I saw the video when she left to pick up the second set of octuplets. There were only a few out there and apparently the police were called in to let them know Nadya was bringing home her other babies, therefore the cops were there to see that they got home safety. Paparazzi were asked to leave before Nadya arrived, jeangrey. Watch the video! And no her children shouldn't be taking away from her. Why? Because CPS, her lawyer, spoke person, a judge, Dr. Phil all said Nadya was a good mother.
When she brought the second set of babies home, cops were out there directing and blocking traffic and wouldn't let any paparazzi or ppl come through the block. They even showed that part... Nadya said they would't let them through until they explain to them it's Nadya and the babies. They didn't want what happened with the first two to happen again.
The Duggers are very different from Nadya. They conceived all their children naturally. They also have the financial means to take care of them. I come from a big family and have several children of my own. A large family is a wonderful thing, but being a mother especially with a lot of little ones takes a lot of dedication and sacrifice. I hope Nadya can rise to the challenge.
quess who's home raising all the rest of her little ones? Sure as heck not JB because he's supposedly at the hospital with Michelle laying across her bed talking into camera thanking fans UGH! That's right... it's her elder girls. Home school has come to a complete halt, not that they ever have it anyway, since they spend 9/10 of the time traveling to free invited trips here and there. I can go on and on about these Duggars whom imo is no better then Nadya or anybody else for that matter. jmo
People are downing Nadya for having Nannies to help her raise her kids. Well um the JB&M are using their elder girls to raise every single one of their little kids, she calls it "The buddy system" and in that "Buddy system" is the word "Jurisdiction" which mean all Michelle has to do is remain barefeet and pregnant while JB rides around in all his new vehicles until he's ready to knock Michelle up again. Look at Michelle now, up in the hospital with a 1lbs 6oz. baby...
When you think about it, the Duggar were and still is in some way same as Nadya. They too are using the Government but in a different way. They don't pay taxes on their land their 7000sq foot home sits on because JB claimed it as a church, so anything brought for that home oops church is tax deductable, not to mention getting tax credit for each additional kid they have. Whose paying all those taxes if the Duggars aren't?
Hi MommyGracie, explain to me again how the Duggar are any better then Nadya and how do we 100% know Michelle and JimBob Duggar didn't use a turkey baster and not have 20 kids naturally?
If you read my comment I said that the Duggars were different from Nadya. You added the "better" and of course we can't know 100% how Michelle and JimBob conceived each of their children. However, I think that you are familiar enough with the Duggars beliefs to know that it doesn't fit with them.
Point being, I have caught the Duggar in many lies. They are totally hypocrites and liars. They also contradict themselves repeatedly. I can't be 100% sure they didn't use some other means for Michelle to get pregnant or not. But I do know this... This does not make The Duggar any better then the Gosselin, Hayes or the Suleman family. With the exception of welfare, they were all in the same boat. All use reality TV to support their large family. Those are the facts! Nothing to do with beliefs.
I don't believe that the Duggars are any better then those other families you mentioned or Nadya. I believe Nadya loves her children. There is really only one problem that I have with Nadya, and it is that I believe children need a father, not a sperm donor. I'm a little old fashion I guess, but I just believe that If you don't have a man in your life who will be a father to your kids then you don't need to have kids.
Excuse me MommyGracie. This world (America) in general is made up of dead beat dads, absent dad, dead daddy's, unfit daddy and daddy's whom are in jail. And same applies to mother's. Where is it written that a child has to have both a mommy and daddy in order to grow up wise, smart and intelligent and to make something positive of their lives? I once knew someone who grew up with both God fearing working parents and he rob an armor truck and is in a Federal prison right now as we speak.
True, there are many, many children who have to grow up with fathers or mothers who are absent in one way or another, and the children who do grow up in those situation grow up to be wonderful adults a lot of the time. Also children with two parent often don't always turn out good. However, there have been many studies done that show that children who do have to good parents growing up do tend to grow into more well adjusted adults. It's not a rule, and there are exceptions, but it is best.
Um Jeffrey Domer had two parents growing up in his home. Look what became of him.
Then there was the Menendez Brothers. I mean the list is endless Mommy. It doesn't matter if there are two parents in the home or one. Children will grow up to be what is in them regardless. Their human-being and have their own minds and way of doing things. Children mistakes are not their parents fault. mo
Like I said before their are exceptions both ways, and of course once adults people make their own choices. I'm not sure if you believe in God or not, so I'm not sure if this means anything to you, but I believe there was a reason that God made it so it took a man in a woman to create a child, and that both a mother and a father play a vital role in raising a child.
Well I do believe in God, I believe there is a higher being then ourselves. I won't get into this but FYI Adam and Eve weren't married and they even split up and went their seperate ways once they bitten the forbidden fruit (apple). Joseph and Mary had never had sex and Mary born ONE child of God. How (mystery) lol God did not raise that child, he gave the child (Jesus) to Mary and Joseph to raise as the story goes. Jesus did not have any children.
Adam and Eve were married. The wedding traditions we have now did not exist back then, but God created Eve to be the wife of Adam. Essentially they were married by God.
Oh... whom married them? Like who said the vows and what not? I know all about how God took dust and created a man and breath life into his nose, then put Adam to work in the Garden, which Adam couldn't do alone. Then he put Adam to sleep and from Adam ribs he created a wo-man. But being married, now that's something new. lol
Genesis 2:21-24 tells us And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.And Adam said: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man. Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his WIFE, and they shall become one flesh.
Ooooh yeah.. I heard about that too Gracie. He put Adam to sleep and from his rib he made Eve. But I never knew anything about them being married. Did they even know what marriage was back then? I mean they never even slept with each other yet alone saw each other naked until they ate the bad apple. Never did get that part anyway. Why would God put an bad apple tree in the Garden of Eden anyway? lol I think they called it the tree of knowledge or something. I don't know...
As for Adam and Eve splitting up after the fall, I'm not sure where you got that from.
Jesus is a unique situation because He is both God and man. God gave Joseph, the husband of Mary, the job of being an earthly father to Jesus. But Jesus also had a close relationship to His heavenly Father, God. If you read the bible Jesus talks about His Father God, and talks to him through prayer. They did have a relationship during His time on earth.
I Then it goes something like God came to them and punished them by telling Eve she would have pains during labor and I forgot what kind of punishment Adam got. Then he kicked them out of the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve had a bunch of kids etc... There was talked that Eve children once older slept with one another and had kids of their own and so. Didn't Cain killed his brother over a girl? I really don't know to much about this stuff... Just what I heard basically.
don't know... I heard it somewhere, that after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple, they saw for the first time they were naked and covered themselves.
Cain did kill his brother, but not over a girl. You really should read more of the bible if you want to use it to make points. God put the tree in the garden so that people would have the right to choose to do good or evil. He wants us to choose to love and serve Him, not to do it because we have no other choice. God knows everything, and he knew that Adam and Eve would choose not to obey Him, he also knew that he was going to create a way that they could be forgiven for their sins.
Who was using it as a point? I do believe I asked you a simple question Gracie. Didn't Cain killed his brother? That's all I asked... And I don't have to read up on anything. It's so far back that no one cares but you. You brought it up, I just added on by taking your lead and asking you a simple question. I am not nor have I ever claimed to be a Bible thumper.
God punishment to Eve was to suffer during period, birth labor and as I said, I don't recall what Adam punishment was. Then he kicked them both out of the gardan of Eden and left them to fend for themselves. The fact that they had bitten that apple strip them of purity and gave them thirst for knowledge to choose right from wrong, good from evil. Now I could be wrong about all this. But I'm just telling what I heard and it's only what I have heard.
Okay, here's what I heard, Adam & Eve knew nothing. God control their every thought since he created them. Then God put that forbidden apple tree smack down in the middle of that beautiful Garden and told them both not to eat from it. We'll never know why he put that tree there. I heard, God didn't give Adam and Eve the right to choose good and evil until they ate the apple. He was furious and opened their blinded eyes. They saw they were naked and hid themselves with bushes to hide themselves.
Adam's punishment was that he would have to work hard his whole life to get food from the ground. God did not control Adam and Eve's every thought when they were in the garden. He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden, and told them they could eat from any tree in the garden except that one.
Why not just give that to them, why not teach them? Instead of putting it there and say look, I put an evil tree there, don't eat from it or you would surely be born to die and know and wonder all life secrets and mystery. Makes no sense to me. I'm still trying to figure out where God came from. LOL We all know where Jesus came from? Big old life mystery that will never be answered until death do us. But anyway. Thanks for telling me about Adam punishment. :)
To be honest I don't totally understand it either. I just trust tyhat God is wiser than me, and that He knew what He was doing. Like you said, some things we won't understand until we get to Heaven.
