Rudolf Serkin - Beethoven Sonata No. 32, Op. 111 - 2nd Movement - Part I

[hiltonpanda]

You can lament on your life, you can be desparate on your life, you can laugh about your life, or you can love your life..... after all it is your (our) life.....

[Valk72]

wo so emotional...

[Ghehes]

Emocionante. Um dos grandes momentos da inspiração humana.

[shaggsCD1]

Dripping snot at 0:45.

[carlosLor]

no hay palabras para esto. sólo las mismas notas dibujadas serían el modo de expresar el más profundo agradecimiento al genio

[OrangeSodaKing]

I love Beethoven totally goes into swing and boogie woogie through this movement! :) But seriously, this is a masterpieces, maybe my favorite of the 35.

[musicalidea]

@OrangeSodaKing But he only wrote 32 sonatas! lol - do you have the missing 3 in your cupboard?

[OrangeSodaKing]

@musicalidea As a matter of fact, I do! Lol, Beethoven actually composed three piano sonatas when he was younger. The "WoO" sonatas.

[felipilloo1984]

I become aware of how much I like this piece when I realize that I can't hear it as a piece of music, but as a honest and outstanding human testimony.

[stevej061069]

@felipilloo1984

what a fantastic description. I have listened to this many times and always struggle to put into words what it makes me feel. That is perhaps the greatest testament to Beethoven's late works, even 200 years later they still defy description in mere words. And I imagine this will forever remain the case. I'm not a religious person, but if I was I would say that my God was born in 1770, and died in 1827.

[otherjoe1234]

and beethoven suddenly gave us a glimpse at music almost a century in the future from when it was written. that's genius, to foreshadow like that.

[janebubles]

Just beautiful.

[MsAppassionata]

Whoa! Boogie woogie in the 19th century. Who woulda thunk it? Beethoven, that's who.

[Desmonddd2002]

This song sums up Beethoven's life

[Berdjum]

si dieu n'existe pas .. ce n'est pas donc lui qui a empeche Monsieur Serkin être quelque peu ennuyeux et sans communion avec l'énergie cosmique .. car le cosmos a au moins le merite d'exister ...lui !

[1HOUSEMD]

B-E-A utiful,my most favorite sonata.

[musicalidea]

This limited application of dance - in Serkin's facial expressions and sways - is by no means an insignificant one. He embodies in his performance - and in the display of his own experience of the music - the gradual shift from pain, defeat and resignation to triumph, exultation, ecstatic brotherhood and liberation that this piece - and so many of Beethoven's slow theme and variations movements - concerns.

[Malaka57]

It has all to do with Beethoven sharing his creativity and lucubrations with us all and achieving a form of immortality. I don't think Beethoven was giving birth to the A train... ;-)

[musicalidea]

@Malaka57 "Lucubration": 1. laborious work, study, thought, etc., esp. at night. 2. the result of such activity, as a learned speech or dissertation. 3. Often, lucubrations. any literary effort, esp. of a pretentious or solemn nature.

What a word! And how apt! Thank you :)

[yoxinsky]

si dieu existe un petit bout de lui était présent ce soir de 1987. Merci pour l'upload et la richesse des sentiments qui m'auront traversés à cette écoute.

[sll10]

@yoxinsky Welcome!

[mlleroxanev]

@yoxinsky je ne pourrais mieux résumer ma réaction à l'écoute de ce vidéo...

[Sucrefeu]

Ce n'est pas ma version préférée de cette sonate, mais je tiens juste à dire, au vu des commentaires précédents, que je trouve le débat assez futile. Oui, cette sonate de Beethoven est géniale, et c'est tout ce qu'il faut retenir ! Entre ceux qui aiment le jazz ou pas, quelle importance ?

Oui, une partie de la sonate, particulièrement à 6:30 , sonne très jazz ! Mais cela n'est qu'un superbe compliment pour le compositeur de génie et le visionnaire qu'était Beethoven !

[davus0]

...it's what sets LvB apart from nearly all other music. other composers use the same kinds of technique but their purposes are more diffuse. in B it's as if the music is trying to find out its own absolute meaning and place in the world piece by piece. the development in his music is not so much like a long discursive speech, story or song made up of various grammatical and syntactic pieces as it is the coining of one new word in the language.

[davus0]

beethoven likes to take a single element like a trill, or in the case of the 'boogie-woogie' variation, syncopated entry and recapitulation of a voice (as in baroque counterpoint) and work it t death and then back to life. it's a characteristic of nearly all his mature music. the difference between jazz and beethoven, or nearly any other music and beethoven, is this rigorous treatment.

[trabitrabi]

il y a des commentaires qui dénotent une ignorance grasse de ce qui est le jazz dites-donc ! en plus, il y a dans cette sonate des éléments tout à fait qui se retrouvent effectivement dans des morceaux de jazz... simple :-), pas 'free'

que ceux qui trouvent le jazz simplet l'écoutent déjà un peu; si après ils le trouvent toujours simplet, il serait certainement temps de réfléchir s'ils connaissant quelque chose à la Musique

[TheJeanselimcom]

On parle plutôt d'ignorance crasse, et non grasse! Mais pourquoi pas?

[dagadbm]

why do you people insist on saying this is Jazz?

this is NOT jazz!

It's a child dancing in bliss and absolute happiness. Beethoven is amazing do not confuse Jazz with Beethoven please.

[trabitrabi]

I think you are wrong twice: there are jazz-elements in here AND Beethoven himself never wanted his music to be 'Programm-Musik', i.e. scenes to be imagined while his music was playing. which makes me think that your dancing child was not really what he had in mind. so: let's listen and enjoy, we should not quarrel about the feelings it gives us.

[dagadbm]

If he never wanted his music to be 'Programm-Musik' he wouldn't have made the pastoral symphony (he actually writes names of birds in the sheet music..)

Also this is not my opinion, this is Andras Schiff's opinion (he recorded all of beethoven sonatas and talked about them in GuardianFM or something).

[napoleoneterzo]

Bravo,che bravo.Ciao

[hennebry27]

supreme beethoven...supreme Serkin. A triumph of human artistic creation and expression. This is not anything as primitive as Jazz.

[MsAppassionata]

@hennebry27 Jazz is NOT primitive. I think you're just another racist snob.

[bac21380]

moi je déteste le jazz et j'adore cette musique, qui n'a rien à voir avec la musique de drogué qu'est le jazz.

[newcjon]

Je suis d'accord vraiment avec vous.

Il ne faut pas dire plus parce vous avez ecrit tout ce je allais ecrir.

[TaiGekTou]

This man is way old, and plays so wonderfully. *respect*

[hejjahejhaj]

HEY! Where's part II?

[hejjahejhaj]

Listen to it! Jazzy music in the 18th century!

I don't quite understand the structure though.

[jhpianist]

A set of variations on a theme, each successively louder and more complex than the last until the second half, where it comes back down - like a macro-phrase structure. Beethoven was very inventive in his compositions, especially in the later ones, hence the jazzy tendencies in his later works.

[iguarni]

wonderful!!

[beethomozart]

5 variations without continuity, the structure seems primitive and all the details normal and innocents, but the theme goes onto a rythym absolutely special, resume: sweetness, overearthly happiness, cool easyness,long live ludwig van

[azizzaman]

there is some jazz -like music in the middle of the Arietta.