First of all how was this even legal ? You mean if a relative like my wife for example died in a hospital I could tell them to put her in a wheel chair so I could put her in the car and take her home to sleep with for the night ? Of course not that's insane and illegal. I'm sure Sanatorium being a Senator played a role in this.
People say this is a "private" thing, hey this guy wants to be president and have his finger on the nuclear trigger and you don't think his mental state is important ?
Actually I do have experience in raising children. Have been caring for children for 40 years. I would not expect your grandmother to bring your grandfather's body home to you any more than I would expect anyone who has not lost a child. An infant is a different matter. Bringing a infant home to the children not allowed in the hospital and depending on religious beliefs, allowed at the funeral is a way for them to say hello and good-bye.
You can only understand what he did if you have lost a child before, I have and at the time I was in ICU, when my mommy and my son held my full term baby. Guess what this was the best thing for my 3 years old son, because he could connect with my baby and now when he ask about my son, he's saids mommy I know Zeven is in heaven with God. Doctors and nurses recommend the bond so you want grieve as much.
No wonder Rick Santorum is unpopular and loses elections. He`s a NUT !! Full of arrogance too...just makes him look worse. an arrogant nutcase....get the van ready, time to take the loons to the psych ward. Everything about Rick Santorm is unusual and bizarre, but this reallt takes the cake. Why show those children a dead baby ??What is the purpose of it >? I bet he had them touching the corpse too. This is not the way to explain death to children.
@marksallow How would YOU explain death to a child? You have obviously not experienced the death OF a child, not have you experienced death of a loved one AS a child or you would not be calling this FATHER nuts.
I have experienced the death of a loved one AS a child at a time when death was NOT explained to children. I was traumatized for several years afterwards. I have also experienced the death of an infant. The infant was not my own but his death had a profound effect on his cousins.
@LadyAuthor47 Well, obviously you don`t have experience in raising children. I was told about God and death at an early age, My grandfather died when I was 5, and we went to see him in the FUNERAL HOME......no, my grandma didn`t load his dead corpse over to our house to look at. It`s BIZZARRE BEHAVIOR....what did he tell them to do, kiss it ? But then again, Santorum is a NUTCASE anyway.
@LadyAuthor47 and also, all you have to tell children when someone dies is they went to Heaven.....simple....I lost a sister ate ate 10 too, but with the loving and gentle explanation from my parents was that she was with God and went to heaven...Nuff said !! Yes, I missed her, but I was not traumatized for years.
@LadyAuthor47 ...give it up lady, you`re as nuts as Santorum. My parents GENTLY explained death as it`s when people go to heaven to be with God....now, that is not traumatizing, but you obviously think it is. My God, You make it sound like they told me gory details. Now please leave me alone.
I saw Santorum questioned on this and he says his wife is a neonatal nurse and this is a recommended action. Personally, I think it's a bit macabre, but again, it is a personal decision. Alan's saying they took it home and played with it for a few hours so they'd know it was real is every bit as sick, even more so. At least the Santorums supposedly had the right intentions. Alan on the other hand is just cruel and ignorant of human emotion and respect.
@AbbasGrl I can't stomach Alan. He is so smug, arrogant, and completely devoid of the capability of relating to other human beings. I have no idea what he's doing on TV.
I see this as no different than the custom of viewing the dead bodies of our friends and family members in funeral homes and churches. While some say they would not bring home the bodies of their children's grandparents, that is exactly what people did before funeral homes and some still do. Sadly, it has become more acceptable for our parents/grandparents to die in a nursing home than at home. Death is as natural as birth.
While I would never bring my dead child home for my other children "to experience", the fact that Alan brought up the issue at all is completely unacceptable. I refuse to watch this repulsive man in the future. When he comes on, I will simply switch off Fox.
That was a cheap shot. We lost a baby at birth years ago, and I know how it feels too. We took a photo as our other kids wanted to see what he looked like.This just shows Colmes using whatever it takes to push his left wing views no matter who he hurts.
Bringing a corpse home for your children to pass around IS morbid, grotesque, and irresponsible, not matter how old they are at the time of death.
I would not bring home my children's dead grandparents, other parent, or sibling and let them handle and poke at the body for hours. I would not even allow this with a PET. Not allowing this does make that person any less precious; it has to do with respect for the dead and knowing what is age-appropriate and sanitary postmortem.
@NaturalGrace They "slept" with it! 4444999955555555 would have us believe that the Santorums were merely having a 'funeral' for this poor baby. I don't know ANYone who takes their loved ones' dead bodies home to SLEEP WITH it.
@theonlykatii : cite your sources when you make accusations like this. Furthermore, is bringing home the body any different than conducting a funeral in a more "traditional" manner? Or cremating the body and putting the ashes in an urn and placing it on the fireplace mantel? Of course not. What is going on here is a societal need to PRE-JUDGE for political reasons. PERIOD. Muslims murdered on 9/11 and were called "brave". Gay Pride Parades feature lewd acts and are called "choice".
@4444999955555555 "lewd" LOL That explains 'you' numbername. You need say no more. Yes, "sleeping" with a corpse is infinitely different than a funeral or a cremation. Duh.
Oh, the source was Mrs. Santorum in her book (you could have looked that up yourself duh), but I must make one correction. Mr. and Mrs. slept with their dead baby at the hospital 'before' they took it home to the kids.
@theonlykatii : "lewd" - that also explains YOU. Masterbating in the middle of the street is not lewd? Because that is some of the nicer things that go on during so-called "gay pride parades". It would lead to arrest for indecent exposure for anyone else. It's tragic how liberals distort behavior so that people who honor human life are framed to be "sick" and people who are truly sick--like those who publicly expose themselves in "gay-pride" parades, are framed to be "normal".
@4444999955555555 How many "gay parades" have you ever attended? Zero? Thought so. I have never seen anyone "masturbating" in any kind of parade. Can you cite your source for this accusation? I doubt it, and if you do it will probably be from some radical loony-tune fundy neocon warmongering publication. At any rate, I happen to have several close friends who are gay and they are anything but "lewd" - they are very conservative and quite modest in fact. Stop stereotyping for God's sake.
@theonlykatii : I know gay people, too, and I get along with them quite well. It's not stereotyping--the "gay pride" parades are political and do not represent all gay people. The only person who insinuated that is YOU to conveniently miss the point that folks like you turn a blind eye to "politically correct" people groups and all of THEIR LEWD behavior (including masterbating in the street and other acts) and yet zero in on someone else's behavior you do not understand and JUDGE them for it.
@4444999955555555 finding out about sleeping with his dead baby just added to the pile of sickness in the man who would be King. I understand his behavior and his motives perfectly. Of course I judge him for it, just not because I don't "understand" it. You are the one passing judgement on someone you know nada about and accusing them of doing something that never happened, like "turning a blind eye... How can I "turn a blind eye" to something I was not aware of? You can't, but you did :)
And where's that evidence of "gay pride" paraders masturbating on street corners? Hmmm... but there is this at HuffPost: Grant Storms Arrested: Anti-Gay Christian Pastor Charged Over Public Masturbation
@theonlykatii : well, if all you read is libtard rags like Huffington Post, that's all the censored news you are going to get. My word, your denial is beyond belief. I would be more than happy to GOOGLE IT myself by typing in 'gay pride parade lewd acts masterbating' and posting the results if that's what it will take to get you to pull your head out of the sand of denial on this gay-pride "lewd" issue.
@4444999955555555 First, I have never 'denied' your claim about the gay pride parades. You're 'assuming' I am denying it, but in fact it would not surprise me in the least - what do you expect from people America has for generations treated like some horrible plague? Second, I read a LOT of different publications, left, right, middle and beyond. That's how one becomes informed and expose themselves to ALL perspectives instead of maintaining a myopic view - like yours.
@theonlykatii : wow, for a moment there I thought you were actualling coming around to being honest and even-keeled. Oh well, your judgement of ("myopic view") contradicts your own "standard" of not passing judgement on someone you know "nada" about. And YES, you DID deny the reality of immoral acts being performed at these gay events by accusing me of never had attended them, thereby inferring it was all made up. That's denial, plain and simple.
@4444999955555555 I see, so you HAVE attended events that you consider "lewd" and "sick" ? Why would you do that? Are you sexually deprived - or depraved? Maybe a closet gay?
Accusing you of not attending a Gay Pride parade is not denying anything but that you've never attended one. You are now inferring that you have by using the word "accusing" so perhaps I was wrong on that score. Asking you for sources also is not "denial" - it's refusing to accept something as truth without EVIDENCE.
@theonlykatii : Okay, getting interesting. No, not gay, never have been--I'm used to this assumption that those who think homosexuality is immoral are actually "closet gays". Using your logic, I'm also a rapist and murderer because I believe those acts to be lewd and immoral, too. Okay, so now that you admit that indecent acts are performed at "gay pride" parades, are you agreeing these acts are "lewd"? Or continuing to turn a blind eye to these while you hypocritically villify Santorum?
@4444999955555555 YOU brought up the gay parade masturbation, I didn't.
Why are you continuomg to accuse me of "turning a blind eye" to something I had no knowledge of? What kind of wacky crap is that?
I'm not gay, I don't pay attention to gay or any other kinds of parades. That is why I asked you for sources (duh). Now, I'm done with you. You remind me of a phrase that goes: "Thou does protest too much" and "the suspect are most always suspect."
@theonlykatii : so it's not that the explicit sexual acts performed publicly at some "gay pride" events are actually "lewd" or "sick"--it's just that they are "considered" that by some "myopic" folks, right? You infer there is no such thing as "lewd" or "unnatural", yet you hypocritically calle me "depraved". Which is it? Are there no such things as "lewd" or "depraved" acts or are there? OR--AND THIS IS MY POINT THE ENTIRE TIME--does it depend for you on WHO it is who is performing the act?