That's the point I was trying to get to. Far be it for me to question God. But why would he start all this by putting a forbidden tree there from the get? If he wanted them to have knowledge and know good from evil.
Eventually they did choose to eat from it, and their eyes were opened. Before that they were like children, they didn't fully understand good and evil, but they knew God had told them not to and they had a choice to obey him or not to.
they hung Jesus on the cross with nail right along with a thief and a liar I believe? Jesus could have saved himself. But he knew he had came to earth with a mission. To die for our sins like his (our father) wanted... I'll never understand that part, but so it is written. lol But I heard it rained for 40 days and 40 nights after Jesus death that Good Friday and that he rosed on Easter Sunday morning. Whoa, how did we get on the subject of this?
I don't totally understand it either. But the punishment for sin is death. Because we all have sinned we would have to die and go to hell. But God loved us, and wanted us to be able to spend eternity with Him, so He sent Jesus to take on our punishment. That is why Jesus was hung on a cross, by two thieves like you said. But because He is God he did not stay dead, He rose again after three days.
Back it up there. I haven't sin... I haven't broken not one 10 Commandments. Not one. The sins of Adam and Eve is crush upon our heads and those who brake the 10 Commandments are the true sinners. But like they say... We are born sinners, thanks to this Adam and Eve, God has created.
Really, you've never lied, you've never been envious of what someone else has, you've never used the name of God disrespectfully? Wow, you're doing better than me, because I sin every day. Don't get me wrong, I try not to, but mess up a lot.
Where is it written that Thou shall not lie? And were is it written that being envious is a sin?
Do you mean like saying OMG? Well usually I would type it Oh my God. But I thought what they mean by not taking the name of the Lord thou God name in vain meant, not to use God names to selfishy make excuses for your wrong doing or evil behavior and not to use the word God Dam! Though I say Got damn! lol We're human, we're suppose to make mistakes.
"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor" essentially mean that if you've ever said anything that wasn't true about someone you've broken that commandment. "You Shall not covet" to covet is to envious or want something that isn't yours. Your definition of not taking God's name ib vain is right, but it also means not using it in any way that is not honoring to God.
Blessively, I don't know my neighbors. They're never home and always traveling over seas. I can't say I never lied to protect some one from harm, for instant: (like someone bf is after their gf to do bodily harm to them and I hide them out in my home, I would tell that bf of hers, she's not there) but to flat out lie to hurt someone. I don't think I ever done that. I never stolen anything in my life. I pay for what I want or ask can I have it. I don't clame to be a saint or perfect. But... lol
You did say that you had never sinned, which would make you perfect. Don't misunderstand me I'm not trying to say that you are a horrible person. I'm sure you are a wonderful person who is trying to live a good life. I'm just saying that everyone has sinned, it's human nature. That's why we all need forgiveness.
LOL oh oh, then I must've lied unintentually. By way of sin meaning I never had no other God before him. I never made God of an image and praise it. I don't ever recall using God name in vain. I remember Sunday and keep holy. I never dishonor my parents, I never stole anything, never kill, never committed adultery, and I don't think I ever bare false witness or convet anything that is thy neighbor. Did I cover it all? Oh well... lol
Cute pictures. But let me make something very clear to you. I do not hate Nadya. Yes, I disagree with some of the things she has done, but I do not hate her or anyone else for that matter.
Oh sorry I left that impression. I posted this on a lot of Nadya videos page. I just wanted to show not just you but to all, these photos of Nadya spending time with her childen. So many were saying she was an unfit mother and doesn't spend anytime with her kids because she's always shopping. So not true and I just figure I share those photos that this nice person was kind enough to share with me. These are the second one he has done. I didn't mean to imply you were a hater of Nadya. :)
@MsSarcia ...are you related to Nadya? Just asking 'cuz it seems odd that some someone would just give photos of her + the children to a stranger. Just saying
Oh btw... The nannies in these photos are after AIW and Gloria Allred were kicked out of Nadya home, children and life. She and the kids look so happy together.
AIW lied on this woman, they were evil and only out to control Nadya and to have those babies taking away from her. That was their mission from the start. :)
You are right we are human we do make mistakes. Gos knows we will mess up and sin, that's why He created a way that we could still get to heaven in spite of our sin, and He is always ready to forgive us if we ask Him to.
LOL well I'm in no hurry to meet my maker, that's for sure. Tho I believe we all are a book of life. We're born with it... Once our book is open, our lives began.. we learn, move on and then our book close by way of death. End of story and if God willing, I rather live to be 900 yrs old like Adam. Funny how that works huh? No man has ever lived pass 150 that I aware of. And why do ppl get old and wrinkle in old age? Who invented numbers that has no end and months that can't be added on?
Did you ever know that you can dig as deep as you can go and never reach the bottom of the earth? Ever wonder why you can't reach up and touch the heavens above? What is really under the sea ground and how deep does it go and how could it hold all that water without caving in? What's holding the the stars, moon and sun up there? lol What's beyond the space cloud? Man I got questions out of this world... lol
Yes!! But until then I'm content to trust Him for the parts that I don't understand. Like my little son who is only two, he can not understand always why I tell him to stop or tell him no, or make him eat food he doesn't like, but he has to trust me, and obey, and someday he will understand.
Some people would say that even God made a mistake when he punished Adam and Eve. Through them we have murders, rape, child molestation, robbery, stabbing, crack and so on... All because of two people sin, we all got punished. Though God did tried to correct his mistake through Jesus. We're all still doom to failure! lol
God had to punish Adam and Eve when they sinned because God is just and He can not let sin go unpunished. Sin was in the world before Adam and Eve though. I'm sure you've heard of satan...
Well I never want to cross God that's for sure. Lucifer did and look what happened to him. OUTCH! lol You know he was once an angel toss out of heaven becaus he thought he was better then God and turned against God. Like to know where he came from too, since God created Adam and Eve first? They say our God is a jealous God. So wow...
Going back to the story of Adam and Eve satan disguised himself as a serpent and talked to Eve before she ate the forbidden fruit and told her that if she ate it she would be like God. He tempted her because wanted Adam and Eve and therefore all mankind to fall. Satan was at one time an angel of God, however he decided that he wanted to be greater than God. Because of that he was banished from heaven. He hates God and his desire is to pull as many people away from God as he can with his lies.
Yes, I know about satan. Where the heck did he come from? One story they're telling us Adam was the first man God ever created and then another Lucifer. Dag you just said what I said about satan. Sorry, I started from the bottom responding to your comments and didn't see your first one until now.
Like you and I both said Satan was an angel. God created the angels too, some time before He created humans. Hehe, my comments are always to long, so I have to break them into parts sometimes.
When I make to heaven. I'm sure to ask God who is he? Where did he come from? And why he created this earth and man kind? What are roaches, flies and other useless insects, waterbugs and ants for? When did he created animals and why he created dinasaurs... Oh boy this could take life time eternity to ask him all the questions man can't answer. lol
Jesus the Son, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all God. It's like liquid water, steam, and Ice are different forms of water, but they are all H2O.
But I understand now. You lost me there for a moment. lol because I was like now how could God be Jesus unless he transform himself into an innocent baby?
There was a thunder storm after Jesus died, and the sky became black, but it did not last 40 days and 40 nights. You are thinking of the flood in Noah and the ark.
Adam and Eve which their sins were passed on to everyone... Hope I'm not confusing you here. lol God figure he were try to save souls by having people help themselves. He must born his son Jesus to represent him to the world to save us all from our sins so that we may have enternal life with him. Giving us that second chance. Of course many wasn't hearing it. The world was to far gone and they found Jesus to be a threat and a liar of some souce...
Years later, the population grew (which is why many today say we are all brothers and sisters because Adam & Eve children mating with each other and so forth.) Fast forward to when Jesus was born. Things were pretty much getting out of control back then. Man has build temples and impires and became Kings and Queens etc. They rob from the poor and defenseless and became rich and powerful. God wanted to try and clean up the mess he made by condemning
Now about this forgiveness and sin thing. God is the one that gave Adam & Eve the choice to choose from evil and good and right from wrong when they bit that apple from the tree God had planted.
But what's done is done now, and what's important is that her children are loved and cared for, and if the government or tv shows are what's going to make that happen then that's what needs to be done.
Exactly... which is why I don't see why ppl is beating up on Nadya because she want to do a documentary on children and her self. Hayes, Gosselin and Duggar are all doing it. But because Nadya wants to earn a living doing this. She's an unfit mother who is exploiting her children and should have them taking away from her? That's BS! :)
Agreed, if you start taking children away everyone who has put their kids on tv, well it just wouldn't work. I wouldn't do it with my children, but, if other people choose to it's up to them, and if it's a choice between that and having your children homeless and starving to death then I would say choose that.
