearly reveal that the Roman Catholic Church is not the same church as the church that is described in the New Testament.
@lizazoon correction.... it's biblical bias, for scripture is the Word of God and the standard of Truth for every true believer. Not the heretical teachings of the papacy.
@fellowservant34 -- Not the heretical teachings of the papacy..--- There are more than 35.000 christian denominations, which mostly have their roots in Catholicism. Don`t you think 34.999 denominations are calling your denomination heresy ? Go ahead continue spreading distrust. Satan loves you.
And yes I do have friends who are in the RCC but I tell them as I tell you. This does not mean that I do not love them, I love muslims, atheists, as well as catholics, but we are commanded to expose the woks of darkness.
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
Why does it seem that any creationist/ ID'est tries to prove their argument by stating perceived shortcomings of evolution?
All we seem to hear is "creation is true because evolution fails because of blah...blah...blah."
You really need to give some evidence for your hypothesis. Bagging the other theories doesn't automatically makes yours true. It just makes you look uneducated.
Although Riddle is focused mainly on biological evolution, he is speaking about the materialist philosophy which includes chemical evolution, stellar evoltion, planetary evolution, as well as biological evolution which are all part and parcel of the over-arching worldview of naturalism.
Well I can see why they wouldnt want evolution to be true, but arguing against chemical evolution is just retarded. How do they think the sun works? Would they still doubt chemical evolution when a hydrogen bomb vaporises them in WW3?
Sometimes it seems these people want an apocalypse. Lets hope they never get control of anything more than being the definition of ignorance.
To be objective, he should be as critical about the bible/creationism theory as he is about evolution. We can see which side his bread is buttered on. He should be asking about proof of the bibles claims to keep it honest. He definately has an agenda, and it seems to be religiously based. I believe he has a degree in math and teaching, nothing concerning archeology! Lots of straw man arguments. Biased.
To be honest, everyone has a starting point even if they don't admit to it. If you think evolutionist's don't start with the idea that the world is millions of years old and that human beings evolved from lower animals from the outset, then you are are very naive. As a creationist, I readily admit that I start with the Bible, with that said, I believe real observational science has done much to validate the biblical accout while debunking evolution theory.
Validating the bible in what way? I believe what you mean to say is that science can back up SOME of the bible as historical fact while leaving much of the bible and the quran as pure imagination and not fact. The plain and simple truth is that neither of these, or other religious doctrines are founded on a little bit of truth and a lot of imagination, there is no sacred hand from the skies writing these books. You also need to accept at what time in our earths history these were written.
You cannot lump the Bible in with any other book because it is unique. The quran is a single book dictated by a single person, while the Bible is comprised of 66 books written over the course of 1500 years, it has over 40 authors who lived in different parts of the world and spoke different languages all proclaiming the same Truth about God.
And just because you may not believe many of the accounts given in scripture, does not make it imaginary, it just makes you a scoffer.
I guess scoffer is another term for non believer. Are you telling me that you believe in talking serpents, or that a man could be swallowed by a whale and survive in its belly for days, or that a burning bush can talk or even donkeys. Your right in that I do not believe many of the accounts of the bible, but I think you know why. So are you saying that the quran is not to be taken seriously because of the single author issue? And just because the bible has more authors, it is better? Elitist!
The Bible is a spiritual book given by a supernatural God. Do you really believe if God exists, he must obey the laws of physics? Why would you expect God to be limited by the very laws of nature in which he created? Miracles, signs, and wonders are a by-product and should obviously be expected when reading the accounts of Gods' interaction with man throughout history.
WOW, you do believe in talking animals and all the other references that I had made. That to me is really scary, especially if you start hearing voices that say you need to kill your son or something like that. I guess you even have your doubts since you did write "If God exists". Probably the original writers of the bible were just messing around, kind of like that Rawlings lady when she wrote Harry Potter, neither of them thought it would take off like it did, who would have thought!
I wrote 'if God exists' as a premise, then it's logcal to expect supernatural things to happen when he interacts with human beings. Not that I'm questioning his existence myself. And to say the men who wrote the Bible were probably just "messing around" proves how bereft you are of any understanding concerning not only what's contained within the pages of scripture, but a total disregard for the scholarly work done throughout the ages confirming the bibles reliability and authenticity.
So in genesis 1:25 god says how good creation is, then in genesis 6 he destroys it. Do any of you Christians have a problem with this? The all knowing, all loving, omnipotent god destroyed the earth because he didn't like the way it was going. Didn't he see this coming? Couldn't he have saved a lot of time and suffering by doing it right the first time?
Do you know how many years passed from the time God created the earth down to the flood? Why do you assume that God did something wrong in respect to creation? Did you know scripture states that Gods' redemptive plan was in place before the foundation of the world?
@fellowservant34 It's irrelevant how many years passed. God created a world he knew he was going to destroy. Any clear thinking person should have a problem with accepting this story as truth. You actually cling to this as the origin of mankind.
Yes I do cling to the Bible, it's contains the words of the living God. I don't have a problem with God judging the world because I accept the fact that he is sovereign. Secondly, to imply that you can't be a clear thinker and accept the Bible as Truth is ridiculous. The innumerable great men throughout history who held that it was true, and lived by it, proves you wrong.
Lastly, believing fish can become philosophers if given enough time, does not exactly sound like clear thinking to me.
@fellowservant34 Oh! so just because a bunch of people believe something and some of them were "great" proves something to be true. There is that issue I have with clear thinking. By clinging to the bible you actually start to loose the ability to think for yourself. That part of your brain atrophies. The "fish to philosophers" statement is an example. You just pull that garbage from creationist straw-manning of evolution. Any clear thinking person sees the absurdity of that statement.
ptango, the statement I made about great men in history was simply an example of the great many "clear thinkers" throughout history that everyone respects who held that the Bible is true, proving that clear thinkers have and do accept the Bible as Truth. But now you're pretending as if I said, because of the great men that belived the Bible makes it true... nice try.
You also accuse me of straw-manning evolution. But evolution absurdly teaches that fish like the coelacanth are our ancestors.
@fellowservant34 Why don't you find out how many of those great men, we both respect, had no choice in what they believed. Galileo,Copernicus, Da Vinci ,etc were threatened in one way or another by the church.
Once again you straw man evolution so you can try to disprove it.