@theonlykatii : Second, yes, ALL cultures from the beginning of time have treated homosexuals very poorly and I do NOT support that. They, as people, as equal to us and God love them equally. God hates, however, their sinful lifestyle, but God also hates my sin and your sin and everyone's sin EQUALLY. What I find disgusting--and is the point of this "debate"--is the POLITICALIZATION OF IMMORALITY to make what is lewd to be "normal" and what is healthy to be "sick".
@theonlykatii : Third: you seem to be suggesting that homosexuals perform these lewd acts (in public and private, just as straight folks do, too) BECAUSE "America ... has treaded" poorly. Using this logic, rapists rape because they are "treated poorly"? Murderers kill because their chosen behavior is "rejected"? Now you are grasping at straws. Let's place the responsibility for one's behavior where it belongs: on the person performing it.
@theonlykatii : Finally: your accusation that my views are "mypoic" is unsubstantiated. Who's standard are you using to deem my views as myopic? If truth is identified, why would you continue looking? Why would I waste my time reading books on "Flat Earth Viewpoints" when they are wrong? Same goes for "ALL perspectives". No need to be exposed to counterfeits. Only someone who is not looking for the truth continues to evade it by hiding themselves in "ALL perspectives".
@theonlykatii : Furthermore, are you suggesting that it was "lewd" for a so-called "pastor" to masterbate in public? If so, then you have to admitthat gay-pride parades consist of lewd behavior (google the gay-pride parade issue, but I believe you already know how lewd gay pride parades are, you are just feigning ignorance). To be logically consistent, you must accept that these reports about the pastor are "bogus" by "left-wingnut organizations" OR accept reports on lewdness on gay parades/
@theonlykatii : again, to illustrate your lack of logical consistency, you ARE turning a blind eye to the gay lifestyle where male parts are inserted into orifices that were designed to only have things come OUT, not IN. It's called UN-natural. It's also SICK, twisted, and lewd. You are also turning a blind eye to the immoral acts performed during gay pride parades. And again, if you dismiss these reports but accept the report about the "masturbating pastor" you are dishonest/inconsistent.
@theonlykatii :(Part 2): the things I describe were video reports that were "clouded" in the specific places so as to be presentable. How about New Orlean's Mardi Gras celebrations, where the same things take place, public nudity (seen this too on videotape)? Let's take the gay-politics out of it then, in order to clarify the point. Is the same behavior performed by "straight" folks NOT lewd? Yet the Mardi Gras is "lauded" by the same media folks who are condemning folks they deem "un-PC".
@theonlykatii : (Part 3) - This all boils down to the 'PC-mind set'. See how quickly you dismiss assertions of lewd behavior among your "chosen people" yet how quickly you judge others--all based upon POLITICAL ideology. I am not a Santorum supporter. I do, however, hate duplicitous people who hypocritically have one standard for themselves and a completely separate standard for everyone else.
@theonlykatii : furthermore, "sleeping with their baby" is also "spending time and mourning" with their baby. Again, liberals reframing those who honor life as "sick" and reframing those who are truly sick and need remedical help as "normal". Again, I'll stick with those who honor the dead and mourn their loved ones as opposed to those who perform unnatural sexual act in the middle of a public street. I see who you hang with, too.
I don't understand why anyone is surprised at Alan's actions. Until one reaches the age of 18 and actually votes for a democrat, they are not even considered by liberals to be a real human being or responsible for their actions . And, it is going to get worse until conservatives wake up and fight like someone who really cares.
Does anyone know what he actually did when he brought the baby home? I don't think he was "playing" with it. it is weird to me. But he's not a criminal. That guy is a jerk.
If the baby had been born at home, as in days gone by, the other kids would have been able to see that there was a baby who died. If they had a home birth today, they'd be given just as much crap as they've been given here. Besides, this was a birth coming too early. If the hospital had allowed kids in, this would have never been an issue. When my ex's mom was dying we had to sneak in iur 8 yr old son. Perhaps you should be angry at the hospital. Meanwhile, I'm with AFA. Fire Colmes!
@kenzie45230 that is why I have such an issue wioth hospital policy about not letting kids in it's narrow minded and stupid you shouldn't have to 'sneak in' a child to see their dying grandma.
@kenzie45230 : Exactly--perfect point. This was a normal, healthy thing to do--a part of the mourning process--since the beginning of time. Only in recnet, modern Western medicine, where health care is administered for the first time OUTSIDE the home, is this even an "issue." So many closed-minded bigots. My word.
@ignuz : the best folks can do here is find this "strange" or personally not worth it. Is it not strange to put a dead body in a $500 suit and $200 of makeup and then gawk at it before burying it in a $5000 coffin and 6 feet of dirt? Is it not strange to suck the brains out of a living baby moments before birth (a policy Alan Colmes supports)? I'll stick with the folks who mourn the baby instead of sucking its brains out, thank you very much.
Where does this sudden concern for a dead baby come from all of these liberals? You would suck the brains out of baby just moments from natural birth. You would allow the baby to be cut to pieces, sucked apart, and removed limb by limb from the mothers womb. You applaud such behavior as "choice" and snivel at the unborn child as mere excrement, a blob of cells, an "inconvenience". And suddenly you are "experts" when it comes to ethical treatment of human babies! You blind fools.
@marksallow : since this genius does not read, this reply is for those who do. Wow! What a scintillating comeback: personal insults and name-calling. Are you a 5 year old girl? More deflection, more ignoring the points made about the equality of ALL human life--no matter the stage of development. All of this is only deflection to cover up the reality that liberals have no argument and do not care about the equality of ALL human life--namely the unborn.
@shadowfaxx1 : gee, I missed this comment. Talk about generalizations and assumptions based upon COMPLETE IGNORANCE (as usual) to deflect from responding to a point. "Republicans love war." Nearly all the wars of the past century the USA was involved in were the responsibility (dirty word to a libtard) of democrats: WWI - Woodrow Wilson (D); WW2 - FDR (D); Korean War - Truman (D); Vietnam - Kennedy/LBJ (D). Again, facts trump liberal's religious beliefs.
@marksallow : Wow, this person is "pro-life". Really? But I am "extreme" because I find that providing a funeral for a newly born baby as a beautiful thing? Explain how that jives with the pro-life ideology? Just what is the difference between a FUNERAL for this baby and a funeral for anyone else? Does it matter where the body has to be transported in order to conduct the mourning process? Repeat after me: IT WAS A FUNERAL. FUNERALS INVOLVE DEAD BODIES. Just who is "pathetic" here?
@4444999955555555 ....ask any health care professional....such a request to take a 2 hour old dead baby home to show the kids is bizzarre behavior. I`m sure they don`t get too many requests to do such unnecessary things., If at all.
@marksallow : My wife is in the health care industry. But that is besides the point. This is not a popularity contest to determine what "normal" is. WHO CARES how rare it is? 100 years ago, requesting to have the brains sucked out of a fully developed baby just hours from birth was quite rare and would have been considered "bizarre", don't you agree? But today it is considered a "right". So let's leave personal opinions and the frequency of occurrence out of determining right and wrong.
@marksallow : What's "extreme"? Sucking a baby's brains out of their skull, or conducting a funeral (who cares where--so WHAT if it's at a home)? Just whose thinking is "clouded"? Not mine.
Taking a dead 2 hour old baby home to show your kids is SICK !!!!!!!!!! It should be explained to them gently , not a macabre display. Those poor kids probably had nightmares.
Sorry to all you right-wing fucking bible-thumping CUNTS, but Santorum's taking a DEAD child "home" is SICK SICK SICK behavior. Something is wrong with a couple who thinks that is normal behavior, even in the midst of trauma and loss.
@shadowfaxx1 who the fuck do you think you are. so it is more normal to take a body to a mortician have it stuffed like a teddy bear and put on display in a coffin like an exhibit in a museum. whatever pal. its their baby they have the right to mourn in their own way.
@shafta99 Normal FUNERAL traditions have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Look it up, archeological digs have people with flowers, gift etc.. But taking an ABORTED infant home for the other living kids to HAVE TO kiss and pet will almost certainly cause those kids later, many months talking to a therapist as an adult. It's fucking ABNORMAL disturbing behavior and you know it.
@shadowfaxx1 he said its a baby that died after childbirth not aborted fetus. either way its thiers.why don't you bother cleaning your own closet before you go poking around in every body elses business. some people eat the placenta after a baby is born. disgusting to me but this is america. land of the free. home of the brave. or it used to be.
@shadowfaxx1 : dude--human history does NOT go back "hundreds of thousands of years". We've been here at most 20,000 years. Recorded human history goes back maybe 10,000 if we're lucky, so there are no "traditions" that can go back beyond these time frames. And the baby was not aborted according to reports. And they were not "petting" it or "playing" with it. You exaggerate with terms of inaccuracy, just like you do with the human historical record and reality.
@4444999955555555 Dude. I am so sorry that you have not taken college courses in Anthropology like I have. There are digs that have proven that funeral rites were performed hundreds of thousands of years ago. Evidence of flowers, personal items and red-ochre dust to be exact.
As for what the Santorums did, it was sick behavior and you can bet in about 20 years his kids will need therapy for being forced to kiss their dead brother.
@shadowfaxx1 : Since you are so "educated", you may want to check U.S. Supreme Court legal precedent, which establishes "secular humanism" as a RELIGION. Humanists themselves (which includes the social-religion called "anthropology") brought case law against the government demanding tax-exempt status as a "religion" (Fellowship of Humanity v. County of Alameda, 1957 and Washington Ethical Society v. District of Columbia, 1957). My point? There is NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to your statements.
@shadowfaxx1 PART TWO: Anthropology is NON-scientific. Archaeology, however, is, and this evidence-based discipline clearly shows that the HUMAN record goes back no more than 15,000 years, at best. How were these "flowers" and red-ochre dust dated? Dating methods using oxidation/carbon-dating have been proven unscientific due to recent tests that incorrectly pegged a living specimen as being "millions of years old". What is taught in colleges as "anthrology" is RELIGION, no science.
