Wing Commander 3: Intro Part 1

[yugnok]

Mark Hamill is awesome. The voice of joker.

[gitcommand]

WC3 was the reason I bought at PS2 back in the 90's.

[MrRU550]

Best game of the 90's, right there with "Night Trap". Miss you Mark, the movie sucked without you.

[aersixb9]

this game was really hard to run. it demanded more base ram, regardless of your autoexec, minus an actual nerd. ;p then windows 95 made that more convenient, games now typically work.

[Siska0Robert]

OMG Mark Hamill! D:

[Vykkdraygo713]

Luke Skywalker and Gimli in the same scene. I can die now

[MrKahlerHahn]

@Vykkdraygo713 he was not just gimli... he was also Sallah in Indy 1 and 3, Biff from back to the future is also in it :)

[Luisin88]

A chris mother fking roberts game!

[NSAThrace]

Hello my fellow Terrans, yeah wow. That was bad. I had a question. I downloaded this earlier today and I am wondering if I have the images of the four CD's in the file, how would I go about playing it on my computer? Would I need a dos box? Thanks all for your help. I *Can't WAIT* to play this again.

[viperswhip]

Angel was hotter in the 2d version :P

[velanapontinha]

I remember playing this on my 486, loading times were huge! (5 mins just for a cutscene!)

[gluband]

it's about time this series was remade on the Xbox

[orbandsis]

hey kids, it's Mark Hamill!!!!

[uvitek1]

When I saw this video today I stopped everything and started searching for the installation disc in the bottom box with old games =D

[aavallone]

Such a great game. Not as good as WC2 or WC4 but still one of the best Space Sims of all time.

[cjwright79]

This is so cheesy! I can't believe I actually beat this when I was 15.

[KeIIinator]

i think if they never made the movie. and if they just keep going with the gmaes cinematics and stuff. or just stick with the cartoons they had like the first 2. it would be good to see it come out around this time as an 90s anime style of a movie like treasure planet or Titan A.E. or a transformers style of CGI to make it good

[mokook]

Fun Fact : the female enginer had sex with john holmes

[Crusader2010]

Fun fact: Paladin is played by John Rhys-Davies, who later played Gimli in LOTR. :)

[Novacoma]

Also can we all agree that the intro is so SW wannabe.... first the big the ships, then the scrolling down the to planet. And the scene with Angel reeks of Leia in front of either Vader or Tarkin. Don't get me wrong i loved the WC games..it's just. yeah. So glad that FMV in video games died with the 90's. However for all the silliness of such a project, Hamill and Rhys-Davies did a fine job.

[Raguleader]

@Novacoma I think being a well-done Star Wars wannabe was always kinda the point of the Wing Commander games. I mean, hell, they even got Mark Hamil to play a fighter pilot who lives on a farm on a desert planet :-D

[Novacoma]

man the acting from whoever was playing the kilrathis was AWFUL. The cheap costumes didn't help but still.

[DevilMaster]

@Novacoma What I dislike the most about the Kilrathi is the voice acting. You'd think that creatures like them would have deep growling voices, not hoarse voices with few growls overdubbed on them.

[simon1234simon]

i never understood why, oh why they didn't use this cast and style for the movie.

[Wraithbored]

Wing Commander, Privateer, Freespace I wish there were more games like that being made.

[nap007rz]

will we ever see games with such grand live action videos again? (CnC short videos don't count lol)

hmm imagine this game being made with X3:TC engine or even more advanced engine + full HD live action videos.

[Hotshotter3000]

I love how Mark Hamill winds up being not one, but two sci-fi heroes. Incidentally, both are good pilots. Luke, the destroyer of the Death Star, and Christopher Blair, the guy who turned the tide of the war. According to official trivia, he's the 11th highest scoring pilot in Confed. Maniac was 14th. The rest on the top 20 were dead.

[nicholasthetaylor]

I love the way it looks like they're looking at the spaceship exploding in horror, but when the camera flicks to their faces, they just look underwhelmed and bored by the effects XD

[radams36]

@nicholasthetaylor

Uhm, try again, dude.

