Objectively purpose is subjective purpose (as meridianfrost said in different words), and in understanding this we can begin to understand objective morality. We may never be able to do the one best thing in any situation, because we will lack all the information needed to make that correct decision, but that one best thing still exists.
when you believe you have solved the meaning of life.... boomm!, then you will realize you have not solved anything. realizing what you just spoke about is only the beginning. but when you finally do solve it, you will be out of the physical body. some will say dead. purpose completed!
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi
Why don't you ponder on that for a while. By the way, I think you know perfectly well how provocative the phrase "God bless you" is to an atheist. The hate is obviously yours, not the other way around.
no absolutes exist ??? tell that to particle physicists .....the universe seems to be sown togheter on a couple of absolute constants.... to the point we can plug it into actual computer simulations.....
And if you think the consequences if we get it wrong imply an objective purpose or morality, you misunderstand me. The consequences of our actions and our motives are not easy to forsee, and we may look back and regret what we did. But it is right and, fortunately, necessary that we assume the burden of that task.
Deciding what our purpose is, and what morality is, is not only our right, it is our responsibility. Our freedom, autonomy, and free will are both wonderful and a burden at the same time. We can never let someone else decide these things for us, we must be responsible. And though there will be consequences if we get it wrong, it would be meaningless if we were not free to try. It is, I believe, the best of all possible worlds, that we have the freedom to try to be what we believe is right.
Really well put together Mer. I love that you present it subjectively. I have always loved your three-part system. I'm glad you shared it with us, especially in this very creative, very 'outside of the box, and in some cases quite literally' medium. Thanks :)
I liked the train part and the sentence "the meaning in life is you".
The spanish flu 1918 had around 25 - 50 million deaths, not 100 million. And I think that your chances of surviving are not that much better with the current flu if you live in a first world nation compared to a second world nation.
Besides nobody really knows how bad this flu will turn out, we have to wait a few more weeks or months, don´t panic yet, you can´t change much.
But i am not sure about "Dont harm anybody finansely" that can mean what ? that you cant make money of a nother person so he lose money ? i need some clearification here ;-)
eg: If I sell you some good or service for an amount of money you're comfortable with, that's not harming you financially(since you got some new Shiny to make up for it).
If I tell you that I'll give you X in exchange for some Y money, and then run off to Tijuana with the money and don't follow through with my end of the deal, that's harming you financially.
I think, there is no meaning to life. It just happened. There is meaning to things we do within our own lives but outside of that i don`t think there`s any meaning as to why there is life on this planet, in fact there is no "why". It just is.
Hey! We should THANK religion. After all, most religious people claim that their GOD is the ONLY REASON they don't rape, plunder and murder. They need this extra help. So mote it be!
@Hereticbooks Really, because some religion, especially old testament christianity, used religion to excuse rape, plunder, and murder. People still do that today, religion doesn't stop anyone, they stop themselves, or don't. I don't have any reason to thank religion.
I do kind of wish that more of our time here was spent building bridges, enriching, and nurturing, rather than burning bridges, tearing people down, and trying to make people feel bad about themselves.
I have to wonder if, on our death beds, we will feel good about all of the people we insulted or tried to bring down. I wonder if we will regret all the times we could have helped lift someone up or enlighten someone in a positive way.
Nicely said. Personally I just boil down the meaning to one thing. That one thing is whatever you want it to be ...... which is basically what you said in your vid. Goddamn it.
The point of life is best explained by Ian Lundgold. Meridian Frost, your a smart guy, so do me a favor. Watch "Evolution Continues" by Ian Lundgold on youtube and give me your opinion. Maybe it's just me, but I thought he had some good points on the meaning of life. So, if you could do me a favor and watch at least the first 2 or 3 parts and tell me what you think, I'd appreciate it. Ian died in 2005 of cancer if I am not mistaking. You don't have to do a video or anything just hit me up.
[nitpick]The 1918 flu was first reported in Spain, but is unlikely to have originated there. Spain was neutral during the war, and the countries involved in the war actively practiced censorship to cover up anything that might demoralize their populaces.[/nitpick]
In two weeks I get my first Boston Terrier, (8 weeks old, a little girl). ... That I shall be sharing my journey with, hopefully for many happy doggie years to come.
According to the doctor at the hospital, without modern medicine, I would have died last month. It was a blood infection I got through a tiny, almost invisibe cut on my left ring-finger.