@shadowfaxx1 : PART THREE: Furthermore, for someone who prides themselves in being "educated" and pretends to have respect for the "scientific method" (aka, truth), you certainly throw a lot of unfounded conjecture into your statements, such as "... being forced to kiss their dead brother". You would make a great yellow journalism. But stay away from the disciplines that require a hunger for truth and accuracy.
@4444999955555555 Overkill buddy. Look, the point of this whole matter is whether or not taking your dead baby home for a nice family visit is a good idea or not. It was not in my opinion. I am quite certain that his children are/were traumatized by the whole thing, (as described in multiple articles and his own book). You may think it was just so "Christian" of them, but I think it was disturbed behavior, especially since he made it POLITICAL in his book.
@shadowfaxx1 : Okay, fine. It's an OPINION. Let's leave it at that. Leave the unsubstantiated accusations, including the inference to Christianity (which only YOU have dragged into this) out of it. And a simple admission that you were WRONG on the historical and archaelogical record would, again, be the HONEST thing to do. But people incapable of honesty, when faced with their ignorance, change topics or resort to inflammatory name-calling--both of which you exhibit on this board.
@shadowfaxx1 : Again, only YOU are dragging religion into this. But being a secular humanist that you are, you are the MOST religious person on this board. You're no different that the guy who struggles with being gay but is in denial and so is the most vocal against homosexuality. It's called DENIAL. Your beliefs have no basis in science nor the empirical record. But instead of being honest and admit your ignorance, you resort to name-calling. Atheism is the most blind of faiths.
@shafta99 Also, hey I agree that they have the right to mourn their own way with their dead aborted fetus, but I also have a right to say it's fucked up and psycho behavior to take it home and kiss it and lay down with it, force the kids to talk/kiss/pet it.
@shadowfaxx1 : Well, coming from someone who labels their ideological counterparts as genitalia, one would not expect much rational thinking about human life and respect for it. Ever hear of a FUNERAL? A dead body is involved. Is THAT sick, too? If not, what's the difference? Here's the difference: you hate pro-life people and look for any excuse to villify them. To liberals who view the unborn as trash to be exhumed from the womb, it makes sense you would view the dead baby as "sick".
@4444999955555555 Well, I think there is a case for 'some' funerals are bordering 'sick' but generally speaking burying the dead is not "sick" - taking a dead baby "home to the kids" is what is sick. By the way numbername, "liberal" does not = "pro-abortion" - there are pro-abortion people of all political stripes. YOU do not get to decide who is for or against what - that is for individuals to decide and has nothing to do with 'political' leanings. I don't hate pro-life people. I am one.
@4444999955555555 Given your logic, why don't you go ahead and the next time a friend or family member dies, just take them home for a few days, watch TV with them, take them out to a restaurant and let everyone that knew him/her say a nice goodbye in person". Introduce them to your kids, FORCE your kids to kiss and pet Uncle Pete on "the lips before his bigger sendoff at his funeral. After all it's the same thing, and "honors" the deceased. It's fucking lunatic behavior bud.
@shadowfaxx1 Sorry you had to use up all of your vocabulary to try to express yourself. Liberals are sometimes forced to greatly exert themselves to try to hide their ignorance, and I personally think that is too much to ask.
As a fair-mined conservative, I want to hear what those with opposing views have to say, but Colmes' worsening arrogance and willful ignorance of common sense and decency have no place in civil discussion. It is definitely time to show him the door.
Alan Colmes is a Godless person ,so happy he has left the show ,because he looks like fearce Wolf ,that wants to tear the eyes of any body ,that does not agree with his radical views He should be fired from Fox all together .
@rwyeth5 : Again, "concerning" only if you view the dead baby as trash and worthless. However, if you view the dead baby as having been a PERSON, equal in worth and value in every way to any other human being, dead or living, what Santorum did was beautiful and affirming of the baby's priceless worth. No different from ANY OTHER FUNERAL. You liberals only continue to underscore your contempt for the equal worth of all human life by continuing to make ignorant statements like these.
@4444999955555555 No it was not "beautiful" - it was creepy and affirmed nothing but for his other children to wonder what the hell mommy and daddy were doing bringing them a dead baby. Now, if it WERE a "funeral" service and the baby was to be buried on their property hence forth, that would be one thing, but that wasn't it. They took their poor baby's corpse home to the kids. Sick.
@4444999955555555 Oh stop with your insane accusations already. NObody has even slightly intimated that a dead baby is "trash" - that you could even conceive such a sick notion is very telling about YOU. You are as sick as Santorum.
@MarxuxII The existence of you, Colmes and Obama are reasons that keep me from opposing abortion. Your obviously not smart enough to know it but your mother didn't do you a favor by bringing you into this world. You and Colmes are the hemorrhoids of a perverted and sick society.
If a conservative or republican said this they would have been fired an hour after the statement was made. This man has gone over the line many times in the past but this is way over the line. I WILL NO LONGER WATCH FOX until Colmes is GONE
@Karenbracken1 Actually, had it been a Dem/progressive that took their dead baby home for the kids to play with the Fox would have been all over them like flies on shyt! And everyone knows it.
WHat is wrong with you, Alan? I always liked you, but completely disagree with you. This was a time for his family...his wife, children, and himself to affirm that a life existed....that is what is wrong with the liberal media today...cheap cheap shots!! And your posturing in your chair spoke volumes! Shame on you!!!
WoW, I knew Santorum was missing several screws, but I didn't know he was creepy insane. To gather up your dead infant and take it "home to the kids" is just sick. It probably scarred his other children for life. Props to Colmes for letting people know just how sick Santorum is. Clearly he has no respect for the living - or the dead.
@theonlykatii he obviously has more respect for the living and the dead than you...what is wrong with having the children, either at the hospital or at home, hold and touch the baby, say their hellos and their good byes, so they can affirm a life existed? You prefer they just to send "it" to the morgue and pretend it never happened? I hope you never give birth to a dead child, and if you do, I hope people show you more compassion than you do to this family.
@sadsinger626 I wouldn't assume my living children would need such a graphic demonstration to believe I was pregnant and that my baby died. Like any normal person would do I'd gently explain it to them and allow them to mourn.
I have experienced a premature birth of a child, and I can assure you the thought of taking my dead baby's lifeless body home to my children would never cross my mind.
I didn't even suggest anyone should "pretend" it never happened. What hole did you pull that out of?
I spent time with both my Mother's and my Mother in law after they passed - but I didn't drag them home with me. They were treated with reverence and respect, the same way I'd treat my baby if I ever had that happen to me. And don't worry, I will not be giving birth to any babies dead or alive. I can't have babies anymore.
@theonlykatii : why is bringing home the baby's body any difference from "spending time with" you dead mother in the hospital? Where's the logic here? What if the funeral for the baby were conducted in their home? The dead baby would need to be brought to where the funeral was. If the funeral was conducted at the hospital, would it be 'dragging it' to the funeral location then? Of course not. Your duplicity is illogical. Colmes is reprehensible and that you would defend him is likewise.
@4444999955555555 They didn't take their baby's dead body home "for a funeral." And it's Santorum who is reprehensible and that you defend him is likewise.
@sadsinger626 " EXACTLY. Perfectly put. The real issue here is that liberals have no respect for, and place no value on, the dead baby and do not regard that baby as a PERSON. To them, what Santorum did was akin to bringing home decaying food because liberals view the dead baby as garbage and decaying waste. They ascribe NO VALUE to the human personhood of that baby. Their words only underscore the lack of equal worth that fail to place on the lives of the unborn--the murder-mentality.
@4444999955555555 Sorry, but I'm no "liberal" - and I place as much respect on the remains of a dead person as the next decent person does. "Personhood" does not apply to a dead body. The "person" is GONE. And yes, I put much more "worth" on the living than the dead. You sound like a total loon living on the fringe.
@theonlykatii : Having respect for the person who WAS but is now dead is evidenced by how you honor them in death, too. Anyone who truly regards the unborn or just born as equally human would understand that what Santorum did was placing equal value on the now dead baby. You do not do this. And it MAY be that by you placing the word "person" in quotes, as you did, signifies that you do NOT literally believe that dead baby was once a human of equal worth. THAT is the point: EQUAL WORTH.
@444499995555555 Because YOU think taking a dead baby home to the kids is "showing respect" for the "person who WAS" means your logic is as twisted as Santorums - it means it IS as twisted as Santorums. You are defaming people in the most DISrespectful and disgusting ways merely because they DISAGREE with you. Maybe you should spend more time being "respectful" the LIVING instead of defending a twisted dictator-wannabe like Santorum. P.S. "person" was in quotes because I was QUOTING you. Duh.
@theonlykatii : yeah, "scarred his kids" -- as if liberals, who murder the unborn, have any regard for children ... that's a joke. It's called a FUNERAL. Except, to a libearl, when a conservative mourns at their family's funeral, they are desperate to mock them for it.
Alan Colmes always seems to be opposed to everything I agree with, and this is another flaming example. I too lost a premature child. He only lived 11 hours. Even 30 years later I still wish that my family could have seen and held him. He was a part of our family that we had loved and looked forward to being with. Those who have experienced the death of a baby know how real the grieving is for the entire family. Alan has no compassion. He knows they did not "play" with the dead baby. How crude.
I have always felt that Colmes is a contemptible jerk and this proves it. The libs must really be getting desperate. But what annoyed me the most about this when Colmes says that "he took the baby home to PLAY with it." Fox SHOULD fire him but they will not have the guts.
I have always tried to make allowances for Mr Colmes, but this is too much. He deserves to be removed from the FOX organization, then perhaps his smug demeanor may develop some real humanity.
Colmes's opinion regarding Santorum's way of dealing with the death of his child was totally out of line. Fox should seriouly consider whether his future commentaries are beneficial to their viewers. I personally think not.