I never mentioned any names because the point is so apparent, and for you to argue that you don't know of any clear thinking people throughout history that believed the Bible to be true, proves just how ignorant ungodly men are willing to be.
@fellowservant34 You know, you guys seem to have this problem a lot. When asked for specifics about your argument (like names or who actually said what) You get vague and say stuff like, "well it just is" and "it's so apparent". This isn't just confined to you, I'm actually finding it with most apologists. Your main problem is you just can't make a statement anymore and claim victory when we can't immediately respond. The info is, literally, at our finger tips.
ptango, the reason is, your argument is so nutty it's not even worth answering. It's like me saying there has never been an intelligent atheist. Do you even need to start naming people? Your comment showed a level of ignorance that it becomes pointless to even answer.
@fellowservant34 mmmmm...ok. Well why don't you restate your original argument and we will go from there. I think it's been buried in the 500+ comments somewhere. Also, I would like to know how the fossil record supports creationism.
No its doesn't teach that the coelacanth is an ancestor. It can't be as it hasn't changed from so long ago. How is it so hard to believe that small changes over time produce big changes?
..."the primitive pattern for lobed fins, which involves the ancestry of all limbs, including our own, said author Michael Coates, Ph.D., associate professor of organismal biology and anatomy at Chicago.
So according to evolutionist's, you can thank your great, great grandpa coelacanth fish for your limbs...LoL what a joke evolution is.
Yes over time that's exactly what happened. You try to make it sound like a joke by downplaying it by saying i think my great great grandpa was fish. Sounds funny yes. But unfortunately for you, there is solid evidence for this.
Exactly, so what's your argument? The very fact that you have limbs according to evolutionists is because of this fish which makes him your ancestor. Don't shy away from what you believe. He's part of your family tree.
Its not what I believe, its what I know. And there is no such thing as an evolutionist stop using that retarded word. And technically yes, we all have fish as ancestors. But those fish have long since died. I have no even remotely close relation to any living fish or anything like it.
"And technically yes, we all have fish as ancestors"
With this admission you have just contradicted yourself from earlier showing not only your lack of understanding of evolution theory, but that I was in-fact correct after all.
Now as far as your aversion to the word 'evolutionist' I can't help you there, maybe you can lobby to have it removed from the dictionary.
I didn't admit you were right. You said that the coelacanth is our ancestor. I said it wasn't, that hasn't changed. A fish in the very distance past was. What about evolution do I not understand? Please, enlighten me.
The above quote from Michael Coates, Ph.D associate professor of organismal biology and anatomy at Chicago was his comments on the coelacanth, and the origin of our limbs.
I'm aware of that. But he didn't mention the coelacanth. You did. And you said that's what "evolutionists" think. Still waiting for what I don't understand about evolution...
ScienceDaily (Aug. 1, 2007) — A 400 million-year-old fossil of a coelacanth fin, the first finding of its kind, fills a shrinking evolutionary gap between fins and limbs."
This information on the coelacanth and the origin of limbs literally everywhere proving that you don't even know what the theory you believe in teaches.
Yeah sure, and it's notorious to that atheists videos was systematicaly votebotted... You see the difference between freespeech and regular votebotting, do you ?
I seriosly doudbt christians are votebotting anything, other than atheists who cares if atheist video's have five stars or one? it's completely meaningless. What you need to worry about is the wrath of God that's over your head.
Because like most of what you believe in, you haven't searched much about before arguing. Type votebots or false DMCA in Youtube search field.
BTW, isn't there something about false testimony in your beloved book. But we both know that most "christians" don't respect what they preach. If that god existed, you christian should fear his wrath.
Atheists videos are meaningless for people who want to stay ignoramus all their live long and have no interest in science they use everyday...
ohh and i couldn't resist to look his bio, quite entertaining it is indeed ;-) sped the last 25 years arguing for creationism instead of doing some real research in his field of expertise, which is ohh wonder: mathematics ?!??
exuse me, but when learning something about carbon dating, biology, genealogy, platetectonics etc. i want a teacher who at least knows something about the subject! not a math-teacher ... THANKS
as opposed as to what many believe, what constitutes a logical deduction is defined by certain rules. i wouldn't have a problem with him saying that the evidence found around the globe in ALL fields of science points to an other premise than it does, that's in fact real science. but to look at the evidence with his "educational" background and deduce that the bible is correct is like me saying that because i had pancakes this morning, the sun will continue to shine another day!
at least it follows the same kind of "logic" he is using for his argument (!) the only difference is, that i still have to find a sheepherd consisting of at least 1 million followers and then convince everyone that my pancake will save everyone if they eat it every morning, tax-free of course ;-)
When did Mike get a doctorate ?
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
its not science if you start with a conclusion (i.e bible quote)
Bible is hearsay ( a third party reporting what God said , after the event, without supporting witness)
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
conservapedia as source ? wut ?
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
Maybe if he did more research than looking in a outdated high school textbook he would find the transitional fossils he is looking for: Archaeopteryx is one.
crazymono5 2 months ago
If the arguments for Creation are scientifically valid, why haven't any of them been submitted for scientific peer-review?
At the last count, there have been over 240,000 peer-reviewed publications demonstrating beyond any reasonable (or even unreasonable) doubt, the facts of evolution.
As far as I have found, to date, there have been no similar publications supporting creationism that have even been submitted for scientific peer-review, never mind passing it.
I wonder why this is?
Genechanger 2 months ago
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SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
This guy dont even understand evolution. First he shows a few slides where its obvious that he doesnt know what evolution ACTUALLY claims, then he starts to rage against his own ad hoc (very very very non-official) definition of evolution! How come none of these creationist idiots actually argue against what scientiests ACTUALLY say about evolution instead of their own misintepretations of evolution! I feel sad for the people actually listening and believing this bullshit... *SIGH*
Zouljab 3 months ago
I always knew that atheists were pretty dumb but the majority of atheists know that deep down in their dark hearts - they beleive their beloved BS macro- evolution crap can excuse them from their sexual and other deviances. they know its true and almost everyone sliding rowards atheism - their sexual perversion increases - possibly hard for them to admit.
whiteliketar 7 months ago
So many lies in such a short period of time, how does he keep a straight face? for one thing he forgets about the pre-Cambrian fossils of very basic forms, and then Cambrian again fish with no jaws or skeletal structures as we see in modern animals and no modern lungs, no birds, no flowering plants and the list goes on. U dont see humans with dinosaurs or even prehistoric mammals and so on. So much u can point out so little space to do so...