They are EVALUATING the wreckage that has been discovered (JUST as the dialogue states, if you're paying attention), NOT watching it just now blow up. Those explosions are just small continuing explosions (probably ammo and/or fuel blowing up), not the overall wreck of the ship. They are not UNDERWHELMED or BORED, as the dialogue also makes ABUNDANTLY clear, they are war-weary and discouraged.

So wipe that smirk off your emoticon.

[nicholasthetaylor]

@radams36 Whoa, get a grip! This is the bum shit!

[SEF6519]

omg I REMEMBER THIS SHIT!!! =D

[Theriot6592]

Holy shit, is that John Rhys-Davis next to Mark Hamill?

[radams36]

@Theriot6592

Indeed it is. Game also has Malcolm McDowell and former porno actress Ginger Lynn (whom I have met), and also Tom Wilson (Biff from the Back to the Future movies, and whom I've also met - really nice guy).

[ands181]

Loved this game!

[levethane]

classic game!

[dunetiger]

Man the Kilrathi costumes are so phenomenal in this one. They were so awful in WC4.

[JheakrynaKyAlur]

wooohoooo it's luke Skywalker!

[cero815]

Kilrathi look like the apes from planet of the apes.

[NotASocialCommentary]

Ah, one of the best fucking game series ever. Whatever happened to good storytelling?

[cero815]

@NotASocialCommentary there is even better stroytelling than this meanwhile.

[samusaran11]

Amazing on how they got such a amazing Cast.

[Skinnyoompalumpa]

luke skywalker and BRIAN BLESSED

[Stigmatainmypants]

@Skinnyoompalumpa ...err John Rhys-Davies...

[infected48]

hello! does anyone know how to install this game on windows vista:S ? would be very happy if anyone could help.

[Dimbo]

I for the life of me, can not get this game to run on Dosbox on my PC

but it runs perfectly fine on my Mac with the Boxer Dosbox program. go figure

[Marwarluigi]

The music sounds like banjo-kazooie.

[Stigmatainmypants]

I've always loved the line "HER LAIR MATE IS THE HEART OF THE TIGER!"

Oh this game truly is one of the greats.

[GreenFenril]

This was my first WC game I ever played, and I want to play it again, is there A) A way I can download this game and B) Will it run on Windows 7, or do I need some form of VM to run it?

[KrassoSzoreny]

Attack of the muppets!

The Kilrathi puppet-suits in this game get an A+ for effort......but the animated versions from WC2 have aged better.

Awesome game btw,

[yorkieguy18]

One thing I don't get is how the Concordia is 'suddenly' found on Vespus destroyed. A bit of a shame that it missed a bit of continuity there, having just watched the end of WC2 - Special Ops, the Concordia was fine? And Angel was also aboard then.

[danieldeath4]

quite a few years probably passed before the Concordia died and WC2- Special Ops. I do not believe the Hellcats and Arrows were available at that point in time, so naturally it would be years later.

[shuboy05]

McDowell was unavailable because he was doing Fantasy Island (the re-imagined series) at the time. If he didn't have prior commitments, McDowell would have played Tolwyn in the movie.

[Golfshooter]

my favorite game on the playstation back in the day

[Drogmir]

Could you imagine how much better Star Wars would have been if Mark Hamil was sporting his Wing Commander beard?

[DreadwindsGhost]

Ahhhh, Ginger Allen. This is about the only thing I've seen you in that doesn't involve...well, y'know.

[Mekkes76]

Epic game.. brings back memories.. I used to play this on a Pentium 90Hz processor with 8Md RAM ! No I am not kidding!

[jblue2000]

Hey! That's Luke Skywalker!

[Hotshotter3000]

It's interesting that Mark Hamil plays TWO legendary Sci-Fi heroes. Christopher Blair and Luke Skywalker.

You know what's the similarities? Both are kick ass pilots!

[Kachukeland]

@jblue2000 and Macbeth from Gargoyles!

[corey1690]

@jblue2000 And the other guy is Gimli from Lord of the Rings! :D

[SaintPatrick33]

I forgot Gimli was in this!

Loved this game.

[ThakrothNarKira]

I really miss the games,are there any files for Ubuntu, I found the Privateer, it works great with wine, but over the years I've lost a lot of old great games like this. Is there a place to find them?