How bout putting your kids in harm? Which is what even Nadya admitted doing when the newborns came in. Letting newspeople in without masks. How bout negligence? She states shes working out 2 hours a day right? She said it herself in a magazine. How many hours does that leave for sleep and her 14 kids. Ever wonder why the Government limits the amount of caretakers per child? COMMON FLIPPIN SENSE!
No one could have foreseen what was going to happen that night. But she did correct the problem. Thanks to the police dept. they blocked off the interception and street when Nadya came home with the next two and so forth. Did you see Nadya open her door to anyone? They were there when she got there, and most of them had pushed their way in anyway. jeangrey, what are you talking about? LOL
Nadya also stated that she didn't think there were going to be mobs of ppl at her home when she got home with the kids. As they weren't all in front of home when she left to go pick up the two babies.
8. Why not volunteer right here in their own back yard, country where their services are needed too? No, I'm not just talking about invited volunteer either... The Duggar will make nice and smile for the public, because they need you to keep their show on air. But don't for a second delude yourself into thinking they would invite you into their sick twisted world other then to watch them. Unless you are white, in their circle of friends and have multitude of kids like them.
7. JB help him into TLC because the Wilson father, help him build their home and basket ball court in the yard. It's all about the money with these people and if it wasn't for TLC. JB be still out there hustling trying to make ends meat and more then likely would end up on welfare himself. Hard to believe 19 kids, no job and they wouldn't go hungry. Duggar don't care about outsiders. Sure they go to El Salvador, but what exactly do they do there beside help serve food?
6. Why not get paid for them. And that's exactly what they have done. The more kids they have, the more they get paid and get tax exempt for each of them. And to help THEIR friends The Wilson and Bate out, because they need money too... As you often here the Bate father keep saying their cutting tree down business is slow. TLC decided to cover and pay the Bates for every episode they are in thanks to JB. Because you know for sure they aren't doing it for free. And the same applies for the Wilson
5. But he ran out of funds and the house couldn't get built until charitable donations, TLC, sponsors and other organization pitch in and finish the house and brought things for their home for them, in time for production. It was only after TLC that they began buying all kinds of vehicles, their wardrobe changed for the better and JB and Michelle realized they latched on to a money making business deal using their kids. More then likely probably figure, if we're going to have all these kids.
4. and TLC picked him up after that. He dropped out of politics altogether and chose television as his career, making money off his children. That is actually when things started picking up for the Duggar, when JB sign on to TLC-discovery channel. He never went back to work again... He took his paychecks from TLC and invested into more real estate renting them out. So with the money he made from TLC and rented properties. He was able to begin building their home.
3. went broke and in debt until he join this seminar and became debt free, where he was able to save enough money to buy and go into real estate and brought some properties which he later had to sell to run his campaign. Then he decided to run for a seat in congress, won and in the next election lost, so he really had nothing line up after that. No work, no job, no nothing until people magazine did a story about him and...
2. since they were on CNN marking her. I think they have a lot of nerve, people say if they want to have a lot of kids it's their business. But if they are putting themselves on television, isn't the Duggar making it our business too? They pimp their kids to a world they don't approve of and exploit their children for money. A lot of ppl don't realize this. But JB was not rich when he started out. Michelle is quick to tell the world that he dabble in many off and on jobs,
Duggars aren't no better then Gosselin, Hayes, Suleman or the Roloff...
1. The Truth about the Duggars, you obviously didn't know... Duggar only help their own kinds, never outsiders. They add on to the Bate home, but I didn't see them contact Octo-mom as Christian and offer to help Nadya or her parents get out of debt and add on to their home, like many had helped them? Not like they never heard of Nadya,
Having 19 kids becuz 1 die is not an obsession but wanting 10 kids is? The Duggar collect kids like hoarders collect trash&junk. Only difference, Duggar get paid for their. Girls can't go to college but the boys can be car dealers selling auction junk cars. If wasn't for the Duggar reality TV show. They be just as broke as Nadya was. They use to live in a 2000sq foot home until TLC. How could the Duggar look down their noses at Nadya when they came from where she's been? Duggar are full of it!
I also don't totally agree with the way the Duggars have put their family on TV. I too noticed how once their show started their house suddenly came together. I'm sure the money from the show has helped them a lot and I'm not sure where they would be without it. I also think that having this show will have some negative effects on their family.
MsSarcia, I do want to know how you know that the Duggar girls can't go to college?
Majority of their adult children supposedly already have their GED since they were 16. Their now in their late and early 20's and haven't even seen the inside of a college yet alone go to one. Michelle need the elder girls home to look after the smaller kids. Don't believe me, check out "18 kids and counting, once a Duggar always a Duggar 1/3).
They never said on there that their girls couldn't go to college, just that none of them have chosen to. Also Josh Duggar, the oldest, is only 21, none of the Duggar kids are in their late 20's. Most of them are still in their teens, they may still go to college.
sitting in a use car lot rocking it while reading fan mail negs/pos just to pass the day because there's no customers. Please. This family make their living off TV and it's not a bad thing if they could at least admit that instead of trying to push their retarded values and beliefs on others by claiming they are trying to encourage others to have 19 freaking kids and get a TV show like them. But their quick to talk about that rental property and cellphone tower though. Duggar's are full of it!
Jill is 19 and had her GED since she was 16. still at home and no job. This year John David and Jana gonna be 21, Josh will be 22 this year and Jessia will be 18 and they all have their GED. If they were going to college they would have done so by now, don't you think? And Anna (Josh wife) at least went to college online and earned her BA. but it's going to waste. She can't teach the Bible because she tied down at age 20 after 4 months of marriage with a crying baby on her lap
JB said in one episode that he doesn't let his kids be around others because he doesn't want them to be influence by other life style because he worked so hard at teaching them their way, bascially. As for them going to college, I'll believe it when I see it. Michelle can not care for those lil kids without the elder girls help. That's why she homeschool. We saw Michelle trying to handle those kids without them. Total chaos!
The Duggar has never been on Welfare according to Jim Bob and Michelle. But they weren't rich and struggle on a one man salary living in a 2000+sq foot home with 15 people. JB worked odd jobs here and there, did a little real estate and sold his home. But before they could move in their new 7000sq foot home. People donated and built their home free of charge. And they do not pay taxes on their land their home sits on because JB named it as a church. If they don't pay taxes, guess who's paying it
No way, Nadya's a media whore. Nadya will exploit her kids(even pose on a mag in a bikini when tearing up Kate on a beach for paparazzi photos stating she would NEVER do the same on the 1 yr birthday of her littler, while the Duggars seem to be doing things on their own with limited attention. MsSarcia is someone who must relate to Nadya's sickness since if you look to your right, you will more likely see her posting her "TEAMNADYA" freak show and every excuse im the book for being a bad mom.
Nadya never said she wouldn't do a bikini shoot. She said perhaps in a year when she lost a little more weight. And she only attacked Kate Gosselin because Radar online had showed her videos of Kate attacking her. I wish they would show Nadya of the Duggar attacking her too. I would love to see Nadya rip hem freaks apart. TEAM NADYA! LOL
Doesn't matter how children were conceived. What matters is they are here and need to be love and taking care of. The Duggars financial means to take care of their 19 kids is by exploiting them all in a reality TV show to a world they don't even approve of. And Nadya is wrong for wanting to do the same? Nadya is doing just fine with her children, home, new job and nannies. Exactly like the Duggar family.
Different because the Duggar deliberately set out to have 19 kids, where as Nadya set out to have 7. But they both believe God has blessed them with their children. Nadya doesn't use her elder kids to raise her youngers. Unlike Michelle and JimBob Duggar. We don't know how JB and Michelle conceived their children. Hell they could have used turkey baster for all we know.
those kids from the elders to the younger are clueless, slow, forgetful and brainwashed, not to mention slaves. They are nothing more then Michelle and JB money makers. Exploiting their children to a world they don't even approve of for money. Their kids are wild and out of control and trained to sit infront of the camera and put on fake smiles and be quite. That's just to name a few... It's sad lynn. Which is why I can't see why ppl look down their noses at Nadya but praise the Duggar parents.
Rushed back home to care for mommy and daddy kids when they do get out alone to go to retreats etc, share the same friends as their younger siblings with parents approval only. They eat, sleep and hang around their siblings 24/7-365 looking after them. Elder Duggar kids have no life! They haven't got a clue of what the real world is like or how ppl live their lives outside their 7000sq foot bunker. Jesus,
Oh really lynn? lol How rounded could they be if they don't have any outside knowlegde of different cultures? Don't venture outside their prison walls unless their being chaperone by their siblings and parents.
