We Are Change Utah Confronts Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff

[nesNYC]

Keep the pressure up folks, make the crooks EVERYWHERE sweat!

[zackzelmo]

How have so many of these NWO shills called political office holders get into and then stay in office? It is really appalling how OUR country has been taken over by these traitors.

[homeoftheslave]

this guys a tyrant

not the we are change dude that criminal hes talking to

[homeoftheslave]

this guys a tyrant



[MrAzdaz]

Good way to discredit the conspiracy theorist for in some peoples eye with the republican fringe hi-jacking it.I mean the whole of Utah state

[popas7]

Pathetic- but the end is near- get ready spiritually....

[WawsestilL]

Do you guys no have chance, americans trash.

Stop this lenga lenga. The time to do something already passed. Motherfuckers. Will fill the tank of your car with stolen oil from Iraq and closes its dirty mouth.

Go home to make babies to meet the needs of the american army and police.

Motherfuckers.

[PatriotsUnite2010]

@wacutah Second Idea - TAKE ACTION !

CONSTITUTIONAL AND STATUTORY IMPEACHMENT PROVISIONS

High crimes and misdemeanors, or malfeasance in Office

Malfeasance is used to denote outright sabotage which causes intentional damage.

LEGALLY REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE

[PatriotsUnite2010]

@wacutah Some observations...

1) He appears too prepared responding to this issue

2) Clearly, He is overstepping in his authority to make judgments on evidence - thats the resposibility of the courts

3) It looks like He feels his job is threatened by this discussion

4) Solution - Vote him out of Office asap

[Zero1RR]

great work man but you should get a Dmic (shotgun mic) with a dead cat and it should clear up your audio.

[432b86ed]

The last word out of Clint's mouth, if I'm not mistaken, was "duty" or "responsibility"...

drowned out by the m.c. over the p.a.. We've tried being diplomatic. We've tried

being nice. We're running out of time. I'm with Clint.

Accountability NOW.

[santacruzchembusters]

this guy scuttles away like ants from a magnifying glass. Cockroach. He definitely knew how bad you had him!

[sssssjjjj1]

Hey people. 40 some odd cars at street level burst into flames from the heat produced by the controlled demolition. How could they have got scorched by being 70 yards, not feet, away from the twins. Only high explosives could have done this. Case closed to anyone with a lick of sense.

[sssssjjjj1]

you keep it up wac. That man is a coward. Science means nothing. He is a coward. Anyone who can't see it was all bs is an idiot. No wreckage at pentagon. no wreckage at Shanksville. I have a masters degree in the science of physics with an emphasis on metals. If you believe the msm and the gov. then next time a building needs to be demolished lets just start a fire anywhere in the building. ahahhahaha

[Germanboy567]

damn they must hate us, "We are Change" people...

[teaboyaudio]

It's good to see someone give an honest answer to these guys instead of playing politician and being polite.

[NRen2k5]

Truthers fail as always.

[Batta0909]

HAHAHA THEY CALLED YOU A TEA TYPE

[ISamuelII]

UAG MS is a toe tapper, he can't turn on his lovers.

[psyleo7]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

[pierstheoneandonly]

Oh dear oh dearie me! Like practicing Jedis, how many Truthers would have guessed when they saw the first episode, the X-Files would provide the scripture for them to live their dismal lives by.

[depleteduraniumiswmd]

United States Government are terrorists, drug smugglers, war criminals, and horrific liars.

9-11 was an inside job! 9-11 official story was a lie! What happened to building 7?

Where's the evidence that kerosene fires melted steel?

How did the huge molten pools of steel get under the twin towers and building 7?

Depleted uranium is a weapon of mass destruction!

Play Wall Street like a PONZI SCHEME!

The elections are rigged, unsecure voting machines & ballots!

NASA is a complete FRAUD!

[grandmastershek]

nanothermite is now an explosive? utah now has jurisdiction outside its boarders? do you ppl think you can just wish your beliefs into reality?

btw bentham has shown all the trappings of a vanity journal and no peer review. search "marie paule resigns", "editors bentham resign", and "CRAP paper bentham".