I don't know why this shocks us!? This is yet another example of the pure hatred that prevails in our nation of all Judeo-Christian believers and their attempts at the political process. Colmes loathes Rick Santorum and all he stands for and he one of the few who will throw caution to the wind and reveal his true heart. Be assured that Colmes is not alone in his convictions. Conservatives need to quit waiting for Jesus to come and offer his candidacy for President. Vote Conservatives! Or Shut up
@cherokeepastor Do you mean hatred "of" or hatred "from" Judeo-Christian believers?
Agreed that Conservatives need to quit "waiting for Jesus to come" and keep Jesus out of "government." We need a moral government, and Christianity holds no patent on morality.
Jesus disapproved of government and imposing on a person's God given free will (which He never was guilty of). Jesus was a Libertarian.
Alan Colmes is WAY over the line on this one. He is showing disrespect to the Santorum family values of life. I have viewed a held a still born child, my grandchild. When I viewed and held that little perfectly formed body it enforced the fact that this was not a "thing" growing in a woman's body, but a human life.
I feel that Alan Colmes should apologize to the Santorum family, and to the Fox News viewers, like myself, then resign from Fox News. I will never listen to him again.
@DaytonaGary : Let's leave the anti-semitism out of this. His Jewishness has nothing to do with anything. I reject your racism and reject its injection into the pro-life argument. Hitler started national abortion with his Darwinian philosophies (he wrote this in his autobiography--that his inspiration for the Holocaust and abortion was Darwin). It is anti-thetical to the pro-life ideology. Thank you.
Alan Colmes criticism of what the Santorum family experienced is evident of a commentator unworthy to participate in any future FoxNews or related affiliate broadcasts. It's not a case of being politically correct, but rather moreso insensitive and disrespectful of any human. He owes the Santorum family an apology and it should be both privately and publically expressed. He lowers the standard of FoxNews.
I am not a fan of Alan Colmes by any means, but Rick Santorum is a weirdo and bringing a dead child home is ridiculous. It amazes me that Santorum is even in the running for President with his ridiculous views and actions like this.
@jclaunch00 leave it to you and those like you to take and make a vicious circus out of something so personal, so devastating and make it a political kick-ball..this will not fair well for dirtbag colmes and it wouldnt bother me a bit to never see his face again ..and you jclause00 your just as much of a dirtbag..
@jclaunch00 Santorum is a liberal all wrapped up in fundie Christianity. Yes, they do exist - they'd just never get elected on a Dem ticket. Ergo they call themselves 'Republican'.
He never was any good. Always a one sided self-indulgent insensitive idiot. Certainly No-one sensible or intelligent person, whether TV celebrity or politician should or will stand to the left or right of him. If he is anything, it's a channel changer. FOX will not be on my box until he is gone.
Colmes is his own greatest fan and he should not have the chance to resign but rather he should be fired for his lack of taste. He should look at his peers such as Brett Bair to learn what class is. FLYGUY
@FRANK61135 Nope Frank, Colmes is not his own greatest fan, he is his ONLY fan. This is not an aberration, it is Colmes. The "man" has no class and absolutely no concern or respect for anyone to the right of far left. His "heart" bleeds for left causes, but he spews venim and disrespect to anyone else.
This is just one of the reasons that I DESPISE Alan Colmes & those of his ilk! This card-carrying, left-wing, liberal MORON typifies the arrogance and totally obnoxious behavior of the crowd (mob?) to which he belongs. He should be ashamed, but he's not! @Elizabeth22413 said it best: "speak volumes about the lack of character, morality & depths of depravity within the soul of the left!!"!! Colmes is truly an "Obamanation"! :( :(
Come on, Fox...enough is enough. Can't we replace Alan with someone who is to the left, yet considerate of others who disagree with him? This is hitting below the belt and makes the whole network look bad
So I wonder how he knows what they did in the privacy of their own home. "Played with the child" he says. For those who love children and have them and have lost them, it would be called mourning, closure, loving the child, saying your goodbyes, etc... Funny how you can do anything in the White House or say anything through the media and it is accepted and approved, yet you do something in the privacy of your own home and they ridicule you. Privacy means privacy. You are a disgrace.
I don't know if he should get fired, but it was an idiotic hurtful thing to say. I try to be fair of what other people's opinions are, but that was WAY over the line. It just made Colmes look like an inconsiderate jerk.
@stephaniejane81 Precisely! Alan Colmes is a perfect example of typical leftists with no regard for human life, dignity or decency. He has been their poster child for at least the decade. It really makes you wonder if this is a human being or an alien being. I am beginning to believe the latter.
I am a conservative Christian voter who seldom agrees with but has supported Colmes in the past. In this case however, he is way over the line! The death of an infant is an unthinkable tragedy. To use that as a "bullet point" in his answer about Mr. Santorum is reprehensible. Further, to characterize their personal time after the death as "playing with it for a few hours" shows a complete lack of respect and sensitivity for Mr Santorum's family, their privacy & beliefs. Apologize or pink slip...
I agree with you 100%, except the part Apologize or pink slip, it's not a option, he should do both, Or the Fox Network should do it for him, No two ways about this.
@jaybmd .....It`s unusual behavior on Santorum`s part but none of our business either. Read the post below yours. Now, WHY do conservatives think it`s OK that Ann Coulter calls John Edwards a "faggot" ( who, by the way, lost a chilkd as well ) and calling John McCain a "douchebag". I didn`t see any conservatives in a tirade. It`s hypocrisy.
@stingraybch Why is this strange? If you have ever lost a child (God forbid) you would truly understand--especially for the other children at home, this was an important step
in the beginning of the grieving/healing process. Mrs. Santorum was a neo-natal nurse for a number of years & had seen this type of tragedy play out numerous times & both parents felt this was an important step for their family. Colmes' remarks on this personal matter were despicable & reprehensible!
Why fire Colmes? He's entitled to his inane opinions. He is a great poster boy for the liberal foundational tenets - stupidity and insensitivity. People need to see these zombies in action and understand how they all think. Eliminate Colmes, and you eliminate a genuine learning experience for those that need to see what nut jobs these types really are, and you lose the opportunity to save or rescue someone from their bite.
@SERinMS I completely agree with you--what he said was way beyond the pale & more despicable than even I thought was possible for a so-called liberal. I do think his remarks will stand as typical spewings from the left--they always claim they are so very tolerant & accepting of others, but instances such as this speak volumes about the lack of character, morality & depths of depravity within the soul of the left!!
I don't like what he said, but he is certainly free to say it.Censoring him is actually un-American. If Americans don't like his comments then they will not watch his shows,Then he will be out of work,that's how liberty works folks. I find his comment horrible, and contemptible,but I value freedom of speech more than I value the strange laws of political correctness. The biggest lie however is that Santorum built this new found popularity despite the media. This is being done to stop Ron Paul.
Alan Colmes is a PUKE, MORON, JACKASS that should be fired from Fox for say that on air. Yes Alan it was a cheap shot!!! I bet if it was your child and someone else said that, you would be all over them. Need to flood FoxNews with emails to FIRE Alan Colmes!!!!!
First of all how was this even legal ? You mean if a relative like my wife for example died in a hospital I could tell them to put her in a wheel chair so I could put her in the car and take her home to sleep with for the night ? Of course not that's insane and illegal. I'm sure Sanatorium being a Senator played a role in this.
People say this is a "private" thing, hey this guy wants to be president and have his finger on the nuclear trigger and you don't think his mental state is important ?
FuckFlyOverCuntry 1 week ago
Actually I do have experience in raising children. Have been caring for children for 40 years. I would not expect your grandmother to bring your grandfather's body home to you any more than I would expect anyone who has not lost a child. An infant is a different matter. Bringing a infant home to the children not allowed in the hospital and depending on religious beliefs, allowed at the funeral is a way for them to say hello and good-bye.
So how would YOU teach a young child about death?
LadyAuthor47 1 week ago
You can only understand what he did if you have lost a child before, I have and at the time I was in ICU, when my mommy and my son held my full term baby. Guess what this was the best thing for my 3 years old son, because he could connect with my baby and now when he ask about my son, he's saids mommy I know Zeven is in heaven with God. Doctors and nurses recommend the bond so you want grieve as much.
MrZeven1 2 weeks ago
No wonder Rick Santorum is unpopular and loses elections. He`s a NUT !! Full of arrogance too...just makes him look worse. an arrogant nutcase....get the van ready, time to take the loons to the psych ward. Everything about Rick Santorm is unusual and bizarre, but this reallt takes the cake. Why show those children a dead baby ??What is the purpose of it >? I bet he had them touching the corpse too. This is not the way to explain death to children.
marksallow 3 weeks ago
@marksallow How would YOU explain death to a child? You have obviously not experienced the death OF a child, not have you experienced death of a loved one AS a child or you would not be calling this FATHER nuts.
I have experienced the death of a loved one AS a child at a time when death was NOT explained to children. I was traumatized for several years afterwards. I have also experienced the death of an infant. The infant was not my own but his death had a profound effect on his cousins.
LadyAuthor47 1 week ago
@LadyAuthor47 Well, obviously you don`t have experience in raising children. I was told about God and death at an early age, My grandfather died when I was 5, and we went to see him in the FUNERAL HOME......no, my grandma didn`t load his dead corpse over to our house to look at. It`s BIZZARRE BEHAVIOR....what did he tell them to do, kiss it ? But then again, Santorum is a NUTCASE anyway.
marksallow 1 week ago
@LadyAuthor47 and also, all you have to tell children when someone dies is they went to Heaven.....simple....I lost a sister ate ate 10 too, but with the loving and gentle explanation from my parents was that she was with God and went to heaven...Nuff said !! Yes, I missed her, but I was not traumatized for years.
marksallow 1 week ago
@marksallow I'm sorry you lost a sister at the age of 10 and that you had parents tell you about death.