mrsinclair1977 8 months ago
Why does he quote mine to try and prove his point? why does he lie about whats in the fossil record?
mrsinclair1977 8 months ago
Wonder why the ratings are disabled, hmmmm?
rushncap 9 months ago
@rushncap youtube is flooded with stupid atheist's who are incappable of challenging the scientific arguments against evolution in a video like this. As a result many of them resort to abusing the ratings feature as if it were some kind of valid refutation. In fact most of the criticism of this video from atheist's have nothing to do with it's content.
fellowservant34 9 months ago
@fellowservant34 -- on the upside, we "atheist's" can spell. Oh, and that dude is a dumbass with no credentials, recycling the same old debunked crap as if he invented it.
rushncap 9 months ago
@rushncap you just proved my point. You atheist's have nothing more than ad hominem attacks, questioning credentials, and typical filthy mouths. And even if the arguments were old it's irrelevent if the arguments are sound and scientifically valid.
fellowservant34 9 months ago
@fellowservant34 you presented this man as Dr Mike Riddle. When did he obtain a doctorate ? To those who earned a doctorate in science it is very offensive for someone with no training to simple claim the title. He has a degree in mathematics and a graduate degree in education. That gives him no more qualifications to challange any science than any other person.
It is not ad hominem to challange falsely claimed credentials.
His arguments are just bad science.
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
@fellowservant34 there are no valid scientific arguments that challenges evolution. Evolution is observed extensively in the fossil record, it has been witnessed in bacteria in the lab, as well as being witnessed in humans. This really has nothing to do with atheism - any intelligent religious person understands that evolution happened and is continuing to happen today.
The reason no one is talking about the content of this video is that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.....
sugarcanegray 8 months ago
@fellowservant34 ... (cont) you just have to see the first opening minutes of this video. The theory of evolution has NOTHING to do with how the Earth formed, no how life came from non-life. Seriously, the guy should at least read a little basic science here before claiming that evolution is how the planet came in to existence. He also uses the word "idea", which is utter nonsense. It's not just an "idea", it's what 100% of the evidence is telling scientists.
sugarcanegray 8 months ago
@fellowservant34 oh and by the way, the numbers of "transitional" forms that have been found throughout the fossil record, in exactly the places and times they're expected to be (as predicted by evolutionary theory), is so high, that the notion of an "Intermediary form" is absurd. The changes between forms are so numerous and so minute as to be only noticeable over vast periods of time, which we know the Earth has lived through (thanks, carbon dating! go science!)
sugarcanegray 8 months ago
@fellowservant34 ... also, sorry to keep bugging on this but this video is a bad joke. He's talking about dogs, and he thinks God created dogs? Well actually, humans created dogs through selectively breeding wolves... Also, the quote here from Darwin alleging that he had no evidence to support his claim is cherry picking and not what Darwin meant from that statement - he had plenty of evidence, and we have even more nowadays.
Believe in God if you must, but dude, don't listen to this idiot.
sugarcanegray 8 months ago
@fellowservant34 you answered what i wanted too. i wanted to say thank you. im a clinical lab scientist. and im not popular. because i believe in God. don't care. no school can brainwash me. believe it or not, more of think its false but many are too afraid to say certain things because they want their career. im not out publishing books, *yet* so i can enjoy speaking out in a few places. God bless you. when the time comes and they realize they are wrong, it will be too late for them. ;-(
indibabs122275 4 months ago
@indibabs122275 Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and most of all that you're thinking for yourself. Bless you.:)
fellowservant34 4 months ago
You call Mike Riddle a doctor, but AnswersInGenesis and CreationWiki both say this:
"Mike holds a degree in mathematics and a graduate degree in education."
tifforo1 9 months ago
WE have HUNDREDS of examples of transitional forms in the fossil record. Christians like this bozo are going to be touting evolution as the indisputable evidence of gods existence in the near future. The debate is OVER.. In fact, there never was a debate. Creationists only WANT to believe there is a controversy here. Evolution is FACT and anyone clinging to fairy tales, like this guy is, will be seen as complete fools. Mark my words...
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@MrTruthAddict It depends what you mean by evolution. If you mean animals change over time, no one questions that, it's a fact. But if you mean these changes are without limits like in darwinism where fish over time become philosophers, then you've left science. This kind of evolution is a myth, having nothing to do with real science.
fellowservant34 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 Thanks for the chuckle, but that's like saying "I believe the sun will come up tomorrow, but I don't believe it will in the the year 2012" If you believe in microevolution, then you have just discovered MACRO evolution, because no major change occurs in a species unless there are many small changes. The scientific community does not agree with your pastor's interpretation of science. So stop listening to ignorant people and learn the truth for yourself.
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@MrTruthAddict Don’t mistake micro-evolution for Darwinian evolution. They are not related. When a Christian says they do not believe in evolution, it is not a reference to changes in specific traits. It is a reference to changes that require crossing the DNA limitations. When the facts stare evolutionists in the face, they are reduced to either insulting those who present the evidence or they must admit their world view doesn’t hold water.
P.S I know the Truth, his name is Jesus Christ
fellowservant34 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 Thats like saying days of the week are not related to months in a year. Macro evolution is nothing more than micro evolution stretched out over a long period of time. Micro evolution IS evolution, just seen on a smaller scale. It's always so easy to see when Im talking to an indoctrinated cult member. You always repeat the same tired ignorant arguments. Learn about evolution before trying to critique it. You're regurgitating old arguments used by creationists for 40 yrs
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 go see Dr Francis Collins video, "The Language Of God" He is a christian and a scientist who will explain evolution to you...
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@MrTruthAddict I know people that call themselves Christian, who deny the diety of Christ. I don't care about titles, I care about evidence which darwinian evolution has none of.
fellowservant34 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 Okay stop embarrassing yourself. Just because your cult leader says there is no proof doesn't make it true. The debate is over. In fact, there never really was a debate. Evolution is FACT. Indisputable fact. There are hundreds, if not thousands of examples of transitional fossils which prove that the theory of evolution is valid. Learn something. Start with the Dr Collins video if you need a Christian to teach you.