[BladeUtah]

@grandmastershek Jurisdiction moot. USC Title 18 § 2382:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

[grandmastershek]

@BladeUtah

touche'

now all we need is some evidence.

[Jjinn1]

@grandmastershek

You again?

a highly exothermic reaction... depends on the definition... You can actually kill a man with a frozen chicken... But a frozen chicken is not a weapon by definition...

[grandmastershek]

@Jjinn1

did you have a point or were just stating the obvious? again...evidence?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Yes there is there is NANO RDX which is NANO THERMITE with NANO SIZED PARTICLES mixed with RDX making it less volatile and more explosive. Look it up for yourself. H6 HMX are the two main types from the military. Jone's paper is peer reviewed. Where is all of these other Scientists, Architects, and Engineers that do not work for the Government? 90% of funding for NIST comes from the Government. The patent on NANO RDX and NANO THERMITE is owned by the Government. That is FACT.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

oh i see, you're here to just make baseless claims and require others to prove it for you.

sure his paper was peer reviewed. thats why multiple bentham editors, including the one for the jones paper resigned because they obviously don't. plus i love how they spam authors and referees who have no authority in the research they recruit for.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

google:

"bentham editors resign earlham"

"marie-paule resigns bentham videnskab"

"bentham spam yale"

"CRAP paper bentham sciencenews"

for some reason i cant post the URL's, even modified.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Look it up for yourself... Do you know what thermite is? Do you know what NANO Thermite (Thermate) is? Do you know what NANO RDX (H6 or HMX) is? You say it does not give NANO RDX... MOAB (Mother of All Bombs) Project was made with it. Government owns the patent of it... They also own the patent of thermate. You are an utterly helpless dumbfounded retarded lost soul...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

oh right, just unload your nonsense and declare others need to prove it for you.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Yea I just drop the info on here and let you look for it because I sent you resources and you did not look at them... If you can not take a week to look into the reality of 9/11 then I would have to say you have some issues. You are an idiot nothing more. You can't even take criticism. Constructive at that... If I say hey this is how it is you should say nothing until you research it for yourself. You made a fool out of yourself.

[grandmastershek]

ROFL! you sent me WAC falselyu claiming jones's NT research was peer reviewed as well as saying naothermite is explosive. too stupid for words.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Where is this link copy it and paste it liar.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

sorry, my bad. it was the link youtube sent automatically with your message from this page.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

I mean seeing as how the only links I sent you are the ones in the comment below.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You call me a liar but yet do not even look into what I say... Had you looked into what I said you would have had to say sorry CTRACK I am a dumbass and you are right. It does give everything you said. IGNORANCE IS BLISS isn't it?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Nanotec­hnology

wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Nano-th­ermite

wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/RDX

dtic(dot)mil/ndia/2007im_em/AB­riefs/7Patel(dot)pdf

globalsecurity(dot)org/militar­y/systems/munitions/explosives­-compositions(dot)htm

globalsecurity(dot)org/militar­y/systems/munitions/moab(dot)h­tm

nano(dot)gov/html/facts/faqs(d­ot)html

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Now look into it and tell me that it is not true idiot.

Most of those are (dot)gov sites. I have more if you would like it...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger actually most are wiki. you can;t even get that accurate. i never said they don't exist. nice strawman jackass.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Actually 3 are WIKI and 4 are Government sites. As we can see you have no idea how to count yet... And you want me to quote what you wrote saying I am a liar and that it does not give super thermite and super duper RDX?

[grandmastershek]

ROFL! .org jackass. global is not a govt agency.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You do realize that working for the MIC(Military Industrial Complex) is working for the interests of the Government right? Funding comes 100% from the Government... You do realize this right?