Shit you have got to be kidding me. They are all over Nadya because she have 14. when Michelle and JimBob has 19? Talk about obsess with having children's... people need to get a life and stop coming after Nadya for doing the same thing the Duggars has done. At least Nadya intended to have one more child and got 8 to the babies splitting. Michelle Duggar deliberately set out to have 19. Why Gloria Allred and social service isn't all over these ppl? Because their white? UGH! Leave Nadya be!
Why, because she has 14 kids? Well the Duggar family has 19. And they are living off reality TV money too. So is the Gosselin who has 8. What about them? Are they the craziest women on the face of the earth too? Please...
This woman needs to keep her legs closed. Isn't it a coincidence that she is mexican. thats typical for them to suck this country dry and it wasn't the money from suit or whatever she used to get pregnant it was her other children's social security benefits
um invitro fertilisation means that she got pregnant by someone placing already fertilised eggs into her uterus. you don't need your legs to be open to do that.
everyone does need to just concentrate on their own life, or get one if all you have to do with your time is talk shit on this woman that has brought 14 children into the world, give her a break.
How about giving those 14 innocent children a break? Their mother is clearly insane. Society is guilty of child abuse those children are left in her custody.
14 kids isn't a big deal, abomation, my wife's grandmother had 16, but 8 newborns at one time, and how to care for them properly, is insane to comprehend.
this makes me so fucking angry, and i could go on for hours and write a godamn novel out of my rants. but one of the things i find rediculous is that the first thing she did after having these kids was hire a publicist... what mother is even thinking of that after giving birth? she has plans of making all kinds of money exploiting her children, and the very sad thing is in the u.s. someone like this will have no problem what so ever getting a tv show and all sorts of publicity and money.
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shes been recieving all sorts of death threat and all i can hope for is that someone follows through with one. someone like this doesnt deserve to live and definatly doesnt deserve to bring 14 lives into this world. she had six kids already, she should have takin that $100,000+ she spent to get pregnant again and used it to give her original 6 kids a better life and to help her parents out who went bankrupt attempting to support her after she did this the 1st time.
People and the media should just leave her alone. She and her kids are no one's business, even if she didn't make the soundest choices.
We all pay taxes. Even whenever we buy anything. I don't hear this kind of outcry over spending billions on pointless wars, industry grand profiteering, Ponzi schemes like Madoff, and trillions to bail out greedy thieves so they can keep on thieving, fly nice jets, and get big bonuses. No one bails out the average man with a family to feed who ends up homeless.
Nadia's a lying manipulative bitch with only HER best interest at heart. If she really wanted the best for her children, she would give them up to adoptive families who can take care of them. But she's loving the spotlight to much to do that. Look what it's got her so far? New house, money, clothes, people to take care of her kids while she shops and now a reality show. Sick, opportunist who now doubt got paid for every interview. DONT WATCH HER SHOW! BOYCOTT ADVERTISERS AND ANYONE WHO PAYS HER!
wow, i think the media should stay away from Nadya and let see how she will survive that way, since she is getting paid to have media attention. I understand that people are on her ass because she is getting paid by people's taxes. But the media and all the people should leave her alone so she can feel the brutality of not being financially stable, who knows she might commit suicide by realizing she can't take care of her babies alone.
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She should kill herself! ... it would be for the greater good for her kids. That way her kids could upgrade, having the chance to grow up with another family that could give them the love and attention they need. She has already put there lives at risk starting when she was more concerned about how many she could cram inside her then just a healthy pregnancy.
Do you realize what you are saying? If she killed herself, her kids would he without a mother, and they would almost definitely be separated because no one is going to take 14 kids under foster care, and the kids would have to live the rest of their lives knowing that their mother committed suicide.
Nadya Scleman is crazy and the children should be adopted to some one who will love them and can afford to take care of them because their mother did this to make money and get on televison.
I could not agree with you more. There should be laws regarding children being on reality shows. These kids have paid for everything their money sucking parents have. I think the kids are darling and I really feel bad for them. I hope they are off the air soon.
Some of use have had to choose NOT to have a child we cannot afford . It is not right to deliberately have ONE baby and expect to be underwritten by hardworking taxpayers much less 14! I AM "casting the first stone" because I am without sin when it comes to selfish, short-sighted reproduction.
Shes an idiot. How can anyone provide for 14 kids. Selfish, spending first her money on plastic surgery so she could look like Angelina, instead of saving that money for her 6 kids...went ahead and had 8 more, what a selfish pig
what you should be dealing with is alll the billions that vampires like MADOFF stole from your stupid ass. But being the coward you are its easier to attack women.
Does anyone know which doctor did Nadyas tummy tuck surgery...I hope California TAXES did not pay for it. She went from 190 pounds to 135 lbs. in a week!!! She was poor i month a go and now is a miilionaire people!!! While we are in an economic crisis, we make her priority!!! Then all girls will model after this and get pregnant! NICE going Nadya!!!!!!!
For every mother who is pouncing on Ms. Suleman, how many mothers are actually raising their own children? She stated her decision to be implanted again was wrong. How many judgemental mothers over Suleman even want to raise their own children? Most mothers plop them with strangers in a daycare until they go to school, spending only a couple hours a day with them. Which is worse: To want to be a mom, or to want to just "look" like a mom while your children are raised by strangers every day?
Cheaper by the dozen...plus 2...
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lamitatro 1 year ago
I saw the video when she left to pick up the second set of octuplets. There were only a few out there and apparently the police were called in to let them know Nadya was bringing home her other babies, therefore the cops were there to see that they got home safety. Paparazzi were asked to leave before Nadya arrived, jeangrey. Watch the video! And no her children shouldn't be taking away from her. Why? Because CPS, her lawyer, spoke person, a judge, Dr. Phil all said Nadya was a good mother.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
The paparazzi were there before she left, what makes you think she didn't know? If she's that stupid then those kids SHOULD be taken away from her.
jeangrey65 2 years ago
Jeangrey watch the video on YT called
"Octomom Brings Home 2 More Octuplets"
When she brought the second set of babies home, cops were out there directing and blocking traffic and wouldn't let any paparazzi or ppl come through the block. They even showed that part... Nadya said they would't let them through until they explain to them it's Nadya and the babies. They didn't want what happened with the first two to happen again.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
The Duggers are very different from Nadya. They conceived all their children naturally. They also have the financial means to take care of them. I come from a big family and have several children of my own. A large family is a wonderful thing, but being a mother especially with a lot of little ones takes a lot of dedication and sacrifice. I hope Nadya can rise to the challenge.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
quess who's home raising all the rest of her little ones? Sure as heck not JB because he's supposedly at the hospital with Michelle laying across her bed talking into camera thanking fans UGH! That's right... it's her elder girls. Home school has come to a complete halt, not that they ever have it anyway, since they spend 9/10 of the time traveling to free invited trips here and there. I can go on and on about these Duggars whom imo is no better then Nadya or anybody else for that matter. jmo
MsSarcia 2 years ago
People are downing Nadya for having Nannies to help her raise her kids. Well um the JB&M are using their elder girls to raise every single one of their little kids, she calls it "The buddy system" and in that "Buddy system" is the word "Jurisdiction" which mean all Michelle has to do is remain barefeet and pregnant while JB rides around in all his new vehicles until he's ready to knock Michelle up again. Look at Michelle now, up in the hospital with a 1lbs 6oz. baby...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
When you think about it, the Duggar were and still is in some way same as Nadya. They too are using the Government but in a different way. They don't pay taxes on their land their 7000sq foot home sits on because JB claimed it as a church, so anything brought for that home oops church is tax deductable, not to mention getting tax credit for each additional kid they have. Whose paying all those taxes if the Duggars aren't?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Hi MommyGracie, explain to me again how the Duggar are any better then Nadya and how do we 100% know Michelle and JimBob Duggar didn't use a turkey baster and not have 20 kids naturally?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
If you read my comment I said that the Duggars were different from Nadya. You added the "better" and of course we can't know 100% how Michelle and JimBob conceived each of their children. However, I think that you are familiar enough with the Duggars beliefs to know that it doesn't fit with them.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Point being, I have caught the Duggar in many lies. They are totally hypocrites and liars. They also contradict themselves repeatedly. I can't be 100% sure they didn't use some other means for Michelle to get pregnant or not. But I do know this... This does not make The Duggar any better then the Gosselin, Hayes or the Suleman family. With the exception of welfare, they were all in the same boat. All use reality TV to support their large family. Those are the facts! Nothing to do with beliefs.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I don't believe that the Duggars are any better then those other families you mentioned or Nadya. I believe Nadya loves her children. There is really only one problem that I have with Nadya, and it is that I believe children need a father, not a sperm donor. I'm a little old fashion I guess, but I just believe that If you don't have a man in your life who will be a father to your kids then you don't need to have kids.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Excuse me MommyGracie. This world (America) in general is made up of dead beat dads, absent dad, dead daddy's, unfit daddy and daddy's whom are in jail. And same applies to mother's. Where is it written that a child has to have both a mommy and daddy in order to grow up wise, smart and intelligent and to make something positive of their lives? I once knew someone who grew up with both God fearing working parents and he rob an armor truck and is in a Federal prison right now as we speak.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
True, there are many, many children who have to grow up with fathers or mothers who are absent in one way or another, and the children who do grow up in those situation grow up to be wonderful adults a lot of the time. Also children with two parent often don't always turn out good. However, there have been many studies done that show that children who do have to good parents growing up do tend to grow into more well adjusted adults. It's not a rule, and there are exceptions, but it is best.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Um Jeffrey Domer had two parents growing up in his home. Look what became of him.