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 BTW, he does not deny the deity of Christ. He is a Christian. But he also KNOWS that evolution is fact and he will explain to you exactly why. He points out all the evidence and actually explains why Christians like you are making ALL christians look bad by clinging to superstition and antiquated thought.
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
What a scientifically illiterate fool.
He skipped over these bible verses never told in a fundy church.
Lev 20:9 - For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death
Lev 26:29 - And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
Deut 2:34 -And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain alive.
I could keep going...
jknengr796 11 months ago
@jknengr796 What exactly do you think the verses you posted have to do with the content of this video?
fellowservant34 11 months ago
@fellowservant34 I'm pointing out ones idiocy in treating the Bible as inerrant. If it truly is, you better kill yourself if you have ever worked on the Sabbath.
I suggest you get out of your parents basement and learn what science is all about before making ignorant statements and posting crap from scientifically illiterate Mike Riddle. He is no more qualified to talk about biology than is his qualifications to perform an appendectomy on you, or do your taxes.
jknengr796 11 months ago
@jknengr796 You've refuted exactly nothing said in this video. Ad hominem attacks, ridicule, and a poor understanding of biblical context does not constitute a good argument.
fellowservant34 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 This guy is an evangelical preacher selling his wares to an ignorant audience for profit. Nothing Ad hominem about pointing out that he is unqualified. Look up the definition.
Lev. 20:9 - "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death". Tell me about Biblical context of family values... How many thousands of other verses when cherry picked are absurd? Creationists do this all the time-but only the verses they want you to hear.
jknengr796 10 months ago
@jknengr796 Again, it's telling that you have no contextual understanding as to why this scripture does not apply to Christians, as a result, you have proven to be biblically illiterate in addition to replying to absolutely zero content in this video.
fellowservant34 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 LOL, doesnt apply to Christians? How so? I'd LOVE to hear this one. You Christians say that we are not supposed to follow the old testament because it is the old covenant and Jesus came to bring a new covenant but you conveniently pick and choose which verses you want to adhere to. homosexuality is one. Jesus never said a word about it, but you condemn gays as being hellbound perverts. Your belief system really is primitive and ugly.
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@fellowservant34 Listen to what MrTruthAddict is telling you. He makes a reasonable point. It's up to you to either be lazy or make an effort to learn about the scientific process. Biblical literalist fundamental types can't reconcile that idea that the scientific process is a way for us to figure out the workings of God's creation without prior bias. Accept it or continue to live with a bronze age understanding of the universe.
jknengr796 10 months ago
most of evolution fossil are fake.try google it.
srkkroh11 11 months ago
@srkkroh11 It's not only fake, they don't exist.
fellowservant34 11 months ago
@fellowservant34 You're lying and you know it. There is overwhelming evidence which proves that evolution is real and scientific fact. We have real evidence you can touch and feel. On the other hand, the bible is a fairy tale book which causes men to do many evil things to fellow human beings.
Your religion is evil
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
- Thomas Paine
nigelsenchez 1 year ago
@nigelsenchez exactly, so stop listening to evolutionary propaganda.
fellowservant34 11 months ago
@fellowservant34
Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages.
nigelsenchez 11 months ago
@fellowservant34 LOL, you might want to ask Dr. Francis Collins about his opinion on this subject. He is a devout Christian and he KNOWS that evolution is fact. He explains it fully in his video, (The Language of God) and demonstrates why Christians are going to lose the argument if they persist on clinging to ignorance like the guy in this video and you too obviously do.
Mark my words, in 2 or 3 years, televangelists will be claiming evolution as evidence of Gods existence. Mark my words
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
08:43 proves that the person in the video is either ignorant or intentionally deceiptful or both. The Cambrian explosion is nothing of the sort. The highest life form to come out the end of this period was fish (and jawless fish at that). It was only the major Phyla that appeared in this period which was precededed by soft bodied organisms which are less likely to leave fossils. You won't even find and amphibian in the Cambrian let alone a mammal which is a big problem for Creationists.
pilgrimpater 1 year ago
We have an embarrassment of transitionals despite the fact that fossilisation is a relatively rare process. However, transitionals per se are NOT needed to prove Evolution, they are merely a bonus. The simple fact that fossils exhibit a general trend from simplicity to complexity over geological time is sufficient not only to prove Evolution but to disprove the Biblical Creation at the same time. The fossil record is not remotely anything like that which would be expected of a global flood.
pilgrimpater 1 year ago
This guy, whoever he is, based on his comments 9:00-9:15, he should accept that his bible is false (whether evolution is false or not)!
LeanJedi 1 year ago
Evolution is PC and we know haw far scientist will go for PC just look at global warming oh I mean climate change.
glendaweil 1 year ago
Wikipedia(co-founded by an avowed atheist) goes out of its way to trash creationists on their transitional fossils page, yet when it's time to produce a list based on the many so called transitionals in existence, the list is called "very tentative" and they then go on to say quote" An ideal list would only recursively include 'true' transitionals" What!! Do you people have indisputable evidence for transitional fossils or not.
theabiotictheory 1 year ago
@theabiotictheory You're right, transitional fossils have been an ongoing and nagging problem for evolutionist's. The dirty history of frauds and hoaxes are a testiment to their lack real scientific evidence. The best thing evolution has going for it is the incredible PR machine used to convince the public of the evolutionary position by increasing and frequently using the term "overwhelming evidence" or similar terms in relation to the alleged existence of evidence that supports their position.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
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Another fraudulent academically dishonest creationist "Dr". He does NOT have an earned doctorate from an accredited degree granting institution.
He apparently has a math education bachelors degree. This does not make him qualified to discuss anything other than 11th grade algebra or 10th grade geometry. His complete lack of knowledge and ignorance of science and more specifically biology and geology are pretty apparent. What a moron!
jknengr796 1 year ago
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jknengr796 1 year ago
your kidding right? At least learn what you are trying to debunk cause now any slightly educated person knows your a moron.
fivestr1 1 year ago
@fivestr1 "your a moron."....LOL...how ironic
fellowservant34 1 year ago
I thought this was going to be serious, until I saw conservapedia was linked to in the description.
Kadiezi 1 year ago
why do you need to make a 60 minute video to answer, yes. evolution explains the fossil record.
EliasJordan3 1 year ago
how can this be more then just the single word "YES"
bjam89 1 year ago
I'm sorry but you lost all credibility in my eyes the moment I noticed links to CONSERVAPEDIA (the Mos Eisley (look it up) of the internet) in the description box.
swordhunter12 1 year ago
Numerous Micro changes add up to a Macro change......that is evolution.