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

LOL! so you start off by claiming they are (dot)gov's, then claim they are government websites, now you're claiming they are indirectly government agencies based on your unestablished claim of 100% of their funding from the government and selling to the government (even though they advertise their services and products to the public). what's next?

watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Unestablished? You are a total rock... Raythion, KBR, DS2, Black Water, LLNL, INEL, Los Alamos National Laboratories, among many others are government funded programs retard. It is established and has been for over 60 years now.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

how does that prove that global is 100% funded by them and is a govt entity? oh right it doesn't. you're making shit up again.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

MIC idiot Military Industrial Complex... LLNL or better known as Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories CREATED the STUFF and it was patented in the year 2000 by LLNL. Again you have no Idea what you are talking about. Los Alamos is a sister Lab to LLNL and Berkley National Laboratory is also a sister Lab to LLNL. Type any of those 3 into the search bar and hit enter. Go to those sites and tell me what you see for funding?? Dumb ass...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

and what does that have to do with global again? oh right you need to change the subject.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Who said anything about GLOBAL? I stated they are funded by the government should I copy and PASTE that as well to prove you are a total idiot. NMT is not LANL or LLNL and they are not related... NMT did not create NANO Thermite LLNL did... Do research dumb ass because I can one up you every time.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

you did jackass. you cited them as govt website, failed to back that up, then claimed they were 100% funded by the govt and then failed to back that up too. but as we are seeing with regard to NMT and los alamos, what you believe is reality regardless of the facts.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You are too stupid!!!! I COPIED AND PASTED the facts here that they are not together. Now go get some proof they are connected at all? Anything??? That is Fact FACE IT you got upped and you got busted out. You seem to have no clue at all.... Read the facts retard.... I posted 3 EXCERPTS from WIKI. One on NMT, one on LLNL, and one on LANL. Not that they have something to do with one another those are 3 different EXCERPTS DUMBASS....

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

well i would call los alamos and inform them that students and faculty have been wandering around haphazardly using their equipment for some time.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Get this through your head just because they are both in NM does not mean they are affiliated... Understand that yet LANL is not part of any college. It is part of the DOE... It has no ties to NMT at all. Do we understand each other yet? If not get on the phone and ask them, but do not be surprised when they say they are not affiliated...

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

That is like saying LLNL (Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories) who hold the patent for the Hydrogen Bomb and Thermate along with numerous patents of other bombs and arms. They are a CIVILIAN RAN GOVERNMENT FUNDED Operation. Meaning that civilians run the place and do the research but the government gets all of the gadgets it creates because they pay for it.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

yeah they call them contracts jackass.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Another comment from you.

"nanothermite is now an explosive? utah now has jurisdiction outside its boarders? do you ppl think you can just wish your beliefs into reality?

btw bentham has shown all the trappings of a vanity journal and no peer review. search "marie paule resigns", "editors bentham resign", and "CRAP paper bentham"."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

I would have at least thought you had a little BRAIN FUNCTIONS in your head to delete those comments after writing that you never said it....

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

wtf are you babbling about? nano thermite is not an explosive. added to explosives it becomes explosive i guess. but if we add apple cider to TNT its explosive too. numerous demonstrations of NT (Jones & Van Romero) by itself shows its not explosives as it burns over a recordable period of time and provides no shockwave.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Adding NANO SIZED METAL OXIDES to RDX creates a lot more explosive energy and heat energy when detonated. The problem with adding these nano particles is that it stabilizes the RDX. When this happens it needs VERY HIGH TEMPERATURES to ignite the NANO PARTICLES to use the OXYGEN in the OXIDES. That is where THERMITE and THERMATE come in as the detonator...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

so how does that make nanothermite explosive? detonators are not inherently explosives. therefore electricity is an explosive as it used to detonate explosives. its fairly simple...provide a case of nanothermite being ignited by itself and demonstrating explosive properties or an actual source saying NT is an explosive in and of itself. i can back up my claims...can you? but i think its cute how your trying to wiggle your way into reality .

around 2:30 watch?v=nrGxzsxSqMk

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

If it has any last part of RDX on it it will make it extremely explosive. NANO THERMITE IS NOT THERMITE. Even Jesse Venture does not have ACCESS to get NANO THERMITE. Just the same as we do not have access to the 236 pieces of salvaged metal from the WTC buildings 1,2, and 7. The process of making and finding the nano sized particles is long and hard. Now when you speak about THERMITE and adding Sulfer Oxide to it does not make the particles NANO SIZED. It does get hotter.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

keep dancing. i claimed nanothermite is not explosive. now your trying to graft RDX to it in anyway you can to avoid admitting you have not a single shred of an argument. i never said NT was thermite. trust i me i know you can't handle the actual argument but making up irrelevant ones won't help you.

ventura didn't provide the NT, van romero of los alamos labs (one of the developers) did. guess what? not explosive. oh well, your new clothers sure are swell highness.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Did you research a damn thing I posted for links? I doubt you did because had you you would realize this.... It was not Los Alamos that conducted that test it was New Mexico Tech. As I suspected you have no comprehension skills....