Dispite all the crap, I'm not sure I could have chosen a better time to live.
I KNOW what the past is like, to some extent. I do NOT know what the future will hold.
If it was possible to know that in 5000 CE I could go to sleep and wake up orbiting a planet around another star, or even some sightseeing around the moons of Saturn, I think you know what I'd choose. :)
Allow me to say something completely unrelated to your video. I like you best with your facial hair. Not that you look bad without it. I'm just a beard girl.
The only objective truth about morality is that it is subjective. And, um yeah, I am serious. Try postmodernism. It has all the essential daily values.
"no absolutes exist" is an absolute statement. if you believe that truth is subjective you cannot assert that belief as fact, because i could just contradict you using your own position by saying that it is subjectively true, not absolutely true.
also, if anything can be true there is no need to define anything as having truth, as it would be the default position of any/every statement to have 100% truth value.
postmodernism is an all-encompassing junior high new age hippie cop-out.
anything that is "constructed by human social groups" is clearly only a perception, and thus subject to the limitations of the minds who bore it. i would not call that reality or truth. truth is not contingent upon human ability to define it.
are you planning to address the first main point i made. that your absolute statement of absolutes not existing is a self-contradiction akin to the liar's paradox, or should i take your evasion of that point as a concession?
Relativism is the key to truth value. Especially with regard to morality. The statement "no absolute truths exist" implies that truth is relative. It does not automatically imply that it is an absolute statement. Whether the statement is true or not depends upon the perception and language of the individual interpreting it.
Lol. The LIAR paradox. absolutely not. Are we going to get in to intensional and temporal logic now? Why would I concede? You aren't even in the argument.
"The statement 'no absolute truths exist' implies that truth is relative. It does not automatically imply that it is an absolute statement."
i preemptively addressed that when i said "if you believe that truth is subjective you cannot assert that belief as fact". i isolated your ASSERTION as the fallacious element, not the statement itself.
"You live in Virgina? I thought you were in Seattle for some reason... anyways, you should make more videos outside, it's cool, haha."
It's funny - I thought the same thing. Probably because the first video I watched of his was him pwning the seattle officials for their waste on the coin-operated public toilets.
is there a particular reason why theism, or even theistic self-sacrifice is not included in those things you spoke of? what if, to someone's subjective view point, the meaning of life is theism.... or self-sacrifice?
or to use your term.... why is it that one cannot be 'free,' to choose theism?
"or to use your term.... why is it that one cannot be 'free,' to choose theism?"
Of COURSE you're free to choose theism. You're also free to chain yourself to a lamppost. You can tie yourself down if you want - it's just that there is little point to it.
In other words - you're free to decide to limit your freedom, but that is something of a waste, don't you think?
Well, it *might* be. That's kind of a statement of objective certainty - something that doesn't exist within the parameters of Josh's video, which is what I was responding to.
One man's trash, another man's treasure? Hmm. A thought: To define freedom you must define what is considered restrictive of those freedoms. But even more so, freedom cannot be accurately measured, because of the limitless level of limitations that can be placed on a person. The word "considered" itself speaks to the fact that what one person feels is restrictive may not be to another. Of trash and treasure, I wouldn't go so far as to call any freedom trash. We all live and die. Same in the end
I thought of that ref, and mentioned it in the part where I spoke of christian and Islamic subjective ideas of meaning, and how it is not devalued simply by saying it is false.
mening of life is the experience... totally right couldnt have said it better myself.
fluteplayer7mce 6 months ago
Objectively purpose is subjective purpose (as meridianfrost said in different words), and in understanding this we can begin to understand objective morality. We may never be able to do the one best thing in any situation, because we will lack all the information needed to make that correct decision, but that one best thing still exists.
PTRNovi 11 months ago
i love that the train stopped
EndlessClaw 11 months ago
My purpose in life is to sexually satisfy asian women and play Mario Kart.
Nagneto 1 year ago
This guy referred to himself as a genuis. So he's probably a genuis.
MrPmj1979 1 year ago
nicely put!
Domzdream 1 year ago
life is what you make of it
orcgoat 1 year ago
when you believe you have solved the meaning of life.... boomm!, then you will realize you have not solved anything. realizing what you just spoke about is only the beginning. but when you finally do solve it, you will be out of the physical body. some will say dead. purpose completed!
Nice video editing though!
albertobarros 1 year ago
everyone whose read a douglas adams novel already knows the answer to life, the universe, and everything...