Still waiting on the starlight / speed of light explanation.......
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
wow he had to tell the audience what a vertebrate and invertebrate was. was he talking to grade school kids and he got it wrong an invertebrate is an animal without a backbone not a week one if an animal has a back bone at all week or strong it is a vertebrate.He is just saying that evolution is wrong because i say so and i have a graph and it doesn't even have numbers on it (is this a joke?)
matt3tC 1 year ago
I consider myself rather open minded, but after 5 mins of watching this, it was obvious this guy has no clue. He talks about intermediate forms and states that we should see birds with half feathers and half scales. Well guess what? They still do to this day. He clearly has never looked at a live bird very closely. The body is covered in feathers, while the feet have scales. ...wait, what?
PapaCapinya 1 year ago
what credentials make this guy a Dr.?
agentc0re 1 year ago
Ah, another creationist lying piece of shit claiming there are no transitional fossils. What a surprise.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
(Exodus 21:7-11)
"& if a man sells his daughter to be a female servant, she shall not go out as the male servant do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully w her. & if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal w her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, & her marriage
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever (Exodus 21:7-11)
" If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, & her marriage rights. & if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money."
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
These are the accepted rules of slavery...........or am I reading it wrong ?
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
What about the starlight issue ? Are you questioning the speed of light or is it 186,282 MPH ? Are not supernovas the standard candle in the universe & can be used to accurately estimate distance ? Isnt the Universe about 13.4 billion years old or is the starlight we are seeing an image put there to complete the illusion? You have to think about how probable and well researched this data is. Also whether it works in a uniform manner and is repeatable, it is.
Separate Religion and Science.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
..vague to say the least. But I will play. 1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...” Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...” Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.” Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
Lets put it this way, .....people at that time thought the earth was flat.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever Again you have a very poor understanding of scripture. The word moved here doesn't mean what you think. You are looking for things to discredit the Bible. But the word moved here means pulling off from its orbit. At the very least you should consider the Bible is using a figure of speech to express the permanence of God's will and the permanence of his creation.
On your other point, there are people today who think the earth is flat, what does that have to do with the Bible?
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 ........Its very interesting that it must be interpreted in a certain way, or somehow I am missing the meaning. Is it being revealed to you in a different manner than me ? I dont think so. Your interpretation of a translated book is so different than the scientific method of proof or not believable. My point is not against Christianity, just using it (the parables in the Bible) to explain scientific processes that so obviously happened over billions of years is ridiculous.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
Go to the Creationist Museum,.........they show Dinosaurs living next to humans.
REE DICK Q LESS.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever Your problem is that you've been conditioned to believe a particular view of the world.... millions of years...evolution...the dinosaur age ect. what you could use is an education from the creationist worldview. This way you'll at least be informed and won't misrepresent the position and say things like, you can't mix religion and science. It's also obvious that you have very little understanding of the Bible, suggesting that slavery was instituted by God.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 not instituted but tolerated. How can there be no commandments for slavery ? Or rape ? Or child molestation ?
The real problem you have, is my "views" are backed by the scientific method and peer reviewed FACTS that gains further understanding in many types of science yearly. Its SCIENCE..you know the stuff we use to fly to the moon, map DNA and peer deep into space and time. What about the starlight issue ? Are you questioning the speed of light or is it 186,282 MPH ?
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
Religion is not science.....there is no mechanism in religion for proof of any aspect of creationism. Just take the word of a 2000 year old book written by people that thought the earth was flat.
Science has peer review & the scientific method. It is also self correcting & self policing by means of research funding.
Remember these are the people that told its members that dinosaurs bones were placed in the soil by God to test our faith & use of condoms is worse than spreading Aids.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever Everthing you wrote about the Bible and what Christians believe was a lie.You are completely oblivious to scripture as well as the creationist positon. I'd ask you to consider a sincere and honest study of the creation worldview, but it's obvious people like you only out to mock but not think critically.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 ,......no mock intended and I am a Christian. But I do not mix science with religion and make up facts to support the conclusions. I understand the view you have, but it is flawed because of the interaction of a true science which includes the wonder of DNA (Evolutionary Science) with the dogma of a supernatural being (Christian religion). Any serious person that believes that science is targeting them is absurd.....their world is dominated by true research, not parables..
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever How could you ridicule Gods' word and call yourself a Christian? You even said the Bible claims the earth is flat. You wouldn't know the Bible if it fell out the sky and hit you in the head. You sound about as christian as my toaster oven. Besides that, why do you keep attacking arguments that are not being made by me or in this video? FYI I love science because real science supports the Bible, unlike darwinian evolution which is nothing more than a myth.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 .......I said it was written by people that thought the earth was flat, not that the Bible says so.........I am not ridiculing Gods word, I am ridiculing people that believe that Darwinian Evolution is a myth. You simply cant mix religion and science, Do you believe the Bible word for word ? Should we allow slavery ? Or do you have to make allowances because of time ? Also what part of Bible am I missing ? Some specifics would be grand.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever Sorry but you are still incorrect, those who wrote the Bible did not think the earth was flat. As a matter of fact the prophet Isaiah who wrote his book seven centuries before Christ, described the earth as being spherical. Job, which may be the oldest book in the Bible, describes the eath as suspended in space. Science has only recently caught up to the Bible and discovered these facts.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
fs34Here are yours. shamayim means sky Job 9:8, “...who by himself spread out the heavens [shamayim]...” Psalm 19:1, “The heavens [shamayim] tell out the glory of God, the vault of heaven [raqiya] reveals his handiwork.” Psalm 102:25, “...the heavens [shamayim] were thy handiwork.” Isaiah 45:12, “I, with my own hands, stretched out the heavens [shamayim] and caused all their host to shine...” Isaiah 48:13, “...with my right hand I formed the expanse of the sky [shamayim]...”
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever When the Bible says God stetches out the heavens, what's your gripe? It's exactly what we see in reference to the expanding universe.
"How can there be no commandments for slavery ? Or rape ? Or child molestation ?"