Then there was the Menendez Brothers. I mean the list is endless Mommy. It doesn't matter if there are two parents in the home or one. Children will grow up to be what is in them regardless. Their human-being and have their own minds and way of doing things. Children mistakes are not their parents fault. mo
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Like I said before their are exceptions both ways, and of course once adults people make their own choices. I'm not sure if you believe in God or not, so I'm not sure if this means anything to you, but I believe there was a reason that God made it so it took a man in a woman to create a child, and that both a mother and a father play a vital role in raising a child.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Well I do believe in God, I believe there is a higher being then ourselves. I won't get into this but FYI Adam and Eve weren't married and they even split up and went their seperate ways once they bitten the forbidden fruit (apple). Joseph and Mary had never had sex and Mary born ONE child of God. How (mystery) lol God did not raise that child, he gave the child (Jesus) to Mary and Joseph to raise as the story goes. Jesus did not have any children.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Adam and Eve were married. The wedding traditions we have now did not exist back then, but God created Eve to be the wife of Adam. Essentially they were married by God.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Oh... whom married them? Like who said the vows and what not? I know all about how God took dust and created a man and breath life into his nose, then put Adam to work in the Garden, which Adam couldn't do alone. Then he put Adam to sleep and from Adam ribs he created a wo-man. But being married, now that's something new. lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Genesis 2:21-24 tells us And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.And Adam said: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man. Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his WIFE, and they shall become one flesh.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Ooooh yeah.. I heard about that too Gracie. He put Adam to sleep and from his rib he made Eve. But I never knew anything about them being married. Did they even know what marriage was back then? I mean they never even slept with each other yet alone saw each other naked until they ate the bad apple. Never did get that part anyway. Why would God put an bad apple tree in the Garden of Eden anyway? lol I think they called it the tree of knowledge or something. I don't know...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
As for Adam and Eve splitting up after the fall, I'm not sure where you got that from.
Jesus is a unique situation because He is both God and man. God gave Joseph, the husband of Mary, the job of being an earthly father to Jesus. But Jesus also had a close relationship to His heavenly Father, God. If you read the bible Jesus talks about His Father God, and talks to him through prayer. They did have a relationship during His time on earth.
You are right, Jesus did not have any children.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
I Then it goes something like God came to them and punished them by telling Eve she would have pains during labor and I forgot what kind of punishment Adam got. Then he kicked them out of the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve had a bunch of kids etc... There was talked that Eve children once older slept with one another and had kids of their own and so. Didn't Cain killed his brother over a girl? I really don't know to much about this stuff... Just what I heard basically.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
don't know... I heard it somewhere, that after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple, they saw for the first time they were naked and covered themselves.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Cain did kill his brother, but not over a girl. You really should read more of the bible if you want to use it to make points. God put the tree in the garden so that people would have the right to choose to do good or evil. He wants us to choose to love and serve Him, not to do it because we have no other choice. God knows everything, and he knew that Adam and Eve would choose not to obey Him, he also knew that he was going to create a way that they could be forgiven for their sins.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Who was using it as a point? I do believe I asked you a simple question Gracie. Didn't Cain killed his brother? That's all I asked... And I don't have to read up on anything. It's so far back that no one cares but you. You brought it up, I just added on by taking your lead and asking you a simple question. I am not nor have I ever claimed to be a Bible thumper.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
You didn't offend me.You just misunderstood me.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
God punishment to Eve was to suffer during period, birth labor and as I said, I don't recall what Adam punishment was. Then he kicked them both out of the gardan of Eden and left them to fend for themselves. The fact that they had bitten that apple strip them of purity and gave them thirst for knowledge to choose right from wrong, good from evil. Now I could be wrong about all this. But I'm just telling what I heard and it's only what I have heard.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Okay, here's what I heard, Adam & Eve knew nothing. God control their every thought since he created them. Then God put that forbidden apple tree smack down in the middle of that beautiful Garden and told them both not to eat from it. We'll never know why he put that tree there. I heard, God didn't give Adam and Eve the right to choose good and evil until they ate the apple. He was furious and opened their blinded eyes. They saw they were naked and hid themselves with bushes to hide themselves.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Adam's punishment was that he would have to work hard his whole life to get food from the ground. God did not control Adam and Eve's every thought when they were in the garden. He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden, and told them they could eat from any tree in the garden except that one.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Why not just give that to them, why not teach them? Instead of putting it there and say look, I put an evil tree there, don't eat from it or you would surely be born to die and know and wonder all life secrets and mystery. Makes no sense to me. I'm still trying to figure out where God came from. LOL We all know where Jesus came from? Big old life mystery that will never be answered until death do us. But anyway. Thanks for telling me about Adam punishment. :)
MsSarcia 2 years ago
To be honest I don't totally understand it either. I just trust tyhat God is wiser than me, and that He knew what He was doing. Like you said, some things we won't understand until we get to Heaven.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
That's how I see it too. I imagine there's a lot of questions being asked when ppl reach the heavely gates. lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
That's the point I was trying to get to. Far be it for me to question God. But why would he start all this by putting a forbidden tree there from the get? If he wanted them to have knowledge and know good from evil.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Eventually they did choose to eat from it, and their eyes were opened. Before that they were like children, they didn't fully understand good and evil, but they knew God had told them not to and they had a choice to obey him or not to.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
they hung Jesus on the cross with nail right along with a thief and a liar I believe? Jesus could have saved himself. But he knew he had came to earth with a mission. To die for our sins like his (our father) wanted... I'll never understand that part, but so it is written. lol But I heard it rained for 40 days and 40 nights after Jesus death that Good Friday and that he rosed on Easter Sunday morning. Whoa, how did we get on the subject of this?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I don't totally understand it either. But the punishment for sin is death. Because we all have sinned we would have to die and go to hell. But God loved us, and wanted us to be able to spend eternity with Him, so He sent Jesus to take on our punishment. That is why Jesus was hung on a cross, by two thieves like you said. But because He is God he did not stay dead, He rose again after three days.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Back it up there. I haven't sin... I haven't broken not one 10 Commandments. Not one. The sins of Adam and Eve is crush upon our heads and those who brake the 10 Commandments are the true sinners. But like they say... We are born sinners, thanks to this Adam and Eve, God has created.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Really, you've never lied, you've never been envious of what someone else has, you've never used the name of God disrespectfully? Wow, you're doing better than me, because I sin every day. Don't get me wrong, I try not to, but mess up a lot.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Where is it written that Thou shall not lie? And were is it written that being envious is a sin?
Do you mean like saying OMG? Well usually I would type it Oh my God. But I thought what they mean by not taking the name of the Lord thou God name in vain meant, not to use God names to selfishy make excuses for your wrong doing or evil behavior and not to use the word God Dam! Though I say Got damn! lol We're human, we're suppose to make mistakes.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor" essentially mean that if you've ever said anything that wasn't true about someone you've broken that commandment. "You Shall not covet" to covet is to envious or want something that isn't yours. Your definition of not taking God's name ib vain is right, but it also means not using it in any way that is not honoring to God.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Blessively, I don't know my neighbors. They're never home and always traveling over seas. I can't say I never lied to protect some one from harm, for instant: (like someone bf is after their gf to do bodily harm to them and I hide them out in my home, I would tell that bf of hers, she's not there) but to flat out lie to hurt someone. I don't think I ever done that. I never stolen anything in my life. I pay for what I want or ask can I have it. I don't clame to be a saint or perfect. But... lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
You did say that you had never sinned, which would make you perfect. Don't misunderstand me I'm not trying to say that you are a horrible person. I'm sure you are a wonderful person who is trying to live a good life. I'm just saying that everyone has sinned, it's human nature. That's why we all need forgiveness.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
LOL oh oh, then I must've lied unintentually. By way of sin meaning I never had no other God before him. I never made God of an image and praise it. I don't ever recall using God name in vain. I remember Sunday and keep holy. I never dishonor my parents, I never stole anything, never kill, never committed adultery, and I don't think I ever bare false witness or convet anything that is thy neighbor. Did I cover it all? Oh well... lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Wow, all I'm going to say is you're a much better person than I am.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
I think all haters need to see this.