42
drdistracto707 1 year ago
@drdistracto707 Yeah, I've been working on discovering the question ever since I saw that as a child.
I think I have it now though, it is...
How old is God? :)
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
Very very well said. 5 stars. Everyone has their own morals. I believe, as long as we don't harm people. It's okay to have our own value.
itskelvinkkc 2 years ago
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi
Why don't you ponder on that for a while. By the way, I think you know perfectly well how provocative the phrase "God bless you" is to an atheist. The hate is obviously yours, not the other way around.
husker23 2 years ago
quit the smokes dude...i want you to make more videos
reasonnotgod 2 years ago
one contradiction though (a REAL clue to life)........
"once you realize youre not going to seek out something that engrains your indivuality...."
What if that is your 'will' (wish)... what if your free will wants only what cant be gotten as you say it.... thats the only way to get it ???
same goes for life itself......MOST certain is that we die, MOST strong is our survival-urge, an automatism to want to live.....
a free will must accept it isnt 'free' ?
hmm
Nevyle 2 years ago
You should read about thanatos, or death drive according to Freud.
terminaldeity 2 years ago
no absolutes exist ??? tell that to particle physicists .....the universe seems to be sown togheter on a couple of absolute constants.... to the point we can plug it into actual computer simulations.....
Nevyle 2 years ago
I think he ment 'when it comes to morality, no absolutes exist'
kevinscales 2 years ago
fuck you john marcus. no one here wants to listen to your bullshit ideas so just fucking leave you brain washed bastard
tysump 2 years ago
Very well said. I happen to agree with you. What a wonderful way to see the world. How liberating it must be.
thelyzardiam 2 years ago
And if you think the consequences if we get it wrong imply an objective purpose or morality, you misunderstand me. The consequences of our actions and our motives are not easy to forsee, and we may look back and regret what we did. But it is right and, fortunately, necessary that we assume the burden of that task.
responsiblethought 2 years ago
Deciding what our purpose is, and what morality is, is not only our right, it is our responsibility. Our freedom, autonomy, and free will are both wonderful and a burden at the same time. We can never let someone else decide these things for us, we must be responsible. And though there will be consequences if we get it wrong, it would be meaningless if we were not free to try. It is, I believe, the best of all possible worlds, that we have the freedom to try to be what we believe is right.
responsiblethought 2 years ago
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mxjf 2 years ago
What kind of boring fuck wants to know the meaning of life anyway? Isn't it just exciting not to know it?
Raffzeee 2 years ago
42,
done,
answered.
joep041188 2 years ago
This is a very, very important realization.
Favourited. :)
ninapoetry 2 years ago
Really well put together Mer. I love that you present it subjectively. I have always loved your three-part system. I'm glad you shared it with us, especially in this very creative, very 'outside of the box, and in some cases quite literally' medium. Thanks :)
thinkmorepink 2 years ago
what a pretty place to make a video. :-)
roentgen571 2 years ago
So, this question, I hope, won't sound as bad as it could... You said, we know for a fact that absolutes don't exist.
Isn't that an absolute? Either way you answer the question, I'd like to hear more about why you answer that way.
drsuessre14 2 years ago
well look on the bright side
you got 25 % Right
that not bad but yor still young
you'l figer out sooner or later
wmichel80 2 years ago
Death #1 Severe heart murmur as an infant - my thanks to several doctors and nurses.
Death #2 Not looking before crossing the street - my thanks to Brooke and Chuck for saving my ass!
Death #3 Hospitalized for pernicious anemia in 1994 - my thanks to the doctors and blood donors who saved my life.
My thanks to Facebook for helping me reconnect with a friend I wronged in High School - she graciously accepted my apology.
Elaina43 2 years ago
And, finally, my thanks to YouTube for connecting me to fantastic and remarkable people like YOU, Mer!
Elaina43 2 years ago
i like you (:
jessyfallstar 2 years ago
This guy is a dusch, he doesn't have a clue of what he's talking about.
shilohwillcome 2 years ago
Wouldn't mathematics be absolute? Maybe physics?
freedom0f5peech 2 years ago
eloquently put, sir. It was almost as good as MY "meaning of life" video. ; )
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Thanks man, I can use that. Cheers.
NLPNVC 2 years ago
lol why are all the related videos islamic conversion videos???? or is it just me
strife7k 2 years ago
I liked the train part and the sentence "the meaning in life is you".