LadyAuthor47 1 week ago
@LadyAuthor47 ...give it up lady, you`re as nuts as Santorum. My parents GENTLY explained death as it`s when people go to heaven to be with God....now, that is not traumatizing, but you obviously think it is. My God, You make it sound like they told me gory details. Now please leave me alone.
marksallow 1 week ago
Good job, Alan Colmes! He's the only good guy on Fox News. :-)
mannysaurus19 4 weeks ago
I saw Santorum questioned on this and he says his wife is a neonatal nurse and this is a recommended action. Personally, I think it's a bit macabre, but again, it is a personal decision. Alan's saying they took it home and played with it for a few hours so they'd know it was real is every bit as sick, even more so. At least the Santorums supposedly had the right intentions. Alan on the other hand is just cruel and ignorant of human emotion and respect.
AbbasGrl 1 month ago
@AbbasGrl I can't stomach Alan. He is so smug, arrogant, and completely devoid of the capability of relating to other human beings. I have no idea what he's doing on TV.
Howard Stern was less offensive.
AbbasGrl 1 month ago
I see this as no different than the custom of viewing the dead bodies of our friends and family members in funeral homes and churches. While some say they would not bring home the bodies of their children's grandparents, that is exactly what people did before funeral homes and some still do. Sadly, it has become more acceptable for our parents/grandparents to die in a nursing home than at home. Death is as natural as birth.
leeandjackie 1 month ago
While I would never bring my dead child home for my other children "to experience", the fact that Alan brought up the issue at all is completely unacceptable. I refuse to watch this repulsive man in the future. When he comes on, I will simply switch off Fox.
St0rmdragon 1 month ago
@St0rmdragon I consider Colmes a huge success if he is able to do that: get you to turn off Fox fake news. Yay Alan!
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
That was a cheap shot. We lost a baby at birth years ago, and I know how it feels too. We took a photo as our other kids wanted to see what he looked like.This just shows Colmes using whatever it takes to push his left wing views no matter who he hurts.
BigOldScout 1 month ago
Bringing a corpse home for your children to pass around IS morbid, grotesque, and irresponsible, not matter how old they are at the time of death.
I would not bring home my children's dead grandparents, other parent, or sibling and let them handle and poke at the body for hours. I would not even allow this with a PET. Not allowing this does make that person any less precious; it has to do with respect for the dead and knowing what is age-appropriate and sanitary postmortem.
NaturalGrace 1 month ago
@NaturalGrace They "slept" with it! 4444999955555555 would have us believe that the Santorums were merely having a 'funeral' for this poor baby. I don't know ANYone who takes their loved ones' dead bodies home to SLEEP WITH it.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : cite your sources when you make accusations like this. Furthermore, is bringing home the body any different than conducting a funeral in a more "traditional" manner? Or cremating the body and putting the ashes in an urn and placing it on the fireplace mantel? Of course not. What is going on here is a societal need to PRE-JUDGE for political reasons. PERIOD. Muslims murdered on 9/11 and were called "brave". Gay Pride Parades feature lewd acts and are called "choice".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 "lewd" LOL That explains 'you' numbername. You need say no more. Yes, "sleeping" with a corpse is infinitely different than a funeral or a cremation. Duh.
Oh, the source was Mrs. Santorum in her book (you could have looked that up yourself duh), but I must make one correction. Mr. and Mrs. slept with their dead baby at the hospital 'before' they took it home to the kids.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : "lewd" - that also explains YOU. Masterbating in the middle of the street is not lewd? Because that is some of the nicer things that go on during so-called "gay pride parades". It would lead to arrest for indecent exposure for anyone else. It's tragic how liberals distort behavior so that people who honor human life are framed to be "sick" and people who are truly sick--like those who publicly expose themselves in "gay-pride" parades, are framed to be "normal".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 How many "gay parades" have you ever attended? Zero? Thought so. I have never seen anyone "masturbating" in any kind of parade. Can you cite your source for this accusation? I doubt it, and if you do it will probably be from some radical loony-tune fundy neocon warmongering publication. At any rate, I happen to have several close friends who are gay and they are anything but "lewd" - they are very conservative and quite modest in fact. Stop stereotyping for God's sake.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : I know gay people, too, and I get along with them quite well. It's not stereotyping--the "gay pride" parades are political and do not represent all gay people. The only person who insinuated that is YOU to conveniently miss the point that folks like you turn a blind eye to "politically correct" people groups and all of THEIR LEWD behavior (including masterbating in the street and other acts) and yet zero in on someone else's behavior you do not understand and JUDGE them for it.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 finding out about sleeping with his dead baby just added to the pile of sickness in the man who would be King. I understand his behavior and his motives perfectly. Of course I judge him for it, just not because I don't "understand" it. You are the one passing judgement on someone you know nada about and accusing them of doing something that never happened, like "turning a blind eye... How can I "turn a blind eye" to something I was not aware of? You can't, but you did :)
theonlykatii 1 month ago
And where's that evidence of "gay pride" paraders masturbating on street corners? Hmmm... but there is this at HuffPost: Grant Storms Arrested: Anti-Gay Christian Pastor Charged Over Public Masturbation
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : well, if all you read is libtard rags like Huffington Post, that's all the censored news you are going to get. My word, your denial is beyond belief. I would be more than happy to GOOGLE IT myself by typing in 'gay pride parade lewd acts masterbating' and posting the results if that's what it will take to get you to pull your head out of the sand of denial on this gay-pride "lewd" issue.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 First, I have never 'denied' your claim about the gay pride parades. You're 'assuming' I am denying it, but in fact it would not surprise me in the least - what do you expect from people America has for generations treated like some horrible plague? Second, I read a LOT of different publications, left, right, middle and beyond. That's how one becomes informed and expose themselves to ALL perspectives instead of maintaining a myopic view - like yours.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : wow, for a moment there I thought you were actualling coming around to being honest and even-keeled. Oh well, your judgement of ("myopic view") contradicts your own "standard" of not passing judgement on someone you know "nada" about. And YES, you DID deny the reality of immoral acts being performed at these gay events by accusing me of never had attended them, thereby inferring it was all made up. That's denial, plain and simple.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 I see, so you HAVE attended events that you consider "lewd" and "sick" ? Why would you do that? Are you sexually deprived - or depraved? Maybe a closet gay?
Accusing you of not attending a Gay Pride parade is not denying anything but that you've never attended one. You are now inferring that you have by using the word "accusing" so perhaps I was wrong on that score. Asking you for sources also is not "denial" - it's refusing to accept something as truth without EVIDENCE.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Okay, getting interesting. No, not gay, never have been--I'm used to this assumption that those who think homosexuality is immoral are actually "closet gays". Using your logic, I'm also a rapist and murderer because I believe those acts to be lewd and immoral, too. Okay, so now that you admit that indecent acts are performed at "gay pride" parades, are you agreeing these acts are "lewd"? Or continuing to turn a blind eye to these while you hypocritically villify Santorum?
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 YOU brought up the gay parade masturbation, I didn't.
Why are you continuomg to accuse me of "turning a blind eye" to something I had no knowledge of? What kind of wacky crap is that?
I'm not gay, I don't pay attention to gay or any other kinds of parades. That is why I asked you for sources (duh). Now, I'm done with you. You remind me of a phrase that goes: "Thou does protest too much" and "the suspect are most always suspect."
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : :) Good job.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : so it's not that the explicit sexual acts performed publicly at some "gay pride" events are actually "lewd" or "sick"--it's just that they are "considered" that by some "myopic" folks, right? You infer there is no such thing as "lewd" or "unnatural", yet you hypocritically calle me "depraved". Which is it? Are there no such things as "lewd" or "depraved" acts or are there? OR--AND THIS IS MY POINT THE ENTIRE TIME--does it depend for you on WHO it is who is performing the act?
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Second, yes, ALL cultures from the beginning of time have treated homosexuals very poorly and I do NOT support that. They, as people, as equal to us and God love them equally. God hates, however, their sinful lifestyle, but God also hates my sin and your sin and everyone's sin EQUALLY. What I find disgusting--and is the point of this "debate"--is the POLITICALIZATION OF IMMORALITY to make what is lewd to be "normal" and what is healthy to be "sick".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Third: you seem to be suggesting that homosexuals perform these lewd acts (in public and private, just as straight folks do, too) BECAUSE "America ... has treaded" poorly. Using this logic, rapists rape because they are "treated poorly"? Murderers kill because their chosen behavior is "rejected"? Now you are grasping at straws. Let's place the responsibility for one's behavior where it belongs: on the person performing it.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Finally: your accusation that my views are "mypoic" is unsubstantiated. Who's standard are you using to deem my views as myopic? If truth is identified, why would you continue looking? Why would I waste my time reading books on "Flat Earth Viewpoints" when they are wrong? Same goes for "ALL perspectives". No need to be exposed to counterfeits. Only someone who is not looking for the truth continues to evade it by hiding themselves in "ALL perspectives".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Furthermore, are you suggesting that it was "lewd" for a so-called "pastor" to masterbate in public? If so, then you have to admitthat gay-pride parades consist of lewd behavior (google the gay-pride parade issue, but I believe you already know how lewd gay pride parades are, you are just feigning ignorance). To be logically consistent, you must accept that these reports about the pastor are "bogus" by "left-wingnut organizations" OR accept reports on lewdness on gay parades/
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : again, to illustrate your lack of logical consistency, you ARE turning a blind eye to the gay lifestyle where male parts are inserted into orifices that were designed to only have things come OUT, not IN. It's called UN-natural. It's also SICK, twisted, and lewd. You are also turning a blind eye to the immoral acts performed during gay pride parades. And again, if you dismiss these reports but accept the report about the "masturbating pastor" you are dishonest/inconsistent.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii :(Part 2): the things I describe were video reports that were "clouded" in the specific places so as to be presentable. How about New Orlean's Mardi Gras celebrations, where the same things take place, public nudity (seen this too on videotape)? Let's take the gay-politics out of it then, in order to clarify the point. Is the same behavior performed by "straight" folks NOT lewd? Yet the Mardi Gras is "lauded" by the same media folks who are condemning folks they deem "un-PC".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : (Part 3) - This all boils down to the 'PC-mind set'. See how quickly you dismiss assertions of lewd behavior among your "chosen people" yet how quickly you judge others--all based upon POLITICAL ideology. I am not a Santorum supporter. I do, however, hate duplicitous people who hypocritically have one standard for themselves and a completely separate standard for everyone else.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 I'm not a "liberal." I'm a card carrying REPUBLICAN.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : furthermore, "sleeping with their baby" is also "spending time and mourning" with their baby. Again, liberals reframing those who honor life as "sick" and reframing those who are truly sick and need remedical help as "normal". Again, I'll stick with those who honor the dead and mourn their loved ones as opposed to those who perform unnatural sexual act in the middle of a public street. I see who you hang with, too.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
I don't understand why anyone is surprised at Alan's actions. Until one reaches the age of 18 and actually votes for a democrat, they are not even considered by liberals to be a real human being or responsible for their actions . And, it is going to get worse until conservatives wake up and fight like someone who really cares.
jeb1145 1 month ago
Does anyone know what he actually did when he brought the baby home? I don't think he was "playing" with it. it is weird to me. But he's not a criminal. That guy is a jerk.