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

@ctrackmonger

too stupid for words. NMT has its facilities at los alamos. los alamos is in NM.

infohost[dot]nmt[dot]edu/~mtls­/

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You are to stupid for words...

"Los Alamos National Laboratory (or LANL; previously known at various times as Site Y, Los Alamos Laboratory, and Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory) is a United States Department of Energy (DOE) national laboratory, managed and operated by Los Alamos National Security, LLC (LANS), located in Los Alamos, New Mexico. "

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

LOL! wow...so NMT doesn't have labs at los alamos? you better inform them because apparently van romero have been conducting research there, including nanomaterials. but you say it ain't so, therefore it is.

infohost[dot]nmt[dot]edu/~red/­van[dot]html

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

NMT is in another CITY then LOS ALAMOS it is in Socorro, New Mexico for the reading IMPAIRED that was an EXCERPT from WIKI and you can not read English can you???? So yes I am stating that NMT is not based at LANL... They have nothing to do with one another.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

i never said NMT was based in LA. i am saying that they do research in los alamos labs, which they themselves confirm, but apparently they dont because you say so. for some reason you think that becasue you believe they don't that somehow proves that they dont do research there'even though they say they do & the professor i cited from NMT lists it on his CV as the place he does his research. oh well, truthers have never been know for their strong grasp of reality..

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You need to research... Affiliated Programs of NMT are New Mexico Bureau of Geology and Mineral Resources

Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center

Institute for Complex Additive Systems Analysis

IRIS PASSCAL Instrument Center[3]

Langmuir Laboratory for Atmospheric Research

Magdalena Ridge Observatory

National Cave and Karst Research Institute

National Radio Astronomy Observatory

Petroleum Recovery Research Center

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

obviously...

"Sandia, Los Alamos, New Mexico Tech to team on energetic materials research Officials of Sandia National Laboratories, Los Alamos National Laboratory, and the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology this week are establishing the Center for Energetic Materials and Energetic Devices (CEMED)

sandia[dot]gov/news-center/new­s-releases/2003/mat-chem/cemed­-mou[dot]html

oh well, it's not the first time i have met a truther whose idea of "research" is wikipedia.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

First of all you are a liar...

it is Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center (EMRTC) not (CEMED) as you state. Here is the link to their web page...

emrtc(dot)nmt(dot)edu/

nmt(dot)edu/

The second is the link to the COLLEGE WEB PAGE. Look at the web site and tell me they have shit to do with LANL.. You are an idiot...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

ever think 1. i din;t write it given there is quotation marks and there actually might be a CEMED not from NMT? plus it refers to the NM inst. of mining, which is part of NM tech.

ees[dotnmt[dot]edu (at the bottom)

oh well, what have we learned? LANL and NMT are not working together because you say so in spit of the fact that they and other numerous sources say they do. so when will you be dictating reality again?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

This is the same thing you did when I stated that there was NANO RDX. You are a mindless person... I have laid it out on the table now show me your references to prove you are right and not a news article....

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

you mean the dozen citations from los alamos, new mexico tech, and other sources? oh right..truthers can;t see evidence to the contrary. but as usual you are running around in a circle because like every other truther you can;t back shit up.

i said nanothermite is not explosive, not nano rdx or any other explosive. thank you for proving yet again that the truth movement is comprised of loons and morons.

[grandmastershek]

@crackmonger

so when you are ready....show how LA and NMT are lying in their own statements. show how nanothermite itself is explosive. dont worry we both know you can't.'