The spanish flu 1918 had around 25 - 50 million deaths, not 100 million. And I think that your chances of surviving are not that much better with the current flu if you live in a first world nation compared to a second world nation.
Besides nobody really knows how bad this flu will turn out, we have to wait a few more weeks or months, don´t panic yet, you can´t change much.
CoffeeReloaded 2 years ago
Hm...I still like 42, but hey. Your meaning of life comes pretty close. I say it's second place.
But really. Who can beat the Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything?
Quite clearly 42.
RIP, Douglas Adams
EllenRussell54 2 years ago
Realy nice thoughts.
But i am not sure about "Dont harm anybody finansely" that can mean what ? that you cant make money of a nother person so he lose money ? i need some clearification here ;-)
scicoe 2 years ago
Don't take money from them deceptively I'd think.
eg: If I sell you some good or service for an amount of money you're comfortable with, that's not harming you financially(since you got some new Shiny to make up for it).
If I tell you that I'll give you X in exchange for some Y money, and then run off to Tijuana with the money and don't follow through with my end of the deal, that's harming you financially.
ValeofAldur 2 years ago
Thats amazing! Thanks you for straightening this topic out for me =]
twodaydude 2 years ago
Awesome video, man!
TheAist 2 years ago
Congrats on producing a positive message.
And coincidentally, I too wouldn't be around today if I was born a 150 years ago:)
scepticVseptic 2 years ago
phew, thanks for solving this. ; )
heatherlynblue 2 years ago
I think, there is no meaning to life. It just happened. There is meaning to things we do within our own lives but outside of that i don`t think there`s any meaning as to why there is life on this planet, in fact there is no "why". It just is.
peteq1972 2 years ago
Awesome! Especially the track bit!
chalkers 2 years ago
nice vid
IChoseTheRedPill 2 years ago
awesome
you should set the white balence to something differnt, its a bit yellow lol
DidntKnowWhatToPut1 2 years ago
"Because Im a genius!" Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
P.S.
Well said/done★★★★★
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 2 years ago
Glad you signed that comment with your username, I couldnt see it in big blue letters above it.
nitarna 2 years ago
Hahahahaha! :O)
Katalyzt 2 years ago
I can think of some apologists who would quote-mine the shit out of this if they could. But whatever, I agree and well said.
ArranoGris 2 years ago
'Why am I here oh lord'
lol
Nice post mate =D
eraser101YT 2 years ago
Oh and don't die anytime soon meridianfrost. We need people like you around planet earth to make this place a little sane to live in.
WereAllApes 2 years ago
MeridianFrost, did the train stop because you were on the tracks? if that was true, than that would be hilarious.
WereAllApes 2 years ago
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WereAllApes 2 years ago
5 stars, mate!
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
Hey! We should THANK religion. After all, most religious people claim that their GOD is the ONLY REASON they don't rape, plunder and murder. They need this extra help. So mote it be!
Hereticbooks 2 years ago 8
lol Good point ima put that one in my pocket for the next religious debate im in
strife7k 2 years ago
@Hereticbooks Really, because some religion, especially old testament christianity, used religion to excuse rape, plunder, and murder. People still do that today, religion doesn't stop anyone, they stop themselves, or don't. I don't have any reason to thank religion.
sciwiz12 5 months ago
@sciwiz12
True. Religion has been a scourge on this planet from the time it was invented.
Hereticbooks 5 months ago
@Hereticbooks Yup, round abouts, granted some of the individuals are nice, just misguided if anything.
sciwiz12 5 months ago
I do kind of wish that more of our time here was spent building bridges, enriching, and nurturing, rather than burning bridges, tearing people down, and trying to make people feel bad about themselves.
I have to wonder if, on our death beds, we will feel good about all of the people we insulted or tried to bring down. I wonder if we will regret all the times we could have helped lift someone up or enlighten someone in a positive way.
I think I know the answer...
Quag7 2 years ago
Nicely said. Personally I just boil down the meaning to one thing. That one thing is whatever you want it to be ...... which is basically what you said in your vid. Goddamn it.
CaptMaxPruss 2 years ago
Nice.
nashequil 2 years ago
great video frosty. i was debating the meaning of life in my head yesterday and this really helped me understand what i was trying to understand.