It does, you need to read what the Bible says about manstealers, and how we are to treat our neighbors. Stop listening only to Bible mockers and scoffers. Read and listen to the christian apologist's who can give you detailed answers to your questions.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 ..........You dont think that Slavery and Child Molestation should make the top 10 ? I sure do. I think that shows more of the morals of the time (man made) versus a divine rule list (perfect intellect and knowledge). I dont think you could speak with a moral person that would not include those 2 over your pick of 2 that made the final version. Glaring omissions.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago
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@fellowservant34
"When the Bible says God stetches out the heavens, what's your gripe?"
There is no evidence any god exists, let alone that it stretched out any heavens or whatever.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@fellowservant34
Please show where Isiah says the earth is spherical. Science overtook bible scriptures centuries ago. The bible is not written by scientists. It is written by ancient desert tribes who had one slightest understanding of science. To think otherwise is wishful thinking and completely erroneous
philster61 1 year ago
@AutoBahnForever Evolution is not science either.
thebig1 1 year ago
I am a Christian and I am embarrassed for this guy. Epic fail.
bagospannerz 1 year ago
@bagospannerz Your an epic fail!!!
thebig1 1 year ago
Dr?????
CLIFFORDJENKINS 1 year ago
@CLIFFORDJENKINS Kinda like Dr. Phil.... yeah... but no.
CMNoobslayer 1 year ago
Quoting the bible as the evidence for the bible being true. Nice circular logic there, not that this guy would know what that even means.
And about transitional species: EVERY SPECIES is a transitional form of something else! This isn't rocket science. You learn this stuff in school.
byteresistor 1 year ago
"Ratings have been disabled for this video." Kind of says it all, doesn't it?
baikinmon 1 year ago
@baikinmon awwww...did I take your fun away?
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 yea I know i wonder why!!!!! I think I Know u are religious lol. and u believe in religion that god did it all.
alcaraz1963 1 year ago
@alcaraz1963 I hate religion
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@baikinmon most definitely. disabled = FAIL 99 times out of 100.
91nickt 1 year ago
@91nickt True that, and that's being generous. How many sceptic / free thinker videos have the ratings turned off?
baikinmon 1 year ago
@baikinmon None that I know of. They wouldn't truly be open-minded or free-thinking that way. Not only that, this video's "sources" are conservapedia links? Laughable at best.
91nickt 1 year ago
What an idiot. My 10 year old kid knows more about evolution than this turkey.
I doubt he is a real doctor.
bustermk2 1 year ago
Since you don't know what you're talking about, I recommend that you watch some vids by Aronra or Thunderf00t about evolution. You're argument is crap, your sources are garbage and your belief is foolish.
Epic fail.
TheSaturnalia 1 year ago
Wow this guy is wrong on so many things.
auroradamien 1 year ago
It is unfortunate that modern science contradicts certain interpretations of Genesis, but that doesn't give people the right to lie about it.
Darwin did NOT say that he had no evidence: he directly addresses the lack of transitionals right after that out-of-context quote (read the original!)
The fossil record has a multitude of intermediate froms. Fish to amphibians, amphibians to reptiles, reptiles to mammals, dinosaurs to birds, etc.
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
Does the fossil record support evolution ? YES !!!
lizazoon 1 year ago
This guys is retarded. He just skips over everything evidence actually points to and says what he wants to anyway. It's sick and dishonest.
andy16666 1 year ago
Evolution: the most miraculous,simple,efficient process of the ascend of man. No wonder the Vatican stopped all opposition.
lizazoon 1 year ago
As far as I'm concerned, the Vatican is just as dull to evolution as they are to scripture.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34: Means, that you are quite biased and don`t even realize that the pope has many scientific advisors in earthly matters The Vatican stopped opposition to evolution , because Galileo was not yet forgotten.
lizazoon 1 year ago
"don`t even realize that the pope has many scientific advisors in earthly matters"
LoL...that was quite humerous, nevertheless the Roman Catholic Church is an apostasy to the biblical christian. It's an antichrist system. The pope is a mouthpiece of Satan.
Use the seach engine, lots of good video's here on YT concerning this in detail.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34: You are participating sir/lady in a baseless smear campaign against the cath. church, which are your roots, if you are christian. Continue to sew discord, division, hatred, distrust emnity and we will go under together.
Where do get your nonsense ? Ever had a friend catholic ? What happened to" not seeying the splinter in your brothers eye" ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
You must be a Roman Catholic...sorry :/ what can I say in 500 charicters? I can send you some video's showing why Roman Catholocism is not christianity if that would help.
Secondly, my "roots" are in Jesus Christ and the Bible, not the RCC. The first church is the church that is recorded in the New Testament. A study of the New Testament will clearly reveal that the Roman Catholic Church is not the same church as the church that is described in the New Testament.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 Nuts.....Bigotry, bias.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon correction.... it's biblical bias, for scripture is the Word of God and the standard of Truth for every true believer. Not the heretical teachings of the papacy.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
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@fellowservant34 -- Not the heretical teachings of the papacy..--- There are more than 35.000 christian denominations, which mostly have their roots in Catholicism. Don`t you think 34.999 denominations are calling your denomination heresy ? Go ahead continue spreading distrust. Satan loves you.
lizazoon 1 year ago
And yes I do have friends who are in the RCC but I tell them as I tell you. This does not mean that I do not love them, I love muslims, atheists, as well as catholics, but we are commanded to expose the woks of darkness.
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
Conservapedia is the best sources you can find?
jacobromu 1 year ago
" Does The Fossil Record Support Evolution?"
Why yes - of course it does!! Overwhelmingly!
But if it didn't, the independently acquired, information from every other line of enquiry , from most every field of science, most certainly does
Tobytrim 1 year ago
03:32 QUOTE MINING!!! this method is THE most used by creationists! it's pityful and disgraceful!
after this -partial- quote ends, darwin goes on to say; "the explanation, as i believe, lies in the extreme inperfection of the geogical record".
and that, by the way, was about a 150 years ago! fossils are being found all the time, and the transformation of species becomes more clear by the day
Goddaimn 1 year ago
Why does it seem that any creationist/ ID'est tries to prove their argument by stating perceived shortcomings of evolution?
All we seem to hear is "creation is true because evolution fails because of blah...blah...blah."
You really need to give some evidence for your hypothesis. Bagging the other theories doesn't automatically makes yours true. It just makes you look uneducated.
ptango101 1 year ago
Were there Rabbit fossils dated to the Cambrian explosion?
Jonahcp 1 year ago
No wonder ratings are disabled. lolz.