[xander900]

damn this game brings back so many memories...good times.

[counternub40]

I have this on my pc :D do you need dosbox?

[DaveCaspermeyer]

DOSBox seems to work best. You have to use the mount command with mount x x:\ -t cdrom where x is the drive letter.

[counternub40]

Ok thanks i can't wait to play this :D

[counternub40]

Erm ive mounted the drive but i dont know what to do now.

[DaveCaspermeyer]

I think all you need to do is to run install. The filename would be either a .bat or .exe file.

[counternub40]

Theres an install file which is a .TRE is that any different or is it still fine. But i have 4 discs so im not sure if its on any others or just on disc 1

[DaveCaspermeyer]

I just checked the first CD. I do believe that running WC3.Exe does an extraction to the hard disk. Try that, and you will probably get the game to install.

[counternub40]

ok ill try that

[chrcoluk]

great game and yes they dont make games like this anymore

[MKDAWUSS]

Yep. They should go back to using FMVs a bit more. I know these cutscenes are now showing their age (like obvious greenscreening), but it's something that's enjoyable. Makes it a lot more movie-like, which is something this game did.

[region1111]

What an awesome game. They don't make 'um like this no more.

[DefendinMyBase]

@region1111 Plumber's Don't Wear ties was made around this time for the same system...let's be glad they don't. It IS the worst game ever, mainly because it's NOT a game.

Aren't rants fun?

[region1111]

@DefendinMyBase

"Aren't rants fun?"

Not as fun as doing your mom ;-D

[DefendinMyBase]

@region1111 Hmm....I made a joke similar to that as an afterthought to someone I knew....his mom had died in a car crash not too long before that.....he wasn't happy...I felt like a douche.

Be a little more mature please? You never know what the situation is.

[region1111]

@DefendinMyBase

"Be a little more mature please?"

The pot is calling the kettle black my friend.

[DefendinMyBase]

@region1111 What was immature about my sentences? A little comedic at first with the rant...but not really immature. Pardon me, why are we arguing about this?

[region1111]

@DefendinMyBase

"Pardon me, why are we arguing about this?"

Yes, good question. Maybe you should go away.

[DefendinMyBase]

@region1111 ...sigh. Very well.

[pstiver]

I always thought that the Wing Commander series would have made a great RTS like Imperium Galactica 2.

[Stigmatainmypants]

I always thought that how the fighters fly RIGHT into the chamber was just absolutely epic.

[sussyfran]

OMG I GET A WEIRD FEELING OF MY CHILD HOOD, reminds me of the days i Played X-Wing Alliance and Tie Fighter, haha wish they had games like these in our days!

[night524]

What's amazing about these games, WC3 and 4, is that they were made during the time before the emergence of all the fancy video cards and everything, where these games could run purely on SOFTWARE and they still look amazing considering the technology back then.

[radams36]

@night524

Well, not exactly - the video cards of the day were not anything like today's, of course, but I had to buy a new motherboard to accommodate the required local bus video to run the game. Local bus video was not really mainstream yet, it was somewhat 'cutting edge'. But WC3 did run on a 486/33 (official minimum spec was 486/66, but it ran pretty well on the 33 MHz that I had at the time).

But your overall point, that they looked amazing considering the state of tech then, is spot on.

[nap007rz]

@night524 + how they did the FMV with full blown holywood cast and long length... unlike, example, final fantasy/ metal gear solid CG/game engine crap...

[wolfstarchaser]

I wish they'd remake this with more modern graphics.

I loved the ability to "Alpha strike" missiles from all hardpoints at once...

[Hiraghm]

They did... it's called "Freespace".

[wolfstarchaser]

I honestly felt Starlancer was closer to the original WC formula.

[zacutak]

its like a bad sci fi channel movie

[wolfstarchaser]

it's a cutscene from a fifteen-year-old computer game.

At the time, it was awesome. It was also about the only reason one might justify buying a 3DO.

[powerofktulu]

please. I had a PC for WC3. I had a 3DO for Return Fire

[Hiraghm]

Glad I never played Wing Commander 3. Hated the movie.

Of COURSE the only one worthy of being called "warrior" would be a SPLITTAIL.