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

NMT does not have NANO THERMITE. NMT did not create NANO THERMITE. It was a conference. There has been a total of 2 of them... Just because they meet up 2 times does not mean they discuss their patents with others. When can you admit that NMT was not using the FACILITIES at LANL? That they were there for a conference? A one day conference at that...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

when you can show how by their own admission of using the labs there that they are wrong.

quick! get your fingers in your ears! inconvenient information ahead!

" In addition to sophisticated equipment on the Tech campus, extensive laboratory and research facilities are available at...Los Alamos National Laboratory. "

infohost[dot]nmt[dot]edu/~mtls­/

obviously lying.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Get the fuck out of here no they are not using each others facilities. NMT has their own FACILITY for making and testing explosives. Subsequently they do not have a facility for NANO TECHNOLOGY. Read the damn thread I posted and you will understand that it is a 1 day CONFERENCE and not that they are using each others LABS...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

oh...i guess they just say that for shits and giggles.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Now do you see the parts where they state CONFERENCE and 2nd ANNUAL? Do you see that shit? Idiot. I admited that it gave CEMED but it is not the sharing of each others facilities. And what LLNL or LANL created for nanotechnology does not have to be discussed with RIVAL scientists it is under patent until 2050. Meaning they have tio have special permission to make and use it...

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Just to let you know there is a total of 1 article on the Center for Energetic Materials and Energetic Devices. Sandia is also a nation laboratory. Just because they are related through this so called (CEMED) does not mean that the Dr. at NMT created NANO THERMITE. On the contrary it is documented that LLNL created it and owns the PATENT of it. They do not have the capabilities to make it at NMT and LANL also does not. The only place doing research on it is LANL in California.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

really? they don't? and you know this how? or is this another point where because you say so equals fact?

apparently they think they do...

pearl1[dot]lanl[dot]gov/extern­al/chemistry/capabilities[dot]­shtml

let me guess...."LALALALALALALA!!!

[ctrackmonger]

Read the posts...

nmt(dot)edu/news/all-news/16-2­007/2965-1mar01g it is a conference not a damn research study group... It has been held TWICE one time at LANL in 2003 and one time at NMT in 2007

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

ahh yes, i guess that somehow means that if they hold the conference that they cant do research there.'

so how do you respond to LA saying they have the facilities?

this has to be one the best examples of truther denial i have ever seen.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"The conference program included several technical talks given throughout the day, as well as an afternoon tour of EMRTCs Femtosecond Laser Cutting Work Station, a specialized laser unit that allows the research division to cut and form energetic and non-energetic materials with powerful, ultra-short pulses of energy that last only a few hundred femtoseconds. A femtosecond is one-quadrillionth of a second, or one-millionth of one-billionth of a second."

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

uh huh...so how does that negate NMT and los alamos both saying that NMT uses their facitlities, and LA saying they can make nanothermite?

just waiting for you to get around to that.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Where does LNAL say they let them use their facilities? Why does NMT have their own if they USE LANL's Facilities. Again Can you not read? It is a

C-O-N-F-E-R-E-N-C-E I spelled it out for you in plane English. Learn to read FUCKTARD. I can not stand people like you you are retarded. I posted that shit in full on here and admitted that it gave the CONFERENCE but no where do they state that they use each others facilities. They just team up at the conference.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

i never said they use LNAL. seriosly just keep talking in circles, both NMT and LAL say they use the LAL facilities. your denial isnt evidence of anything but your stupidity.

"Researchers at New Mexico Tech will be allowed to use the Laboratory's facilities, resources, and intellectual capabilities, while Los Alamos scientists and engineers will be encouraged to actively participate in New Mexico Tech academic and research programs as part of their work with the national lab."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Are you serious? I am the supposed kook but you can not remember what you wrote 30 min.s ago. I can copy and paste. that is not a problem as I have proven. You also stated that the scientist of NMT who was on Conspiracy Theories created NANO THERMITE at NMT. I am not the one running in circles you are. You can not even get your facts straight.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

" Featured speaker for the CEMED Conference was New Mexico Tech mechanical engineering professor Sayavur Bakhtiyarov, who spoke on The Explosive Engineering Program at New Mexico Tech: Past, Present, and Future.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"CEMED is an umbrella organization comprised of New Mexico Tech, Sandia National Laboratories, and Los Alamos National Laboratories, whose primary focus is on understanding and studying the properties of energetic materials and devices, such as industrial explosives and military munitions."