TXRider 1 month ago
If the baby had been born at home, as in days gone by, the other kids would have been able to see that there was a baby who died. If they had a home birth today, they'd be given just as much crap as they've been given here. Besides, this was a birth coming too early. If the hospital had allowed kids in, this would have never been an issue. When my ex's mom was dying we had to sneak in iur 8 yr old son. Perhaps you should be angry at the hospital. Meanwhile, I'm with AFA. Fire Colmes!
kenzie45230 1 month ago
@kenzie45230 that is why I have such an issue wioth hospital policy about not letting kids in it's narrow minded and stupid you shouldn't have to 'sneak in' a child to see their dying grandma.
homelesshannah50 1 month ago
@kenzie45230 : Exactly--perfect point. This was a normal, healthy thing to do--a part of the mourning process--since the beginning of time. Only in recnet, modern Western medicine, where health care is administered for the first time OUTSIDE the home, is this even an "issue." So many closed-minded bigots. My word.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
Taking a deceased infant home is a little strange..
Sure there is some attachment to it, as it's been growing for 9 months..
But come on, it's deceased, leave it in peace. Don't fucken take it home, and show it to your kids.
ignuz 1 month ago
@ignuz : the best folks can do here is find this "strange" or personally not worth it. Is it not strange to put a dead body in a $500 suit and $200 of makeup and then gawk at it before burying it in a $5000 coffin and 6 feet of dirt? Is it not strange to suck the brains out of a living baby moments before birth (a policy Alan Colmes supports)? I'll stick with the folks who mourn the baby instead of sucking its brains out, thank you very much.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
Santorum and Romney look and sound the same
ignuz 1 month ago
Where does this sudden concern for a dead baby come from all of these liberals? You would suck the brains out of baby just moments from natural birth. You would allow the baby to be cut to pieces, sucked apart, and removed limb by limb from the mothers womb. You applaud such behavior as "choice" and snivel at the unborn child as mere excrement, a blob of cells, an "inconvenience". And suddenly you are "experts" when it comes to ethical treatment of human babies! You blind fools.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 ....you`re pathetic and stupid...not a good combination, and I don`t read comments, so don`t bother sending me one
marksallow 1 month ago
@marksallow : since this genius does not read, this reply is for those who do. Wow! What a scintillating comeback: personal insults and name-calling. Are you a 5 year old girl? More deflection, more ignoring the points made about the equality of ALL human life--no matter the stage of development. All of this is only deflection to cover up the reality that liberals have no argument and do not care about the equality of ALL human life--namely the unborn.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 And republicans love war, which causes nothing but death and destruction.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : gee, I missed this comment. Talk about generalizations and assumptions based upon COMPLETE IGNORANCE (as usual) to deflect from responding to a point. "Republicans love war." Nearly all the wars of the past century the USA was involved in were the responsibility (dirty word to a libtard) of democrats: WWI - Woodrow Wilson (D); WW2 - FDR (D); Korean War - Truman (D); Vietnam - Kennedy/LBJ (D). Again, facts trump liberal's religious beliefs.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 ....and by the way....I`m 100% PRO LIFE and proud of it, but you are extrreme
marksallow 1 month ago
@marksallow : Wow, this person is "pro-life". Really? But I am "extreme" because I find that providing a funeral for a newly born baby as a beautiful thing? Explain how that jives with the pro-life ideology? Just what is the difference between a FUNERAL for this baby and a funeral for anyone else? Does it matter where the body has to be transported in order to conduct the mourning process? Repeat after me: IT WAS A FUNERAL. FUNERALS INVOLVE DEAD BODIES. Just who is "pathetic" here?
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 ....ask any health care professional....such a request to take a 2 hour old dead baby home to show the kids is bizzarre behavior. I`m sure they don`t get too many requests to do such unnecessary things., If at all.
marksallow 1 month ago
@marksallow : My wife is in the health care industry. But that is besides the point. This is not a popularity contest to determine what "normal" is. WHO CARES how rare it is? 100 years ago, requesting to have the brains sucked out of a fully developed baby just hours from birth was quite rare and would have been considered "bizarre", don't you agree? But today it is considered a "right". So let's leave personal opinions and the frequency of occurrence out of determining right and wrong.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Hmmm, you can inject YOUR personal opinions but others aren't allowed to? How does that work?
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 ...you are definately allowing your extremist conservative beliefs to cloud your judgement on this one.
marksallow 1 month ago
@marksallow : What's "extreme"? Sucking a baby's brains out of their skull, or conducting a funeral (who cares where--so WHAT if it's at a home)? Just whose thinking is "clouded"? Not mine.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Who said it was "concern for a dead baby" ? And who said they were a "liberal"?
theonlykatii 1 month ago
Taking a dead 2 hour old baby home to show your kids is SICK !!!!!!!!!! It should be explained to them gently , not a macabre display. Those poor kids probably had nightmares.
toddfinny 1 month ago 3
@toddfinny Yep, it probably scarred them for life.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
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you want to see sick behavior. go in the inner cities and see what you libtards are breeding there. that's some sick behavior!
shafta99 1 month ago
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Colmes sucks. Bottom line
blogosaurous 1 month ago
Sorry to all you right-wing fucking bible-thumping CUNTS, but Santorum's taking a DEAD child "home" is SICK SICK SICK behavior. Something is wrong with a couple who thinks that is normal behavior, even in the midst of trauma and loss.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago 4
@shadowfaxx1 who the fuck do you think you are. so it is more normal to take a body to a mortician have it stuffed like a teddy bear and put on display in a coffin like an exhibit in a museum. whatever pal. its their baby they have the right to mourn in their own way.
shafta99 1 month ago
@shafta99 Normal FUNERAL traditions have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Look it up, archeological digs have people with flowers, gift etc.. But taking an ABORTED infant home for the other living kids to HAVE TO kiss and pet will almost certainly cause those kids later, many months talking to a therapist as an adult. It's fucking ABNORMAL disturbing behavior and you know it.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 he said its a baby that died after childbirth not aborted fetus. either way its thiers.why don't you bother cleaning your own closet before you go poking around in every body elses business. some people eat the placenta after a baby is born. disgusting to me but this is america. land of the free. home of the brave. or it used to be.
shafta99 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : dude--human history does NOT go back "hundreds of thousands of years". We've been here at most 20,000 years. Recorded human history goes back maybe 10,000 if we're lucky, so there are no "traditions" that can go back beyond these time frames. And the baby was not aborted according to reports. And they were not "petting" it or "playing" with it. You exaggerate with terms of inaccuracy, just like you do with the human historical record and reality.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Dude. I am so sorry that you have not taken college courses in Anthropology like I have. There are digs that have proven that funeral rites were performed hundreds of thousands of years ago. Evidence of flowers, personal items and red-ochre dust to be exact.
As for what the Santorums did, it was sick behavior and you can bet in about 20 years his kids will need therapy for being forced to kiss their dead brother.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : Since you are so "educated", you may want to check U.S. Supreme Court legal precedent, which establishes "secular humanism" as a RELIGION. Humanists themselves (which includes the social-religion called "anthropology") brought case law against the government demanding tax-exempt status as a "religion" (Fellowship of Humanity v. County of Alameda, 1957 and Washington Ethical Society v. District of Columbia, 1957). My point? There is NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to your statements.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 PART TWO: Anthropology is NON-scientific. Archaeology, however, is, and this evidence-based discipline clearly shows that the HUMAN record goes back no more than 15,000 years, at best. How were these "flowers" and red-ochre dust dated? Dating methods using oxidation/carbon-dating have been proven unscientific due to recent tests that incorrectly pegged a living specimen as being "millions of years old". What is taught in colleges as "anthrology" is RELIGION, no science.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : PART THREE: Furthermore, for someone who prides themselves in being "educated" and pretends to have respect for the "scientific method" (aka, truth), you certainly throw a lot of unfounded conjecture into your statements, such as "... being forced to kiss their dead brother". You would make a great yellow journalism. But stay away from the disciplines that require a hunger for truth and accuracy.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Overkill buddy. Look, the point of this whole matter is whether or not taking your dead baby home for a nice family visit is a good idea or not. It was not in my opinion. I am quite certain that his children are/were traumatized by the whole thing, (as described in multiple articles and his own book). You may think it was just so "Christian" of them, but I think it was disturbed behavior, especially since he made it POLITICAL in his book.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : Okay, fine. It's an OPINION. Let's leave it at that. Leave the unsubstantiated accusations, including the inference to Christianity (which only YOU have dragged into this) out of it. And a simple admission that you were WRONG on the historical and archaelogical record would, again, be the HONEST thing to do. But people incapable of honesty, when faced with their ignorance, change topics or resort to inflammatory name-calling--both of which you exhibit on this board.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 20,000 years? Oh, you must be a bible thumper. Egad. Yuck.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : Again, only YOU are dragging religion into this. But being a secular humanist that you are, you are the MOST religious person on this board. You're no different that the guy who struggles with being gay but is in denial and so is the most vocal against homosexuality. It's called DENIAL. Your beliefs have no basis in science nor the empirical record. But instead of being honest and admit your ignorance, you resort to name-calling. Atheism is the most blind of faiths.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@shafta99 Also, hey I agree that they have the right to mourn their own way with their dead aborted fetus, but I also have a right to say it's fucked up and psycho behavior to take it home and kiss it and lay down with it, force the kids to talk/kiss/pet it.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 : Well, coming from someone who labels their ideological counterparts as genitalia, one would not expect much rational thinking about human life and respect for it. Ever hear of a FUNERAL? A dead body is involved. Is THAT sick, too? If not, what's the difference? Here's the difference: you hate pro-life people and look for any excuse to villify them. To liberals who view the unborn as trash to be exhumed from the womb, it makes sense you would view the dead baby as "sick".