Exmech2 2 years ago
All creatures before the Cambrian were soft bodies, that do not fossiise well.
Most body plans have now been identified in the late precambrian.
As sex seems to be a late precambrian developement then the emergence of greater diversity is exactly in accord with Darwin.
gamesbok 2 years ago
Evolution doesnt say anything about the creation of the earth or the start of life.
Silly creationists.
Also, the flood story is ridiculously stupid.
BlackRaptor31 2 years ago
Although Riddle is focused mainly on biological evolution, he is speaking about the materialist philosophy which includes chemical evolution, stellar evoltion, planetary evolution, as well as biological evolution which are all part and parcel of the over-arching worldview of naturalism.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
Well I can see why they wouldnt want evolution to be true, but arguing against chemical evolution is just retarded. How do they think the sun works? Would they still doubt chemical evolution when a hydrogen bomb vaporises them in WW3?
Sometimes it seems these people want an apocalypse. Lets hope they never get control of anything more than being the definition of ignorance.
BlackRaptor31 2 years ago
Judging by your comment, I don't think you know what chemical evolution is.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
What do you think chemical evolution is?
BlackRaptor31 2 years ago
To be objective, he should be as critical about the bible/creationism theory as he is about evolution. We can see which side his bread is buttered on. He should be asking about proof of the bibles claims to keep it honest. He definately has an agenda, and it seems to be religiously based. I believe he has a degree in math and teaching, nothing concerning archeology! Lots of straw man arguments. Biased.
EchosFromaBlankMind 2 years ago
To be honest, everyone has a starting point even if they don't admit to it. If you think evolutionist's don't start with the idea that the world is millions of years old and that human beings evolved from lower animals from the outset, then you are are very naive. As a creationist, I readily admit that I start with the Bible, with that said, I believe real observational science has done much to validate the biblical accout while debunking evolution theory.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
Validating the bible in what way? I believe what you mean to say is that science can back up SOME of the bible as historical fact while leaving much of the bible and the quran as pure imagination and not fact. The plain and simple truth is that neither of these, or other religious doctrines are founded on a little bit of truth and a lot of imagination, there is no sacred hand from the skies writing these books. You also need to accept at what time in our earths history these were written.
EchosFromaBlankMind 2 years ago
You cannot lump the Bible in with any other book because it is unique. The quran is a single book dictated by a single person, while the Bible is comprised of 66 books written over the course of 1500 years, it has over 40 authors who lived in different parts of the world and spoke different languages all proclaiming the same Truth about God.
And just because you may not believe many of the accounts given in scripture, does not make it imaginary, it just makes you a scoffer.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
I guess scoffer is another term for non believer. Are you telling me that you believe in talking serpents, or that a man could be swallowed by a whale and survive in its belly for days, or that a burning bush can talk or even donkeys. Your right in that I do not believe many of the accounts of the bible, but I think you know why. So are you saying that the quran is not to be taken seriously because of the single author issue? And just because the bible has more authors, it is better? Elitist!
EchosFromaBlankMind 2 years ago
The Bible is a spiritual book given by a supernatural God. Do you really believe if God exists, he must obey the laws of physics? Why would you expect God to be limited by the very laws of nature in which he created? Miracles, signs, and wonders are a by-product and should obviously be expected when reading the accounts of Gods' interaction with man throughout history.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
WOW, you do believe in talking animals and all the other references that I had made. That to me is really scary, especially if you start hearing voices that say you need to kill your son or something like that. I guess you even have your doubts since you did write "If God exists". Probably the original writers of the bible were just messing around, kind of like that Rawlings lady when she wrote Harry Potter, neither of them thought it would take off like it did, who would have thought!
EchosFromaBlankMind 2 years ago
I wrote 'if God exists' as a premise, then it's logcal to expect supernatural things to happen when he interacts with human beings. Not that I'm questioning his existence myself. And to say the men who wrote the Bible were probably just "messing around" proves how bereft you are of any understanding concerning not only what's contained within the pages of scripture, but a total disregard for the scholarly work done throughout the ages confirming the bibles reliability and authenticity.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
This is what happens when you sleep through all your science classes in highschool.
CanadiaNecro1 2 years ago
So in genesis 1:25 god says how good creation is, then in genesis 6 he destroys it. Do any of you Christians have a problem with this? The all knowing, all loving, omnipotent god destroyed the earth because he didn't like the way it was going. Didn't he see this coming? Couldn't he have saved a lot of time and suffering by doing it right the first time?
ptango101 2 years ago
@ptango
Do you know how many years passed from the time God created the earth down to the flood? Why do you assume that God did something wrong in respect to creation? Did you know scripture states that Gods' redemptive plan was in place before the foundation of the world?
fellowservant34 2 years ago
@fellowservant34 It's irrelevant how many years passed. God created a world he knew he was going to destroy. Any clear thinking person should have a problem with accepting this story as truth. You actually cling to this as the origin of mankind.
ptango101 2 years ago
Yes I do cling to the Bible, it's contains the words of the living God. I don't have a problem with God judging the world because I accept the fact that he is sovereign. Secondly, to imply that you can't be a clear thinker and accept the Bible as Truth is ridiculous. The innumerable great men throughout history who held that it was true, and lived by it, proves you wrong.
Lastly, believing fish can become philosophers if given enough time, does not exactly sound like clear thinking to me.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
@fellowservant34 Oh! so just because a bunch of people believe something and some of them were "great" proves something to be true. There is that issue I have with clear thinking. By clinging to the bible you actually start to loose the ability to think for yourself. That part of your brain atrophies. The "fish to philosophers" statement is an example. You just pull that garbage from creationist straw-manning of evolution. Any clear thinking person sees the absurdity of that statement.
ptango101 1 year ago
ptango, the statement I made about great men in history was simply an example of the great many "clear thinkers" throughout history that everyone respects who held that the Bible is true, proving that clear thinkers have and do accept the Bible as Truth. But now you're pretending as if I said, because of the great men that belived the Bible makes it true... nice try.
You also accuse me of straw-manning evolution. But evolution absurdly teaches that fish like the coelacanth are our ancestors.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 Why don't you find out how many of those great men, we both respect, had no choice in what they believed. Galileo,Copernicus, Da Vinci ,etc were threatened in one way or another by the church.