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

i thought you said LA "has no ties to NMT at all".

yup...this is how you get the "truth".

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

That is the full article from NMT... Full as in all of it. Read it dumb ass you seem to be in denial because you just got schooled by a truther...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger  "LALALALALALALA!!!!"

oh indeed.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

No where else can you find that they are teaming up for testing except that article... Now I will tell you what CEMED is it is a CONFERENCE nothing more it was hosted in 2003 at Sandia and in 2007 at NMT. This does not mean they are working under one roof it simply means they held a conference....

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

well aside from their own admissions that is. but you say "NUH UH!". so i guess they are wrong.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

What admissions? The addmission that they have held 2 ANNUAL CONFERENCE'S under the UMBRELLA NAME CEMED? Where do they admit to using each others FACILITIES? It is a conference for Crist's Sake. Read the thread idiot...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

admission from LAL and NMT that they have and use facilities at LAL. oh well you can keep dancing in a circle. you have done enough to prove your just another hopeless kook.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

You are correct they use the facilities at LANL and SNL they also have the capabilities to produce nm 2000 scale at NMT.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

yup...the EMRTC is lying too apparently "Throughout its 50+ years history, EMRTC has a well-earned reputation for responsive, cost-effective, and technically reliable work. Its highly experienced, technically proficient team of more than 100 multi-talented profession-als perform in-depth scientific investigations...in conjunction with/or for...Los Alamos, Sandia, and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories"

asishouston . org/Education/2004SeminarData/­guido%20brochure . pdf

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

No where in NMT's website do they even have a NANO TECHNOLOGY program. You need the program to get nano sized particle to mix in with your thermite. Without that they can not and I repeat can not produce nano thermite.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"The laboratory is one of the largest science and technology institutions in the world that conducts multidisciplinary research for fields such as national security, outer space, renewable energy, medicine, nanotechnology, and supercomputing."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology (also called New Mexico Tech, and was originally known as the New Mexico School of Mines) is a university located in Socorro, New Mexico."

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

ROFL! you can't read can you?

"IN ADDITION to sophisticated equipment on the Tech campus, extensive laboratory and research facilities are available at Kirtland Air Force Base, Sandia National Laboratories, and LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LABORATORY."

infohost[dot]nmt[dot]edu/~mtls­/

but i guess you know better.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) in Livermore, California is a scientific research laboratory founded by the University of California in 1952. It is primarily funded by the United States Department of Energy (DOE) and managed and operated by Lawrence Livermore National Security, LLC (LLNS), a partnership of the University of California, Bechtel Corporation, Babcock and Wilcox, the URS Corporation, and Battelle Memorial Institute."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"On October 1, 2007 LLNS assumed management of LLNL from the University of California, which had exclusively managed and operated the Laboratory since its inception 55 years before."

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

so? i never said they ran the place, just that they use facilities there. you do know they can do work there w/o actually running the place right? you do know that universities do cooperative work right? damn...i guess anything and everything to maintain a delusion.

have you called them yet to let them know about the trespassing NMT personnel?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Stop writting me with this shit... You HAVE NO CLUE what the fuck I am saying... It is a national lab. It has Classified materials. It has many details of nuclear programs. NMT has their own Explosives Testing Facility on their CAMPUS.... Why would a school with all of this need to use the A NATIONAL LAB... Do not get me wrong I live close to INEL and it is used by students. But ISU also does not have the testing centers as NMT does...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

uh huh... ""This partnership will allow New Mexico Tech to participate...in the outstanding science for which Los Alamos is known...Los Alamos and New Mexico Tech have identified five research areas...that will be supported under the MOU as available funds permit, including...materials engineering and energetic materials."

yup...."It has no ties to NMT at all". obviously...