TrevDogg920 2 years ago
The point of life is best explained by Ian Lundgold. Meridian Frost, your a smart guy, so do me a favor. Watch "Evolution Continues" by Ian Lundgold on youtube and give me your opinion. Maybe it's just me, but I thought he had some good points on the meaning of life. So, if you could do me a favor and watch at least the first 2 or 3 parts and tell me what you think, I'd appreciate it. Ian died in 2005 of cancer if I am not mistaking. You don't have to do a video or anything just hit me up.
Ramel34 2 years ago
Another classic, but hey, Don't mess with trains !
itsbizbuz 2 years ago
I love this, Josh. What a great start to my day. Thanks for making me smile.
AthiestAtJen 2 years ago
What do you mean by : don't harm people emotionnally? It is amibiguous, I think.
arsenelupin123 2 years ago
[nitpick]The 1918 flu was first reported in Spain, but is unlikely to have originated there. Spain was neutral during the war, and the countries involved in the war actively practiced censorship to cover up anything that might demoralize their populaces.[/nitpick]
Good video!
CousinoMacul 2 years ago
very nice thought, frosty!
SteevDragon67 2 years ago
In two weeks I get my first Boston Terrier, (8 weeks old, a little girl). ... That I shall be sharing my journey with, hopefully for many happy doggie years to come.
M0THERKN0WSBEST 2 years ago
I was O.K. with the food and sex.
M0THERKN0WSBEST 2 years ago 6
According to the doctor at the hospital, without modern medicine, I would have died last month. It was a blood infection I got through a tiny, almost invisibe cut on my left ring-finger.
Dispite all the crap, I'm not sure I could have chosen a better time to live.
philhellenes 2 years ago
What? You wouldn't choose to live in a time of cheap and available space travel?
CousinoMacul 2 years ago
I KNOW what the past is like, to some extent. I do NOT know what the future will hold.
If it was possible to know that in 5000 CE I could go to sleep and wake up orbiting a planet around another star, or even some sightseeing around the moons of Saturn, I think you know what I'd choose. :)
philhellenes 2 years ago
Excellent video. Very eloquent.
unixhead101 2 years ago 4
Thanks very much.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
remember that time you tattooed that lightning bolt onto your scrotum?
justwordsonthescreen 2 years ago
I do indeed.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Allow me to say something completely unrelated to your video. I like you best with your facial hair. Not that you look bad without it. I'm just a beard girl.
lololeela 2 years ago
Never fear. I am growing it back.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Interesting stuff man...
Five Stars!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
You can't say there are no absolutes.
If you say:
"There are no absolute truths.",
then you are contradicting yourself because you are trying to convey what you think is an absolute truth.
Anon1696 2 years ago
See above response to "no absolute truths are contradictory".
meridianfrost 2 years ago
It still doesn't make sense.
You claim a truth that also renders it not absolute at the same time.
Doesn't make sense.
Anon1696 2 years ago
I'm glad someone finally solved it. Although I never found the question important.
slipcurve 2 years ago
I will give him credit for his point of view not that i disagree with it on any particular point.
Peace
Grimlin1195 2 years ago
Oh Mr. Frost. You have beautiful thoughts in the pretty little head of yours. Absolutely beautiful. They gave me warm fuzzies and everything. ^_^
GlorifiedCarnage 2 years ago 3
You flatter me. Thanks very much.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
You are correct, comrade.
The meaning of life is whatever you want. You produce your own meaning.
I think you summed up libertarianism quite well. You should message the Libertarian Party your basis of your morality.
peepnklown 2 years ago
I could never be libertarian, although I love listening to Boortz. Thanks for the comment.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
MF
I thought you summed up the libertarian position quite well. I like Michael Badnarik & David Boaz.
peepnklown 2 years ago
I was actually just about to watch one of your videos before I got on youtube, and bam, video by you.
Also, sucks about the heart thing, I myself strangly have a fear of death (waking up in the coffin thing) and a fear of getting old.
How fucked is that?
Shonem 2 years ago
Ha! The only real fear I have is losing my loved ones.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
"we know for a FACT, that NO absolutes exist."
um... are you serious? do i have to point out to you why that is a self-contradictory statement?
PerennialLucidity 2 years ago
The only objective truth about morality is that it is subjective. And, um yeah, I am serious. Try postmodernism. It has all the essential daily values.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
sigh.