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Well, I think there is a case for 'some' funerals are bordering 'sick' but generally speaking burying the dead is not "sick" - taking a dead baby "home to the kids" is what is sick. By the way numbername, "liberal" does not = "pro-abortion" - there are pro-abortion people of all political stripes. YOU do not get to decide who is for or against what - that is for individuals to decide and has nothing to do with 'political' leanings. I don't hate pro-life people. I am one.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Given your logic, why don't you go ahead and the next time a friend or family member dies, just take them home for a few days, watch TV with them, take them out to a restaurant and let everyone that knew him/her say a nice goodbye in person". Introduce them to your kids, FORCE your kids to kiss and pet Uncle Pete on "the lips before his bigger sendoff at his funeral. After all it's the same thing, and "honors" the deceased. It's fucking lunatic behavior bud.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
@shadowfaxx1 Sorry you had to use up all of your vocabulary to try to express yourself. Liberals are sometimes forced to greatly exert themselves to try to hide their ignorance, and I personally think that is too much to ask.
jeb1145 1 month ago
@jeb1145 ....and yet YOU are the one that has absolutely nothing to add but an insult. You don't even *try* to argue a point in the least.
shadowfaxx1 1 month ago
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As a fair-mined conservative, I want to hear what those with opposing views have to say, but Colmes' worsening arrogance and willful ignorance of common sense and decency have no place in civil discussion. It is definitely time to show him the door.
itscloser 1 month ago
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Alan Colmes is a Godless person ,so happy he has left the show ,because he looks like fearce Wolf ,that wants to tear the eyes of any body ,that does not agree with his radical views He should be fired from Fox all together .
Igotitonlock 1 month ago
Cheap shot? Taking a dead baby home to introduce it to its siblings is definitely not normal and very concerning behavior.
rwyeth5 1 month ago 7
@rwyeth5 : Again, "concerning" only if you view the dead baby as trash and worthless. However, if you view the dead baby as having been a PERSON, equal in worth and value in every way to any other human being, dead or living, what Santorum did was beautiful and affirming of the baby's priceless worth. No different from ANY OTHER FUNERAL. You liberals only continue to underscore your contempt for the equal worth of all human life by continuing to make ignorant statements like these.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 No it was not "beautiful" - it was creepy and affirmed nothing but for his other children to wonder what the hell mommy and daddy were doing bringing them a dead baby. Now, if it WERE a "funeral" service and the baby was to be buried on their property hence forth, that would be one thing, but that wasn't it. They took their poor baby's corpse home to the kids. Sick.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Oh stop with your insane accusations already. NObody has even slightly intimated that a dead baby is "trash" - that you could even conceive such a sick notion is very telling about YOU. You are as sick as Santorum.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
i touched my weaner on rick santorums dead kids face at the wake
MarxuxII 1 month ago
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@MarxuxII The existence of you, Colmes and Obama are reasons that keep me from opposing abortion. Your obviously not smart enough to know it but your mother didn't do you a favor by bringing you into this world. You and Colmes are the hemorrhoids of a perverted and sick society.
4heavenbound 1 month ago
@4heavenbound i just wanted my weaner to feel good!!
MarxuxII 1 month ago
If a conservative or republican said this they would have been fired an hour after the statement was made. This man has gone over the line many times in the past but this is way over the line. I WILL NO LONGER WATCH FOX until Colmes is GONE
Karenbracken1 1 month ago
@Karenbracken1 Actually, had it been a Dem/progressive that took their dead baby home for the kids to play with the Fox would have been all over them like flies on shyt! And everyone knows it.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
WHat is wrong with you, Alan? I always liked you, but completely disagree with you. This was a time for his family...his wife, children, and himself to affirm that a life existed....that is what is wrong with the liberal media today...cheap cheap shots!! And your posturing in your chair spoke volumes! Shame on you!!!
sadsinger626 1 month ago
Colmes is a nasty pig and should be fired!!!
MHOGAN9712 1 month ago
WoW, I knew Santorum was missing several screws, but I didn't know he was creepy insane. To gather up your dead infant and take it "home to the kids" is just sick. It probably scarred his other children for life. Props to Colmes for letting people know just how sick Santorum is. Clearly he has no respect for the living - or the dead.
theonlykatii 1 month ago 2
@theonlykatii he obviously has more respect for the living and the dead than you...what is wrong with having the children, either at the hospital or at home, hold and touch the baby, say their hellos and their good byes, so they can affirm a life existed? You prefer they just to send "it" to the morgue and pretend it never happened? I hope you never give birth to a dead child, and if you do, I hope people show you more compassion than you do to this family.
sadsinger626 1 month ago
@sadsinger626 I wouldn't assume my living children would need such a graphic demonstration to believe I was pregnant and that my baby died. Like any normal person would do I'd gently explain it to them and allow them to mourn.
I have experienced a premature birth of a child, and I can assure you the thought of taking my dead baby's lifeless body home to my children would never cross my mind.
theonlykatii 1 month ago 8
I didn't even suggest anyone should "pretend" it never happened. What hole did you pull that out of?
I spent time with both my Mother's and my Mother in law after they passed - but I didn't drag them home with me. They were treated with reverence and respect, the same way I'd treat my baby if I ever had that happen to me. And don't worry, I will not be giving birth to any babies dead or alive. I can't have babies anymore.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : why is bringing home the baby's body any difference from "spending time with" you dead mother in the hospital? Where's the logic here? What if the funeral for the baby were conducted in their home? The dead baby would need to be brought to where the funeral was. If the funeral was conducted at the hospital, would it be 'dragging it' to the funeral location then? Of course not. Your duplicity is illogical. Colmes is reprehensible and that you would defend him is likewise.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 They didn't take their baby's dead body home "for a funeral." And it's Santorum who is reprehensible and that you defend him is likewise.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@sadsinger626 " EXACTLY. Perfectly put. The real issue here is that liberals have no respect for, and place no value on, the dead baby and do not regard that baby as a PERSON. To them, what Santorum did was akin to bringing home decaying food because liberals view the dead baby as garbage and decaying waste. They ascribe NO VALUE to the human personhood of that baby. Their words only underscore the lack of equal worth that fail to place on the lives of the unborn--the murder-mentality.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@4444999955555555 Sorry, but I'm no "liberal" - and I place as much respect on the remains of a dead person as the next decent person does. "Personhood" does not apply to a dead body. The "person" is GONE. And yes, I put much more "worth" on the living than the dead. You sound like a total loon living on the fringe.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii : Having respect for the person who WAS but is now dead is evidenced by how you honor them in death, too. Anyone who truly regards the unborn or just born as equally human would understand that what Santorum did was placing equal value on the now dead baby. You do not do this. And it MAY be that by you placing the word "person" in quotes, as you did, signifies that you do NOT literally believe that dead baby was once a human of equal worth. THAT is the point: EQUAL WORTH.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@444499995555555 Because YOU think taking a dead baby home to the kids is "showing respect" for the "person who WAS" means your logic is as twisted as Santorums - it means it IS as twisted as Santorums. You are defaming people in the most DISrespectful and disgusting ways merely because they DISAGREE with you. Maybe you should spend more time being "respectful" the LIVING instead of defending a twisted dictator-wannabe like Santorum. P.S. "person" was in quotes because I was QUOTING you. Duh.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
@theonlykatii I couldn't agree more!
rwyeth5 1 month ago 2
@rwyeth5 Thank you, another voice of reason.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
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@theonlykatii : yeah, "scarred his kids" -- as if liberals, who murder the unborn, have any regard for children ... that's a joke. It's called a FUNERAL. Except, to a libearl, when a conservative mourns at their family's funeral, they are desperate to mock them for it.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
@theonlykatii ....I couldn`t agree more. thanks
marksallow 1 month ago
@marksallow Thank you, another voice of reason
theonlykatii 1 month ago
Alan Colmes always seems to be opposed to everything I agree with, and this is another flaming example. I too lost a premature child. He only lived 11 hours. Even 30 years later I still wish that my family could have seen and held him. He was a part of our family that we had loved and looked forward to being with. Those who have experienced the death of a baby know how real the grieving is for the entire family. Alan has no compassion. He knows they did not "play" with the dead baby. How crude.
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astherrien 1 month ago
Alan Colmes is on the Obama dole. This man has no soul.
Capstone64 1 month ago
I have always felt that Colmes is a contemptible jerk and this proves it. The libs must really be getting desperate. But what annoyed me the most about this when Colmes says that "he took the baby home to PLAY with it." Fox SHOULD fire him but they will not have the guts.