This is what Nadya is all about. Go to...
"Octomom& The Octuplets- Life at Home"
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Cute pictures. But let me make something very clear to you. I do not hate Nadya. Yes, I disagree with some of the things she has done, but I do not hate her or anyone else for that matter.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Oh sorry I left that impression. I posted this on a lot of Nadya videos page. I just wanted to show not just you but to all, these photos of Nadya spending time with her childen. So many were saying she was an unfit mother and doesn't spend anytime with her kids because she's always shopping. So not true and I just figure I share those photos that this nice person was kind enough to share with me. These are the second one he has done. I didn't mean to imply you were a hater of Nadya. :)
MsSarcia 2 years ago
@MsSarcia ...are you related to Nadya? Just asking 'cuz it seems odd that some someone would just give photos of her + the children to a stranger. Just saying
milomilo55 6 months ago
@milomilo55 no, I'm not related to Nadya Suleman. :)
MsSarcia 6 months ago
Oh btw... The nannies in these photos are after AIW and Gloria Allred were kicked out of Nadya home, children and life. She and the kids look so happy together.
AIW lied on this woman, they were evil and only out to control Nadya and to have those babies taking away from her. That was their mission from the start. :)
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Since we are on the topic of commandments, Jesus during His time on earth gave us two commandments which He said summed up all the others. They were
To love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. and to love your neighbor (meaning fellow man/women) as you love yourself.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
You are right we are human we do make mistakes. Gos knows we will mess up and sin, that's why He created a way that we could still get to heaven in spite of our sin, and He is always ready to forgive us if we ask Him to.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
LOL well I'm in no hurry to meet my maker, that's for sure. Tho I believe we all are a book of life. We're born with it... Once our book is open, our lives began.. we learn, move on and then our book close by way of death. End of story and if God willing, I rather live to be 900 yrs old like Adam. Funny how that works huh? No man has ever lived pass 150 that I aware of. And why do ppl get old and wrinkle in old age? Who invented numbers that has no end and months that can't be added on?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Did you ever know that you can dig as deep as you can go and never reach the bottom of the earth? Ever wonder why you can't reach up and touch the heavens above? What is really under the sea ground and how deep does it go and how could it hold all that water without caving in? What's holding the the stars, moon and sun up there? lol What's beyond the space cloud? Man I got questions out of this world... lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
You do have a lot of great questions, and I don't have all the answers, but I know who does.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Me too, and I'm in no hurry to asked him. LOL you?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Yes!! But until then I'm content to trust Him for the parts that I don't understand. Like my little son who is only two, he can not understand always why I tell him to stop or tell him no, or make him eat food he doesn't like, but he has to trust me, and obey, and someday he will understand.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Tru-dat! lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Some people would say that even God made a mistake when he punished Adam and Eve. Through them we have murders, rape, child molestation, robbery, stabbing, crack and so on... All because of two people sin, we all got punished. Though God did tried to correct his mistake through Jesus. We're all still doom to failure! lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
God had to punish Adam and Eve when they sinned because God is just and He can not let sin go unpunished. Sin was in the world before Adam and Eve though. I'm sure you've heard of satan...
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Well I never want to cross God that's for sure. Lucifer did and look what happened to him. OUTCH! lol You know he was once an angel toss out of heaven becaus he thought he was better then God and turned against God. Like to know where he came from too, since God created Adam and Eve first? They say our God is a jealous God. So wow...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Going back to the story of Adam and Eve satan disguised himself as a serpent and talked to Eve before she ate the forbidden fruit and told her that if she ate it she would be like God. He tempted her because wanted Adam and Eve and therefore all mankind to fall. Satan was at one time an angel of God, however he decided that he wanted to be greater than God. Because of that he was banished from heaven. He hates God and his desire is to pull as many people away from God as he can with his lies.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Yes, I know about satan. Where the heck did he come from? One story they're telling us Adam was the first man God ever created and then another Lucifer. Dag you just said what I said about satan. Sorry, I started from the bottom responding to your comments and didn't see your first one until now.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Like you and I both said Satan was an angel. God created the angels too, some time before He created humans. Hehe, my comments are always to long, so I have to break them into parts sometimes.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
When I make to heaven. I'm sure to ask God who is he? Where did he come from? And why he created this earth and man kind? What are roaches, flies and other useless insects, waterbugs and ants for? When did he created animals and why he created dinasaurs... Oh boy this could take life time eternity to ask him all the questions man can't answer. lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Wait a second here now! So Jesus is God in disguise? He came back to earth as a Jesus? Confused me why don't ya! hehehe...
Seriously, can you explain that last statement of yours "He is God he did not stay dead"
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Jesus the Son, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all God. It's like liquid water, steam, and Ice are different forms of water, but they are all H2O.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
LOL that's a funny way to put it.
But I understand now. You lost me there for a moment. lol because I was like now how could God be Jesus unless he transform himself into an innocent baby?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
There was a thunder storm after Jesus died, and the sky became black, but it did not last 40 days and 40 nights. You are thinking of the flood in Noah and the ark.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Oh LMAO... hey, I said I'm not a Bible thumper. But I do listen when ppl talk and once in a while I may pick up a Bible and go to church. lol
MsSarcia 2 years ago
That's great, it's so nice to hear people who have strong opinions, but are still able to have an open mind.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
naturally.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Adam and Eve which their sins were passed on to everyone... Hope I'm not confusing you here. lol God figure he were try to save souls by having people help themselves. He must born his son Jesus to represent him to the world to save us all from our sins so that we may have enternal life with him. Giving us that second chance. Of course many wasn't hearing it. The world was to far gone and they found Jesus to be a threat and a liar of some souce...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Years later, the population grew (which is why many today say we are all brothers and sisters because Adam & Eve children mating with each other and so forth.) Fast forward to when Jesus was born. Things were pretty much getting out of control back then. Man has build temples and impires and became Kings and Queens etc. They rob from the poor and defenseless and became rich and powerful. God wanted to try and clean up the mess he made by condemning
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Now about this forgiveness and sin thing. God is the one that gave Adam & Eve the choice to choose from evil and good and right from wrong when they bit that apple from the tree God had planted.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
So... Am I on the right track with this or not? lol
Back to Nadya Suleman... Wonder will she ever show the Octuplets at one years old. I haven't seen them since they were 10 months old? Have you?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I imagine she probably will :)
MommyGracie 2 years ago
But what's done is done now, and what's important is that her children are loved and cared for, and if the government or tv shows are what's going to make that happen then that's what needs to be done.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
Exactly... which is why I don't see why ppl is beating up on Nadya because she want to do a documentary on children and her self. Hayes, Gosselin and Duggar are all doing it. But because Nadya wants to earn a living doing this. She's an unfit mother who is exploiting her children and should have them taking away from her? That's BS! :)
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Agreed, if you start taking children away everyone who has put their kids on tv, well it just wouldn't work. I wouldn't do it with my children, but, if other people choose to it's up to them, and if it's a choice between that and having your children homeless and starving to death then I would say choose that.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
How bout putting your kids in harm? Which is what even Nadya admitted doing when the newborns came in. Letting newspeople in without masks. How bout negligence? She states shes working out 2 hours a day right? She said it herself in a magazine. How many hours does that leave for sleep and her 14 kids. Ever wonder why the Government limits the amount of caretakers per child? COMMON FLIPPIN SENSE!
jeangrey65 2 years ago
No one could have foreseen what was going to happen that night. But she did correct the problem. Thanks to the police dept. they blocked off the interception and street when Nadya came home with the next two and so forth. Did you see Nadya open her door to anyone? They were there when she got there, and most of them had pushed their way in anyway. jeangrey, what are you talking about? LOL
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Nadya also stated that she didn't think there were going to be mobs of ppl at her home when she got home with the kids. As they weren't all in front of home when she left to go pick up the two babies.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
8. Why not volunteer right here in their own back yard, country where their services are needed too? No, I'm not just talking about invited volunteer either... The Duggar will make nice and smile for the public, because they need you to keep their show on air. But don't for a second delude yourself into thinking they would invite you into their sick twisted world other then to watch them. Unless you are white, in their circle of friends and have multitude of kids like them.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
7. JB help him into TLC because the Wilson father, help him build their home and basket ball court in the yard. It's all about the money with these people and if it wasn't for TLC. JB be still out there hustling trying to make ends meat and more then likely would end up on welfare himself. Hard to believe 19 kids, no job and they wouldn't go hungry. Duggar don't care about outsiders. Sure they go to El Salvador, but what exactly do they do there beside help serve food?