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Go look at the NMT website and see the affiliates. Look at the programs offered to NMT. Nano Thermite has nothing to do with Mining... Maybe if you stated NANO RDX then it is believable but you seem to be stuck in a world all of your own...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

oh sure...so NMT, LA, and the EMRTC dept themselves say they work together', but they dont because you say so.'i thought you said LA and NM tech had no relationship? moving the goals posts?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Once again I have provided you with the resources to find it and you still refuse to research it. Not all of my research comes from WIKI I have been to so many sites in during my research to cross reference shit. You seem to have got your info from a new article and not the NMT website itself. Show me where it states that at NMT?

[ctrackmonger]

@ctrackmonger

You seem to have gotten your info from a NEWS ARTICLE not the NMT Programs List...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

right..well they provide all the contact info you need and appears to be from NMT. why not make some calls. apparently everyone is lying because you say so.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

no you appealed to silence. try again little truther. let me guess, you don;t knwo what that means.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

oh right aside from wiki is you running around to whatever page doesnt say they do, while ignoring everyone that does. oh well such is the twoof.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

"SOCORRO, N.M., March 1, 2007 New Mexico Techs Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center (EMRTC) recently hosted the Second Annual Center for Energetic Materials and Energetic Devices (CEMED) Conference, a daylong event held this past Tuesday that focused on Femtosecond Lasers, Energetic Materials, and Energetic Devices."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

I am done with you your ignorance is pissing me off especially when I send you the links and you still have no clue. Get with it man I can say everything I want. But you can not argue what the University offers when they do not offer such a program...

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

ROFL!

"An introduction to physical basics of nanosystems, physics and chemistry of nanostructure synthesis and fabrication. Other topics include: semiconductor nanostructures, magnetic nanostructures and spintronics, molecular nanostructures, electron transport in nanosystems, optical effects in nanosystems, nanomachines, nanoscale biological assemblies, nanocomposite materials."

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Also i have been on National Lab Properties. You can not access the units but can drive through the property. It is not like these student can just visit there when they need resources. LANL is not part of that school and the only schools it is affiliated with is Florida State University and University of Florida. Other then that is not affiliated with any other school... Get it yet you are a retard nothing more?

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Do you understand this? He can just whip up thermite with sulfer real easy. The problem is whiping up NANO THERMITE with the NANO particles and using the sol gel process to mix it is time consuming and not possible to make that easy. There is a big difference between micron sized particles and nano sized particles.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

well you say so therefore its true i guess. sorry guy, they developed the stuff...i'll have to take his word over our resident internet scholar who just claimed ventura has no access to it but has no problem pretending he has such a fine understanding of something so allegedly secret.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

But I will agree with you it is bad investigating by Jesse Ventures Crew to not know what they were looking for.

[ctrackmonger]

@grandmastershek

Also wanted to state this because you are all over the We Are Change Utah movement that you probably come from Utah. Well no offense to anyone else from Utah but I am from Idaho and this guy here gives people from Utah the name of UTARDS.... Matter of fact I live real close to SLC and you my friend are totally retarded.

[grandmastershek]

@ctrackmonger

actually no, i am from neither utah nor idaho. i'm from a state that values education. oh well, let the ad hom continue, its all you got.

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@ctrackmonger

There is no such thing as nano thermite explosives and even if there were it wouldn't make em any quieter. sorry.

[ctrackmonger]

@TheSkepticalIdealist

The Nano sized Aluminum Oxide contains oxygen and is extremely reactive the smaller they get. They release massive amounts of energy in turn making the cutting power and temperatures hotter. There for you need less explosives to finish the project making it not as loud due to reduction in amounts...

dtic(dot)mil/ndia/2007im_em/AB­riefs/7Patel(dot)pdf

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@ctrackmonger

Nothing about thermite in there, correct?

Where does it talk about it not being loud?

People like Richard Gage think steel was flung around by intense explosives, this cannot be made quieter. It has to produce a blast wave to do that and you cannot create a silent blast wave because a blast wave IS sound.

[ctrackmonger]

@TheSkepticalIdealist

Who says it is thermite? No one ever claimed it was thermite... But the funny part is it uses metal oxides the same as thermite. Aluminum Oxide, Silicon Oxide, Iron Oxide, among other metal oxides... The only difference is the nano scale. Yes using less of something that is more powerful in cutting and temperatures will surely make less sound... You are using less what do you not understand about that????