NMGomes 1 month ago 2
I have made several comments and will make one final comment. The man, Colmes is in need of prayer, and he needs a lot of it.
PamPig25 1 month ago
I have always tried to make allowances for Mr Colmes, but this is too much. He deserves to be removed from the FOX organization, then perhaps his smug demeanor may develop some real humanity.
joeloewy 1 month ago
Colmes is retarded! Fox only has him on, to make the left look like idiots. Which isn't too hard to do.
Sleeko11 1 month ago
Colmes's opinion regarding Santorum's way of dealing with the death of his child was totally out of line. Fox should seriouly consider whether his future commentaries are beneficial to their viewers. I personally think not.
kathymckinnons 1 month ago
Colmes needs to GO. He is disrespectful and downright rude!
Judy2Day 1 month ago
@Judy2Day Have you called for the "go"ing of O'Reilly? There is nobody more obnoxious, mean and rude that that POS.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
I don't know why this shocks us!? This is yet another example of the pure hatred that prevails in our nation of all Judeo-Christian believers and their attempts at the political process. Colmes loathes Rick Santorum and all he stands for and he one of the few who will throw caution to the wind and reveal his true heart. Be assured that Colmes is not alone in his convictions. Conservatives need to quit waiting for Jesus to come and offer his candidacy for President. Vote Conservatives! Or Shut up
cherokeepastor 1 month ago
@cherokeepastor Do you mean hatred "of" or hatred "from" Judeo-Christian believers?
Agreed that Conservatives need to quit "waiting for Jesus to come" and keep Jesus out of "government." We need a moral government, and Christianity holds no patent on morality.
Jesus disapproved of government and imposing on a person's God given free will (which He never was guilty of). Jesus was a Libertarian.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
Alan Colmes is WAY over the line on this one. He is showing disrespect to the Santorum family values of life. I have viewed a held a still born child, my grandchild. When I viewed and held that little perfectly formed body it enforced the fact that this was not a "thing" growing in a woman's body, but a human life.
I feel that Alan Colmes should apologize to the Santorum family, and to the Fox News viewers, like myself, then resign from Fox News. I will never listen to him again.
gdbolden 1 month ago
Colmes...another Worthless Jew.
DaytonaGary 1 month ago
@DaytonaGary : Let's leave the anti-semitism out of this. His Jewishness has nothing to do with anything. I reject your racism and reject its injection into the pro-life argument. Hitler started national abortion with his Darwinian philosophies (he wrote this in his autobiography--that his inspiration for the Holocaust and abortion was Darwin). It is anti-thetical to the pro-life ideology. Thank you.
4444999955555555 1 month ago
Alan Colmes criticism of what the Santorum family experienced is evident of a commentator unworthy to participate in any future FoxNews or related affiliate broadcasts. It's not a case of being politically correct, but rather moreso insensitive and disrespectful of any human. He owes the Santorum family an apology and it should be both privately and publically expressed. He lowers the standard of FoxNews.
PrairieMischief 1 month ago
I am not a fan of Alan Colmes by any means, but Rick Santorum is a weirdo and bringing a dead child home is ridiculous. It amazes me that Santorum is even in the running for President with his ridiculous views and actions like this.
jclaunch00 1 month ago
@jclaunch00 leave it to you and those like you to take and make a vicious circus out of something so personal, so devastating and make it a political kick-ball..this will not fair well for dirtbag colmes and it wouldnt bother me a bit to never see his face again ..and you jclause00 your just as much of a dirtbag..
Valigator1 1 month ago
@jclaunch00 Santorum is a liberal all wrapped up in fundie Christianity. Yes, they do exist - they'd just never get elected on a Dem ticket. Ergo they call themselves 'Republican'.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
I believe the dislikes is towards this disrespectful punk!
mikejada1 1 month ago
He never was any good. Always a one sided self-indulgent insensitive idiot. Certainly No-one sensible or intelligent person, whether TV celebrity or politician should or will stand to the left or right of him. If he is anything, it's a channel changer. FOX will not be on my box until he is gone.
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flyinghighc 1 month ago
Colmes has drug journalism to an all time low. I'd vote for a pink slip.
nikonrider 1 month ago 2
@nikonrider There is nothing 'journalistic' about Fox News.
theonlykatii 1 month ago
Colmes is his own greatest fan and he should not have the chance to resign but rather he should be fired for his lack of taste. He should look at his peers such as Brett Bair to learn what class is. FLYGUY
FRANK61135 1 month ago 3
@FRANK61135 Nope Frank, Colmes is not his own greatest fan, he is his ONLY fan. This is not an aberration, it is Colmes. The "man" has no class and absolutely no concern or respect for anyone to the right of far left. His "heart" bleeds for left causes, but he spews venim and disrespect to anyone else.
QBsezCisLovall 1 month ago 2
Rich Lowry Bitched slapped that pond scum!
thomascapitalmgt 1 month ago 2
Allan Combs is LOWER THAN POND SCUM!
thomascapitalmgt 1 month ago
Alan Colmes is a pig!
laurayounai 1 month ago
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This is just one of the reasons that I DESPISE Alan Colmes & those of his ilk! This card-carrying, left-wing, liberal MORON typifies the arrogance and totally obnoxious behavior of the crowd (mob?) to which he belongs. He should be ashamed, but he's not! @Elizabeth22413 said it best: "speak volumes about the lack of character, morality & depths of depravity within the soul of the left!!"!! Colmes is truly an "Obamanation"! :( :(
FmrUSMCRnTX 1 month ago
Come on, Fox...enough is enough. Can't we replace Alan with someone who is to the left, yet considerate of others who disagree with him? This is hitting below the belt and makes the whole network look bad
dude7381 1 month ago 3
Get rid of this cold-hearted bastard. How terrible is that? Combs, get out of radio there is an opening on the Garbage Truck, get it
1colonia 1 month ago 2
So I wonder how he knows what they did in the privacy of their own home. "Played with the child" he says. For those who love children and have them and have lost them, it would be called mourning, closure, loving the child, saying your goodbyes, etc... Funny how you can do anything in the White House or say anything through the media and it is accepted and approved, yet you do something in the privacy of your own home and they ridicule you. Privacy means privacy. You are a disgrace.
hwinks 1 month ago
I don't know if he should get fired, but it was an idiotic hurtful thing to say. I try to be fair of what other people's opinions are, but that was WAY over the line. It just made Colmes look like an inconsiderate jerk.
stephaniejane81 1 month ago
@stephaniejane81 Precisely! Alan Colmes is a perfect example of typical leftists with no regard for human life, dignity or decency. He has been their poster child for at least the decade. It really makes you wonder if this is a human being or an alien being. I am beginning to believe the latter.
denialator1 1 month ago 2
I am a conservative Christian voter who seldom agrees with but has supported Colmes in the past. In this case however, he is way over the line! The death of an infant is an unthinkable tragedy. To use that as a "bullet point" in his answer about Mr. Santorum is reprehensible. Further, to characterize their personal time after the death as "playing with it for a few hours" shows a complete lack of respect and sensitivity for Mr Santorum's family, their privacy & beliefs. Apologize or pink slip...
jaybmd 1 month ago 18
@jaybmd
I agree with you 100%, except the part Apologize or pink slip, it's not a option, he should do both, Or the Fox Network should do it for him, No two ways about this.
rainbow7550 1 month ago 3
@jaybmd .....It`s unusual behavior on Santorum`s part but none of our business either. Read the post below yours. Now, WHY do conservatives think it`s OK that Ann Coulter calls John Edwards a "faggot" ( who, by the way, lost a chilkd as well ) and calling John McCain a "douchebag". I didn`t see any conservatives in a tirade. It`s hypocrisy.
marksallow 1 month ago 3
It does seem rather strange to take a dead baby home to his other children. So sorry he lost the baby but strange indeed.
stingraybch 1 month ago
@stingraybch Why is this strange? If you have ever lost a child (God forbid) you would truly understand--especially for the other children at home, this was an important step
in the beginning of the grieving/healing process. Mrs. Santorum was a neo-natal nurse for a number of years & had seen this type of tragedy play out numerous times & both parents felt this was an important step for their family. Colmes' remarks on this personal matter were despicable & reprehensible!
Elizabeth22413 1 month ago 2
Why fire Colmes? He's entitled to his inane opinions. He is a great poster boy for the liberal foundational tenets - stupidity and insensitivity. People need to see these zombies in action and understand how they all think. Eliminate Colmes, and you eliminate a genuine learning experience for those that need to see what nut jobs these types really are, and you lose the opportunity to save or rescue someone from their bite.
SERinMS 1 month ago 2
@SERinMS I completely agree with you--what he said was way beyond the pale & more despicable than even I thought was possible for a so-called liberal. I do think his remarks will stand as typical spewings from the left--they always claim they are so very tolerant & accepting of others, but instances such as this speak volumes about the lack of character, morality & depths of depravity within the soul of the left!!
Elizabeth22413 1 month ago 2
Alan Combs is a moron and a loser. He deserves to get fired immediately for those remarks.
kc7gnm 1 month ago
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I don't like what he said, but he is certainly free to say it.Censoring him is actually un-American. If Americans don't like his comments then they will not watch his shows,Then he will be out of work,that's how liberty works folks. I find his comment horrible, and contemptible,but I value freedom of speech more than I value the strange laws of political correctness. The biggest lie however is that Santorum built this new found popularity despite the media. This is being done to stop Ron Paul.
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ZyonFyre 1 month ago
Alan Colmes is a PUKE, MORON, JACKASS that should be fired from Fox for say that on air. Yes Alan it was a cheap shot!!! I bet if it was your child and someone else said that, you would be all over them. Need to flood FoxNews with emails to FIRE Alan Colmes!!!!!
DARKSIDEofHELL1 1 month ago 2
WOW. I am disgusted.
kittylikesicecream 1 month ago