MsSarcia 2 years ago
6. Why not get paid for them. And that's exactly what they have done. The more kids they have, the more they get paid and get tax exempt for each of them. And to help THEIR friends The Wilson and Bate out, because they need money too... As you often here the Bate father keep saying their cutting tree down business is slow. TLC decided to cover and pay the Bates for every episode they are in thanks to JB. Because you know for sure they aren't doing it for free. And the same applies for the Wilson
MsSarcia 2 years ago
5. But he ran out of funds and the house couldn't get built until charitable donations, TLC, sponsors and other organization pitch in and finish the house and brought things for their home for them, in time for production. It was only after TLC that they began buying all kinds of vehicles, their wardrobe changed for the better and JB and Michelle realized they latched on to a money making business deal using their kids. More then likely probably figure, if we're going to have all these kids.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
4. and TLC picked him up after that. He dropped out of politics altogether and chose television as his career, making money off his children. That is actually when things started picking up for the Duggar, when JB sign on to TLC-discovery channel. He never went back to work again... He took his paychecks from TLC and invested into more real estate renting them out. So with the money he made from TLC and rented properties. He was able to begin building their home.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
3. went broke and in debt until he join this seminar and became debt free, where he was able to save enough money to buy and go into real estate and brought some properties which he later had to sell to run his campaign. Then he decided to run for a seat in congress, won and in the next election lost, so he really had nothing line up after that. No work, no job, no nothing until people magazine did a story about him and...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
2. since they were on CNN marking her. I think they have a lot of nerve, people say if they want to have a lot of kids it's their business. But if they are putting themselves on television, isn't the Duggar making it our business too? They pimp their kids to a world they don't approve of and exploit their children for money. A lot of ppl don't realize this. But JB was not rich when he started out. Michelle is quick to tell the world that he dabble in many off and on jobs,
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Duggars aren't no better then Gosselin, Hayes, Suleman or the Roloff...
1. The Truth about the Duggars, you obviously didn't know... Duggar only help their own kinds, never outsiders. They add on to the Bate home, but I didn't see them contact Octo-mom as Christian and offer to help Nadya or her parents get out of debt and add on to their home, like many had helped them? Not like they never heard of Nadya,
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Having 19 kids becuz 1 die is not an obsession but wanting 10 kids is? The Duggar collect kids like hoarders collect trash&junk. Only difference, Duggar get paid for their. Girls can't go to college but the boys can be car dealers selling auction junk cars. If wasn't for the Duggar reality TV show. They be just as broke as Nadya was. They use to live in a 2000sq foot home until TLC. How could the Duggar look down their noses at Nadya when they came from where she's been? Duggar are full of it!
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I also don't totally agree with the way the Duggars have put their family on TV. I too noticed how once their show started their house suddenly came together. I'm sure the money from the show has helped them a lot and I'm not sure where they would be without it. I also think that having this show will have some negative effects on their family.
MsSarcia, I do want to know how you know that the Duggar girls can't go to college?
MommyGracie 2 years ago
From "18 kids and counting, just ask the Duggar"
Majority of their adult children supposedly already have their GED since they were 16. Their now in their late and early 20's and haven't even seen the inside of a college yet alone go to one. Michelle need the elder girls home to look after the smaller kids. Don't believe me, check out "18 kids and counting, once a Duggar always a Duggar 1/3).
MsSarcia 2 years ago
They never said on there that their girls couldn't go to college, just that none of them have chosen to. Also Josh Duggar, the oldest, is only 21, none of the Duggar kids are in their late 20's. Most of them are still in their teens, they may still go to college.
MommyGracie 2 years ago
sitting in a use car lot rocking it while reading fan mail negs/pos just to pass the day because there's no customers. Please. This family make their living off TV and it's not a bad thing if they could at least admit that instead of trying to push their retarded values and beliefs on others by claiming they are trying to encourage others to have 19 freaking kids and get a TV show like them. But their quick to talk about that rental property and cellphone tower though. Duggar's are full of it!
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Jill is 19 and had her GED since she was 16. still at home and no job. This year John David and Jana gonna be 21, Josh will be 22 this year and Jessia will be 18 and they all have their GED. If they were going to college they would have done so by now, don't you think? And Anna (Josh wife) at least went to college online and earned her BA. but it's going to waste. She can't teach the Bible because she tied down at age 20 after 4 months of marriage with a crying baby on her lap
MsSarcia 2 years ago
JB said in one episode that he doesn't let his kids be around others because he doesn't want them to be influence by other life style because he worked so hard at teaching them their way, bascially. As for them going to college, I'll believe it when I see it. Michelle can not care for those lil kids without the elder girls help. That's why she homeschool. We saw Michelle trying to handle those kids without them. Total chaos!
MsSarcia 2 years ago
The Duggar has never been on Welfare according to Jim Bob and Michelle. But they weren't rich and struggle on a one man salary living in a 2000+sq foot home with 15 people. JB worked odd jobs here and there, did a little real estate and sold his home. But before they could move in their new 7000sq foot home. People donated and built their home free of charge. And they do not pay taxes on their land their home sits on because JB named it as a church. If they don't pay taxes, guess who's paying it
MsSarcia 2 years ago
No way, Nadya's a media whore. Nadya will exploit her kids(even pose on a mag in a bikini when tearing up Kate on a beach for paparazzi photos stating she would NEVER do the same on the 1 yr birthday of her littler, while the Duggars seem to be doing things on their own with limited attention. MsSarcia is someone who must relate to Nadya's sickness since if you look to your right, you will more likely see her posting her "TEAMNADYA" freak show and every excuse im the book for being a bad mom.
jeangrey65 2 years ago
Nadya never said she wouldn't do a bikini shoot. She said perhaps in a year when she lost a little more weight. And she only attacked Kate Gosselin because Radar online had showed her videos of Kate attacking her. I wish they would show Nadya of the Duggar attacking her too. I would love to see Nadya rip hem freaks apart. TEAM NADYA! LOL
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Doesn't matter how children were conceived. What matters is they are here and need to be love and taking care of. The Duggars financial means to take care of their 19 kids is by exploiting them all in a reality TV show to a world they don't even approve of. And Nadya is wrong for wanting to do the same? Nadya is doing just fine with her children, home, new job and nannies. Exactly like the Duggar family.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Different because the Duggar deliberately set out to have 19 kids, where as Nadya set out to have 7. But they both believe God has blessed them with their children. Nadya doesn't use her elder kids to raise her youngers. Unlike Michelle and JimBob Duggar. We don't know how JB and Michelle conceived their children. Hell they could have used turkey baster for all we know.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I like the Duggers, they have well rounded, happy children.
lynn56484 2 years ago
those kids from the elders to the younger are clueless, slow, forgetful and brainwashed, not to mention slaves. They are nothing more then Michelle and JB money makers. Exploiting their children to a world they don't even approve of for money. Their kids are wild and out of control and trained to sit infront of the camera and put on fake smiles and be quite. That's just to name a few... It's sad lynn. Which is why I can't see why ppl look down their noses at Nadya but praise the Duggar parents.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Rushed back home to care for mommy and daddy kids when they do get out alone to go to retreats etc, share the same friends as their younger siblings with parents approval only. They eat, sleep and hang around their siblings 24/7-365 looking after them. Elder Duggar kids have no life! They haven't got a clue of what the real world is like or how ppl live their lives outside their 7000sq foot bunker. Jesus,
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Oh really lynn? lol How rounded could they be if they don't have any outside knowlegde of different cultures? Don't venture outside their prison walls unless their being chaperone by their siblings and parents.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
Shit you have got to be kidding me. They are all over Nadya because she have 14. when Michelle and JimBob has 19? Talk about obsess with having children's... people need to get a life and stop coming after Nadya for doing the same thing the Duggars has done. At least Nadya intended to have one more child and got 8 to the babies splitting. Michelle Duggar deliberately set out to have 19. Why Gloria Allred and social service isn't all over these ppl? Because their white? UGH! Leave Nadya be!