Gawd I hate PC.

[mutfol]

Just one question: Why did you watch this clip at all? Turn off your PC (which you hate) and get a life!

[Hiraghm]

Duh... I watched the first part of it because I haven't yet played WC III, and wanted to learn a little about it. I didn't like what I learned.

And just because I don't like Political Correctness doesn't mean I hate my Personal Computer.

Why don't you turn off YOUR PC and grab a book, preferably one written before 1960?

[Hekynn]

I hope they do another Wing Commander I mean their working on a new Mechwarrior project right now! :)

[muffinness69]

selling my copy of wing commander 3 + 4 im sure some of you would like them?

my ebay name is muffiness1994

[Larommi71]

I still have this game on 3D0.  I might have to dig it out.

[Stigmatainmypants]

"Her Lair Mate is the HEART OF THE TIGER!"

So Epic. I love this game. My favourite of all-time.

[He101A]

These big cats are a noble race.

[Surfer041]

I must say its nice to know there are other wing commander fans out there. You really know your stuff. I thought the movie was a giant disappointment. It should have followed the events of wc3. How cool would it have been to see the bombing run on Kilrah?

[wolfpackvisual]

HOW can you turn PALADIN into a frenchman?? He's SCOTTISH.  spluh

[Surfer041]

Thats right, the concordia is the battle group which defeated the kilrathi invasion attempt in the movie. I believe the tiger claw is brought up in the movie.

[vampire96blood]

The gaming world needs more games like this one.

My formula:

Great story + great characters + Good graphics = EPIC GAME

[QuentaSilmarillion]

@vampire96blood

Great story + great characters + good graphics = Mass Effect

[onehitwonderhk]

look missed intro, I still own a original set of this game. 3CD!

[deuxhardboiledeggs]

this was one of my first playstation games. great memories.

[VectorOmega]

Out of curiosity, would Bruce Boxleitner also be suited for the Col. Blair character?

[Saiko47]

Why does Paladin remind me of gimli?

[dajingo]

Saiko47, it's the same actor John Rhys-Davies.

[wolfstarchaser]

Who is also the voice of Prince Thrakhath, the Kilrathi in the blue cape.

[DaveCaspermeyer]

John Rhys-Davies. Obviously either a disguised voice or modulated.

[radams36]

@DaveCaspermeyer

Modulated - the Making Of CD or VHS tape (I forget which) showed him recording the dialogue for Thrakhath. He made it a bit growly and gravelly, but not to the point heard in the game.

I still have the Making Of tape and CD (somewhere), the film tin from the Deluxe Edition, the calendar (I think), and the fantastic T-Shirt. Tom Wilson was good enough to autograph my film tin for me.

[mm3guy]

Hello, Kotaku!

[anshumang1]

Truly a relic from gamings golden era.....

[SandsOfTime3]

I was wondering the same damn thing when I was watching the movie. 5 minutes in I started to think "...wait...where is Mark Hamil...?"

If they had just used the same people, I would have been able to tolerate sitting through the entire movie in the theater. I am hoping, though, that getting the actors from the game was not possible. At least if that was the case, I would be able to accept the crappiness of the movie. :\

[POLE7645]

From what I heard, they wanted to use the original actors (including Malcolm McDowell), but they had scheduling conflicts (although Mark Hamill had a small voice-over cameo).

I wonder how David Warner did as Tolwyn. I love Warner's work, but I can't really imagine anyone other than McDowell.

[imperialpod]

I read that Roberts was adament he wanted new actors for the project and had no intention of re-using the game cast.

BIG MISTAKE if that was the case.

Makes you wonder where the 30 million went!

[POLE7645]

Guess he wanted the characters to look younger since WC1 (basis of the movie) is set 20 years before Wing Commander IV.

[Revan2908]

Wing Commander is the one and only time I can honestly say I regretted paying to watch a movie.

[Ashroof91]

i totally agree

[imperialpod]

Why oh why couldn't they have made the film like this, same people, same script?

[Surfer041]

the film takes place before the events of WC3. The ship in the film is the tiger claw, they same ship that is seen in the background in the intro. Angel is blair's CO in the movie