"no absolutes exist" is an absolute statement. if you believe that truth is subjective you cannot assert that belief as fact, because i could just contradict you using your own position by saying that it is subjectively true, not absolutely true.
also, if anything can be true there is no need to define anything as having truth, as it would be the default position of any/every statement to have 100% truth value.
postmodernism is an all-encompassing junior high new age hippie cop-out.
PerennialLucidity 2 years ago
For someone who has such contempt for postmodernism, I could see how the concept of redefining truth value could be exasperating for you.
Once your metanarratives have fallen, your focus must naturally evolve to understanding postmodern modalities.
If I say:
"Reality (truth) is constructed by human social groups, and is not a product of an intangible and yet to be discovered objectivity."
would you have reacted differently to my proposition?
meridianfrost 2 years ago
anything that is "constructed by human social groups" is clearly only a perception, and thus subject to the limitations of the minds who bore it. i would not call that reality or truth. truth is not contingent upon human ability to define it.
are you planning to address the first main point i made. that your absolute statement of absolutes not existing is a self-contradiction akin to the liar's paradox, or should i take your evasion of that point as a concession?
PerennialLucidity 2 years ago
Relativism is the key to truth value. Especially with regard to morality. The statement "no absolute truths exist" implies that truth is relative. It does not automatically imply that it is an absolute statement. Whether the statement is true or not depends upon the perception and language of the individual interpreting it.
Lol. The LIAR paradox. absolutely not. Are we going to get in to intensional and temporal logic now? Why would I concede? You aren't even in the argument.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
"The statement 'no absolute truths exist' implies that truth is relative. It does not automatically imply that it is an absolute statement."
i preemptively addressed that when i said "if you believe that truth is subjective you cannot assert that belief as fact". i isolated your ASSERTION as the fallacious element, not the statement itself.
PerennialLucidity 2 years ago
You live in Virgina? I thought you were in Seattle for some reason... anyways, you should make more videos outside, it's cool, haha.
charlietripi 2 years ago
"You live in Virgina? I thought you were in Seattle for some reason... anyways, you should make more videos outside, it's cool, haha."
It's funny - I thought the same thing. Probably because the first video I watched of his was him pwning the seattle officials for their waste on the coin-operated public toilets.
OccamKant 2 years ago
Hahaha. That is funny. I dont think I could live in seattle. Too much rain and suicide. Lol.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Absolutely beautiful!
Very well said, we create our own meaning and destiny, and nothing lasts forever...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
Thank you dear. Good to see you.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
42
and l have my towel to hand
draagon66 2 years ago
woot.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Good video!
WereAllApes 2 years ago
thanks.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Great, great, great video. However....
is there a particular reason why theism, or even theistic self-sacrifice is not included in those things you spoke of? what if, to someone's subjective view point, the meaning of life is theism.... or self-sacrifice?
or to use your term.... why is it that one cannot be 'free,' to choose theism?
reflectionist 2 years ago
A mind is a terrible thing to waste...
/watch?v=05-hpdULWb8
ofpfury 2 years ago
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reflectionist 2 years ago
"or to use your term.... why is it that one cannot be 'free,' to choose theism?"
Of COURSE you're free to choose theism. You're also free to chain yourself to a lamppost. You can tie yourself down if you want - it's just that there is little point to it.
In other words - you're free to decide to limit your freedom, but that is something of a waste, don't you think?
OccamKant 2 years ago 2
Well, it *might* be. That's kind of a statement of objective certainty - something that doesn't exist within the parameters of Josh's video, which is what I was responding to.
One man's trash is another man's treasure...
reflectionist 2 years ago
One man's trash, another man's treasure? Hmm. A thought: To define freedom you must define what is considered restrictive of those freedoms. But even more so, freedom cannot be accurately measured, because of the limitless level of limitations that can be placed on a person. The word "considered" itself speaks to the fact that what one person feels is restrictive may not be to another. Of trash and treasure, I wouldn't go so far as to call any freedom trash. We all live and die. Same in the end
Grimlin1195 2 years ago
I thought of that ref, and mentioned it in the part where I spoke of christian and Islamic subjective ideas of meaning, and how it is not devalued simply by saying it is false.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Ah. My apologies. I should've paid closer attention.
reflectionist 2 years ago
42, nuff' said.
geroldkid 2 years ago
word.
meridianfrost 2 years ago
Well said.
thedefendingchamp 2 years ago 6
I agree. Well said.
sirkamon 2 years ago
Thanks!
meridianfrost 2 years ago