MsSarcia 2 years ago
dumbass
kakiebre 2 years ago 2
dumb bitch
MsSarcia 2 years ago
I severly doubt that her intentions were to have just one more.
jbean0 2 years ago
i think she is the craziest woman on the face of earth! omg! i swear! ppl will start to yell at her like hell!
blackfinjessie 2 years ago
Why, because she has 14 kids? Well the Duggar family has 19. And they are living off reality TV money too. So is the Gosselin who has 8. What about them? Are they the craziest women on the face of the earth too? Please...
MsSarcia 2 years ago
To doubt Nadya would mean you have to doubt Kate Gosselin. She claimed to have one more too and got six instead.
MsSarcia 2 years ago
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I pity the last man in the world if she is the only woman left, she would most likely rape him. Is there a man who would even like her????????
goodtotheend1 2 years ago
im in love with her
YourFaviorateSongs 2 years ago
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This woman needs to keep her legs closed. Isn't it a coincidence that she is mexican. thats typical for them to suck this country dry and it wasn't the money from suit or whatever she used to get pregnant it was her other children's social security benefits
catapult978 2 years ago
um invitro fertilisation means that she got pregnant by someone placing already fertilised eggs into her uterus. you don't need your legs to be open to do that.
TheFreakonthenet 2 years ago 2
LMAO They were all done with IVF not sexual intercourse.
MohammadSucksCock 2 years ago
14 kids just seem unreal to myself my mother barley took care of me and my brother!
theabomation 2 years ago
Great. I have to pay for her welfare kids.
NothingMoreBlack 2 years ago 3
This bitch spits out more babies than my cat....fucking octapussy...
iceman5815 2 years ago
lol i like that one
theshadow527 2 years ago 3
stupid..
sunmaidd 2 years ago
everyone does need to just concentrate on their own life, or get one if all you have to do with your time is talk shit on this woman that has brought 14 children into the world, give her a break.
demiiloveyou 2 years ago 3
Give her a break?
How about giving those 14 innocent children a break? Their mother is clearly insane. Society is guilty of child abuse those children are left in her custody.
Honestinwilkesbarre 2 years ago
How could some take care of 14 kids?
theabomation 2 years ago
14 kids isn't a big deal, abomation, my wife's grandmother had 16, but 8 newborns at one time, and how to care for them properly, is insane to comprehend.
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
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this makes me so fucking angry, and i could go on for hours and write a godamn novel out of my rants. but one of the things i find rediculous is that the first thing she did after having these kids was hire a publicist... what mother is even thinking of that after giving birth? she has plans of making all kinds of money exploiting her children, and the very sad thing is in the u.s. someone like this will have no problem what so ever getting a tv show and all sorts of publicity and money.
stephenWVU4life 2 years ago
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shes been recieving all sorts of death threat and all i can hope for is that someone follows through with one. someone like this doesnt deserve to live and definatly doesnt deserve to bring 14 lives into this world. she had six kids already, she should have takin that $100,000+ she spent to get pregnant again and used it to give her original 6 kids a better life and to help her parents out who went bankrupt attempting to support her after she did this the 1st time.
stephenWVU4life 2 years ago
SELFISH FUCKING BITCH
xodeathwish 2 years ago
Oh for fuck sakes...she got planted with 6 embryos and she only expected to have one. God people are stupid.
Jessss2008 2 years ago 3
i feel bad for the octuplets...
MaggieSimpsonX 2 years ago
People and the media should just leave her alone. She and her kids are no one's business, even if she didn't make the soundest choices.
We all pay taxes. Even whenever we buy anything. I don't hear this kind of outcry over spending billions on pointless wars, industry grand profiteering, Ponzi schemes like Madoff, and trillions to bail out greedy thieves so they can keep on thieving, fly nice jets, and get big bonuses. No one bails out the average man with a family to feed who ends up homeless.
FortitudeOfHeaven 2 years ago
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Nadia's a lying manipulative bitch with only HER best interest at heart. If she really wanted the best for her children, she would give them up to adoptive families who can take care of them. But she's loving the spotlight to much to do that. Look what it's got her so far? New house, money, clothes, people to take care of her kids while she shops and now a reality show. Sick, opportunist who now doubt got paid for every interview. DONT WATCH HER SHOW! BOYCOTT ADVERTISERS AND ANYONE WHO PAYS HER!
jeangrey65 2 years ago
all she is doing is getting famous for some stupid irresponsiable thing she did.
luciaonate 2 years ago 7
wow, i think the media should stay away from Nadya and let see how she will survive that way, since she is getting paid to have media attention. I understand that people are on her ass because she is getting paid by people's taxes. But the media and all the people should leave her alone so she can feel the brutality of not being financially stable, who knows she might commit suicide by realizing she can't take care of her babies alone.
areljl01 2 years ago 6
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She should kill herself! ... it would be for the greater good for her kids. That way her kids could upgrade, having the chance to grow up with another family that could give them the love and attention they need. She has already put there lives at risk starting when she was more concerned about how many she could cram inside her then just a healthy pregnancy.
bluetrain84 2 years ago
Do you realize what you are saying? If she killed herself, her kids would he without a mother, and they would almost definitely be separated because no one is going to take 14 kids under foster care, and the kids would have to live the rest of their lives knowing that their mother committed suicide.
frttee6 2 years ago 6
I don't endorse suicide, and I hope their crazy mom never harms herself or the children.
But face reality, those children would absolutely be better off in the care of people with both feet on the right side of the sanity line.
Honestinwilkesbarre 2 years ago 7
good idea
oldbag699 2 years ago
This hobag is draining cali dry! oh lordy lordy.
ldksparda 2 years ago 3
Nadya Scleman is crazy and the children should be adopted to some one who will love them and can afford to take care of them because their mother did this to make money and get on televison.
jmeika25 2 years ago 5
This is so gross.
benfamilyvideos 3 years ago 5
ya she'll end up and TLC she'll be on right after jon and kate plus 8.....i am gonna boycott that channel i think everyone should too.
manitobasuntanner 3 years ago 2
manitoba,
I could not agree with you more. There should be laws regarding children being on reality shows. These kids have paid for everything their money sucking parents have. I think the kids are darling and I really feel bad for them. I hope they are off the air soon.
mortonsalt18 3 years ago
or she will be a co-host on the Dr.Phil show.
josephkennith 3 years ago
child care expert? that crazy woman is the opposite of that
videomagnet06 3 years ago 3
Some of use have had to choose NOT to have a child we cannot afford . It is not right to deliberately have ONE baby and expect to be underwritten by hardworking taxpayers much less 14! I AM "casting the first stone" because I am without sin when it comes to selfish, short-sighted reproduction.
Trixiekitsch2008 3 years ago 4
guys let the mom have 14 baby gosh
people
rigito3 3 years ago
Do you pay taxes?
alyssaauch 3 years ago
we all pay taxes, even children when they buy candy on a store. if you see the receipt you will see the price plus the tax.
areljl01 2 years ago 2
That's not the only reason. People are paying for this with their taxes.
NickJonas6678 3 years ago 2
ummmm yes i agree with you all
but lets not get too hateful here...
21piecesofBlue 3 years ago
LOL childcare expert...LOL AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
talltangirl 3 years ago
Shes an idiot. How can anyone provide for 14 kids. Selfish, spending first her money on plastic surgery so she could look like Angelina, instead of saving that money for her 6 kids...went ahead and had 8 more, what a selfish pig
Saraswatiji 3 years ago 5
and she expects goverment to pay for this. i should kill this bitch and become an american hero
madmanis12345 3 years ago 4
what you should be dealing with is alll the billions that vampires like MADOFF stole from your stupid ass. But being the coward you are its easier to attack women.
Screamingdk 3 years ago
i dont even know wtf is madoff....and if you support her doing what she did then just say so
madmanis12345 3 years ago
Does anyone know which doctor did Nadyas tummy tuck surgery...I hope California TAXES did not pay for it. She went from 190 pounds to 135 lbs. in a week!!! She was poor i month a go and now is a miilionaire people!!! While we are in an economic crisis, we make her priority!!! Then all girls will model after this and get pregnant! NICE going Nadya!!!!!!!
SwedishLicorice 3 years ago
Good question - was her tumy tuck free too?
lailagordon 3 years ago
For every mother who is pouncing on Ms. Suleman, how many mothers are actually raising their own children? She stated her decision to be implanted again was wrong. How many judgemental mothers over Suleman even want to raise their own children? Most mothers plop them with strangers in a daycare until they go to school, spending only a couple hours a day with them. Which is worse: To want to be a mom, or to want to just "look" like a mom while your children are raised by strangers every day?
DKMontoya4670 3 year