Once again you straw man evolution so you can try to disprove it.
ptango101 1 year ago
I never mentioned any names because the point is so apparent, and for you to argue that you don't know of any clear thinking people throughout history that believed the Bible to be true, proves just how ignorant ungodly men are willing to be.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 You know, you guys seem to have this problem a lot. When asked for specifics about your argument (like names or who actually said what) You get vague and say stuff like, "well it just is" and "it's so apparent". This isn't just confined to you, I'm actually finding it with most apologists. Your main problem is you just can't make a statement anymore and claim victory when we can't immediately respond. The info is, literally, at our finger tips.
ptango101 1 year ago
ptango, the reason is, your argument is so nutty it's not even worth answering. It's like me saying there has never been an intelligent atheist. Do you even need to start naming people? Your comment showed a level of ignorance that it becomes pointless to even answer.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 mmmmm...ok. Well why don't you restate your original argument and we will go from there. I think it's been buried in the 500+ comments somewhere. Also, I would like to know how the fossil record supports creationism.
ptango101 1 year ago
No its doesn't teach that the coelacanth is an ancestor. It can't be as it hasn't changed from so long ago. How is it so hard to believe that small changes over time produce big changes?
dakotadenverdexter 1 year ago
..."the primitive pattern for lobed fins, which involves the ancestry of all limbs, including our own, said author Michael Coates, Ph.D., associate professor of organismal biology and anatomy at Chicago.
So according to evolutionist's, you can thank your great, great grandpa coelacanth fish for your limbs...LoL what a joke evolution is.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
Yes over time that's exactly what happened. You try to make it sound like a joke by downplaying it by saying i think my great great grandpa was fish. Sounds funny yes. But unfortunately for you, there is solid evidence for this.
dakotadenverdexter 1 year ago
"Yes over time that's exactly what happened."
Exactly, so what's your argument? The very fact that you have limbs according to evolutionists is because of this fish which makes him your ancestor. Don't shy away from what you believe. He's part of your family tree.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
Its not what I believe, its what I know. And there is no such thing as an evolutionist stop using that retarded word. And technically yes, we all have fish as ancestors. But those fish have long since died. I have no even remotely close relation to any living fish or anything like it.
dakotadenverdexter 1 year ago
"And technically yes, we all have fish as ancestors"
With this admission you have just contradicted yourself from earlier showing not only your lack of understanding of evolution theory, but that I was in-fact correct after all.
Now as far as your aversion to the word 'evolutionist' I can't help you there, maybe you can lobby to have it removed from the dictionary.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
I didn't admit you were right. You said that the coelacanth is our ancestor. I said it wasn't, that hasn't changed. A fish in the very distance past was. What about evolution do I not understand? Please, enlighten me.
dakotadenverdexter 1 year ago
The above quote from Michael Coates, Ph.D associate professor of organismal biology and anatomy at Chicago was his comments on the coelacanth, and the origin of our limbs.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
I'm aware of that. But he didn't mention the coelacanth. You did. And you said that's what "evolutionists" think. Still waiting for what I don't understand about evolution...
dakotadenverdexter 1 year ago
ScienceDaily (Aug. 1, 2007) — A 400 million-year-old fossil of a coelacanth fin, the first finding of its kind, fills a shrinking evolutionary gap between fins and limbs."
This information on the coelacanth and the origin of limbs literally everywhere proving that you don't even know what the theory you believe in teaches.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
"The Earth 'evolved' 4.6 billion years ago"
LMAO I stopped watching this right after that.
LaingGod 2 years ago
LainingGod, is that humorous because you don't believe that scientists teach the Earth evolved into existence about 4.6 billion years ago?
fellowservant34 2 years ago
Rating disabled, already heard of peer review or frightened of truth on evolution?
Acrimonator 2 years ago
Atheists on YT are notorious for abusing this feature, especially video's critical of evolution so I don't care if they are annoyed. LOL
fellowservant34 2 years ago
Yeah sure, and it's notorious to that atheists videos was systematicaly votebotted... You see the difference between freespeech and regular votebotting, do you ?
Acrimonator 2 years ago
I seriosly doudbt christians are votebotting anything, other than atheists who cares if atheist video's have five stars or one? it's completely meaningless. What you need to worry about is the wrath of God that's over your head.
fellowservant34 2 years ago
Because like most of what you believe in, you haven't searched much about before arguing. Type votebots or false DMCA in Youtube search field.
BTW, isn't there something about false testimony in your beloved book. But we both know that most "christians" don't respect what they preach. If that god existed, you christian should fear his wrath.
Atheists videos are meaningless for people who want to stay ignoramus all their live long and have no interest in science they use everyday...
Acrimonator 2 years ago
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Acrimonator 2 years ago
The Cambrian Explosion took place over 70 to 80 million years... hardly overnight as he seems to imply. Fail.
vozuluzov 2 years ago
ohh and i couldn't resist to look his bio, quite entertaining it is indeed ;-) sped the last 25 years arguing for creationism instead of doing some real research in his field of expertise, which is ohh wonder: mathematics ?!??
exuse me, but when learning something about carbon dating, biology, genealogy, platetectonics etc. i want a teacher who at least knows something about the subject! not a math-teacher ... THANKS
Medhiv83 2 years ago
as opposed as to what many believe, what constitutes a logical deduction is defined by certain rules. i wouldn't have a problem with him saying that the evidence found around the globe in ALL fields of science points to an other premise than it does, that's in fact real science. but to look at the evidence with his "educational" background and deduce that the bible is correct is like me saying that because i had pancakes this morning, the sun will continue to shine another day!
Medhiv83 2 years ago
at least it follows the same kind of "logic" he is using for his argument (!) the only difference is, that i still have to find a sheepherd consisting of at least 1 million followers and then convince everyone that my pancake will save everyone if they eat it every morning, tax-free of course ;-)
Medhiv83 2 years ago
ok, to sum it up:
- doesn't understand the meaning of an evolutionary "common ancestor" CHECK
- doesn't understand th term "transitional fossil/form" CHECK
- assumes by default that the bible is right CHECK
- sees everywhere the "evidence" for a global flood CHECK
- has a horrible tie-taste CHECK
- thinks that the world "evolved" 4,6 billion years ago CHECK
- thinks that the fossil-record argues FOR creation
does anyone else see the correlation between illiteracy and those assumtions?
Medhiv83 2 years ago