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@ctrackmonger

Who says its thermite? Steven Jones, Richard Gage? Guys like that? Even you did, when you said "Yes there is there is NANO RDX which is NANO THERMITE"

, remember?

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Using less of something which is more powerfull in cutting will be quieter! Yes! Its a shame then that the truth movement can't generally understand that and talk about squibs and steel being flung around by quiet explosives. Even Steven Jones says nano thermite was just "matches" for conventional explosives.

[ctrackmonger]

@TheSkepticalIdealist

Yes they say they found thermite. And if you researched nano rdx I just stated it is more stable due to the fact that the nano particles added to the RDX it has to be ignited with very high temps. They use the thermitic process to detonate the charges....

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@ctrackmonger

Steven Jones offered two uses for thermite, I dont know if this is a contractdiction of it he has changed his mind. But A: That it was used as a match to light conventional explosives like C4 or HMX (yes, he said that) and B: That if you paint nano thermite onto steel beams and it dries it becomes a high explosive.

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Do you agree with that?

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I also want to know if you agree with Gage that thinks nano thermite can make explosives capable of flinging steel around quietly?

[Camyum]

Good job Gentlemen

[MTL911Truth]

Yes but the Utah AG is exactly right. Because he is a State official of Utah he has no jurisdiction therefore there is no misprision of treason. If he was the FEDERAL Attorney General then he would have jurisdiction and a duty to act. His dismissal of the evidence without investigating it is very closed-minded of him, but he could not be held liable for misprision of treason.

[pjt03]

People though Harry Markopolus was crazy for saying the Largest Hedge Fund in the World was a Ponzi scheme. Guess what he was correct & Bernie Madoff is now in jail.

[awish4truth]

This we are change guy has balls the size of coconuts , He stays so cool .

Shurtleff read it but he doesn't no what says or what its called ?

Wilful ignorance is no excuse under the law . Shurtleff is as guilty as the guys who set the bombs .

[niverent]

@awish4truth I respectfully disagree. You have to remember how crazy the inside job theory sounds before you actually look at the evidence. What happened is the WAC guy attacked and threatened the Attorney and he defended himself. Now to reduce cognitive dissonance he is going to find reasons why his behavior was justified which will make him very anti-truth. This is exactly how NOT to go about getting people to look at the evidence.

[TheGoodnessIsGood]

Man, you guys are nailing this shit down with some hardcore precision. YEAH! TRUTH!!!! Can you see the arrogance of these people "in power", just crumbling in the face of simple questions. CRUMBLING. EXPOSED. Yeah man... this is fantastic. 911 was *another* inside job.

[simonnaylor]

@TheGoodnessIsGood "I don't care man!" If Mark Shurtleff had actually read the peer reviewed documents he would most likely have found away to do something about it and bring the important information to the attention of others. It is in all of our best interest (worldwide) that the information is looked and investigated properly.

[SuspiciousPatriot]

The official "story" of 911 is - dead.

911 Was "Another" Inside Job!

[BudhistPanda]

WAC - you make me proud. I spoke with Niels Harrit yesterday, he is going to become a full time 9/11 truther soon, and he do much amazing work here in Denmark and around the world. I have seen his lecture on WTC7 and nanothermite 18 times now, and you are right Clint, it sure is concrete evidence. Keep up you good work, greetings from 911 truth in Denmark :)

[nheiles]

"Tea Types"! Clint said we are from WE ARE CHANGE. Great job Clint

[gregman909]

Clint-1

Shurtleff-NATTA!

[WeAreChangeIdaho]

Wow, "it's not concrete evidence". WTF? Good job WAC Utah, Idaho salutes you!!!! Keep it up!

[BladeUtah]

Well done, Clint, way to press the matter. If he needs more evidence, we can certainly deliver it to him personally.

[BladeUtah]

Very well done, Clint, press the issue!

[dasnasdi]

Thanks for posting this. There was absolutely no way to tell what the exchange was about from the very brief clip that ch4 showed gave us.